As sheep, we often wander away, and we hear our shepherd‘s voice when he calls us back to him. That isn’t the same thing as rejecting the Shepherd all together. That would make you actually a goat. Once the Shepherd includes you in His flock, he cannot lose you. Goats are more independent and curious (worldly) and do not stay flocked together as sheep tend to do (conform to the flock).
Right! And at the end of the day, God will do whatever he wants. Lol. All I can say is that people need to be honest with themeselves... they know good and well whether or not their seeking God with all their heart, soul, mind and strength.
It is not hard to know Him, it is hard to break free from the false or incomplete teachings of personal "feelings" of Him, all we have to do is read His word, He will reveal His truth to you, but we have to read, I spent years going by a scripture here and there, reading out of context, and letting others be my teacher, but even having a good teacher now, it is still up to us, to receive His word, which for me, is harder to accept, because I was always hyped up on how special I was, but now, I see it is Not about me, but all about Jesus, I will pray for you, don't give up! :)
Jesus said narrow is the way and few be there that find it. I worry about it. I question the big doctrines. There is only one faith, and a criteria to stay within. False doctrine seems to be very dangerous. If you ask me, I see it everywhere. No one seems to know where the gospel originated from. Jesus completed the gospel, he didn't start it. No one ever talks about Abraham. Galatians 3. Is the trinity true? I don't believe so. I've dived through the scriptures and looked at the Greek. It doesn't make any sense, nor can it be plausible. It reminds me of that one character in Revelation, sets his mark in the temple of God, proclaiming that he is God. Speaking many blasphemies. Well, the Jews, though they misinterpreted what Jesus said, they thought Jesus was making himself out to be God, so they said it was blasphemy. Any sharp reader will recognise that the Jews misunderstood Jesus entirely. Though if they didn't, it would still be blasphemy. So now what does it mean to blaspheme? Because according to mainstream Christianity, the Jews understood God as unitarian, but revealed Himself as a trinity in the New Testament. We have both sides pointing at eachother saying blasphemy. What is more likely? Given the deep investigation, Yeshua HaMoschiach is but the prophet from Deut 18:18. A man, the son of God, the Christ. Just as Peter and John, and the others recognise him as. It saddens me that mainstream Christianity don't even know anything other than the trinity. I believe it is a different Jesus. Even the doctrine of hell, it's translated from many different words. It's not compatible with even Gods nature. Eternal punishment in hell is contrasted with eternal pleasure in some heaven. The promise to Abraham, is the land of Canaan. God said to Abraham, look north south east and west. The land you see, I will give to you and your seed forever. Again, Galatians 3 Pauls tells us this. Eternal life on earth is the reward, and the alternative contrast is eternal death in the 'grave', 'from the dust of the earth you were created, to the dust you shall return', and 'the wages of sin is death'. How can someone return to dust and die, if they are to live forever in some foreign world on fire? The doctrine of hell poisons the gospel. As for heaven, I mentioned in my above paragraph the faith of Abraham is the earth. When judgement day comes with the resurrection, the people will come from the earth and the grave. Those who died, are in an unconscious state like a sleep. Death is but a moment away from the kingdom for the elect. Satan is but the last false doctrine I believe. God did not lock us up in a world with a personal evil entity. Sin comes from within us, when we are drawn away by our own lusts. Paul mentions this, as does James. Jesus was tempted on the mountain in a moments notice, just like us. He knew he was to be king, and knew he had the power to take it. But he did not succumb to it, because he knew it was not his Fathers will, nor the appointed time. The trinity is very dangerous. I wish everyone would look in to it for themselves.
Corey, I know you have discernment. Genuine question: How can someone that thinks they can lose salvation be trusting Christ alone? Wouldn't they be really trusting themselves to "keep the faith, endure until the end" or whatever verbiage they want to use to cover the fact that they think they are co-savior with Christ. Seems so simple to me and astonishing that any genuinely born again/regenerated believer could ever believe that.
@TallGlass-fh8qf that's religion and philosophy. The truth is that Gods word speaks on absolutes, and once you have passed from death to life there is no returning i.e. "shall never perish" once the believer is born again God holds himself to the promise. What are you walking away from anyways? God is everywhere and has sealed himself in you...people like ypu are the ones actually walking aways from the faith you are the onse who don't, alteast currently, believe the promise of EtERNAL life and its always about works too it's never about the actual faith that is that Jesus died for our sins and rose for justification and He sanctifies by His blood one time for ever. It is those who walk away from this i.e osas that are the onse who the bible is concerned about how ironic!
@dedios03 very well said 👏🏼amen! You can't lose your salvation, once the HOLY SPIRIT is in us, we are Sealed upon the day of REDEMPTION and THIS is in the BIBLE. It's actually quite mind boggling that ppl think they can lose their salvation🤡. Like Jesus said " Oh ye of little faith! SMH
Phillipians 1 6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: . We don't keep anything... He does
I'm just going to do my best to not stray from his path. I'm not gonna test God or worry about if I could loose my salvation. I'm going to follow his voice. I'm going to fight my sin abd do my best.
Brother Corey, Now, after these past couple of years now of watching you, I understand, and I see why so many have and do, walk away, even when I was in the world, I went there because I did not know the tenements of the faith, our church, from my prekindergarten yrs and on, Never taught them, only the charismaticisms (sorry for the poor spelling) and all of the pentecostal theologies, (Mostly personal thoughts) I was never even taught why we did what we did, only that we were to do them, "Look the part" including mocking others ways of tongues, being on fire, and even scooting around the altar, like I was some hopping rabbit or something, we were not even taught the attributes of the Spirit, only that we did not have it unless we spoke in tongues, I just want to say, Thank you, and I am still praying for you and your family, and I pray even more who have an ear, come to the knowledge of His Truth, and True Holiness.
Corey, I think you’re spot on and I believe this is exampled for us in the book of John when some of Jesus’ “disciples” turned back and stopped following him after a hard teaching: “When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?” Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.”” John 6:60-69 The TRUE disciples/sheep didn’t turn back, but continued believing 🙏🏾
”They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.“ I John 2:19 NKJV
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm still studying... Salvation essentially means your sins are forgiven and you are going to heaven. If that is correct, then the question regarding salvation is; have WE said we're saved or has GOD said we're saved? If true salvation means GOD says we are forgiven and are going to heaven, then in order to argue that could change, you'd have to argue that GOD is not omniscient. GOD knows my future, HE knows whether or not I'll continue to follow him or if I'll fall away. If GOD knows my ending before I'm even born and HE says I'm saved, then that cannot change. We can lie to others, we can even lie to ourselves, but we cannot lie to GOD.
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, HE THAT HEARETH MY WORD, AND BELIEVETH ON HIM THAT SENT ME ( conditional ), hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Even the scripture you cited is CONDITIONAL..SMH!
Israel isn't saved until they endure their 70th week without taking the mark of the beast (1 John 5:16). They don't get their sins forgiven until Christ returns to earth at the end of their 70th week. Acts 3:19. The Body of Christ Church members are forgiven the moment we believe Paul's Gospel of Grace. We are even saved from God's wrath. Israel isn't saved from God's wrath, it's their 70th week of their prophecy. We get raptured before their 70th week begins. They don't get raptured before their 70th week begins. It's their prophecy, not ours.
You are the first person to verbalize how I view the "early church fathers"... so much of their doctrine was suspect but no one ever talks about that....
In listening to these debates over the years I have come to the conclusion that we are having a discussion between two groups who are Christians while forgetting that the person who believes “I can do whatever I want and call myself a Christian” is sitting back eating popcorn and thinking “Both these groups would say I’m not saved based upon my actions, but I’m not going to interject and just let them go back and forth”…😳😳😳🍿
Your definition of salvation and mine are different. I stated that I was living like the devil, I was selling drugs, doing drugs, fighting, shooting, and had no fruit proving evidence of faith. You stated that due to my sin, I was still saved. Your definition of salvation is false and powerless. Salvation is the deliverance of the power and control of sin. Paul stated that the gospel was the power of God unto salvation. Meaning that faith in the gospel sets you free from living a sinful life. John said whatsoever is born of God does not commit sin, meaning does not practice sin, live a sinful life, or have that infatuation to sin. I believe in true salvation, a salvation that proves Jesus has invaded your temple and His power reigns Supreme over the power of the devil, I believe in true conversion and as Jesus died, my old man dies, and as Jesus is risen my new man has risen and because of that Paul said in romans 6 that we walk in the newness of life. I encourage you to study the identity of a Saint and the identity of a sinner. The Bible gives examples of both. The Word will let you know if your a lost sinner or a saved saint. Identity in Christ is so powerful and I think God that my assurance isn't in a ideology created by man to excuse sin and illustrate a powerless gospel, but my Holy Ghost filled identity in Christ is explained in the Holy scripture.
Had to laugh at the words on your shirt. People wanting us to use correct pronouns get offended that GOD refers to Himself using the pronoun He prefers.
I also you thought we were able to loose our faith but I’m questioning that belief, thank you my brother pointing that out! Either way I’m flllowing Christ no matter what happens in life! Christians seem to be so argumentative instead of being teachable, hard head is not of The fruits.
The epistles weren't written to non believers,they were letters written to churches, whatever language they happened to speak back then ,which was Greek, it was written to believers, non believers wouldn't even read the letters or hear them. You assume their congregation was like today's, where anyone can walk in. The church was being persecuted, they were living in caves. You're projecting calling him arrogant
The blood of Jesus is strong enough to keep us!!! God is able to keep us, so we can rest in his promise to never cast us out once we come to him! Drawn by the Holy Spirit, Given by the Father!
James 5:19-20 19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. This scripture is self-explanatory and obviously doesn't support OSAS belief. Keep the true faith in Jesus and you'll remain. The evidence of true faith is true fruit. OSAS PAINTS THE PIC AS A SINNER AND SAINT LIVING THE SAME EXACT LIFESTYLE.
Corey, what you are teaching is so dangerous. A couple of things: 1. It is so scary to "think" that I'm a brother and am not. Your basic answer for those that do fall away is, "they were never a brother". Yikes, how could anyone be secure with this thought process. 2. I would word it, "if there are any non believers amongst the brotheren..." Wouldn't that be the most conscise way to say what you are trying to say to prove your point? I never seem to catch your live streams, but would love to talk to you. I've given this example in a couple of your other threads, but maybe you'll see it this time. Let's say that a drug addict repents and gets saved. Lives a saved life for 30 years serving God. After thirty years they fall back into their aweful habit and use any means necessary to support it, from prostitution and theft to violent crime. Your answer to this...they were never a brother. Wow, I think I'm a brother, but with your rationale, i guess i wont know if I' m not until it's too late. Doesn't sound like the God that i know. I admire your passion for the word and and your love of God is clear, but OSAS gives too many people license to live however they want to live "thinking" that OSAS. May God have mercy on them AND anyone teaching this.
To point 1. ”They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.“ I John 2:19 NKJV The drug addict may have participated, felt included for 30 years, he may have never been saved. That’s what 1 John 2:19 describes. I talk to many “Christians” years of being in church, and I read passages from the Bible and they say, “I’ve never read that.” “I didn’t know that was in the Bible.” They don’t know the word of the One they claim to love. ”Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”“ Matthew 13:30 NKJV The church is full of wheat and tares. We don’t know who is who, God does. By conversations we can help others to examine themselves to know they are in the faith, or others help us. ”“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”“ Matthew 13:47-50 NKJV I hope this helps.
@@kediasjackson101 it refers to both. Verse 22 explains what he means by “anti Christ”. The full context is the whole letter of 1 John. It is to believers. God bless you.
Bro. Corey, in your opening statements, you mentioned that you don’t put too much stock in the early Church Fathers. Your reason was that they were all fallible men who had some questionable doctrines. I agree with you. I’d just say that you could try to word that a bit differently, because you depend on the understanding of Greek scholars by which you interpret the language of the scriptures. They are also fallible and May have some iffy beliefs. Some may call you hypocritical to only believe other men when their interpretations of scripture line up with your doctrine. In future please consider that. Keep on truckin’ for the LORD.
Hmm Polycarp Ireaneus Justin Martyr all taught by John or John taught the ones that taught them .. I get the Didache wasn't exactly right . Close but it isn't inspired .. but wouldn't the ones actually taught by the disciples have there theology spot on if he learned it from John or Paul or Peter I mean sure even the apostles made mistakes . But this was normally pointed out. Polycarp was the first batch of Christian patriarchs that were martyred.
Corey: 2 Timothy 2:17-18. Proves your point. And there message will spread like cancer, hymenaeus & Philetus are of this sort. Who have STRAYED concerning THE TRUTH, saying that the resurrection (a tenet) is already past; & they overthrow the faith of some.
You asked how would you reference the non-believers among you? I know how Paul would reference them. He called them *"UNBELIEVERS"* (1 Cor 14:23-24). *1 Cor 14:23* "Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or *unbelievers,* will they not say that you are out of your mind?" *1 Cor 14:24* "But if all prophesy, and an *unbeliever* or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all." Notice that neither the "uninformed" nor the "unbeliever" seem to be a part of the community of believers here. And when you read from verses (22-24) inclusive, there is a distinction made between "unbelievers" and "believers" (as being the whole assembly). Therefore, Paul makes an express distinction between believers (the whole assembly) and unbelievers (who visit) the assembly, in this passage.
how do you have two scriptures at the same time , will i mean i can do that with you tube. but how do you have two translations beside each other, but at the same time having the Greek highlighted over the English word you selected? i think that is very awesome , how ?
There is a program called Logos that gives you the ability to show both at the same time. Logos has different commentaries and versions of the Bible, great resource.
Idk why everyone assumes Paul's thorn in the flesh was a physical illness. Not likely. Would we not have heard more about this illness that he pleaded to hv removed from him in his letters with how much he would need to depend on good health to make his extensive travels.
When Brown said that the passage is talking about physical healing when it doesn't happen means the prayer wasn't with enough faith, you shpukd have said, "So then Paul didnt have enough faith since he prayed for healing from the thorne in his flesh and God said "no".... would have been interesting to hear his answer.
Jesus said to that the man who was PHYSICALLY sick of the palsy (who was let down thru the roof) “thy sins are forgiven.” So that verse doesn’t automatically mean that James is referring to SPIRITUAL sickness.
I think you missed the point: IF James is talking about PHYSICAL sickness, and we pray in faith and the person doesn’t recover, then James is a liar. So since he says the person WILL recover AND his sister will be forgiven, it’s very likely that he isn’t talking about physical illness.
@@elciscoplummer3255 do people ALWAYS recover from SPIRITUAL sickness everytime we pray??? One could make the same argument. He’s obviously referring to physical sickness.
He said thy Sins are forgiven because 1. He wanted the world to see he had the power to forgive sins because he is god in the flesh and 2 it fulfilled the promise in the prophets and 3. Forgiving our sin is of top priority to him and should be to us It doesn’t negate he can or did heal the body too they are not synonymous. I would rather have my sin forgiven than a sickness taken away any day of the week !
@elciscoplummer3255 But that's still objective. Because I can still say the reason why the sick person wasn't healed is that you never had real faith. You might have thought so but you didn't. It could also be that the person who was prayed for really didn't have true repentance. So he stayed sick no matter how much faith you had. Keep in mind his sin is connected with his healing... or still it could also mean that the sick person didn't have faith to receive although you had the faith to believe. There are all kinds of reasons why a person is not healed. There's no need to read too much into the text.
@@Somewhereoutthere-wf8zx where’s a scripture to support the not enough faith or still in sin or no repentance connection to physical healing… Healing just like salvation isn’t dependent on an act that we do in this measure or that measure that is blasphemy God is responsible to heal his is responsible to save, according to the word! we ask according to his Will we pray according to his Will the very action of praying is faith what do you think god is like “oh I see you praying but not good enough try again hahah” that is sick!!!!!! This is a terrible belief you have it puts the pressure in a human . Faith is given in a measure according to the Bible Paul wasn’t healed according to the Bible The lame man didn’t say anything according to the Bible The blind boy wasn’t in sin according to the Bible The thief on the cross said remember me and Jesus said done. Where’s the repentance? Where’s the prayer? All he had was his measure of faith which was enough for the ultimate healing …. Salvation The simple sad truth is not everyone is healed this side of heaven !
Hey brother......what bible software do you use?? I've been looking for some software that shows the Greek or Hebrew for every word in the Bible. Can you help me out please?? A devoted Bible student. I'm willing to buy if it gives me what I'm looking for. Thank you for your help.
The statement (save a soul from death) is refering to one living in death or breath and not life. Sin is what they would be in service to. Their master.
Hebrews 6:4-6 paraphrased For it is impossible for those WHO 1. were once enlightened. 2. have tasted the heavenly gift. 3. have become partakers of the Holy Spirit. 4. tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come . If they fall away to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. Question Wrre these believers or non believers?
It was talking about Israel…. There is no sacrifice left. It has now been done away with, no more animal sacrifice, so those returning to that, are out of luck, and there is now only one sacrifice acceptable to God….
@@LaMOi1 I don't think it's talking about animal sacrifices, There is a clear mention of crucifying Christ again and putting Him to open shame. I humbly think it's saved people losing their salvation
Sir- it was the Eastern Fathers that gave you the scriptures!! The church was in existence for 300 years before the Bible you keep talking about? Did you catch this historical fact? This whole scripture alone must be re-examined. -Photios (Eastern Orthodox christian).
@jonathanmcclinton8730 no, believers that arent fed the Bread of Life, believers that get caught up in the cares of the world, and believers that mature. The only ones in this parable that are unbelievers are the ones that did not germinate, that weren't born of the Spirit
I think, perhaps, in my humble opinion, what you may be missing is that there were times, and scripture where physical sickness was a direct result of sin, and in those instances, when Jesus healed the person, he said, go and send no more, unless something worse comes upon you, so he could’ve very well been talking about Physical sickness that was directly connected to sin, therefore in that instance, you would assuredly be healed of a physical sickness. That was the direct result of sin once sin was forgiven.
Those persons were not believers. They became believers after Jesus healed them- many of them, including the demoniacs, started following Him. Secondly, we have no proof that those who were healed were sick BECAUSE of sin. Jesus says, “Go, and sin no more.” or “Your sins are forgiven you.” but this is no proof that they were sick because they sinned.
You have no way of knowing that from scripture text and I will call to your attention Hebrews 11 and six that tells us that in order to even seek him you have to first believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder to them that seek him. So I would argue that if they came to him for healing, they had to believe before not after.. furthermore, that train of thought implies that a believer cannot sin and or be affected by said sin?
Isn’t that the same language Jesus used when talking to the men who brought the woman caught in adultery to him to be stoned? It really is so clear. A definite L for DR B
Jesus said, “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail.” ~Luke 13:24 Paul said, “I discipline my body like an athlete, training it to do what it should. Otherwise, I fear that after preaching to others I myself might be disqualified.” ~I Cor. 9:27 May the Lord open the eyes and ears of His children and soften hearts to know and understand Him. For the Lord is a consuming fire. He is love. He is both at once. Two things can be true/factual at the same time. Like one can be ‘saved’ and go straight to hell if they are walking in and producing fruits of the flesh as Paul warned some churches (not unbelievers). I fully support Dr. Brown’s position. May he be blessed for telling the truth. Let those who have ears to hear…hear.
I agree with the sentiment of training and honing your body to do good for the sake of christ for discipline for you trying to constantly keep him in your mind. But if it wasnt for christ and God choosing us then we wouldnt be able to keep in those diciplines. "For it is not my works it is the christ who works in me "
Romans 8:30 states all that are justified will be glorified. You and Brown say that isn't true, that you can be justified one day and lost the next. I'll stick to scripture and continue to be grateful that God ALWAYS finishes what He starts.
@@chilledmenace1053 I appreciate your explanation and honesty. We’re to take up our cross daily and follow Him, Jesus said. It is the Spirit of God that gives us the desire and will to do what pleases Him (and continued freedom from sin). By remaining in Him we even produce fruits of righteousness by the Holy Spirit. From start to finish - beginning to end He does the work. God bless you☺️
@@johntrevett2944 Agreed -> God will complete the good work He has begun in us because He always keeps His promises. May He be glorified and let us remain in Him. Blessings ☺️
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2 Cor 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
@@TallGlass-fh8qf your contradicting yourself sheep hear there shepherd voice then how can they be lead a stray 😂 there's no but are you saying the shepherd can't protect them?
@@TallGlass-fh8qf I still disagree sheep has personality but given a new heart after God and I didn't ask you to respond the first time thank you one's a sheep always a sheep why would he choose someone in the first place to reject them 🤔
Revelation 22:19. And if Animaniacs shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Great job Corey he is a slippery one that does twist things very often as well will twist many of the scriptures dealing with miracles, sickness , apostles, faith etc. he does it to stand behind his pentacostals word of faith and NAR friends. I wonder does he get consulting money over at tbn. He is always defending a wack a doodle that makes modern Christians look like nut jobs by Christian association. I mean it's hard enough to get the gospel to so e people but this guy defends the crazy twisting away like this very often. He debates to win not on what is just and right Nd I have a problem with that. Literally this word of faith you will be healed stuff has about killed my brother a diabetic a good long standing Christian two times .. he believed there nonsense and quit taking insulin. Why? Cause of these people like this as they are dangerous wolves . He wouldn't ever take responsibility for this yet I am sure people have heard him defend this nonsense false teachings scripture twisting and has bad results as well. I wrecked my knee at 15 from then to 55 i had seven surgeries and then a replacement. But I was on pain meds all that time .. I had to be to work on it. Now it's a new replaced knee joint. But I look at that as a real blessing from God and he didn't literally heal it like I prayed years for. .but I know not every one gets healed. Not one of the word of faith could give me a reason why on all this not why my gramps wasn't healed or my mom's cancer all are just as good of Christians as doc crown and we didn't need to see signs and wonders we just had faith and believed . My mom knew Jesus died for her and us as well my gramps. I asked her 35 years ago but how do you know for sure with our proof .. she explained you read and study the evidence and he will show you . I have read the Bible full on through memories times. .. I got the time to read and start looking at the evidence when I spent 6 months in the county for being a idiot .. I read it and I swear I asked him to prove himself and that's what basically got me locked up to start. When I got to the bunk only one left and only one with a bible. I opened it started reading.. the temptation of Christ.. hmm I had just asked him to prove himself. .. literally he did when I read the temptation and realized what I had just doge. I mean the odds j would get the last bunk with the only Bible and then open that page after I had just committed that sin is well above any odds that don't get altered by the Lord.tbat proved it . I never really have ever believed he isn't the son of God since. I started to change and I am still reading and studying .. your channel is much appreciated. I grew up in awanas so I knew bible verses we memorized them weekly.
"He debates to win, not do what is right." 🎯💥💣 I agree with pretty much of all of this comment, but that one statement sums it up. I have no doubt whatsoever that Michael Brown could read this entire comment and only respond to put you in your place and walk away feeling victorious, despite all the painful personal experiences you've had with this dangerous and deceitful movement. He likes to remind people that he's Jewish. He's a very proud and stiff necked man so I believe him, but he's seemingly even more proud of himself since he began professing Christ. He's the best of both worlds in his own mind, so he boasts in his flesh, in his achievements, in his knowledge and his own vain imaginations.. then has the audacity to accuse his Biblically sound critics of being Pharisees for trusting the Bible more than him and his ilk. He's the mirror image of what he claims to stand against. But praise God for delivering you. Not only from the bondage of sin, but from the bondage of this movement. The Lord bless you and keep you. 🕊️
Cory, When you though you could loose your salvation and you were teaching that. Were you a heretic? A false teacher? Were you actually saved? Were you going to hell?
@@created_by_the_divine_83 Why is it irrelevant? Why not answer the question. I know why. Once people like y’all can’t answer the question y’all go Kevin Samuels. Y’all preach a gospel of works, and not of faith. Prove me wrong. Everything on channels like this is what you have to do and not what God has done.
That’s actually a legitimate question. Because often these UA-cam (some not all) channels present themselves as infallible and sharply call out people who are just as confused as they once were.
@@created_by_the_divine_83 , Why would the questions be irrelevant , usually a person asks questions when they want answers whether they agree with the answer or not .
If we have a American view to it itching our ears then we will keep looking for what we want but Jesus clearly says Matthew 5 John 14 ? And not listening to him do you think that person was really saved to begin with ? 🎯 No they won't adhere to truth.
Sad commentary again. If a person can walk away from the faith once they heard the truth they would have rejected truth. Using that same logic can a person embrace the truth once they hear it and walk away at some point? I do not think anyone can absolutely be sure. I do know there is one way into the Kingdom - Jesus Christ. I also know there is one way out of the Kingdom.... Can a person be assure of their salvation? Yes. How if they endure in Christ until the end. Point Blank. Bro Cory talks about Dr Brown's arrogance. Wow! He appears even more so.
@@johntrevett2944exactly and why would a get oit of jail free card be bad? You know what it is they still believe they are good and they can stop sining all togehter they minimize the requirements of the law in thought word and deed....glory to God that its a get out of jail free card! Disgusting ways they speak against the hily grace and mercy of God
By virtue of that statement, no one who is in leadership is qualified: since they all get angry and impatient at times. How do you judge, then, how much anger or impatience disqualifies you?
As sheep, we often wander away, and we hear our shepherd‘s voice when he calls us back to him. That isn’t the same thing as rejecting the Shepherd all together. That would make you actually a goat. Once the Shepherd includes you in His flock, he cannot lose you. Goats are more independent and curious (worldly) and do not stay flocked together as sheep tend to do (conform to the flock).
Love Cory... love him to death, but I'm with Dr. Brown on this one.
It can’t be this hard!!!!!
I don’t believe God made it that hard for us to know him.
Right! And at the end of the day, God will do whatever he wants. Lol. All I can say is that people need to be honest with themeselves... they know good and well whether or not their seeking God with all their heart, soul, mind and strength.
@SmileyFace90 no one is doing that not even you the cat is oit the bag on that one
@@dedios03 ?
It is not hard to know Him, it is hard to break free from the false or incomplete teachings of personal "feelings" of Him, all we have to do is read His word, He will reveal His truth to you, but we have to read, I spent years going by a scripture here and there, reading out of context, and letting others be my teacher, but even having a good teacher now, it is still up to us, to receive His word, which for me, is harder to accept, because I was always hyped up on how special I was, but now, I see it is Not about me, but all about Jesus, I will pray for you, don't give up! :)
Jesus said narrow is the way and few be there that find it.
I worry about it. I question the big doctrines. There is only one faith, and a criteria to stay within. False doctrine seems to be very dangerous. If you ask me, I see it everywhere. No one seems to know where the gospel originated from. Jesus completed the gospel, he didn't start it. No one ever talks about Abraham. Galatians 3.
Is the trinity true? I don't believe so. I've dived through the scriptures and looked at the Greek. It doesn't make any sense, nor can it be plausible. It reminds me of that one character in Revelation, sets his mark in the temple of God, proclaiming that he is God. Speaking many blasphemies. Well, the Jews, though they misinterpreted what Jesus said, they thought Jesus was making himself out to be God, so they said it was blasphemy. Any sharp reader will recognise that the Jews misunderstood Jesus entirely. Though if they didn't, it would still be blasphemy. So now what does it mean to blaspheme? Because according to mainstream Christianity, the Jews understood God as unitarian, but revealed Himself as a trinity in the New Testament. We have both sides pointing at eachother saying blasphemy. What is more likely? Given the deep investigation, Yeshua HaMoschiach is but the prophet from Deut 18:18. A man, the son of God, the Christ. Just as Peter and John, and the others recognise him as. It saddens me that mainstream Christianity don't even know anything other than the trinity. I believe it is a different Jesus.
Even the doctrine of hell, it's translated from many different words. It's not compatible with even Gods nature. Eternal punishment in hell is contrasted with eternal pleasure in some heaven. The promise to Abraham, is the land of Canaan. God said to Abraham, look north south east and west. The land you see, I will give to you and your seed forever. Again, Galatians 3 Pauls tells us this. Eternal life on earth is the reward, and the alternative contrast is eternal death in the 'grave', 'from the dust of the earth you were created, to the dust you shall return', and 'the wages of sin is death'. How can someone return to dust and die, if they are to live forever in some foreign world on fire? The doctrine of hell poisons the gospel.
As for heaven, I mentioned in my above paragraph the faith of Abraham is the earth. When judgement day comes with the resurrection, the people will come from the earth and the grave. Those who died, are in an unconscious state like a sleep. Death is but a moment away from the kingdom for the elect.
Satan is but the last false doctrine I believe. God did not lock us up in a world with a personal evil entity. Sin comes from within us, when we are drawn away by our own lusts. Paul mentions this, as does James. Jesus was tempted on the mountain in a moments notice, just like us. He knew he was to be king, and knew he had the power to take it. But he did not succumb to it, because he knew it was not his Fathers will, nor the appointed time.
The trinity is very dangerous. I wish everyone would look in to it for themselves.
Corey, I know you have discernment. Genuine question: How can someone that thinks they can lose salvation be trusting Christ alone? Wouldn't they be really trusting themselves to "keep the faith, endure until the end" or whatever verbiage they want to use to cover the fact that they think they are co-savior with Christ. Seems so simple to me and astonishing that any genuinely born again/regenerated believer could ever believe that.
Right smh
@TallGlass-fh8qf that's religion and philosophy. The truth is that Gods word speaks on absolutes, and once you have passed from death to life there is no returning i.e. "shall never perish" once the believer is born again God holds himself to the promise. What are you walking away from anyways? God is everywhere and has sealed himself in you...people like ypu are the ones actually walking aways from the faith you are the onse who don't, alteast currently, believe the promise of EtERNAL life and its always about works too it's never about the actual faith that is that Jesus died for our sins and rose for justification and He sanctifies by His blood one time for ever. It is those who walk away from this i.e osas that are the onse who the bible is concerned about how ironic!
@dedios03 very well said 👏🏼amen! You can't lose your salvation, once the HOLY SPIRIT is in us, we are Sealed upon the day of REDEMPTION and THIS is in the BIBLE. It's actually quite mind boggling that ppl think they can lose their salvation🤡. Like Jesus said " Oh ye of little faith! SMH
Phillipians 1
6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
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We don't keep anything... He does
Hebrews 6:4-8
Appreciate you and see God’s hand on you
I'm just going to do my best to not stray from his path. I'm not gonna test God or worry about if I could loose my salvation. I'm going to follow his voice. I'm going to fight my sin abd do my best.
Lose**
Not loose...
Amen teach my brother teach
Brother Corey, Now, after these past couple of years now of watching you, I understand, and I see why so many have and do, walk away, even when I was in the world, I went there because I did not know the tenements of the faith, our church, from my prekindergarten yrs and on, Never taught them, only the charismaticisms (sorry for the poor spelling) and all of the pentecostal theologies, (Mostly personal thoughts) I was never even taught why we did what we did, only that we were to do them, "Look the part" including mocking others ways of tongues, being on fire, and even scooting around the altar, like I was some hopping rabbit or something, we were not even taught the attributes of the Spirit, only that we did not have it unless we spoke in tongues, I just want to say, Thank you, and I am still praying for you and your family, and I pray even more who have an ear, come to the knowledge of His Truth, and True Holiness.
Corey, I think you’re spot on and I believe this is exampled for us in the book of John when some of Jesus’ “disciples” turned back and stopped following him after a hard teaching:
“When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?” Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.””
John 6:60-69
The TRUE disciples/sheep didn’t turn back, but continued believing 🙏🏾
Always well studied and well said Corey. Thank you!
"If there are any among you... " is the kinda thing pastors say when they know there are some not of their fold sittin in their pews.
”They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.“
I John 2:19 NKJV
Amen Brother
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm still studying...
Salvation essentially means your sins are forgiven and you are going to heaven.
If that is correct, then the question regarding salvation is; have WE said we're saved or has GOD said we're saved?
If true salvation means GOD says we are forgiven and are going to heaven, then in order to argue that could change, you'd have to argue that GOD is not omniscient.
GOD knows my future, HE knows whether or not I'll continue to follow him or if I'll fall away.
If GOD knows my ending before I'm even born and HE says I'm saved, then that cannot change.
We can lie to others, we can even lie to ourselves, but we cannot lie to GOD.
Great assessment exactly the problem is based on Gods faithfulness not ours
John 5:24
John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, HE THAT HEARETH MY WORD, AND BELIEVETH ON HIM THAT SENT ME ( conditional ), hath everlasting life, and shall not come
into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Even the scripture you cited is CONDITIONAL..SMH!
Israel isn't saved until they endure their 70th week without taking the mark of the beast (1 John 5:16). They don't get their sins forgiven until Christ returns to earth at the end of their 70th week. Acts 3:19.
The Body of Christ Church members are forgiven the moment we believe Paul's Gospel of Grace. We are even saved from God's wrath. Israel isn't saved from God's wrath, it's their 70th week of their prophecy. We get raptured before their 70th week begins. They don't get raptured before their 70th week begins. It's their prophecy, not ours.
@seedfarmer0416 God I pray you will open his eyes, heart, and mind to the scriptures in Jesus name amen
You are the first person to verbalize how I view the "early church fathers"... so much of their doctrine was suspect but no one ever talks about that....
In listening to these debates over the years I have come to the conclusion that we are having a discussion between two groups who are Christians while forgetting that the person who believes “I can do whatever I want and call myself a Christian” is sitting back eating popcorn and thinking “Both these groups would say I’m not saved based upon my actions, but I’m not going to interject and just let them go back and forth”…😳😳😳🍿
Your definition of salvation and mine are different. I stated that I was living like the devil, I was selling drugs, doing drugs, fighting, shooting, and had no fruit proving evidence of faith. You stated that due to my sin, I was still saved. Your definition of salvation is false and powerless. Salvation is the deliverance of the power and control of sin. Paul stated that the gospel was the power of God unto salvation. Meaning that faith in the gospel sets you free from living a sinful life. John said whatsoever is born of God does not commit sin, meaning does not practice sin, live a sinful life, or have that infatuation to sin. I believe in true salvation, a salvation that proves Jesus has invaded your temple and His power reigns Supreme over the power of the devil, I believe in true conversion and as Jesus died, my old man dies, and as Jesus is risen my new man has risen and because of that Paul said in romans 6 that we walk in the newness of life.
I encourage you to study the identity of a Saint and the identity of a sinner. The Bible gives examples of both. The Word will let you know if your a lost sinner or a saved saint. Identity in Christ is so powerful and I think God that my assurance isn't in a ideology created by man to excuse sin and illustrate a powerless gospel, but my Holy Ghost filled identity in Christ is explained in the Holy scripture.
That’s why my dad use to tape his sermons all the time.
@16:17 I think Corey misspoke... Did he mean to say "spiritual" instead of "physical"?🤔
Had to laugh at the words on your shirt. People wanting us to use correct pronouns get offended that GOD refers to Himself using the pronoun He prefers.
@14:00 he's right there Corey..Among/amongst you just means if applicable to that existing audience.
I also you thought we were able to loose our faith but I’m questioning that belief, thank you my brother pointing that out! Either way I’m flllowing Christ no matter what happens in life! Christians seem to be so argumentative instead of being teachable, hard head is not of The fruits.
The epistles weren't written to non believers,they were letters written to churches, whatever language they happened to speak back then ,which was Greek, it was written to believers, non believers wouldn't even read the letters or hear them. You assume their congregation was like today's, where anyone can walk in. The church was being persecuted, they were living in caves. You're projecting calling him arrogant
We be sheepin’ smart thunkin’ about the Great I AM
❤️🔥🥰
So, what you’re saying is that this is a matter of “y’all” versus “ALL “y’all.” 😅
@26:40 You would designate and say non-believers not call them brotheren
The blood of Jesus is strong enough to keep us!!! God is able to keep us, so we can rest in his promise to never cast us out once we come to him! Drawn by the Holy Spirit, Given by the Father!
Where can we get this shirt 😭
They are on the website.
James 5:19-20
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
This scripture is self-explanatory and obviously doesn't support OSAS belief.
Keep the true faith in Jesus and you'll remain. The evidence of true faith is true fruit.
OSAS PAINTS THE PIC AS A SINNER AND SAINT LIVING THE SAME EXACT LIFESTYLE.
Did anyone found out what was Michael Brown’s dissertation?
Corey, what you are teaching is so dangerous. A couple of things: 1. It is so scary to "think" that I'm a brother and am not. Your basic answer for those that do fall away is, "they were never a brother". Yikes, how could anyone be secure with this thought process.
2. I would word it, "if there are any non believers amongst the brotheren..." Wouldn't that be the most conscise way to say what you are trying to say to prove your point?
I never seem to catch your live streams, but would love to talk to you. I've given this example in a couple of your other threads, but maybe you'll see it this time.
Let's say that a drug addict repents and gets saved. Lives a saved life for 30 years serving God. After thirty years they fall back into their aweful habit and use any means necessary to support it, from prostitution and theft to violent crime.
Your answer to this...they were never a brother. Wow, I think I'm a brother, but with your rationale, i guess i wont know if I' m not until it's too late. Doesn't sound like the God that i know.
I admire your passion for the word and and your love of God is clear, but OSAS gives too many people license to live however they want to live "thinking" that OSAS. May God have mercy on them AND anyone teaching this.
To point 1.
”They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.“
I John 2:19 NKJV
The drug addict may have participated, felt included for 30 years, he may have never been saved. That’s what 1 John 2:19 describes.
I talk to many “Christians” years of being in church, and I read passages from the Bible and they say, “I’ve never read that.” “I didn’t know that was in the Bible.” They don’t know the word of the One they claim to love.
”Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”“
Matthew 13:30 NKJV
The church is full of wheat and tares. We don’t know who is who, God does. By conversations we can help others to examine themselves to know they are in the faith, or others help us.
”“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”“
Matthew 13:47-50 NKJV
I hope this helps.
@@GodAnchoredLife Is 1 John 2:19 not talking about the anti christ referred to in verse 18 and not ordinary church going people?
@@kediasjackson101 it refers to both. Verse 22 explains what he means by “anti Christ”. The full context is the whole letter of 1 John. It is to believers. God bless you.
Thank you
Bro. Corey, in your opening statements, you mentioned that you don’t put too much stock in the early Church Fathers. Your reason was that they were all fallible men who had some questionable doctrines.
I agree with you.
I’d just say that you could try to word that a bit differently, because you depend on the understanding of Greek scholars by which you interpret the language of the scriptures. They are also fallible and May have some iffy beliefs.
Some may call you hypocritical to only believe other men when their interpretations of scripture line up with your doctrine.
In future please consider that.
Keep on truckin’ for the LORD.
Hmm Polycarp Ireaneus Justin Martyr all taught by John or John taught the ones that taught them .. I get the Didache wasn't exactly right . Close but it isn't inspired .. but wouldn't the ones actually taught by the disciples have there theology spot on if he learned it from John or Paul or Peter I mean sure even the apostles made mistakes . But this was normally pointed out. Polycarp was the first batch of Christian patriarchs that were martyred.
Corey: 2 Timothy 2:17-18. Proves your point. And there message will spread like cancer, hymenaeus & Philetus are of this sort. Who have STRAYED concerning THE TRUTH, saying that the resurrection (a tenet) is already past; & they overthrow the faith of some.
You asked how would you reference the non-believers among you? I know how Paul would reference them. He called them *"UNBELIEVERS"* (1 Cor 14:23-24).
*1 Cor 14:23* "Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or *unbelievers,* will they not say that you are out of your mind?"
*1 Cor 14:24* "But if all prophesy, and an *unbeliever* or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all."
Notice that neither the "uninformed" nor the "unbeliever" seem to be a part of the community of believers here. And when you read from verses (22-24) inclusive, there is a distinction made between "unbelievers" and "believers" (as being the whole assembly).
Therefore, Paul makes an express distinction between believers (the whole assembly) and unbelievers (who visit) the assembly, in this passage.
I feel sorry for all the people who don’t have Greek and Hebrew and Latin and only the word in their respective language
Tongue in cheek smh
how do you have two scriptures at the same time , will i mean i can do that with you tube. but how do you have two translations beside each other, but at the same time having the Greek highlighted over the English word you selected? i think that is very awesome , how ?
There is a program called Logos that gives you the ability to show both at the same time. Logos has different commentaries and versions of the Bible, great resource.
@@shelbysittig1047 thank you very much ! God bless !
If a semantical disagreement was a YT live stream🤭
I'm sheepin' !
Idk why everyone assumes Paul's thorn in the flesh was a physical illness. Not likely. Would we not have heard more about this illness that he pleaded to hv removed from him in his letters with how much he would need to depend on good health to make his extensive travels.
When Brown said that the passage is talking about physical healing when it doesn't happen means the prayer wasn't with enough faith, you shpukd have said, "So then Paul didnt have enough faith since he prayed for healing from the thorne in his flesh and God said "no".... would have been interesting to hear his answer.
Cory, why is it always 5:00 o' clock? lol
Jesus said to that the man who was PHYSICALLY sick of the palsy (who was let down thru the roof) “thy sins are forgiven.” So that verse doesn’t automatically mean that James is referring to SPIRITUAL sickness.
I think you missed the point: IF James is talking about PHYSICAL sickness, and we pray in faith and the person doesn’t recover, then James is a liar.
So since he says the person WILL recover AND his sister will be forgiven, it’s very likely that he isn’t talking about physical illness.
@@elciscoplummer3255 do people ALWAYS recover from SPIRITUAL sickness everytime we pray??? One could make the same argument. He’s obviously referring to physical sickness.
He said thy Sins are forgiven because 1. He wanted the world to see he had the power to forgive sins because he is god in the flesh and 2 it fulfilled the promise in the prophets and 3. Forgiving our sin is of top priority to him and should be to us
It doesn’t negate he can or did heal the body too they are not synonymous.
I would rather have my sin forgiven than a sickness taken away any day of the week !
@elciscoplummer3255
But that's still objective. Because I can still say the reason why the sick person wasn't healed is that you never had real faith. You might have thought so but you didn't. It could also be that the person who was prayed for really didn't have true repentance. So he stayed sick no matter how much faith you had.
Keep in mind his sin is connected with his healing... or still it could also mean that the sick person didn't have faith to receive although you had the faith to believe. There are all kinds of reasons why a person is not healed. There's no need to read too much into the text.
@@Somewhereoutthere-wf8zx where’s a scripture to support the not enough faith or still in sin or no repentance connection to physical healing…
Healing just like salvation isn’t dependent on an act that we do in this measure or that measure that is blasphemy
God is responsible to heal his is responsible to save, according to the word! we ask according to his Will we pray according to his Will the very action of praying is faith what do you think god is like “oh I see you praying but not good enough try again hahah” that is sick!!!!!!
This is a terrible belief you have it puts the pressure in a human .
Faith is given in a measure according to the Bible
Paul wasn’t healed according to the Bible
The lame man didn’t say anything according to the Bible
The blind boy wasn’t in sin according to the Bible
The thief on the cross said remember me and Jesus said done. Where’s the repentance? Where’s the prayer? All he had was his measure of faith which was enough for the ultimate healing …. Salvation
The simple sad truth is not everyone is healed this side of heaven !
Hey brother......what bible software do you use?? I've been looking for some software that shows the Greek or Hebrew for every word in the Bible.
Can you help me out please?? A devoted Bible student. I'm willing to buy if it gives me what I'm looking for.
Thank you for your help.
Accordance Bible Software. The Greek and Hebrew are paid add ons. You can also find commentaries and dictionaries.
Logos works well with that too
The statement (save a soul from death) is refering to one living in death or breath and not life. Sin is what they would be in service to. Their master.
Hebrews 6:4-6 paraphrased For it is impossible for those WHO 1. were once enlightened. 2. have tasted the heavenly gift. 3. have become partakers of the Holy Spirit. 4. tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come . If they fall away to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. Question Wrre these believers or non believers?
It was talking about Israel….
There is no sacrifice left. It has now been done away with, no more animal sacrifice, so those returning to that, are out of luck, and there is now only one sacrifice acceptable to God….
@@LaMOi1 I don't think it's talking about animal sacrifices, There is a clear mention of crucifying Christ again and putting Him to open shame. I humbly think it's saved people losing their salvation
What is a apostate? How can one fall away if he was never there to begin with? Make that make sense?
@@Boseman7 Amen
Anyone know of a good sound church in Houston Texas to go to?
Kingsland Baptist in Katy
If it's not too far, you'll enjoy EX Ministries with Pastor G. Craig Lewis. I'm unsure of the exact location though.
Sugarland Bible Church
Thanks
@ellbanks123 that's more Dallas Fort Worth area than Houston
@MindShift
14:52
Sir- it was the Eastern Fathers that gave you the scriptures!! The church was in existence for 300 years before the Bible you keep talking about? Did you catch this historical fact? This whole scripture alone must be re-examined.
-Photios (Eastern Orthodox christian).
What about Matt. 24?
speaking to Jews
Why would you make another video without Dr. BROWN PRESENT??
thank you
@jonathanmcclinton8730 no, believers that arent fed the Bread of Life, believers that get caught up in the cares of the world, and believers that mature.
The only ones in this parable that are unbelievers are the ones that did not germinate, that weren't born of the Spirit
I think, perhaps, in my humble opinion, what you may be missing is that there were times, and scripture where physical sickness was a direct result of sin, and in those instances, when Jesus healed the person, he said, go and send no more, unless something worse comes upon you, so he could’ve very well been talking about Physical sickness that was directly connected to sin, therefore in that instance, you would assuredly be healed of a physical sickness. That was the direct result of sin once sin was forgiven.
Those persons were not believers. They became believers after Jesus healed them- many of them, including the demoniacs, started following Him.
Secondly, we have no proof that those who were healed were sick BECAUSE of sin. Jesus says, “Go, and sin no more.” or “Your sins are forgiven you.” but this is no proof that they were sick because they sinned.
You have no way of knowing that from scripture text and I will call to your attention Hebrews 11 and six that tells us that in order to even seek him you have to first believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder to them that seek him. So I would argue that if they came to him for healing, they had to believe before not after.. furthermore, that train of thought implies that a believer cannot sin and or be affected by said sin?
Hi Corey, can a Christian be possessed by demons. Thank God for the way He's using you.
Who's the "sinner" in James 5:20 ? Is this the "among" you?
yes the sinner is the "any among you"
Is this the Michael brown that said a sheep can stop being a sheep?
Isn’t that the same language Jesus used when talking to the men who brought the woman caught in adultery to him to be stoned? It really is so clear. A definite L for DR B
You do to much to shape the words of the person you are criticizing... let the video play so we can hear them clearly...
Jesus said, “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail.” ~Luke 13:24
Paul said, “I discipline my body like an athlete, training it to do what it should. Otherwise, I fear that after preaching to others I myself might be disqualified.” ~I Cor. 9:27
May the Lord open the eyes and ears of His children and soften hearts to know and understand Him. For the Lord is a consuming fire. He is love. He is both at once. Two things can be true/factual at the same time. Like one can be ‘saved’ and go straight to hell if they are walking in and producing fruits of the flesh as Paul warned some churches (not unbelievers). I fully support Dr. Brown’s position. May he be blessed for telling the truth. Let those who have ears to hear…hear.
I agree with the sentiment of training and honing your body to do good for the sake of christ for discipline for you trying to constantly keep him in your mind. But if it wasnt for christ and God choosing us then we wouldnt be able to keep in those diciplines. "For it is not my works it is the christ who works in me "
Romans 8:30 states all that are justified will be glorified.
You and Brown say that isn't true, that you can be justified one day and lost the next. I'll stick to scripture and continue to be grateful that God ALWAYS finishes what He starts.
@@chilledmenace1053 I appreciate your explanation and honesty. We’re to take up our cross daily and follow Him, Jesus said. It is the Spirit of God that gives us the desire and will to do what pleases Him (and continued freedom from sin). By remaining in Him we even produce fruits of righteousness by the Holy Spirit. From start to finish - beginning to end He does the work. God bless you☺️
@@johntrevett2944 Agreed -> God will complete the good work He has begun in us because He always keeps His promises. May He be glorified and let us remain in Him. Blessings ☺️
You’d say some among uhhhhh
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
2 Cor 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
A sheep wonder all the time that's why a sheep has a shepherd 😂to guide and protect and if a sheep do walk away it was a clone sheep
@@TallGlass-fh8qf your contradicting yourself sheep hear there shepherd voice then how can they be lead a stray 😂 there's no but are you saying the shepherd can't protect them?
@@TallGlass-fh8qf ok I guess you right 😂
@@TallGlass-fh8qf I still disagree sheep has personality but given a new heart after God and I didn't ask you to respond the first time thank you one's a sheep always a sheep why would he choose someone in the first place to reject them 🤔
Revelation 22:19. And if Animaniacs shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Great job Corey he is a slippery one that does twist things very often as well will twist many of the scriptures dealing with miracles, sickness , apostles, faith etc. he does it to stand behind his pentacostals word of faith and NAR friends. I wonder does he get consulting money over at tbn. He is always defending a wack a doodle that makes modern Christians look like nut jobs by Christian association. I mean it's hard enough to get the gospel to so e people but this guy defends the crazy twisting away like this very often. He debates to win not on what is just and right Nd I have a problem with that. Literally this word of faith you will be healed stuff has about killed my brother a diabetic a good long standing Christian two times .. he believed there nonsense and quit taking insulin. Why? Cause of these people like this as they are dangerous wolves . He wouldn't ever take responsibility for this yet I am sure people have heard him defend this nonsense false teachings scripture twisting and has bad results as well. I wrecked my knee at 15 from then to 55 i had seven surgeries and then a replacement. But I was on pain meds all that time .. I had to be to work on it. Now it's a new replaced knee joint. But I look at that as a real blessing from God and he didn't literally heal it like I prayed years for. .but I know not every one gets healed. Not one of the word of faith could give me a reason why on all this not why my gramps wasn't healed or my mom's cancer all are just as good of Christians as doc crown and we didn't need to see signs and wonders we just had faith and believed . My mom knew Jesus died for her and us as well my gramps. I asked her 35 years ago but how do you know for sure with our proof .. she explained you read and study the evidence and he will show you . I have read the Bible full on through memories times. .. I got the time to read and start looking at the evidence when I spent 6 months in the county for being a idiot .. I read it and I swear I asked him to prove himself and that's what basically got me locked up to start. When I got to the bunk only one left and only one with a bible. I opened it started reading.. the temptation of Christ.. hmm I had just asked him to prove himself. .. literally he did when I read the temptation and realized what I had just doge. I mean the odds j would get the last bunk with the only Bible and then open that page after I had just committed that sin is well above any odds that don't get altered by the Lord.tbat proved it . I never really have ever believed he isn't the son of God since. I started to change and I am still reading and studying .. your channel is much appreciated. I grew up in awanas so I knew bible verses we memorized them weekly.
"He debates to win, not do what is right." 🎯💥💣
I agree with pretty much of all of this comment, but that one statement sums it up. I have no doubt whatsoever that Michael Brown could read this entire comment and only respond to put you in your place and walk away feeling victorious, despite all the painful personal experiences you've had with this dangerous and deceitful movement.
He likes to remind people that he's Jewish. He's a very proud and stiff necked man so I believe him, but he's seemingly even more proud of himself since he began professing Christ. He's the best of both worlds in his own mind, so he boasts in his flesh, in his achievements, in his knowledge and his own vain imaginations.. then has the audacity to accuse his Biblically sound critics of being Pharisees for trusting the Bible more than him and his ilk.
He's the mirror image of what he claims to stand against. But praise God for delivering you. Not only from the bondage of sin, but from the bondage of this movement. The Lord bless you and keep you. 🕊️
Cory he doesn't know what the helicopter flying around his house for. Lol,he lost the debate .RJ brother
Cory,
When you though you could loose your salvation and you were teaching that. Were you a heretic? A false teacher? Were you actually saved? Were you going to hell?
Key word "Thought " speaking in past tense. Therefore, your question is irrelevant
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Why is it irrelevant? Why not answer the question. I know why. Once people like y’all can’t answer the question y’all go Kevin Samuels. Y’all preach a gospel of works, and not of faith. Prove me wrong. Everything on channels like this is what you have to do and not what God has done.
That’s actually a legitimate question. Because often these UA-cam (some not all) channels present themselves as infallible and sharply call out people who are just as confused as they once were.
I’ve never said teaching that someone can lose their salvation makes someone a heretic or false teacher
@@created_by_the_divine_83 , Why would the questions be irrelevant , usually a person asks questions when they want answers whether they agree with the answer or not .
If we have a American view to it itching our ears then we will keep looking for what we want but Jesus clearly says Matthew 5 John 14 ? And not listening to him do you think that person was really saved to begin with ? 🎯 No they won't adhere to truth.
Jesus was 50?😂
Sad commentary again. If a person can walk away from the faith once they heard the truth they would have rejected truth. Using that same logic can a person embrace the truth once they hear it and walk away at some point? I do not think anyone can absolutely be sure. I do know there is one way into the Kingdom - Jesus Christ. I also know there is one way out of the Kingdom.... Can a person be assure of their salvation? Yes. How if they endure in Christ until the end. Point Blank. Bro Cory talks about Dr Brown's arrogance. Wow! He appears even more so.
you can not lose you Salvation !
“Once saved” is a nice get out of jail for free” card. Whew !
Or it's the gospel. The folks that deny it simply put, don't believe the gospel and think salvation is up to them.
@@johntrevett2944exactly and why would a get oit of jail free card be bad? You know what it is they still believe they are good and they can stop sining all togehter they minimize the requirements of the law in thought word and deed....glory to God that its a get out of jail free card! Disgusting ways they speak against the hily grace and mercy of God
It is God’s grace in setting us free from the prison of hell. So yeah, it is a get out of jail free card. So long as you have placed faith in him
Amen Brother Corey 😬@@smartchristians
@@johntrevett2944exactly!
You are not qualified to teach according to the Bible. You are too angry, and impatient
How so? Perhaps you can teach me
By virtue of that statement, no one who is in leadership is qualified: since they all get angry and impatient at times. How do you judge, then, how much anger or impatience disqualifies you?
Where did this come from?
Dr brown alway comes across as arrogant and seem to thumb his nose like people are not as intellectual as him.