Another "VANDALIZED" Heritage Locomotive?
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2023
- Yep, it happened again! Another CSX locomotive has been partially painted in the colors of the railroad that once owned it.
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My grandfather designed that logo!!!! While not condoning vandalism this makes my heart happy!
Really? Did he work for a design firm?
Criminals
@@tylerrose5232 eh shuuuuuhhhh dup
Definitely not vandalism!! 🧐🤫
He worked for the mechanical department and retired as VP of operations when they were bought out by CSX.
I couldn't call that vandalism. Paint shop gone rogue maybe. Always good to see a fallen flag honored!
That’s a liberation is what that is
Autism train enthusiast with a side interests in street art.
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1:14 you can see air bubbles on the RF&P logo, meaning this "vandalism" is actually done with vinyl instead of spray cans. It's quite clever because it can be removed without a revisit to a paint shop if the higher ups get upset enough over it. Honestly, I love this "vandal" and their work on honoring heritage units properly and without actually damaging property!
Logo is vinyl the but the colors are painted. You can see all the overspray on both locomotives, on top of the nose.
He's like the Banksy of old train logos
oh no God forbid the railroads that got rich off of stealing from everyone else, might actually have to spend some of their precious money to repaint their trains because they got vandalized my heart is broken. don't forget the actions of the railroads to acquire land back in the 18th century. they would beg borrow and steal ,and when that wouldn't work, they would just take by force something that wasn't theirs. so my heart is not broken that these multi-billion dollar companies might actually have to spend some money fixing vandalism.
@@mikeprimm4077what is wrong with you?
These 'vandalized' units do look great. It looks like a very professional job.
They look much better than those piece of crap faded heritage units, am I right?
It is interesting that someone in Georgia has done such an accurate job of painting the noses of these engines. I hope that CSX allows these engines to keep these paint schemes.
I kind of actually prefer this sort of Heritage unit over their official ones.
@@TransformerDadSame.
6914 has already had its nose painted back to CSX colors. I expect this one to head to the paint booth on next inspection date.
@@scottkuelz7264 No, only the top of the nose where the glare shield is was painted back into CSX blue. Other than that Chessie is still on it.
@@therailroader1 wait really??? I’m actually surprised CSX didn’t touch the nose then. Huh, I guess I should give them more credit on not being bothered by it.
The RF&P was "a class act from the ballast up", as one of my train-watching buddies once said. I'm thrilled to see the logo adorning the nose of an actual RF&P survivor. If I were King at CSX there would be 3 locomotives painted coupler-to-coupler in every paint scheme version worn by the predecessor railroads, starting with the SAL citrus scheme.
And tons of fresh Bright Future 90s paintjobs too
True heritage, he even takes the time to find the origins of an engine before painting it.
I doubt someone broke into a yard an painted these. I would guess that a couple of employees are in cahoots with each other, secretly giving engines a repaint, and then acting like they had nothing to do with it.
So far the power that's been painted ends up on a local train which gets tied down overnight at the end of the branch it serves, in a very small town. The area they get parked is easily accessible and they're kind of unprotected, so my guess is that it happens then, when they're far away from any main yard or terminal.
I accidentally believe this the most
Bingo!
@@markcoopertennerino6028 And how would one do such an admirable, clean job, in absolute darkness?
@@lillywholantern.
I think it is an inside job. Who else would have access to the stickers after the paints applied but either a CSX painter or other RR painter or connected to said person. But that is just my opinion. The railroads need to hire them to do more like these.
Both locomotives LOOK SO GOOD!
Agreed
"Boys, we're dealing with a criminal here. We're dealing with a serial painter who's hell-bent on avenging the death of his favorite railroads by repainting the locomotives which once served them."
I usually don’t condone “vandalism” per say but whoever’s doing this definitely needs to keep doing it. They’re absolutely fantastic and knowledgeable about what locomotives they paint and the history that locomotive has, and they’re very professional when they paint and you can tell they have honed there craft and appreciate the equipment they “quote on quote” vandalize… and they try very hard not to destroy or damage anything on the locomotives they paint.
Yeah it would be really nice if CSX or any other railroad could just hand off a loco or car or whatever and let some people paint it up. It's only minorly impacting the company's operations and CSX can get their money back by having the painters pay to paint the loco.
@@turnerdeedo4633 That would actually be amazing. A class 1 contacts a preservation group with a list of fallen flags they own and an older locomotive to be repainted. The heritage group can then combine a vintage livery with modern necessities to create a best of both that keeps the past alive.
@@turnerdeedo4633 I think that’s a great idea tbh. I don’t know why CSX wants to paint over these paint jobs when they literally own the rights to the fallen flag railroads this person is painting. I mean it’s literally companies CSX purchased or merged with to create the company the now are today. Unless legally there is others like family who own some rights to the old RR’s that are painted like these… idk but I think CSX should leave them but knowing what they did with the Chessie paint job they’ll probably send this one to the shop soon to get repainted over again. 😑
"I'm not saying this is good, but I hope they keep doing it" bro what 🤣
Honestly these look better than the "official" CSX heritage units.
One thing is for sure; Not ALL Heroes wear a Cape.
According to a csx face page I fallow those engines had there noses painted by csx employees I think they did a good job I love them
I think it’s fantastic and whoever’s doing it. Big shout out. Thank you. Keep up the good work buddy I cannot wait to see what’s next.
Whoever is doing this clearly knows railroad history. I was unaware of any RF&P units still working for CSX. I wouldn't mind this if CSX authorized it, but stuff like this shouldn't be done and you should never be on railroad property without permission. When I go to a rail yard to film trains, I usually ask for permission to be there first. If I don't get it, I'll go somewhere close by to film the action or wait for it to come out of the yard. There is a yard close to where I live that I have standing permission from the yard crew. I asked to film there so often that one of them said that I could do so without asking so long as I follow a few things. 1:park my car where it won't be in the way of work vehicles (he pointed out where). 2: don't get in the way and interfere with what they are doing. 3: always stay off the tracks, even if no trains are moving. They would get in serious trouble with the railroad if they allowed me to set even one foot on the ballast. His colleagues that were with him that day quickly backed him up on that last one. So since then I do that with that yard, making sure to follow their rules. This yard also has a metal barrier between the parking area and the tracks, so I go no further than that border line. But all other yards, I ask permission first. The railroads don't allow trespassing for safety issues and many also don't allow it so as not to have issues with insurance companies. Please do not be anywhere along railroad tracks and in rail yards without permission and if you do get permission, make sure the railroad personal know where you are at all times and stay where they tell you to. Today's trains are for the most part quieter than years ago. Many trespassers could tell you that they didn't hear the train until it was literally upon them....if they survived.
This actually happened recently on a short line in my area. Somebody took one of the old ex-conrail b32-7r locomotives, (which was all patched up) and painted the old Conrail quality logo back on one side, and the nose of the
really? hmm. odd coincidence or something else?
Do you have a picture?
@WMAC_Master I got a couple videos of it on my channel. There's a clip of it in my ohio central b23-7r tribute video ( Is not trying to promote my channel)
@@Realohiorailroadproductionscool thakns i'll check them out!
im honestly excited to see what this mystery artist will do next.
The next thing is now csx 2625 is now vandalized with lan on the nose jam pretty sure it was the same guy who did it with the rf@p and the chessie system.
I'd take this kind of tagging over what we see normally ANY DAY. Props to the artist, but don't get caught!
Paint shops do a little trolling 🤪
Like Banksy. But for railroads.
I like the neutral stance you took in this video and spent most of the video talking about it's hertiage instead wishing a petty vandal a cruel and unusual death like some of the more extreme railbuff have called for. I also like the fact that you were able to get a good shot of it. Lighting be damned this is one of the better videos/pics I've seen of this unit.
Speaking with someone who works in the CSX main offices in Jacksonville, they aren't entirely sure what to do with the 'vandals' as they call these locomotives. The work is being done at a local maintenance depot, and while unsanctioned, CSX is recognizing the popularity of these locomotives. There's some serious talks going on in the background about keeping the three vandals looking the way they are now with their noses. According to my friend, there's a third one with an ACL purple and silver nose already down at Waycross.
Some details: The Chessie nose "vandal" started out that way after that engine needed a repair on its short hood. The repair depot performed this job, and instead of painting the engine in the typical CSX yellow nose, had a bit of harmless 'fun' with it. The "Chessie" logo is a vinyl wrap/sticker, and meant to be easily removed. Same goes for the RFP locomotive, and ACL locomotive. They were all in the repair shop around the same time, for similar issues. (I believe the RFP locomotive had peeling paint on her nose and parts of her body, while the ACL was present for something internal needing maintenance).
My friend notes that these locos may have also been painted by "accident". Specifically, he notes that CSX corporate had a number of plans for the heritage locomotives, and they seem to recall that this specific 'minimalist' paint was one of the proposed paint schemes. He stated that while he believes it was a CSX shop that did the paint work for the above listed issues, that it may have happened that the maintenance depot responsible were of the impression that these were an official paint scheme. Hence the small CSX logo on the nose.
If it’s one person with some rattle cans, CSX needs to hire them. If it’s the paint shop, CSX needs to get them some more paint. And a raise.
No way this is vandalism in the sense of someone unconnected with CSX doing it, quality is just too good. This has to be something internal, with some tacit approval at least at the local level.
☝🏼 This. Does the person in the big corner office at CSX headquarters know who is doing it, probably not. Is it being done by someone(s) getting a paycheck from CSX on the down-low after “approva” from someone in a smaller corner office ….most certainly. Plus it’s not exactly bad publicity, even a little fun with the “mystery”.
@@davidpearson3304doubt they are getting paid to do it, likely they are getting old paint from the paint shop at the end of the day and using it for this purpose
I do not give a shite WHO did ,this but simply applaud the effort . The result is a far cry better than the repaints coming out of the Waycross shops. This is the way a Heritage locomotive should look , those fools at CSX have NO clue what they are doing. The side and end paint job with that stupid "FADE " , not even worth a photo . I saw the B&O unit in Georgia this fall and did not even realize it was a "Heritage " unit until it passed me. Imagine this ; All CSX Heritage units parked on turntable tracks at a roundhouse , THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE from the front !! GREAT JOB CSX !!??
bad news, another locomotive was vandalized, this one is GP38-2 2625, her front was painted into the Louisville and Nashville colors
The fact they added the bottom yellow 9as opposed to the RFP blue that should be there) as a safety against a solid grey nose (Which CSX learned the hard way about solid light grey) says this is an unsanctioned shop job.
On bothe jobs, the lines are crips, and clean, and no dirt underneath or paint running. The unit was clearly washed before painting and allowed to dry between layers, then allowed more time to dry to apply decals. Even still, all safety decals, many of which would not have been there in the original paint, are applied.
Thi sisnt something some railfan did with stencils and some cans of spray paint, this is a shop job.
I vote YES on the CSX hybrid heritage paint schemes. Very cool.
Another interesting note, CSX 4419, one of the last 4 remaining YN2 painted Geeps on CSX, recently got some of its YN2 paint touched up while it was in Georgia. It looks cleaner and less faded now, and you can tell. The interesting thing about this is it happened in Georgia, the same place these other two have happened. It is widely believed its the same person or group doing this, and I wonder what will happen next
Something similar happened here in Canada. One of the new all-grey grain hoppers got spray painted into a blue and yellow Alberta Heritage scheme. Great work in all of these cases in the era of souless railroading.
Hope to see them at the N.C. Transportation Museum in Spencer, N.C. during their next railfan days.
Cool video! I prefer the way Norfolk Southern and NJ Transit (and now Metro North) have done their heritage locomotives (the whole engine is a throwback)....but ANYTHING that throws a nod to fallen flags is cool.
I like it. It’s nice to recognized the past. I am tired of the regular graffiti
I used to see RF&P running bare engines through Philadelphia up to Trenton, NJ in the late 80's. I forget the time exactly, but it was something late, like 9 PM to 11 PM that they would head up. There was even one day I was thinking they had some sort of electric hybrid engine running on battery, but I've never seen so much as a web page claiming such a thing was ever built. A group of 2 or 3 units came through so quietly one day that I was certain the diesels weren't running.
Another great video!
Thanks man!
About those new heritage units, I would like to see it painted in the FULL Railroad paint scheme that it represents, because Union Pacific does that too
That's too professional to be done by railfans overnight. Look how clean and crisp it is. No overspray. All reflectors and warning placards visible. This must have taken some time and in the necessary facility to do so.
Maybe not a railfan, but a rogue modeler perchance.
Nah you'd be surprised what people can accomplish. Also it's not painted, it's a vinyl wrap which is way faster and definitely doable overnight. I don't think CSX is creative enough to do this
No overspray? Look at top of the nose on the glare shield of both locomotives. Tons of overspray on it. You can get a decently good paint outdoors and even in the night. If you know what you're doing. It was done by a more professional painter, but that painter is probably a railfan.
UPDATE: CSX 2526 was vandilized too
this was vandilized into L&N
It’s obvious that whoever is doing this is a professional. No amateurs painting the engines! I love the heritage designs. I believe an in-house job!!👍👍
Amazing! Love to see the new 'Heritage Locomotives'! This might be an act of rebellion in spite of the new formal CSX heritage Locomotives! Good videos as always and amazing shots V12!
This is awesome! I live down the street from a very busy small yailyard, ill have to keep my eye out for some of these.
Maybe this paint shop can put a B&O capital dome on the front, and a WM fireball on another. Someone did their proper homework to do an engine that originally would've had same paint scheme under csx paint
Whoever is doing this worked in a paint shop or has a amazing gift. They also are a hard-core foamer researching the exact locomotive and painting its nose to what it once wore. Really impressive tbh sucks that yes it is illegal but still cool to see.
"The shop Forman said the nose of 3694 is looking a little beat up. Send it to the paint shop after its regular maintenance." Paint shop, "We got it covered!" And this is how these engines get on the road. Sure! We can paint it the standard colors, but it takes us exactly the same time to make something fun.
That's cool spray paint although its vandalism. What's next a Northfolk Southern nose? Because CSX GPs kinda look like Northfolk Southern locomotives because they have them distinctive ditch lights!
I find it hard to believe that it’s not some “inside job” being done. It’s not like those paint jobs can be done in half an hour. It would take close to half an hour just to tape it all off. How would anyone else know whaat the schedule of the loco is and when it would be put into service.
A lot of these GP40’s do small local town jobs and they end up getting parked at a end branch line that usually isn’t secured most of the time. My local small RR actually parks one of there high hood GP18’s on a mid section of a branch line just outside of my local town. The track they specifically park it on has no fencing or anything and anybody can walk right up to it or even climb on it (something not recommended imo). So it’s not impossible for somebody to take there time and paint it through the night on a secluded part of the line it sits on… with it being a decent way from its rail yard.
@@Jabba.Da.Hutt_
Thank you for this information. I had not considered that.
From the video appearance at least, it still looks like a very professional job and it’s quite cool in my opinion that it’s the nose that’s being painted.
It still seems a bit risky though as someone would definitely have to have it lit up with lights in order to do such a good job at night time and I wouldn’t want to risk it with possible police patrolling.
Thank you again for your insight. This is what I love about the railfan community. Everyone is so kind and supportive to one another.
Merry Christmas to you and yours, and to the other railfans here.
@@Shaken_AND_Stirred yes sir, and a merry Christmas to you too. 🫡
They're not paint Jobs, they're vinyl wraps. That's definitely doable overnight
@crimetimeproductions6340
Now that is something that I had not considered, and yes indeed, is doable.
Thank you!
I really can't think of it as vandalism. Who ever is doing this is talented and I'm pretty sure the railroads aren't up in arms. It's one thing when some idiot with a can of Krylon goes out and tags something stupid on an engine but this is different. This is artistic nostalgia. I like when these stories pop up and hope to see more. Nice vid btw.
I was honestly excited when I heard about this because I live along the former RF&P Mainline
I think they look good. Whom ever is doing this, is doing it tastefully and selects the locomotives that have the correct heritage. Keep it up...
Plate C
Whoever is doing it I say keep it up.
NS is having a great run of positive publicity with their Heritage Units. CX just took a little longer to realize it! Love the paint jobs!
It looks nice! Even thought it is "vandalism". It would be cool to see them in a yard set.
Whoever is doing it is doing an awesome job and it celebrates rail history. Although CSX is probably not appreciating the work and one has to keep in mind what would you do if someone painted a mural on your house, tastefully celebrating the original occupants. It is an interesting idea though... but still an illicit un sanctioned celebration of rail history.
my goodness
now I wanna see a Conrail and seaboard system unit.
Maybe these locomotives are a covert act by CSX to see how well the heritage scheme would be received by the railfan community. Stranger things have happened.
This is one of the reasons I am happy to livr where Union Pacific is, because when it comes to their heritage units, they don't half-ass them like CSX.
I think the railroad is doing it, its to perfect and plus both units are in Georgia where the painting is done.
CSX wanted to keep it that way and if someone did this, they might be doing a great job.
I guarantee that this is gonna keep happening, it’s probably the same person doing this for the heck of it. I don’t condone vandalism at all but you’ve gotta admit it looks cool!
the people that did this, and it was more than 1 person to do this quick, without geting caught, should be hired because of the talent!
I mean they put the "watch your step" warning signs! this is not vandalism, this is ART!
I agree with the complaints of others. I don't like the fact that the entire locomotive isn't painted in the full colors of the predecessor railroad and that needs to change IMO.
Hartwell railroad has a unit from this railroad that's still running it's number is 136
And it's a GP35! The rarest of 2nd generation EMD locomotives. I'm surprised that so many ex-RF&P units still survive, given their lack of dynamic brakes. CSX wasted no time moving them south after the merger. I started taking photos of the RF&P in 1985; their last 2 paint schemes with the stylized logo on the nose are my favorites.
Send #136 to a museum. It should join the other GP35s in preservation
Anyone who doesn't think this is a blatant stab at CSX's attempt at heritage units needs to open their eyes. It's not a freaking coincidence these two popped up after CSX started their heritage unit program. The two geeps both have nearly reverse paint jobs that the official heritage units have, and they look so much better. If CSX would start that style on the hertiage units, a lot of railfans would be a lot happier. I get that CSX doesn't care about pleasing railfans with the heritage schemes, but these vandalized units are meant to show CSX how much better this style would look on heritage units, and hopefully catch the eye of someone who would suggest a change. Still obviously very very unlikely that would ever happen lol. But they're showing CSX up with these paint jobs. The "CSX" in the bottom corner tops it off
I wouldn't be surprised if CSX is doing this and pretending to have no idea
That’s not an act of vandalism… that’s a liberation
It's gotta be a rogue shop, the level of quality and the fact the heritage logos match to the history of the units says it all.
The RF&P letting is so good looking!
I kinda like the 75% legacy look fading to 25% CSX. It certainly isn't "period" correct, but it still looks better than full CSX livery because it stands out. It provides a bit of consistency since CSX is the amalgamation of loads of smaller lines. As a kid I used to watch the L&N trains roll by until they became part of CSX.
And the front 75% needs to be the legacy livery fading into CSX not the other way around.
Honestly I think CSX is testing to see if people like this better but don't want to admit it. For the record yes, it looks better.
This... is... awesome. I'll go fund this guy for more💪🏽
I will say this about whoever '"vandalized" that locomotive: they're not railfans, but wanted to give other railfans something interesting to watch.
Since the two locomotives have been older ones, I wonder if a decision was made secretly by a few higher ups to paint/vinyl wrap the front of only the locomotives that actually served with the heritage companies.
You can rest assured it wasn’t me, as I can’t paint, draw, or do anything art related that doesn’t involve putting Lego bricks together. Plus, I don’t live anywhere near CSX territory, at least, that I’m aware of. Question, does CSX run through Missouri? I don’t think it does. I know the AT&SF, BNSF, LRTS, and SNCF all run through Missouri, right through my basement in fact. Yay!
2:15 "Jerry did you install these doors upside-down?"
"Noooo, why would you think that?"
"THE LETTERS ARE UPSIDE DOWN, JERRY!"
"...oops."
Well it's better than that graffiti that shows up on railcars (well most of it anyway)
It'd be hillarious if CSX was playing with us because we wanted them to paint the noses
HRT 136 is still around but it’s sitting on a storage track coupled up with scrap cars but it’s sitting there for a while
Here ya go, CSX! More vandalized heritage units coming right up!
I wonder what this artist is going to do next, but i would honestly like to see if the person who did this paints an entire locomotive in a different paint scheme, like a seaboard system GP38-2.
This gotta be someone who knows someone or an inside job an old paint shop guy if something, I ain’t a conspiracy person but a chessie a fresh yn2 and now this RF&P. They look so good I wonder who or what this is.
Did you know that the last major railroad to get painted locomotives is that BNSF. The first railroad company was Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific CPKC, CSX and the last one is BNSF
It’s gorgeous! So was the Chessie engine. CSX should offer the person a job!
I bet it's some retired RR guys having a little juvenile delinquency surge.
I love it
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This guys gonna do one for every unit CSX doesn’t fully paint.
As I say "It's not vandalism if your making it look better"
Numbers are still clear, Still got CSX on the sides.
Just the bonnet repainted. It doesn't effect operations arguably slightly improoves since locomotives are easier to spot.
6914 was repainted back into csx at waycross and as soon as it arrived back it was repainted into chessie again
Awesome video Charlie! Planning to see it soon around that area.
Thanks man! Good luck.
what if CSX is doing it themselves, just to add more publicity and more to the heritage fleet?
Great stuff as always!
Curious how that NH locmotive at the 0:25 mark. ended up on the RF&P.
Love it!
The chessie system one was repainted to CSX nose colors on 10/25 in Chattanooga:(
They both look beautiful
“It has been moved down to Waycross” is a bad sign because that could mean the art could be taken off the hood of the locomotive! :(
I first thought that this was sanctioned by CSX, but if that was the case then they would have strpped the warning stickers off, but they were just taped over. Look at the STEP sticker and you can see that it was taped off and on the door. But it took a few people to pull this off.
Doing the lord’s work, whoever’s doing it.
I shudder to think what CSX’s RF&P heritage locomotive will look like. This looks better.
2… 2 VANDALIZED UNITS but whoever did do it is amazing