Private Tridentine Masses during the Second Vatican Council [1962]

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  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2023
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  • @CaeremonialeRomanum
    @CaeremonialeRomanum  Рік тому +4

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  • @billm1014
    @billm1014 Рік тому +40

    My Grandpa was born in the 1930s and remembers when priests in cathedrals would say private low masses.

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet Рік тому +32

    At my parish, during the regular Tridentine Rite Mass, I once saw a priest saying a requiem mass alone (using black vestments) at one of the side altars while the main altar was being used for the regular Sunday service.

  • @vincentloutkovnguyen1428
    @vincentloutkovnguyen1428 Рік тому +25

    What an epic sight!

    • @ferdinandpangan6494
      @ferdinandpangan6494 Рік тому +4

      It would have been such an absolute honor to witness, if not assist even one of the priests in offering this Sacrosanct Mass

  • @francisheperi4180
    @francisheperi4180 6 місяців тому +4

    Sedevacantists do it a lot, pre-55 Mass. I've gone over to them. Very beautiful.

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 2 місяці тому +1

      😮Weird. That is not a good reason to go to Sede types. I was in Rome FSSP this Holy Week 2024 and they did the whole Triduum Pre-1955. No need to reject Peter even if he is a bad Pope he is still Peter. I also go to SSPX as well as FSSP on ocasion.

    • @francisheperi4180
      @francisheperi4180 2 місяці тому

      @@karlheven8328 I stand by what I've said!

    • @MarkEliasGrant
      @MarkEliasGrant 2 місяці тому

      Sedevacantist is a great way to say separated crazies.

    • @francisheperi4180
      @francisheperi4180 2 місяці тому

      @@MarkEliasGrant Whatever. I am very comfortable with sedevacantism. Half-pie trads are the crazy ones not us.

  • @fabriziosavoldini8397
    @fabriziosavoldini8397 Рік тому +8

    Non è solo nostalgia di quei tempi la mia. Bensì ferma convinzione che oggi stiamo sbagliando!

    • @hectornino3257
      @hectornino3257 Рік тому

      Perchè? Si la comuniones dei credenti è la natura della Santa Messa, come mai una celebrazione cosi privata????

  • @ruysteinjunior37
    @ruysteinjunior37 7 місяців тому +6

    Messale di Pio V. Unico e vero🙏🇻🇦🙏🇻🇦🙏🇻🇦

  • @francescovaudo6401
    @francescovaudo6401 Рік тому +5

    Didn't the Council of Trent forbid the celebration of Mass without a minister?

    • @fredericguignabaudet5679
      @fredericguignabaudet5679 Рік тому +12

      I think you are right but it was Pius XII who decided that it would be tolerated that a priest may celebrate mass without a servant, though it is still preferable for him to have a servant.

    • @CaeremonialeRomanum
      @CaeremonialeRomanum  Рік тому +10

      Even today it is possible to celebrate Mass without a minister (what is different is the situation when a priest celebrates Mass alone, without anyone). Church regulations also provided for such a situation in the past. It is interesting to see how monks in "traditional" monasteries celebrate their Masses (or how they did it in the past).

    • @CaeremonialeRomanum
      @CaeremonialeRomanum  Рік тому +1

      @@jorgearturovillegasuribe2603 What does this comment refer to?

    • @francescovaudo6401
      @francescovaudo6401 Рік тому +1

      @@fredericguignabaudet5679 thank you, I didn't know this

    • @francescovaudo6401
      @francescovaudo6401 Рік тому +1

      @@CaeremonialeRomanum I still haven't found any "rubricista" who justified the celebration of Mass without a minister, even in extreme cases. From what I've read even hermits needed a special permit to do that. Once the minister represented the whole assembly, now he's mainly a servant who facilitates the celebration of a plain Mass

  • @katongochanda1
    @katongochanda1 Рік тому +1

    This Council was very important in the history of the Church, it produced a series of documents to direct the life of the Church in the twentieth century and beyond..... 🙏🏿

    • @francisheperi4180
      @francisheperi4180 Рік тому

      No it wasn't. Vat. II need not have happened but the modernists pushed for it soon after Pius XII died. They spent 3years planning it. They destroyed the Church to the point of denying Catholics their inheritance with regard to the Latin Mass. Now young people flock to it.

  • @MarkEliasGrant
    @MarkEliasGrant 2 місяці тому

    The absurdity of having a liturgy without a congregation. In the Eastern Churches this is prohibited, as it should be.

  • @hectornino3257
    @hectornino3257 Рік тому

    La enseñanza del Concilio Vaticano II sobre la Iglesia cómo Pueblo de Dios, nos ha rescatado de esa forma de celebrar tan alejada de la comunidad y sin sentido teológico

    • @untalrafa6531
      @untalrafa6531 Рік тому +10

      Ja! Sin sentido teológico. Qué insensatez.
      La Misa tiene cuatro fines, y puede oficiarse con o sin fieles. Además el Concilio en ningún momento proscribe las Misas privadas señor.

    • @hectornino3257
      @hectornino3257 Рік тому

      @@M.C.36 quindi il sacrificio non è per la Chiesa. È una ópera divina sensa vinculo con questo mondo

    • @optimusprime6539
      @optimusprime6539 3 місяці тому

      Hector, a missa é para Deus, pode ou não ter o povo. O Concílio Vaticano ll não proibiu apenas salientou que precisa de um ministro para responder ao sacerdote em nome do povo. Tenha vergonha na cara, deixe de ser mentiroso. Você já é um herege protestante. Lástima