Yeah its overlooked by a lot of people, since to many grain is seen as an unwanted part of video footage, but in reality it's a secret weapon for avoiding compression and creating a filmic look at the same time!
The video is way too long. 2-3 minutes would have been enough. And the picture quality is so muddy that you don't even want to look at the content. Nevertheless, thanks for the tip.
that's absurd, adding grain makes the h264 work even more as it's moving particles everywhere. The trick is to not film trees, forests, moving lakes or waters, fast moving objects in far sides of screen, confetti, rain, snow, unless all these are shot in super slowmotion. I tend to add little blur to background by masking the subject in every shot if there are lots of trees behind. the main enemy is forests and trees avoid them and you'll be fine.
You have pretty messed up the container vs codec issue - MOV, MP4, cDNG are containers, AVC, HEVC, JPEG are the codecs. And UA-cam utilizes mostly its own VP9 and will reencode to AV1 when views hit milions. The AVC version is made just for quick trash / recent uploads and unviewed videos, usually on a fast profile so its the reason why its so blocky. The way out would be to allow creators to pay for an extra re-encoding effort (or certified encoders, that run at uploader's end). Btw you can re-download the files, and compare their sizes if you havent deleted them, I bet the +grain will have increased average bitrates.
@@RoccoGermani yes, here you are correct now. Those four are codecs. But every codec is just sort of a "language", and its up to the specific encoder and its setting, to what extent it uses its possibilities. Its more visible in the avc/hevc things that have a very wide variety of settings and possibilities, while in prores/dnxhd its more controlled, eg. by force-fitting into their CBR target.
Thank You! I might try this. I just uploaded a video that was my first using DaVinci Resolve (free) I was disappointed in how UA-cam made it look. I had a mix of 1080p and 4K footage (From Iphone) that I rendered out as QuickTime 1080 HD. I noticed that the 4K shots looked somewhat better. (My time-laps footage looked terrible!) I'm subscribing because you put so much time and effort in making your tutorial.
Glad I was able to help! And exporting in 4K can definitely make a huge difference, even if you didn't film in 4K, I did it for years back when my cameras were all 1080p and it worked great, and still works great to this day. One setting I've been using a lot lately for exports that I've found gives clean results is using mp4 H.265 for the render, with Constant QP instead of constant/variable bitrate. Worth checking out if you're still experiementing with methods to avoid compression. Thank you for watching and subscribing!
Nice share Rocco. The only thing missing in this video is showing the before and after... without having to dig thru your archive. Also.. did I miss your favorite or recommended setting? Thanks.
"Do whatever you want. Export in 8K.. why not." I laughed out loud at that one man! Great video thank you for the tips! I've been battling some pretty heavy compression with my latest project and this helped a lot! Thanks fam. Also all the shade that's being thrown in this comment section is super undeserving and unwarranted, but everyone is a critic I suppose.
I like grain. But (there is always a big but): compression is there for reducing effort in storage and transmitting which costs energy/money. Grain adds chaos. And chaos is hardly compressable. Thats why the algorithm struggles (try to compress eg. pure white noise - it is not possible because it is unpredictable). I like grain. But for the sake of saving energy I try to use it wisely. Have a good day and thank you very much!
MP4 is not a format, it's a container. MP4 on its own cannot (within reason) "look good or bad". That's like blaming on the bucket when the water inside is muddy.
would have been much better if you dont overuse blackpromist filter and like 80% of the runtime with your face on it. Just capture how you do it in the software, and speal your way through ---> would have been better
@@underthedrone2735 it seems to be some users only. There is no setting I can find on my page or business page to increase to HD. It appears to be random allowance??
@@browncatt1 : I don't upload to FB because I know their compression ruins the video so I use UA-cam which isn't perfect but is better than FB. I'm assuming the video has to be in a higher resolution to begin with when uploading it in order to give the option of viewing it in a higher res but I don't know for sure. YT vids can easily be shared too which is a big plus over private group pages on FB.
cool tutorial but something about how you've lit your facecam is just sooooooo discomforting but thats probably just me. lookin real ominous in the shadows.
I was hoping for a way to completely bypass re-compression by uploading with the same settings that UA-cam uses. Good tip with the grain to trick the encoder though! On another note - and this is really awkward - I know it's 24 fps or GTFO in movie enthusiast circles, but the jittery playback of 24 fps YT on a 60 Hz playback device irritates me. 😋
@@RoccoGermani I didn't check Fusion before but I just did and it did add it. However the settings are very different than the ones you showed with the preset so you might want to make a video showing how to do this in Fusion.
Make a new adjustment layer that goes over the whole timeline and apply the effect there. You can drag and drop an adjustment layer in from the effects panel in the edit tab.
I play Games in true 4k and drop to disk via OBS Studio. I take a .mp4 @ 4k with 60FPS and 80mbbs bitrate that is 9 gigs Via Davinci Resolve fusion, upload it to UA-cam for 2 hours and it gets compressed to 523 mb. Still says it's 1440p60 but it's not and pixelates on screen. Not sure how this applies to me.
I'm using DaVinci Studio and film grain does remove a lot of banding in H264 and H265. I'm trying to find the best settings for a film project. Do you also apply Halation with grain that is used by many pro colorist for that film look?
I have a bit of a different process for film emulation... I add both grain and halation but not in the same node. My process for halation typically involves using Dehancer, which I've talked about in another video on my channel. Even though I use Dehancer for halation, I still use Davinci's film grain as I prefer it over dehancer. If the only option for you to get halation is with the default halation node inside of Davinci, do that, but don't use the film grain option within that effect. I recommend adding a separate node with the grain effect I used in this video.
Please answer this for me; The video codec issue with uploading videos is making me nuts. The AVC1, by default, apparently, is what many complain about regarding UA-cam videos that they post, including myself. So I see that choppy video from my PC. Now, watching the same video, as I would, but on my Galaxy S23, it looks as it should on there, provided I make sure that I go into : Settings; Advanced, then go down the list to 1080P. That's all I have to do to make it look fine on there. But No matter what I do on the PC, it looks crappy. Is there a different codec or something that UA-cam requires and sets, depending on what you watch a video on? Is it my computer? The computer is about 10 years old, but it's a DELL Inspiron 7559, 64 bit, Intel i7. It should have more than enough power and resources, although seems to struggle with UA-cam videos that are 1080p or higher lately. Didn't used to be. What could be the issue here?
It likely will help a little but, but when the resolution is lowered considerably as well as the bitrate for those websites, you might have to increase the grain strength.
@@RoccoGermani I will try it. Save and get an Evo 2 pro soon. Well worth it. I was lucky to find a new one on ebay with 2 batteries flown only once which was returned to seller. Got it for €1000.
This video is probably good but I can’t watch past a few seconds with the haze/mist filter you have on or if you don’t you seriously need to clean the lens. I feel that a video about making your videos look better on UA-cam should look really good.
Hi! Thank you for expressing your feedback, I appreciate it. I am using a pro mist filter, which is meant to bloom the highlights. I personally do not like overly sharp images unless I am doing work for a client who requires it, as I prefer a more filmic look. Thank you for watching!
What’s the difference between the paid vs free davinci resolve? Planning on upgrading to finally editing on a computer this year, and I’d definitely start using davinci if I can’t get premiere free through school
Davinci Resolve Studio has access to all of the features and effects as well as GPU acceleration on supported machines. (faster decoding, rendering and effects) You also unlock the ability to work with more video formats (10 bit, 12 bit, and even higher) as well as tons more functionality in the color tab. Worth the $300 in my opinion!
I thought this was a troll video when I saw the quality of the face footage. But you are dead serious lol Don't get me wrong, appreciate the effort, but UA-cam compression is the least of your problems.
I'm late, but can you help me? When uploading 1440+ UA-cam is changing color scheme. It keeps original color aspect in 1080 and below. Why is that? Can I bypass changing color scheme? Red color becoming way more orange. Been struggling with this for ages
That's interesting. I know youtube does re-encode videos that are 1440p and higher, so something may be happening there. What'd I'd recommend doing upon exporting your videos from Davinci Resolve is going to the render settings under advanced settings and set the color space tag to Rec.709, and the Gamma tag to Gamma 2.4. I work with a windows system and do this for all of my videos and have not noticed any issues doing it that way.
I'm really sorry, but have one more question. Is it possible to do that in Handbrake? I'm mostly working with just upscaling old videoclips. While going 1440p youtube is applying VP9 codec, which chaning color scheme. On my computer is always looking right, but once I upload on UA-cam something 1440p+ the VP9 changes it's color scheme. I can't see the option with bt709A, but 601 on HB. But in the end UA-cam is forcing to 709 anyway, so RED color becoming ORANGE and GREEN to BLUE. Can I do upscale in Davinci Resolve too without losing quality, what HB provide with simple upscale? It seems to be DR placing some tags, not sure... Ah, so many words... Just stuggling with this for quiet a lot of time. I'll see, what I can do, I guess
Has anybody ever said to you… Get to the point? And I don’t wanna go digging through your archive, just give us the Settings. Your favorite ones. Good enough.
You are one of those hidden gems on UA-cam...you must be recommended to everyone! Awesome job bro. Thank you so much.
Thank you very much! Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video. 😁
@@RoccoGermani I did...and I´ll se more 👊😁
Thank you for including instructions for both free and paid. This was exactly what I was looking for.
Happy to help!
I tried changing the resolution to 2048 x 1152 and it worked, but I guess this would also work. Thanks.
Thanks! Compression about shadows makes sense. Will be trying this out.
I had no clue about any of this! Adding grain is a really creative solution I personally never would have thought of haha
Yeah its overlooked by a lot of people, since to many grain is seen as an unwanted part of video footage, but in reality it's a secret weapon for avoiding compression and creating a filmic look at the same time!
Very helpful, many thanks! Loving your red curtain backdrop in place of the sober tech look most presenters go for, reminds me of Twin Peaks! ♥
The video is way too long. 2-3 minutes would have been enough. And the picture quality is so muddy that you don't even want to look at the content. Nevertheless, thanks for the tip.
awesome, thanks. I find the smaller channels like this so much more informative and easy to watch than the ones pushing a million subs.
Thank you!
i think the best and simple solution to force UA-cam to use better codec, is upscale the resolution of video
Yep, that's absolutely true. I always upload in at least 4K!
@@RoccoGermani Even if my project was filmed in 1080p, do you guys think I should upscale to 4k?
@@tiagodacunha_ 100%. Just render it in 4K.
My brother's name is Rocco. Thanks for the help!
Nice! Thanks for watching!
that's absurd, adding grain makes the h264 work even more as it's moving particles everywhere. The trick is to not film trees, forests, moving lakes or waters, fast moving objects in far sides of screen, confetti, rain, snow, unless all these are shot in super slowmotion. I tend to add little blur to background by masking the subject in every shot if there are lots of trees behind. the main enemy is forests and trees avoid them and you'll be fine.
Goated content.
Thanks for sharing
You have pretty messed up the container vs codec issue - MOV, MP4, cDNG are containers, AVC, HEVC, JPEG are the codecs. And UA-cam utilizes mostly its own VP9 and will reencode to AV1 when views hit milions. The AVC version is made just for quick trash / recent uploads and unviewed videos, usually on a fast profile so its the reason why its so blocky. The way out would be to allow creators to pay for an extra re-encoding effort (or certified encoders, that run at uploader's end). Btw you can re-download the files, and compare their sizes if you havent deleted them, I bet the +grain will have increased average bitrates.
My bad, I mix up containers and codecs a lot. But H.264/5, prores and DNxHR are codecs, right? Thanks for the info! I'll have ot go back and check.
@@RoccoGermani yes, here you are correct now. Those four are codecs. But every codec is just sort of a "language", and its up to the specific encoder and its setting, to what extent it uses its possibilities. Its more visible in the avc/hevc things that have a very wide variety of settings and possibilities, while in prores/dnxhd its more controlled, eg. by force-fitting into their CBR target.
Thank You! I might try this. I just uploaded a video that was my first using DaVinci Resolve (free) I was disappointed in how UA-cam made it look. I had a mix of 1080p and 4K footage (From Iphone) that I rendered out as QuickTime 1080 HD. I noticed that the 4K shots looked somewhat better. (My time-laps footage looked terrible!) I'm subscribing because you put so much time and effort in making your tutorial.
Glad I was able to help! And exporting in 4K can definitely make a huge difference, even if you didn't film in 4K, I did it for years back when my cameras were all 1080p and it worked great, and still works great to this day. One setting I've been using a lot lately for exports that I've found gives clean results is using mp4 H.265 for the render, with Constant QP instead of constant/variable bitrate. Worth checking out if you're still experiementing with methods to avoid compression. Thank you for watching and subscribing!
@@RoccoGermani Thanks! Yes, I’m going to do a few tests, I really need some improvement before I make any more videos.
I did not know this, I learned a lot in this video! Very valuable 👍
Glad I could help with it! Thanks for watching Wesley!
Nice share Rocco. The only thing missing in this video is showing the before and after... without having to dig thru your archive. Also.. did I miss your favorite or recommended setting? Thanks.
Great idea. I will give it a shot. I've had youtube play havoc on a few random videos. Mostly ones with lots of dark areas.
Thanks! Yeah those dark areas are where the compression loves to pounce on.
"Do whatever you want. Export in 8K.. why not." I laughed out loud at that one man! Great video thank you for the tips! I've been battling some pretty heavy compression with my latest project and this helped a lot! Thanks fam. Also all the shade that's being thrown in this comment section is super undeserving and unwarranted, but everyone is a critic I suppose.
Thank you! People will always find reasons to complain lol
I hate the way it looks when you (i) shoot great looking vid over water or trees and then the youtube compression kicks in 😵 Great vid RG 👍
Yeah it can totally ruin a video, trees get hit especially hard for some reason. Thanks for watching!
I like grain. But (there is always a big but): compression is there for reducing effort in storage and transmitting which costs energy/money. Grain adds chaos. And chaos is hardly compressable. Thats why the algorithm struggles (try to compress eg. pure white noise - it is not possible because it is unpredictable). I like grain. But for the sake of saving energy I try to use it wisely. Have a good day and thank you very much!
Amazing tutorial, very helpful.
Thank you! Glad I could help 😁
Wow, you made a Playlist? That's a step above.
It's no longer Mp4. Google developed their own codec which is now used to encode all YT vids.
Yes, I believe I've heard of it. VP9 is the name if I'm recalling correctly.
@@RoccoGermani it is called 'webm'
@@nfrancisj2122 oh interesting, I had not heard about that. Just VP9. Thanks for sharing!
TL;DW: Garbage in, garbage out.
MP4 is not a format, it's a container. MP4 on its own cannot (within reason) "look good or bad". That's like blaming on the bucket when the water inside is muddy.
Subbed ,thanks for the info
No... but then I've never experienced really badly focused video either.
would have been much better if you dont overuse blackpromist filter and like 80% of the runtime with your face on it. Just capture how you do it in the software, and speal your way through ---> would have been better
Ok
If you think UA-cam is bad Facebook maximum is 720p. Thanks for the tip will try it.
Yeah that is true, youtube is better than most for sure!
FB defaults to a 720 view but can be raised to 1440 in the videos I've cared to see in a higher res.
@@underthedrone2735 it seems to be some users only. There is no setting I can find on my page or business page to increase to HD. It appears to be random allowance??
@@browncatt1 : I don't upload to FB because I know their compression ruins the video so I use UA-cam which isn't perfect but is better than FB. I'm assuming the video has to be in a higher resolution to begin with when uploading it in order to give the option of viewing it in a higher res but I don't know for sure. YT vids can easily be shared too which is a big plus over private group pages on FB.
cool tutorial but something about how you've lit your facecam is just sooooooo discomforting but thats probably just me. lookin real ominous in the shadows.
I was hoping for a way to completely bypass re-compression by uploading with the same settings that UA-cam uses. Good tip with the grain to trick the encoder though!
On another note - and this is really awkward - I know it's 24 fps or GTFO in movie enthusiast circles, but the jittery playback of 24 fps YT on a 60 Hz playback device irritates me. 😋
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Amen!
I just checked. The Film Grain feature is not available in the free version. Another reason to get the full version soon.
Oh, really? Even in fusion?
@@RoccoGermani I didn't check Fusion before but I just did and it did add it. However the settings are very different than the ones you showed with the preset so you might want to make a video showing how to do this in Fusion.
Is the effect titled film grain or is it just grain? I think there are two different ones.
How can I apply it to my whole timeline in resolve?
Make a new adjustment layer that goes over the whole timeline and apply the effect there. You can drag and drop an adjustment layer in from the effects panel in the edit tab.
I play Games in true 4k and drop to disk via OBS Studio. I take a .mp4 @ 4k with 60FPS and 80mbbs bitrate that is 9 gigs Via Davinci Resolve fusion, upload it to UA-cam for 2 hours and it gets compressed to 523 mb. Still says it's 1440p60 but it's not and pixelates on screen. Not sure how this applies to me.
I'm using DaVinci Studio and film grain does remove a lot of banding in H264 and H265. I'm trying to find the best settings for a film project. Do you also apply Halation with grain that is used by many pro colorist for that film look?
I have a bit of a different process for film emulation... I add both grain and halation but not in the same node. My process for halation typically involves using Dehancer, which I've talked about in another video on my channel. Even though I use Dehancer for halation, I still use Davinci's film grain as I prefer it over dehancer. If the only option for you to get halation is with the default halation node inside of Davinci, do that, but don't use the film grain option within that effect. I recommend adding a separate node with the grain effect I used in this video.
Please answer this for me; The video codec issue with uploading videos is making me nuts. The AVC1, by default, apparently, is what many complain about regarding UA-cam videos that they post, including myself. So I see that choppy video from my PC. Now, watching the same video, as I would, but on my Galaxy S23, it looks as it should on there, provided I make sure that I go into : Settings; Advanced, then go down the list to 1080P. That's all I have to do to make it look fine on there. But No matter what I do on the PC, it looks crappy. Is there a different codec or something that UA-cam requires and sets, depending on what you watch a video on? Is it my computer? The computer is about 10 years old, but it's a DELL Inspiron 7559, 64 bit, Intel i7. It should have more than enough power and resources, although seems to struggle with UA-cam videos that are 1080p or higher lately. Didn't used to be. What could be the issue here?
Do you think this algorithm will work for for Facebook and Instagram uploading 720p?
It likely will help a little but, but when the resolution is lowered considerably as well as the bitrate for those websites, you might have to increase the grain strength.
@@RoccoGermani I will try it. Save and get an Evo 2 pro soon. Well worth it. I was lucky to find a new one on ebay with 2 batteries flown only once which was returned to seller. Got it for €1000.
Nice! I am looking to upgrade my drone sometime this year
This video is probably good but I can’t watch past a few seconds with the haze/mist filter you have on or if you don’t you seriously need to clean the lens. I feel that a video about making your videos look better on UA-cam should look really good.
Hi! Thank you for expressing your feedback, I appreciate it. I am using a pro mist filter, which is meant to bloom the highlights. I personally do not like overly sharp images unless I am doing work for a client who requires it, as I prefer a more filmic look. Thank you for watching!
@@RoccoGermani I can understand adding character but IMO that is way to much. But it’s just my opinion.
Exaclty. I honestly thought this was a troll video.
What’s the difference between the paid vs free davinci resolve? Planning on upgrading to finally editing on a computer this year, and I’d definitely start using davinci if I can’t get premiere free through school
Davinci Resolve Studio has access to all of the features and effects as well as GPU acceleration on supported machines. (faster decoding, rendering and effects) You also unlock the ability to work with more video formats (10 bit, 12 bit, and even higher) as well as tons more functionality in the color tab. Worth the $300 in my opinion!
@@RoccoGermani ok cool thanks! That does sound worth it, especially since its not a subscription
Yeah the fact that it isn't a subscription is fantastic. All updates are free too!
What are your favorite settings for Film Grain?
I thought this was a troll video when I saw the quality of the face footage. But you are dead serious lol Don't get me wrong, appreciate the effort, but UA-cam compression is the least of your problems.
It's called a pro mist filter...
I'm late, but can you help me? When uploading 1440+ UA-cam is changing color scheme. It keeps original color aspect in 1080 and below. Why is that? Can I bypass changing color scheme? Red color becoming way more orange. Been struggling with this for ages
Are you on a mac? If so, make sure you export with the Rec.709-A Gamma Tag.
@@RoccoGermani windows
That's interesting. I know youtube does re-encode videos that are 1440p and higher, so something may be happening there. What'd I'd recommend doing upon exporting your videos from Davinci Resolve is going to the render settings under advanced settings and set the color space tag to Rec.709, and the Gamma tag to Gamma 2.4. I work with a windows system and do this for all of my videos and have not noticed any issues doing it that way.
Thank you for the reply! Gonna experiment to see, if I can "Resolve'' it :D Haha...
I'm really sorry, but have one more question. Is it possible to do that in Handbrake? I'm mostly working with just upscaling old videoclips. While going 1440p youtube is applying VP9 codec, which chaning color scheme. On my computer is always looking right, but once I upload on UA-cam something 1440p+ the VP9 changes it's color scheme. I can't see the option with bt709A, but 601 on HB. But in the end UA-cam is forcing to 709 anyway, so RED color becoming ORANGE and GREEN to BLUE. Can I do upscale in Davinci Resolve too without losing quality, what HB provide with simple upscale? It seems to be DR placing some tags, not sure... Ah, so many words... Just stuggling with this for quiet a lot of time. I'll see, what I can do, I guess
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forget this so called trick. does not work,
Has anybody ever said to you… Get to the point? And I don’t wanna go digging through your archive, just give us the Settings. Your favorite ones. Good enough.
I'M SO CONFUSED. This video is about how to make a better looking video, but this video is so unclear it's making me dizzy.
is this a joke???
Are you watching in 4K?
bla bla bla
You should apply this technic to this video because it looks like crap.