Dude, your channel came out of nowhere for me, and I'm calling in now: in a few years, this is going to be one of the biggest moto maintenance channels on UA-cam. Yesterday, I rewired my Evo from scratch, using only your video on wiring as a guide. You've got a knack for explaining things in an easily understandable way. Keep it up man!
Man I can’t tell ya how much I appreciate this message. Really means a lot to hear this. I remember how much it sucked getting into this with no mentor, I hope to be that mentor for those who don’t have one yet. If you ever need a video on a specific topic please feel free to reach out
I could not agree more. I’ve been racking my brain trying to figure out my carb issues. I understand what I have to do now in a matter of minutes. Thank you!!!!!
I've tuned carburetors on different configurations and you got this video down pat. Concise and short enough without losing the critical information. 👍
This guy is definitely gonna make it big here, probably one of the easiest videos to understand that I've ever watched, not that I dont know what I'm doing but sometimes it's super nice to just have an easy guide when I want to keep learning more and more.
I've been running a "super E" since the nineties, parked my scoot over a decade ago when my wife got sick, visited this video because I'm getting my bike ready to run for the first time this year. These are good "seat of the pants" means of checking the carb performance, thanks for the memories!
Thanks man, It was my first time with S&S Super E carb. it couldn't have been easier, thanks to your video, it went from Crap to Cream in a matter of minutes. Thanks again....
I started in the same place. I try to make all my videos geared to what I would have needed at the beginning of my journey so I’m glad to hear they’re coming across clearly 🙏🏼 thank you for the feedback
Thank you for your knowledge I just rebuilt my 89 softail and cleaned s&s carb I adjusted for the first time in 31 years I still have to do the plug check going to do that after work today thank you very much
I'm loving this!!! I've been working on my carb setup for a while and this is gonna get me all the way there. I've been running it rich to be on the safe side
@@greasesgarage no bullshit...just fact.Teaching is all about the method one uses.You have the knack for it.I have a newE here in the box to put on a 1973 XLCH I made from frame up for my daughter.I usually do just panheads for a hobby.Someone gave me half a XLCH motor and my daughter said WOW...just my size.I would like to show that kid my gun collection...lol...been a long haul,almost twoo years butEVERYTHING stock and beautiful bike.NO PLASTIC...thanks again.
Grease, your info is spot on THX. I picked up a FXDWG about 3 weeks ago, it ran like crap. I figured a rebuild,,,. Watched this vid. The bike runs incredible
I've been running "chops" since the seventies, this is a nice "down and dirty" way to get things running just right, a little tweak while on the road dials it right in.
Grease , this instructional set my evo on fire!! I can't thank you enough for this video ! I've been familiar with rich lean and idle but never really waited 15 or 20 seconds between every 1/4 turn . And confirmed my idle jet was good to go which I've been scratching my head . Also my accelerator screw was waaaaay the f out . Started over on that and wow . Thumbs up. Subscribed and dialed In
Grease! Been a long time listener to the show and love you tube content for sharing all the chopper secrets no one lets out. Thank you man! Keep ‘em coming!
Excellent video my friend ,I’ve just bought a xlh 1984 my first Harley ,it comes with the S&S shorty but has that dead spot when opening the throttle; I’ll give this a go for sure ! Thanks for your encouragement and passing on your knowledge 🙏 Definitely will be looking into your other videos
Another video i needed! hellyeah! My bike isnt running without that choke out, opened her up and cleaned the internals but the issue remains... hopfully this help. thanks dude!
If your jets are clean, truly clean and you can see daylight through them, and it won’t run without the choke on…first thing I’d suggest is a larger pilot jet
I don’t get it ??? How you gonna turn your idol speed screw 1/2 “IN” after lightly seated down ? Can go anymore . Something I’m not getting ? Or did you mean to say 1/2 turn out after seated ? Thanks
I share in your confusion. That part was not clear and the wording contradictory. I think what he meant was, if you unseat the idle screw all the way the butterfly valve will close. So by “turning it in” 1/2 turn, the butterfly valve will open slightly letting the engine idle just enough. If you seat the idle screw all the way, the engine will race once you start the bike. I have a S&S Super E on my 2001 Indian Scout with a stock tear drop air filter & stock pipes. I’ve been fiddling with this carb for a while now & learning through trial & error. The verbiage on the instructions, written or spoken, can be confusing when actually performing the factory settings tuning.
@@yayagazab4449 thanks for your message . I took a better look at the carb and then understood better what was mentioned . I’m used to different carbs not realizing that the screw was to adjust the butterfly . First time messing with an S&S … thanks again !
Great Video, running Super E on most of my bikes and does not really have any issues at all but you highlighted and described everything in a very good way so I will for sure " fine tune" all the bikes. Thank you. And YES you might be right, if we were smart people, we wouldn`t ride choppers hahaha but it is what is is
Hahah that’s it brother. We’re here so we just gotta make the best of it lol. My stock modern bike friends will never understand it but there’s motorcycle guys and there’s chopper guys and they’re not the same
Awesome video! Called me out on the “I’m so close” 😂 I’ve got mine (with v stack) on a stock 1988 883 and I pulled it from my stockish 76 1000 without changing anything. I’m convinced (and we know it’s true) that my jets are too big. Smaller ones in the mail and I’ll be going back thru this video to get it right. I’m sick of running out of gas within an hour😂😂
Hahah I had to keep that line in cause I hear it all the time 😂😂 you’re the only one honest enough to admit it but we’ve all said it. Let me know how it goes with the new jets
UPDATE: Got smaller jets in, stock position, had to dial idle way down, it was a run away😂 but ok, running pretty good now, holding idle most of the time but still goes into a weird low idle and stall sometimes? It used to do that bad before, had to keep gas on it at red lights. What causes that?
Also, so I was at 28/66 and went to 25/62. The 25 is working pretty smooth, I may go to the 64 on main, cuz it just feels super slow and yucky, but I wanted to start out light first to try and save some gas. Obviously with a stack, our gas is gonna be shit😂
If you’re getting a sputter or missing at full throttle I would assume you have a lean main jet because I also had a sputter and as you see in this video my main was very lean
Thanks for your help Bro. I'm new to kicking my 93ci shovelhead and your technique is working for me. She's kicked back on me a couple of times and that's not fun. I think full hard kicks on the compression stroke is the answer. I leave the ignition off until the kicker is set-up where I want it.
That’s great man! Definitely safer to leave that key off til you’re ready. If it kicks back a lot, you can consider your timing. Too advanced can cause kickback. But if it’s only in rare cases then I wouldn’t mess up a good thing
Thanks Grease, great video. Just wondering, when checking your Main Jet size you pulled out your spark plugs and said that the colour of the plugs your bike is running too lean, what would be the right colour of the spark plugs when you have the right size Main Jet? Thanks again.
After changing cams to put points on my "modern" 12-sporty, i can't get a good AFR on the stock CV40, i have found a gazilion-hand Super-E, bought a renovation kit, waiting for the jets, but i am glad you done theses video about the E, it help me to know easely where to start, and i am confident it will be a more suited carb for my config. Point ignition and Super-E, it seems to be a bulletproof combo.
It really is such a reliable setup I think you’ll like it a lot more than the CV, I never cared for the CV carb. Let me know how it goes and thank you for the kind words I’m glad the videos are making it clear and easy 🙏🏼
Slightly wet is ok yes. There will always be a little color to them unless they’re super lean and you don’t want to run super lean. No excessive black carbon buildup and not totally white and crusty. Somewhere in that middle range
Glad you’re giving it a shot! Love the super e for any Harley. Thank you, the seat is a custom pan I made and my younger brother did the upholstery work
I just got my first bike, a 93 Softail with a stock 80 inch Evo. It does have a set of pipes and a s&s super E carb. The bike ran fine when I got it but even better with help from this video. Only thing that would've made it better would be if he explained how to read the plugs.
Stoked to hear this! Thank you for commenting. That's a great point about reading the plugs but I think that needs its own video. It's in the works so stay tuned
Incredibly helpful video. When I turn my fuel mix screw in (lean) the idle increases but it never stumbles. I can turn it all the way in to zero and the bike never cuts off. I down jetted all the way to 26.5/66.5 and it does the same. Right now its jetted at 31/74 it seems to have the best performance but I still cant figure out why im having that issue with the fuel mix screw. I have it set at 1 full turn out. Engine is a harley evo with 10:1 compression mild cam stock heads and exhaust
I would use the point between where it increases the idle and where it bogs down when richening the mix. Interesting it doesn’t die when totally turned in though
@@greasesgarage thanks man I have a shovel with an s&s whis is the worst kickstart ever, I will try to dial it in with your help an hopefully get good results. I rode my panhead for a while now and I really like linkerts, bc how easy they are to start, hope I will get similar results with the s&s once its set up
With the cv you want to make it run lean on the top band of rpm and lean at the bottom and richer in the middle . Big mistake to up your main jet in a cv
I liked your video on the S&S. I just put a brand new carb on a 79 FXR. Started as you and the instructions suggested. But I can't get it right. One of the problems is the mixture adjustment. When I turn it in, the engine stumbles a bit. But when I screwed it out, the idle kept getting faster and faster. It sounds bad. I typically like a slower idle. Any suggestions?
Yes, pay close attention to that segment in the video because it’s two different things you’re adjusting. Set your mix screw first. Halfway between where it stumbles and where it spikes the revs. Once the mix is set, THEN you can adjust your idle screw to whatever idle you like. But the mix screw itself is NOT an idle adjustment. Hope this helps
I reset my carb and when i started it was like i had it enriched. I had to turn the idle screw out luke 3 times to get it off 2k rpm. Im just assuming i had it far too tight to start. I have a tach so i could get it to the rpm before i rode it.
Great beginners tutorial for sure. I'm not being rude, but I'll add a bit to this though. This is all assuming that your intake boots are sealed, ignition timing is correct and valves adjusted properly. If you are running drag pipes the a/f mix and jets are going to be slightly different than if you're running a crossover tube or two into one pipe. The a/f mix can be checked with a vacuum gauge and/or a can of carburetor cleaner too. One more thing. If your timing plug is out or have a see through plug, you can get real close to the proper idle speed if you can blink your eyes and count the blinks in a minutes time as well! Btw, you're hand jammer and suicide clutch is too cool. It's what separates the men from the boys!
All great points. Definitely have to make a few assumptions to find a starting place for the video but those issues will throw a wrench into what the viewer is seeing here so hopefully people check out these comments. Always more info to share so I appreciate the reply 🙏🏼
Great video Grease!! You helped me rebuild & tune the S&S on the 90 Evo I just bought! I too did the 3rd gear 50-70 roll on and thought it was pulling pretty good, then did the 5 sec full throttle in 3rd gear, super lean plugs as well ha. I am curious, what gear is the 5 sec full throttle main jet test done in? Also, what size main jet did you end up with? I too have a 72 w/ open drag pipes but a stock S&S air cleaner. Was going to start with a 74 main. Thanks again! Great diy content!!
Thanks brotha! So on mine the 72 main and 29.5 pilot works great with my long but open pipes and teardrop S&S cleaner. For this velocity stack I need the 74. If you’re looking lean on the main jet pull I would throw the 74 in and run the test again. That should take out any lean condition. Test could be done in 3rd or 4th but I did mine in 4th
I have 1330 S&S been off the road in storage for 2 years before that it kept fouling plugs, any idea what it maybe? Also started happening after i got my carby changed Thanks
I must admit, the idle on my Shovel is quite a bit lower, the oil pressure is still very good at 'potato, potato, potato' rpm. I do need to up jet a little though. I run a bellmouth and I've noticed a bit of lag, but I have had a bit of trouble with the accelerator pump being a bit intermitant, I have since cured that problem, the rubber gaiter was gripping the operating rod and it wasn't dropping back down.
Great question. On mine the S&S manifold which holds the super E has a hose barb facing up right in the middle of the manifold. Connect your voes hose to that 👍🏼
I work on a lot of guys Harley's I hate the S&S carburetors once they need rebuilt it is hard to get it right again. I have Linkard Bendix and CV40 carburetors on my bikes they all run great.
Look behind the screw at the tab it presses on. Turn it in until it just begins to make contact with the tab. Then go 1/2 a turn more. It’s not a super fine science with that one though so don’t stress it, anywhere in that region will get you going and if your bike sounds like it’s at wide open throttle just back that screw off
@@greasesgarage i think its over 80” has a ton of compression. Ran the same jets you are & it ran like shit haha Running a 72 main & a 28 intermediate now
I am yes, awesome kit. I have to put the tear drop back on to test a theory I had so depending on how that goes I’ll either keep the stack or the teardrop
Hey I got a question. I got a super e on my shovel, when i have the enrichment on, it doesn’t increase my idle, instead it sounds like a vacuum leak, you can hear a sucking sound. Is this normal? The bike seems to start fine, but I live in hot weather
@@greasesgarage sometimes I have a bit of a flat spot on the lower end but wide open is fine can you bump up or down on the one intermediate jet or do you have to do em both.
The intermediate controls between idle and about half throttle. The main is the opposite. You can switch just one, and should switch just one, depending on which areas need the tweaking
@@greasesgarage thank you so much for taking the time to let me pick your brain, last thing. When reading plugs once they burn one way like lean can they burn another way? Rich to lean lean to rich or do I have to replace em each time to check how they burn
The most common cause for that is an air leak. It idles high because it’s still drawing as you come to a stop but once you’re stopped the draw slows and it eventually settles back down
I was told by some old heads S&S super B is for 80ci and lower S&S super E 88ci to I believe 96ci and S&S super G is what I have is for big CI motors. I have a 131 CI merch performance with a S&S super G
1998 big twin . But this is an aftermarket carb so it would come new in a box with the jets that correspond to these factory settings unless I'm missing something
Grease! Man, you are my go-to bike/chopper guru now. I built a chopper from the ground up and your videos were invaluable, especially with the wiring. I have a carb question. My donor motor is a 250cc Chinese Honda clone that came off a cheap dual sport and the carb is pretty bare bones; the only adjustment screw is the idle. I put a pod air filter and straight pipe on it. It runs perfectly with even power all through the throttle range, and there's no popping or backfiring when I let off the gas. Can I take this as an indication that the mixture is good enough that I don't need to re-jet the carb? I don't want to ruin the engine by running too lean, but it seems to be fine as is.
I would take it as a good indicator absolutely. If you were lean you’d experience some poor performance and popping out of the carb. If you wanted to be extra sure, run it wide open for a stretch, 5-6 seconds at top gear full throttle, and kill the motor and coast to a stop. Pull the plug and check it for color. It should be a golden brown. Basically anything besides clean white or cooked. That will be your truest test but again, not hearing popping or poor performance is quite a positive sign already
Dude awesome this video helps me a lot. Do you have one on making your bike start up easily with kick only? I find my starting sequence is a lot more difficult when the engine is warm. Fires up on a dime when it’s cold
Sounds like I have another video to make haha, that’s a great question and I used to have that problem too. Used to give me problems after I’d fill up at the pump. What ignition and bike you running?
@@greasesgarage so I watched your video about what to do when your motorcycle won’t start and between this video and that video I have a much better understanding and I’m sure if I get everything dialed in on the carb and everything is good with the battery etc I should be having an easier time. My starting sequence is good when cold only takes 2 kicks most of the time but when it’s warm I have a different sequence and sometimes that works but sometimes I gotta walk away for about a half hour lol I have the s&s HI-4N electric ignition. Thanks for any help
@@caseycarey5445one thing I can say for sure has helped me (and you may already be doing this) is to never use the choke to start the bike once it’s already warm. It’ll flood immediately. Another thing I do is with the ignition OFF I will find the correct stroke first, then key on, then kick and it almost always kicks over on the first kick this way.
@@greasesgarage good to know that thanks I’m definitely gonna try. I know in the s&s manual for hot start it says to choke it and then give two quick quarter turns of throttle. I’ve found it works sometimes but if it doesn’t happen to fire then it floods. I forgot to mention I have the thunderjet kit installed too but as far as I know it shouldn’t affect starting. It just gives it a third fuel circuit.
These are direct from S&S, so I can assure you they work. How about some more context? What motor, what jets do you have? We can’t help you without info
Followed your instructions but i was also confused with the idle instructions?🤔 Can't turn in after seated so i left it at that. Started bike and idled so fast I'm glad it didn't blow motor but after i turned it back out to where it idled low turn it back up to where i thought idle was good bike is running the best it ever did. Delete that video and redo a new one explaining idle adjustment before someone blows a motor.
If you watched the video, you’ll see seated means it just touches the screw to the metal tab. I show it visually in the video. I’ve never had someone interpret it the way you did
Well for a first timer like me I still don't know what tab you're talking about. You say when it seats half turn in🤔 and did watch video several times to figure out what you were talking about
I've had a few CV carbs never a problem. easy to put jets in , and tune. never broke down or messed up. I got this S&S super garbage "E" carburetor on a 94 wide glide and what a piece of crap. Impossible to tune. bike won't run I've checked everything else I'm done. I'm pulling this piece of garbage off. And I'm not even going to sell it to anyone else. I'm going to destroy it.
Just a stock 80 inch EVO , 94 dyna wide glide. It was a friends bike but it would foul plugs, then he died and I inherited the bike.it didn't run though. So I dropped the Boal and it had a 76 main and a 29.5 pilot. The mixture screw was at 2 turns out and the accelerator pump screw was at one turn the plugs were fouled but it would only start with the choke on and run that way till you foul the plugs. It's getting gas, I went back to the factory settings and new plugs, and it won't run at all. Unless I use starting fluid then it dies. I've changed to 66 a main and 68, and a70 main and went down to a 28 pilot . But it just doesn't run till i spray starting fluid. I don't really want to give up on it cause it's American but I'm thinking I have to either take it off and completely rebuild it and start over, or try a CV that I have laying around that's a new take off. And see if that is the problem, or maybe it's something else. I'm, just old and tired off working on stuff after I get out of work as everyone rides by my house enjoying life before the world goes to crap...yes I am whining. 😢
@jimgagne3801 if it’s any help, I run a 72 main 29.5 pilot on that same size motor. I could possibly go down to a 28 pilot though. All my settings are here in this video. If that doesn’t get you running, I would be willing to bet that there’s a problem outside of the carb or with an air leak at the manifold
@@greasesgarage that maybe true. But I’m team ppl. So healthy communication should be the only info in a perfect world. Your tuning knowledge is not up to par. Step it up an become better or be on team evil and push trash
@@acurarl9929 if you were team ppl as you say, you’d make a better guide. If you’re here to build up, get to building. Do the work. The community needs you. If not, you’re just tearing down 🤷♂️
@@greasesgarage for sure they absolutely do. And sometimes I need them that’s why it’s a shame to see information that isn’t just coach talk it’s information that’s going to cause ppl the loss of physical time in life leading them the wrong way.
@@greasesgarage I have a shovel with a shorty I can't adjust my recovery pump the jets are 72 for the main and 29.5 for the pilot what do you recommend in terms of number of turns?
I'm running a S&S knock off from amazon and surprisingly enough it works very well and cost me a meager $52 new and $28 for the manifold. Hard to choke down $450 without at least giving the amazon a shot
Dude, your channel came out of nowhere for me, and I'm calling in now: in a few years, this is going to be one of the biggest moto maintenance channels on UA-cam. Yesterday, I rewired my Evo from scratch, using only your video on wiring as a guide. You've got a knack for explaining things in an easily understandable way. Keep it up man!
Man I can’t tell ya how much I appreciate this message. Really means a lot to hear this. I remember how much it sucked getting into this with no mentor, I hope to be that mentor for those who don’t have one yet.
If you ever need a video on a specific topic please feel free to reach out
I could not agree more. I’ve been racking my brain trying to figure out my carb issues. I understand what I have to do now in a matter of minutes. Thank you!!!!!
I appreciate you letting me know brotha, glad it helped!
Dude, for real, Grease nails his vids! Got a fresh top end and went with the super E and of course, here’s exactly what I need. 😎
I've tuned carburetors on different configurations and you got this video down pat. Concise and short enough without losing the critical information. 👍
This means a lot man. I spent a lot of time debating what to include and what to exclude so to get this comment makes it all worth it 🙏🏼
Learning my lesson on the don't tune the bike cold currently , came back to the video and laughed at myself. 😅Thanks grease
It happens to all of us! 🤘🏼
This guy is definitely gonna make it big here, probably one of the easiest videos to understand that I've ever watched, not that I dont know what I'm doing but sometimes it's super nice to just have an easy guide when I want to keep learning more and more.
Thank you for the kind words I appreciate it 🙏🏼
I've been running a "super E" since the nineties, parked my scoot over a decade ago when my wife got sick, visited this video because I'm getting my bike ready to run for the first time this year. These are good "seat of the pants" means of checking the carb performance, thanks for the memories!
The only means available to most of us haha, myself included. Thanks for watching and have fun out there 🤘🏼
Thanks man, It was my first time with S&S Super E carb. it couldn't have been easier, thanks to your video, it went from Crap to Cream in a matter of minutes. Thanks again....
Really appreciate this comment man, thank you for letting me know it helped 🙏🏼
Good video, Brother. Concise and right on the money. Really enjoy your videos
Thanks Mark!
Love stopping by the garage have a blessed week my friend.
Thank you for taking your time explaining this step by step as though I was an idiot, because I often am. Your video is top tier.
I started in the same place. I try to make all my videos geared to what I would have needed at the beginning of my journey so I’m glad to hear they’re coming across clearly 🙏🏼 thank you for the feedback
Thank you for your knowledge I just rebuilt my 89 softail and cleaned s&s carb I adjusted for the first time in 31 years I still have to do the plug check going to do that after work today thank you very much
Happy to hear it’s helping!
"If we were smart people. We wouldn't be riding choppers" 😂
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If the dog hadn't stopped to piss he would have caught the rabbit.Dog is sitting beside me and rabbit is out there running ....IF lol
I'm loving this!!! I've been working on my carb setup for a while and this is gonna get me all the way there. I've been running it rich to be on the safe side
Glad to help!
This video, saved me the struggle, thanks big homey. I’m currently chopping a 91 FXSTC. So your bike has a huge amount of the same parts and issues.
That’s great to hear brotha! Love to see the evo chops, such a great platform 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Man your channel just showed to me, and you kinda just saved me. Ihaaa bike is running just fine now !!!!
That’s fantastic brotha I’m happy to hear this 🙏🏼
Absolutely great video. Where were you a year ago when I was trying to follow S&S's instructions and ended up just guessing?
Many thanks Grease.
Haha you and me both. The world needs guides for the common man and that’s what this channel is all about
Lol
without a doubt the best video on this EVER
I really appreciate that man! A guide for the common man 🤘🏼
@@greasesgarage no bullshit...just fact.Teaching is all about the method one uses.You have the knack for it.I have a newE here in the box to put on a 1973 XLCH I made from frame up for my daughter.I usually do just panheads for a hobby.Someone gave me half a XLCH motor and my daughter said WOW...just my size.I would like to show that kid my gun collection...lol...been a long haul,almost twoo years butEVERYTHING stock and beautiful bike.NO PLASTIC...thanks again.
Grease, your info is spot on THX. I picked up a FXDWG about 3 weeks ago, it ran like crap. I figured a rebuild,,,. Watched this vid. The bike runs incredible
I've been running "chops" since the seventies, this is a nice "down and dirty" way to get things running just right, a little tweak while on the road dials it right in.
@user-iy6de7qi1r amen to that. For us average joes without dyno access it’s all we need to enjoy our bikes
Brother- thank you. Simple instructions- spot on. My 2001 Dyna finally idles and accelerates appropriately.
Glad to hear it 🙏🏼🤘🏼
Grease , this instructional set my evo on fire!! I can't thank you enough for this video ! I've been familiar with rich lean and idle but never really waited 15 or 20 seconds between every 1/4 turn . And confirmed my idle jet was good to go which I've been scratching my head . Also my accelerator screw was waaaaay the f out . Started over on that and wow . Thumbs up. Subscribed and dialed In
Fantastic! Stoked to hear this man glad you’re up and running proper now 💪🏼🤘🏼
One of the best video's I have ever watched ... Thank you!
Thank you 🙏🏼 I really appreciate that
Grease!
Been a long time listener to the show and love you tube content for sharing all the chopper secrets no one lets out.
Thank you man! Keep ‘em coming!
I remember ya brother! Hope all is well man and thanks for checking out the channel 🙏🏼 if you are in need of a specific video let me know 🤘🏼
Nice clip with good content, dude. Keep them coming!
yeah...no bullshit,not trying to show we are idiots and he is the pro.EXCELLENT teacher
Excellent video my friend ,I’ve just bought a xlh 1984 my first Harley ,it comes with the S&S shorty but has that dead spot when opening the throttle; I’ll give this a go for sure !
Thanks for your encouragement and passing on your knowledge 🙏
Definitely will be looking into your other videos
Let me know if you get it 👍🏼
Another video i needed! hellyeah! My bike isnt running without that choke out, opened her up and cleaned the internals but the issue remains... hopfully this help. thanks dude!
If your jets are clean, truly clean and you can see daylight through them, and it won’t run without the choke on…first thing I’d suggest is a larger pilot jet
@@greasesgarage Thanks! I'v actually had the complete set of jets in my lowbrow shopping cart for a month now 😅gonna give it a shot.
@@Harsh_Trip you and me both, I don’t even have the 74 jet I need to put in yet haha
@@greasesgarage haha it’s too bad they don’t let you buy them individually or within a smaller range. Oh well!
Well done Grease! BTW, my S&S runs a raindrop air clean cuz there ain't no cryin on my ride. 😎
Hahaha I gotta borrow that saying, I like that
I don’t get it ??? How you gonna turn your idol speed screw 1/2 “IN” after lightly seated down ? Can go anymore .
Something I’m not getting ? Or did you mean to say 1/2 turn out after seated ?
Thanks
Just give it a shot you’ll see
I share in your confusion. That part was not clear and the wording contradictory. I think what he meant was, if you unseat the idle screw all the way the butterfly valve will close. So by “turning it in” 1/2 turn, the butterfly valve will open slightly letting the engine idle just enough. If you seat the idle screw all the way, the engine will race once you start the bike. I have a S&S Super E on my 2001 Indian Scout with a stock tear drop air filter & stock pipes. I’ve been fiddling with this carb for a while now & learning through trial & error. The verbiage on the instructions, written or spoken, can be confusing when actually performing the factory settings tuning.
@@yayagazab4449 thanks for your message . I took a better look at the carb and then understood better what was mentioned .
I’m used to different carbs not realizing that the screw was to adjust the butterfly .
First time messing with an S&S … thanks again !
@@yayagazab4449 this is correct. You make contact with the plate that opens the butteryfly and once you touch it, go another 1/2 turn
Great Video, running Super E on most of my bikes and does not really have any issues at all but you highlighted and described everything in a very good way so I will for sure " fine tune" all the bikes. Thank you. And YES you might be right, if we were smart people, we wouldn`t ride choppers hahaha but it is what is is
Hahah that’s it brother. We’re here so we just gotta make the best of it lol. My stock modern bike friends will never understand it but there’s motorcycle guys and there’s chopper guys and they’re not the same
Awesome video! Called me out on the “I’m so close” 😂 I’ve got mine (with v stack) on a stock 1988 883 and I pulled it from my stockish 76 1000 without changing anything. I’m convinced (and we know it’s true) that my jets are too big. Smaller ones in the mail and I’ll be going back thru this video to get it right. I’m sick of running out of gas within an hour😂😂
Hahah I had to keep that line in cause I hear it all the time 😂😂 you’re the only one honest enough to admit it but we’ve all said it. Let me know how it goes with the new jets
UPDATE: Got smaller jets in, stock position, had to dial idle way down, it was a run away😂 but ok, running pretty good now, holding idle most of the time but still goes into a weird low idle and stall sometimes? It used to do that bad before, had to keep gas on it at red lights. What causes that?
Also, so I was at 28/66 and went to 25/62. The 25 is working pretty smooth, I may go to the 64 on main, cuz it just feels super slow and yucky, but I wanted to start out light first to try and save some gas. Obviously with a stack, our gas is gonna be shit😂
Last update: I gave up. I’m done with this piece of shit. Going back to an uncool CV and ugly ass air cleaner. Fuck this. Might trade it for a Honda.
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Love the s&s superE series
Great carbs for sure
@@greasesgarage I’m running a 70 main and my plugs look pretty much like yours you think a 72 would be good?
@@travislohneis224I think a 72 would help but depending on your setup you might need even bigger than that
@@greasesgarage it’s a 1200 custom s&s carb obviously …drag pipes that’s about it
@@travislohneis224 hmm, for a 1200 that might be a little big but it’s possible if you have a very free flowing air cleaner
Loved the video - I’ll use tomorrow
Glad to hear it Mark 🤘🏼
Really great video.
Thanks for this channel and your videos!
Awesome!
Thanks!
Thank you Cliff! I really appreciate the support brotha 🙏🏼 you’re the first person to do this for my channel and it means a lot man
Thanks!
Thank you Harry! I really appreciate your support of the channel 🙏🏼🙏🏼
What about sputtering when at full throttle?? Where should I start looking
If you’re getting a sputter or missing at full throttle I would assume you have a lean main jet because I also had a sputter and as you see in this video my main was very lean
Great job brother, hopefully this shade tree mechanic can get his bike running the way it should.
You can do it man 🤘🏼
Great video for a noob like me, just got my dads 93 sporty chopper with an S&S super E and need to make some adjustments!
Thanks for your help Bro. I'm new to kicking my 93ci shovelhead and your technique is working for me. She's kicked back on me a couple of times and that's not fun. I think full hard kicks on the compression stroke is the answer. I leave the ignition off until the kicker is set-up where I want it.
That’s great man! Definitely safer to leave that key off til you’re ready. If it kicks back a lot, you can consider your timing. Too advanced can cause kickback. But if it’s only in rare cases then I wouldn’t mess up a good thing
@@greasesgarage Thanks again.
Good job with the explanations. Really helpful.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks Grease, great video. Just wondering, when checking your Main Jet size you pulled out your spark plugs and said that the colour of the plugs your bike is running too lean, what would be the right colour of the spark plugs when you have the right size Main Jet? Thanks again.
After changing cams to put points on my "modern" 12-sporty, i can't get a good AFR on the stock CV40, i have found a gazilion-hand Super-E, bought a renovation kit, waiting for the jets, but i am glad you done theses video about the E, it help me to know easely where to start, and i am confident it will be a more suited carb for my config.
Point ignition and Super-E, it seems to be a bulletproof combo.
It really is such a reliable setup I think you’ll like it a lot more than the CV, I never cared for the CV carb.
Let me know how it goes and thank you for the kind words I’m glad the videos are making it clear and easy 🙏🏼
So what should the plugs look like when using the kill engine method? Slightly wet?
Slightly wet is ok yes. There will always be a little color to them unless they’re super lean and you don’t want to run super lean. No excessive black carbon buildup and not totally white and crusty. Somewhere in that middle range
Awesome video, you got a badass seat on that bike! The super e is going to push my Ironhead sportster, well see how she does
Glad you’re giving it a shot! Love the super e for any Harley. Thank you, the seat is a custom pan I made and my younger brother did the upholstery work
I just got my first bike, a 93 Softail with a stock 80 inch Evo. It does have a set of pipes and a s&s super E carb. The bike ran fine when I got it but even better with help from this video. Only thing that would've made it better would be if he explained how to read the plugs.
Stoked to hear this! Thank you for commenting. That's a great point about reading the plugs but I think that needs its own video. It's in the works so stay tuned
Incredibly helpful video.
When I turn my fuel mix screw in (lean) the idle increases but it never stumbles. I can turn it all the way in to zero and the bike never cuts off. I down jetted all the way to 26.5/66.5 and it does the same. Right now its jetted at 31/74 it seems to have the best performance but I still cant figure out why im having that issue with the fuel mix screw. I have it set at 1 full turn out. Engine is a harley evo with 10:1 compression mild cam stock heads and exhaust
I would use the point between where it increases the idle and where it bogs down when richening the mix. Interesting it doesn’t die when totally turned in though
Thanks for your response. Keep up the great work
can you do a kickstart guide aswell, I don't seem to get what it wants me to do when its cold
You got it!
How To Kickstart a Harley Davidson Motorcycle
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@@greasesgarage thanks man I have a shovel with an s&s whis is the worst kickstart ever, I will try to dial it in with your help an hopefully get good results. I rode my panhead for a while now and I really like linkerts, bc how easy they are to start, hope I will get similar results with the s&s once its set up
Next, we need a basic CV carb rebuild and tune video 😉😉
Hahah, this channel is gonna force me to eventually talk about CV carbs
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I've had great success with following this set up.
With the cv you want to make it run lean on the top band of rpm and lean at the bottom and richer in the middle . Big mistake to up your main jet in a cv
Brilliant video. Thank you.
I liked your video on the S&S. I just put a brand new carb on a 79 FXR. Started as you and the instructions suggested. But I can't get it right. One of the problems is the mixture adjustment. When I turn it in, the engine stumbles a bit. But when I screwed it out, the idle kept getting faster and faster. It sounds bad. I typically like a slower idle. Any suggestions?
Yes, pay close attention to that segment in the video because it’s two different things you’re adjusting.
Set your mix screw first. Halfway between where it stumbles and where it spikes the revs.
Once the mix is set, THEN you can adjust your idle screw to whatever idle you like. But the mix screw itself is NOT an idle adjustment.
Hope this helps
Finally, thank you so much
I reset my carb and when i started it was like i had it enriched. I had to turn the idle screw out luke 3 times to get it off 2k rpm. Im just assuming i had it far too tight to start. I have a tach so i could get it to the rpm before i rode it.
Were you able to get it running well and idling properly
OUTSTANDING a natural teacher "cffc" ; ) if ya know u know...
@@joeblow-h6h thank you! 🙏🏼
Fantastic video, very helpful, thanks man
Glad you liked it!
Great beginners tutorial for sure. I'm not being rude, but I'll add a bit to this though.
This is all assuming that your intake boots are sealed, ignition timing is correct and valves adjusted properly.
If you are running drag pipes the a/f mix and jets are going to be slightly different than if you're running a crossover tube or two into one pipe.
The a/f mix can be checked with a vacuum gauge and/or a can of carburetor cleaner too.
One more thing. If your timing plug is out or have a see through plug, you can get real close to the proper idle speed if you can blink your eyes and count the blinks in a minutes time as well!
Btw, you're hand jammer and suicide clutch is too cool. It's what separates the men from the boys!
All great points. Definitely have to make a few assumptions to find a starting place for the video but those issues will throw a wrench into what the viewer is seeing here so hopefully people check out these comments. Always more info to share so I appreciate the reply 🙏🏼
Great video Grease!! You helped me rebuild & tune the S&S on the 90 Evo I just bought! I too did the 3rd gear 50-70 roll on and thought it was pulling pretty good, then did the 5 sec full throttle in 3rd gear, super lean plugs as well ha. I am curious, what gear is the 5 sec full throttle main jet test done in? Also, what size main jet did you end up with? I too have a 72 w/ open drag pipes but a stock S&S air cleaner. Was going to start with a 74 main. Thanks again! Great diy content!!
Thanks brotha!
So on mine the 72 main and 29.5 pilot works great with my long but open pipes and teardrop S&S cleaner. For this velocity stack I need the 74.
If you’re looking lean on the main jet pull I would throw the 74 in and run the test again. That should take out any lean condition. Test could be done in 3rd or 4th but I did mine in 4th
@@greasesgarage Dude you're awesome!! Thanks for the info & help!
I have 1330 S&S been off the road in storage for 2 years before that it kept fouling plugs, any idea what it maybe? Also started happening after i got my carby changed
Thanks
Most likely too large of a jet, what sizes are you running
I must admit, the idle on my Shovel is quite a bit lower, the oil pressure is still very good at 'potato, potato, potato' rpm. I do need to up jet a little though. I run a bellmouth and I've noticed a bit of lag, but I have had a bit of trouble with the accelerator pump being a bit intermitant, I have since cured that problem, the rubber gaiter was gripping the operating rod and it wasn't dropping back down.
Why is your throttle cable elbow loose to ur throttle assy?
Probably the wrong cable
I have a 85 Harley Electra Glide 1340cc that has a voes vacuum hose, "where do u connect to the super e carburator ".
Great question. On mine the S&S manifold which holds the super E has a hose barb facing up right in the middle of the manifold. Connect your voes hose to that 👍🏼
I work on a lot of guys Harley's I hate the S&S carburetors once they need rebuilt it is hard to get it right again. I have Linkard Bendix and CV40 carburetors on my bikes they all run great.
Great video and very helpful
Thank you 🙏🏼
How do i know im starting in the right place when screwing 1/2 turn in
Look behind the screw at the tab it presses on. Turn it in until it just begins to make contact with the tab. Then go 1/2 a turn more. It’s not a super fine science with that one though so don’t stress it, anywhere in that region will get you going and if your bike sounds like it’s at wide open throttle just back that screw off
My evo’s been running good but i noticed its bogging when i get on it in 3rd gear. Smaller main jet?
What size motor and what jets currently?
@@greasesgarage i think its over 80” has a ton of compression. Ran the same jets you are & it ran like shit haha Running a 72 main & a 28 intermediate now
Are you running the brass Speed Dealer Customs velocity stack? I have the exact set up but I went in a did a once over with some Mothers polish.
I am yes, awesome kit. I have to put the tear drop back on to test a theory I had so depending on how that goes I’ll either keep the stack or the teardrop
Hey I got a question. I got a super e on my shovel, when i have the enrichment on, it doesn’t increase my idle, instead it sounds like a vacuum leak, you can hear a sucking sound. Is this normal? The bike seems to start fine, but I live in hot weather
Not normal, idle should definitely increase. What air filter you running? Is there a carb support?
Stock S&s tear drop. Has the stock support that comes off the front head.
Great video dude!
Thanks!
What primary is that that you’re running? Also awesome video. Had an old timer explain this same test to me a week ago.
This is a BDL 8mm 1.5” kit for 79-84 Shovelheads, kickstart only 🤘🏼 I’ve got nothing but good things to say about it
I’m running the same velocity stack. Which main jet did you end up with?
74 👍🏼
@ legend 🤙🏾
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I was told when checking plugs with new its gonna take a bit of riding for them to show the condition for you to read them, your thoughts grease?
I would ride it for a day to get the plugs showing some condition but it shouldn’t take longer than that
@@greasesgarage sometimes I have a bit of a flat spot on the lower end but wide open is fine can you bump up or down on the one intermediate jet or do you have to do em both.
The intermediate controls between idle and about half throttle. The main is the opposite. You can switch just one, and should switch just one, depending on which areas need the tweaking
@@greasesgarage thank you so much for taking the time to let me pick your brain, last thing. When reading plugs once they burn one way like lean can they burn another way? Rich to lean lean to rich or do I have to replace em each time to check how they burn
No need to replace. If they get rich and you run lean it’ll burn the carbon off. And vice versa as well
What if your engine idles to high when you stop at a light and then slowly drops
The most common cause for that is an air leak. It idles high because it’s still drawing as you come to a stop but once you’re stopped the draw slows and it eventually settles back down
@@greasesgarage I’ll take a look at the intake
Ok i’m not sure where the choke is supposed to be while making these changes. I have an S&S Super.
It can be anywhere it’s not related to these adjustments
How about a video talking about carb sizing. So many S&S carbs to choose from, how do I know the right one for my bike?
Great question. In all honesty I’ll have to do some research myself before making that video but I will put it on the list 👍🏼
I was told by some old heads S&S super B is for 80ci and lower S&S super E 88ci to I believe 96ci and S&S super G is what I have is for big CI motors. I have a 131 CI merch performance with a S&S super G
Factory settings would include factory jetting , correct?
What are the factory jets ?
It would not because I have no idea what bike you’re riding with this carburetor and it depends on the bike it’s on
1998 big twin . But this is an aftermarket carb so it would come new in a box with the jets that correspond to these factory settings unless I'm missing something
If I set the carb to these settings it's way too rich which leads me to think the jets or a jet is too big.
@leoispoop I would ask the seller, I’m not sure that there’s one set of jets that every super E will always ship with
Great video will defiantly return
Happy to hear that 🙏🏼
Grease! Man, you are my go-to bike/chopper guru now. I built a chopper from the ground up and your videos were invaluable, especially with the wiring.
I have a carb question. My donor motor is a 250cc Chinese Honda clone that came off a cheap dual sport and the carb is pretty bare bones; the only adjustment screw is the idle. I put a pod air filter and straight pipe on it. It runs perfectly with even power all through the throttle range, and there's no popping or backfiring when I let off the gas. Can I take this as an indication that the mixture is good enough that I don't need to re-jet the carb? I don't want to ruin the engine by running too lean, but it seems to be fine as is.
I would take it as a good indicator absolutely. If you were lean you’d experience some poor performance and popping out of the carb. If you wanted to be extra sure, run it wide open for a stretch, 5-6 seconds at top gear full throttle, and kill the motor and coast to a stop.
Pull the plug and check it for color. It should be a golden brown. Basically anything besides clean white or cooked. That will be your truest test but again, not hearing popping or poor performance is quite a positive sign already
@@greasesgarage -- I'll do it. Thanks, man!
What velocity stack are you running?
Speed dealer customs
Really cool video
my fav carb also
Dude awesome this video helps me a lot. Do you have one on making your bike start up easily with kick only? I find my starting sequence is a lot more difficult when the engine is warm. Fires up on a dime when it’s cold
Sounds like I have another video to make haha, that’s a great question and I used to have that problem too. Used to give me problems after I’d fill up at the pump. What ignition and bike you running?
@@greasesgarage so I watched your video about what to do when your motorcycle won’t start and between this video and that video I have a much better understanding and I’m sure if I get everything dialed in on the carb and everything is good with the battery etc I should be having an easier time. My starting sequence is good when cold only takes 2 kicks most of the time but when it’s warm I have a different sequence and sometimes that works but sometimes I gotta walk away for about a half hour lol I have the s&s HI-4N electric ignition. Thanks for any help
@@caseycarey5445one thing I can say for sure has helped me (and you may already be doing this) is to never use the choke to start the bike once it’s already warm. It’ll flood immediately. Another thing I do is with the ignition OFF I will find the correct stroke first, then key on, then kick and it almost always kicks over on the first kick this way.
@@greasesgarage good to know that thanks I’m definitely gonna try. I know in the s&s manual for hot start it says to choke it and then give two quick quarter turns of throttle. I’ve found it works sometimes but if it doesn’t happen to fire then it floods. I forgot to mention I have the thunderjet kit installed too but as far as I know it shouldn’t affect starting. It just gives it a third fuel circuit.
@@caseycarey5445 very curious about that thunder jet
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Grease what year is your Evo? and is your intake manifold a "S&S-160-1628"?
My evo is a 1994 so the “head breather” variety. I will have to double check the manifold tonight
If you increase your main jet do you have to re tune?
You should be ok where you’re at if you swap the main, the pilot you would wanna retune
Great video man thanks
Hey Grease what do you think of the yost carb spacer?
I haven’t heard of it before to be honest, what’s it for
I just did these settings. Now it won't start. So these "back to factory settings" don't work
These are direct from S&S, so I can assure you they work. How about some more context? What motor, what jets do you have? We can’t help you without info
Grease , just wondering what size intermediate jet you was running?
29.5
@@greasesgaragesorry I ment the other jet inside the float bowl ? Don’t know what it’s called? Do you know?
@conwaybloodstock6196 main jet, I run a 72 for that one
Yeah I just picked up one on a used motorcycle a 1980 and I haven't filled with an s&s since the late 70s....
Great video but you should have told us what to look for on the plus
On what?
@@greasesgarage s&s card setup
@@greasesgarage at the end you show the plugs but don't say what your looking for
Ohh plugs! Yes I see what you’re saying now. I’ll have to do a whole video on that it’s too much for this video
Love me super e carby running one on my turbo shovelhead grate video mate 👌
Super E’s forever 💪🏼 find me on insta if you’re on there I’d love to see that turbo shovel
Lake Massabesic baby!
Remember, Evo's have poor or no oil pressure if your idle's too low. Shovels are ok.
How do you ride without a mirror? How do you know wtf is going on behind you?
@@rickciceran3181 just gotta keep looking forward
Used this info now my carb doesn’t work 😢
Give me some more info so I can help. What bike, what jets, what settings
Cool
is it my imagination or are the front forks bent.
I hope it’s your imagination hahah
ok then. what size jet did it take to get it the way it should be. my new carb is doing my plugs exactly the same way. thanks@@greasesgarage
74 main will fix it
Followed your instructions but i was also confused with the idle instructions?🤔 Can't turn in after seated so i left it at that. Started bike and idled so fast I'm glad it didn't blow motor but after i turned it back out to where it idled low turn it back up to where i thought idle was good bike is running the best it ever did. Delete that video and redo a new one explaining idle adjustment before someone blows a motor.
If you watched the video, you’ll see seated means it just touches the screw to the metal tab. I show it visually in the video. I’ve never had someone interpret it the way you did
Well for a first timer like me I still don't know what tab you're talking about. You say when it seats half turn in🤔 and did watch video several times to figure out what you were talking about
Lightly seated... you goofball. 1000% misunderstanding on your part!
I've had a few CV carbs never a problem. easy to put jets in , and tune. never broke down or messed up. I got this S&S super garbage "E" carburetor on a 94 wide glide and what a piece of crap. Impossible to tune. bike won't run I've checked everything else I'm done. I'm pulling this piece of garbage off. And I'm not even going to sell it to anyone else. I'm going to destroy it.
There are fake ones out there. I wonder if the previous owner threw an eBay special on there and those fake eBay ones will never run right
This is an early one cause it doesn't have a jet for the air bleed. So I might wrong but I think it's 25 years old at least what I read.
@jimgagne3801 mine is also that style. What size motor are you running and what size jets?
Just a stock 80 inch EVO , 94 dyna wide glide. It was a friends bike but it would foul plugs, then he died and I inherited the bike.it didn't run though. So I dropped the Boal and it had a 76 main and a 29.5 pilot. The mixture screw was at 2 turns out and the accelerator pump screw was at one turn the plugs were fouled but it would only start with the choke on and run that way till you foul the plugs. It's getting gas, I went back to the factory settings and new plugs, and it won't run at all. Unless I use starting fluid then it dies. I've changed to 66 a main and 68, and a70 main and went down to a 28 pilot . But it just doesn't run till i spray starting fluid. I don't really want to give up on it cause it's American but I'm thinking I have to either take it off and completely rebuild it and start over, or try a CV that I have laying around that's a new take off. And see if that is the problem, or maybe it's something else. I'm, just old and tired off working on stuff after I get out of work as everyone rides by my house enjoying life before the world goes to crap...yes I am whining. 😢
@jimgagne3801 if it’s any help, I run a 72 main 29.5 pilot on that same size motor. I could possibly go down to a 28 pilot though. All my settings are here in this video.
If that doesn’t get you running, I would be willing to bet that there’s a problem outside of the carb or with an air leak at the manifold
Y’all need to watch the video multiple times or smoke less weeds or drink less drank. Or just pay attention. Jesus
Worse tuning vid I think I’ve seen yet. You need to take this down. I can only image how many heart aachs you’ve caused
Your comment helps my channels metrics and ensures that UA-cam continues to push the video out to more people. Thank you 🙏🏼
@@greasesgarage that maybe true. But I’m team ppl. So healthy communication should be the only info in a perfect world. Your tuning knowledge is not up to par. Step it up an become better or be on team evil and push trash
@@acurarl9929 if you were team ppl as you say, you’d make a better guide. If you’re here to build up, get to building. Do the work. The community needs you.
If not, you’re just tearing down 🤷♂️
@@greasesgarage for sure they absolutely do. And sometimes I need them that’s why it’s a shame to see information that isn’t just coach talk it’s information that’s going to cause ppl the loss of physical time in life leading them the wrong way.
@@greasesgarage we all need lots of “ME’S”
FRENCH LANGAGE, PLEASE !!!
It should allow you to choose French captions
@@greasesgarage I went to your settings there is no French
@@greasesgarage I have a shovel with a shorty I can't adjust my recovery pump
the jets are 72 for the main and 29.5 for the pilot
what do you recommend in terms of number of turns?
Shoot I’ll have to look into this, that might be a UA-cam thing though because I don’t think there’s an option for me to change anything
To adjust accelerator pump you want to start from all the way in and turn out in half turn increments until you get a good throttle response
You didn’t even try to look at the plug. Like what are you doing
S&S E is a good carb, but overpriced.
The nice part is they’re literally everywhere so getting them second hand for $200 and below is no difficulty at all
I'm running a S&S knock off from amazon and surprisingly enough it works very well and cost me a meager $52 new and $28 for the manifold. Hard to choke down $450 without at least giving the amazon a shot