Wasn't looking for exactly this, but since I do work with fibreglass quite a lot, and have use of press studs ( Cosplay commissions and props ) Great looking attachment, as well as being informative about types/ uses of blind rivets. Thanks! However, since all three were fitted with gaskets simple use would take time to work loose. I'd like to see the same test with the water under pressure. Possibly with the stud 'just' below the water line, or similar.
We thought about doing a pressure test, but an internal pressure test (from inside the tubing) is not as relevant as an external pressure test. An external pressure test is difficult to perform and really should be done on riveted snap studs that have been in the field for a year or more. Most riveted studs will likely not leak, except maybe the “OPEN END” blind rivet. Over time the mandrel of an open end rivet will likely loosen up and fall out. If in doubt always utilize the “best” components.
We definitely like your product and your presentation. You are a natural on camera! Please consider the small number of folks this product is marketed toward and what most of us do for a living or in our free time and finish the video properly. We want to see proper fittings and safety measures of course followed by another test to see this work undone in a spectacular fashion! How many PSI will it take to turn that mild mannered presentation into a 3 headed concrete cutting water jet from hell??!! Thanks again. I'm NOT an engineer but I'll throw out a very uneducated guess since we all want to know. I say 2500 psi blows the rivets out.
I'll be making a boat cover soon for a small aluminum boat. I didn't want to drill and rivet studs into the side of the boat for the cover, but this makes me rethink that.
The first rivet being open end, will leak overtime even if the mandrel ball is left undisturbed. This wont take but a few moments if under pressure. The second blind rivet being closed end, will not leak with your foam seal. Maybe over time as the seal degrades with UV, water might leak through. If you had the "all inclusive" rubber sealant on the stainless rivet with the foam sealant... it would be the best case scenario as long as your riveting in materials equal to or harder than itself. Using the stainless steel rivet in fiberglass or alum would not be a good idea. Finally, the aluminum closed end rivet with the "all inclusive" rubber sealant does not work well in tubing because the rivet is too soft. The little piece coming out of your rivet gun is actually the mandrel pulling through the rivet body which will cause shear or tensile failure over time. It also may cause a loose set or a sharp edge after riveting.
I really want to try those blind rivets with the sealer on the hull of my boats and customer boats. will they handle the pressure and the rough conditions on the water?
Why not fit the gasket over the rivet whilst in the tool into over the stud. This means the gasket need no adhesive and can be loose rather than mounted on card, and you can see the hole when you enter the rivet?
a tip you if you radius the nose piece it will form onto the tube,, They also do alu soft-set rivets for GRP There are also some anaerobic seals that run and set under pressure which would increase the head seal once dried... I know a fair few mast companies use Monel rivets without plating for fixing to masts.. Always ensure that you mandrels (stem) are stainless else they will leech and leave big streams of rust... Try testing with a higher head of water say 1mtr head
Hi do you think these would work under pressure I’ve got to change the immersion heater thread from 1” to 1/14” bsp it’s not easy to find a plumber that does brasing now so if I had something made with a flange drilled a series of holes and used a good sealer would it hold do you think
+Nik Beilfuss Here is a link to the snap stud: www.sailrite.com/Snap-Fastener-Standard-Eyelet-Stud-Nickel-Plated-Key-C Here is a link to the rivets we are using: www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=snaprite%20rivet
That stainless blind rivet would work fine on steel or fiberglass applications but not on aluminum, such as boats or aircraft because of electrolysis between dissimilar metals. That would lead to corrosion.
Wasn't looking for exactly this, but since I do work with fibreglass quite a lot, and have use of press studs ( Cosplay commissions and props ) Great looking attachment, as well as being informative about types/ uses of blind rivets. Thanks!
However, since all three were fitted with gaskets simple use would take time to work loose. I'd like to see the same test with the water under pressure. Possibly with the stud 'just' below the water line, or similar.
We thought about doing a pressure test, but an internal pressure test (from inside the tubing) is not as relevant as an external pressure test. An external pressure test is difficult to perform and really should be done on riveted snap studs that have been in the field for a year or more. Most riveted studs will likely not leak, except maybe the “OPEN END” blind rivet. Over time the mandrel of an open end rivet will likely loosen up and fall out. If in doubt always utilize the “best” components.
We definitely like your product and your presentation. You are a natural on camera! Please consider the small number of folks this product is marketed toward and what most of us do for a living or in our free time and finish the video properly. We want to see proper fittings and safety measures of course followed by another test to see this work undone in a spectacular fashion! How many PSI will it take to turn that mild mannered presentation into a 3 headed concrete cutting water jet from hell??!! Thanks again. I'm NOT an engineer but I'll throw out a very uneducated guess since we all want to know. I say 2500 psi blows the rivets out.
I'll be making a boat cover soon for a small aluminum boat. I didn't want to drill and rivet studs into the side of the boat for the cover, but this makes me rethink that.
You could make the test even better by putting pressure in your tube....luv these videos
The first rivet being open end, will leak overtime even if the mandrel ball is left undisturbed. This wont take but a few moments if under pressure. The second blind rivet being closed end, will not leak with your foam seal. Maybe over time as the seal degrades with UV, water might leak through. If you had the "all inclusive" rubber sealant on the stainless rivet with the foam sealant... it would be the best case scenario as long as your riveting in materials equal to or harder than itself. Using the stainless steel rivet in fiberglass or alum would not be a good idea. Finally, the aluminum closed end rivet with the "all inclusive" rubber sealant does not work well in tubing because the rivet is too soft. The little piece coming out of your rivet gun is actually the mandrel pulling through the rivet body which will cause shear or tensile failure over time. It also may cause a loose set or a sharp edge after riveting.
I really want to try those blind rivets with the sealer on the hull of my boats and customer boats. will they handle the pressure and the rough conditions on the water?
Why not fit the gasket over the rivet whilst in the tool into over the stud. This means the gasket need no adhesive and can be loose rather than mounted on card, and you can see the hole when you enter the rivet?
a tip you if you radius the nose piece it will form onto the tube,, They also do alu soft-set rivets for GRP
There are also some anaerobic seals that run and set under pressure which would increase the head seal once dried... I know a fair few mast companies use Monel rivets without plating for fixing to masts.. Always ensure that you mandrels (stem) are stainless else they will leech and leave big streams of rust... Try testing with a higher head of water say 1mtr head
Hi do you think these would work under pressure I’ve got to change the immersion heater thread from 1” to 1/14” bsp it’s not easy to find a plumber that does brasing now so if I had something made with a flange drilled a series of holes and used a good sealer would it hold do you think
That has not been tested, but it may hold water if sealed well.
@@SailriteDIY thanks fo your reply i'm going to give it a go
anyone know what type snap buttons he is using like 5/8 or 3/16 and size of rivets?
snap studs sorry.
+Nik Beilfuss Here is a link to the snap stud: www.sailrite.com/Snap-Fastener-Standard-Eyelet-Stud-Nickel-Plated-Key-C
Here is a link to the rivets we are using: www.sailrite.com/search?keywords=snaprite%20rivet
Perhaps you can do another test WITHOUT gasket ...... !
Very clear explanation. Thank you sir
You are welcome!
That stainless blind rivet would work fine on steel or fiberglass applications but not on aluminum, such as boats or aircraft because of electrolysis between dissimilar metals. That would lead to corrosion.
Thank you very much, nicely explained !
+PRACERZ You are welcome!
pressure !
Well done! Send us your address and we'll send you a funnel!!! LOL
put the water under pressure like a garden hose
not impressed doc johnny
should also try without the gaskets...
No, what that means is your company wasted it time with the sealed rivets
Nice Rolex.
“In no particular order...” followed by an explicit order by expected results.
he holds the tool from wrong position ! ...waste of time