It was great to see this process. My late father worked thruout the war at Murrys in Detroit, Mi. he worked on the wing assembly of the B-17 as the inspector of the rivet's installed. He was very proud of the plane and the work they did their on it. He spoke of all the letters and card's they received from B-17 crews in the war zones thanking them for a great plane.
🤩 Dang I luv this guy and his Rivet info tips! The difference between me and him is, I'm the *DIY* dude driving out of a *Home* *Depot* Parking Lot and he looks like a 1967 Pasadena *JPL* *Tech* *Man* about to launch another Rocket into Space.
This is so helpful. My rivet gun came with limited instructions so I didn't even know that I could determine the hitting strength. Just having that information may solve the problem I've been having with my project!
A good thing to note about setting the river gun is that with your average 1/8 inch rivet a proper bucktail should be achieved in about 3 to 5 seconds. Adjust the gun accordingly to achieve this. Just a little trick I learned back in MOS school. A fair bit more accurate than basing it off of the indentation in the block.
Shooting rivets with your partner, 1 tap hit it again, 2 taps good rivet and 3 hard taps followed by cussing means drill it out. Continuation on 3 taps and drilling find a new partner the two of you aren't a team and wasting time and money.
Can brass solid rivets be installed using a manual press (like the one used to make holes or ring rivets)? Or it always has to be done using air punch hammer ? (I plan to use brass rivets to reassemble blades on antique fan propellers... the clearance is always the same and could performed on a bench. I don't need a mobile air hammer, except if really necessary for the rivet...)
I guess you could attempt it and let us know. The instructor in this videos is retired and hopefully healthy at home. We post the videos for students to have the material online and easy to access. So as longer as those antiques are flying and are whitin airworthiness. Do as you feel it might work for you. Brass is very easy to work with.
@The_Sheet_Metal_Lab_260--_SAIT School of Transportation Any chance of a lesson on how to Rivet plastic fan ring to stainless steel flywheel? I'm rebuilding a rowing erg and I have to have it as drag free and balanced as possible. Thinking of using domed Aluminum solid rivets and anneal the ends? don't want expansion in the plastic, just clamping. Well thats the plan. Mahalo
What are these tools called? These days all rivet related tools seem to work with the type that puls a stud and breaks it off. These rivets look much better.
This can handle high temperature change much better welding but the material must match harmony index otherwise voltage static electricity could interfer with operation optimum operation requirement
Anyone here know how to determine the length for a rivet going into a dimpled hole? For a shop head you use L = W x 1.5D but if you dimple the material won't you be deforming the width?
Hi, As the administrator of this page. I would like to request you for a video with better quality and material as it seems you have something better to provide. The videos were film long time ago, when digital cameras and filming equipment were not as common like this days. I am an student and I upload the videos to help classmates to get a little bit of help during our courses.
1.5 rivet length is ok for thick aluminum. Like .050" 2024-T3 and thicker. When you're riveting thin material like .016" 2024-T3. 1.5 rivet length is far too long after driven. It stretches the aluminum sheet giving terrible results. This is even worse when driving monel rivets. My rule is generally 1D length max. Even a little shorter with monel rivets in thin SS or ti sheet material. I always use rivet rubber to keep the shop head side sheet material flat. Very little gun pressure and I always use a tungsten bar. I'm 29 years in the business. And a transport Canada licensed sheet metal AME. Most of my experience is in very thin material. Anybody can drive rivets in thick material and make it look decent. Not so easy in the thin stuff.
I’m doing a partial roof repair on an inclosed trailer.Roof is thin galvalume with .040 al going overlap.Using 3/16 1100*F soft al brazier rivets.Cut 1/2” length down to .350” Big bottoms I tell you after setting.The 1/2” would just bend over.I’ll put 2 rows being 2” apart.Should be good.Kinda fun learning all this stuff and tricks of the trade.Thanks for you comment.
@Scott M Yes. A 1100 series rivet is soft aluminum. They drive and finish nicely. A double row of 3/16 diameter rivet is more than sufficient for .040" sheet. I love solid rivets compared to blind (hollow) rivets. Your joints will never work loose.
@@lenBrill1971 I watched mikey dedesilva youtube channel from Ontario.He showed a partial roof repair and I’m going to do it that way.Check his channel out.He loves tools of the trade if one could buy them.He makes his own specialty tools.
Basic Riveting Fundamentals The rivet is driven by a pneumatic rivet gun with an attached rivet set shaped according to the shape of the manufactured head of the rivet. The rivet's tail (blunt end) is backed up by a bucking bar that acts as an anvil while the rivet gun and set are acting as a hammer.
It was great to see this process. My late father worked thruout the war at Murrys in Detroit, Mi. he worked on the wing assembly of the B-17 as the inspector of the rivet's installed. He was very proud of the plane and the work they did their on it. He spoke of all the letters and card's they received from B-17 crews in the war zones thanking them for a great plane.
Great comprehensive video with none of the starting “fluff” amateurs often do.
That’s because people are trying too make a living u absolute imbecile.
Thanks Jim
Excellent video! Explains the riveting process very clearly
Absolutely Riveting!
GTFO 👉🏼 😂 😉
LMFAO, after all of the riveting videos I've watched, I can't believe I haven't seen this yet!
🤩 Dang I luv this guy and his Rivet info tips! The difference between me and him is, I'm the *DIY* dude driving out of a *Home* *Depot* Parking Lot and he looks like a 1967 Pasadena *JPL* *Tech* *Man* about to launch another Rocket into Space.
This is so helpful. My rivet gun came with limited instructions so I didn't even know that I could determine the hitting strength. Just having that information may solve the problem I've been having with my project!
Thank you sir this is great stuff very helpful for my test !
Good demonstrative video - right to the point.
A good thing to note about setting the river gun is that with your average 1/8 inch rivet a proper bucktail should be achieved in about 3 to 5 seconds. Adjust the gun accordingly to achieve this. Just a little trick I learned back in MOS school. A fair bit more accurate than basing it off of the indentation in the block.
ethan underwood that seems incredibly long. Guys in my shop are usually blasting for 1-2 seconds. Experienced guys can do it faster.
I like the way he says "Proo-cess". Great Video thank you!
Mr. Deneve was a great Instructor, he is a very fun person to interact with. Now he is retired and enjoying the time off.
Reminds me of Jordan Peterson
Indeed, he is also riveting.
@@G5Hohn😂😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely
Would've been nice to see a close up of the finished rivet
Sorry, but this is how the school filmed back in the days. We totally agree with you.
Guess I wasn't the only one screaming at the video "Zoom in! Zoom in". 😂
It's really educative
wow thank you for this video! This was so helpful!
Well done, I wanted more close ups of the work area though.
240p we meet again!
It was called "VHS" and we LIKED it!
7:30-7:40 In addition to more close-ups, I wish the video was high-quality. 240p lol
Excellent explanation.
Shooting rivets with your partner, 1 tap hit it again, 2 taps good rivet and 3 hard taps followed by cussing means drill it out. Continuation on 3 taps and drilling find a new partner the two of you aren't a team and wasting time and money.
I guess it's kind of randomly asking but do anyone know of a good place to watch newly released tv shows online ?
@Colton Nelson Flixportal :P
@Kash Jaxon thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I really appreciate it !
@Colton Nelson happy to help :)
Dump the rivet.
Oversize the hole.
Slam in a soft A rivet and plug that sucker up...it's coffee time
Can brass solid rivets be installed using a manual press (like the one used to make holes or ring rivets)? Or it always has to be done using air punch hammer ? (I plan to use brass rivets to reassemble blades on antique fan propellers... the clearance is always the same and could performed on a bench. I don't need a mobile air hammer, except if really necessary for the rivet...)
I guess you could attempt it and let us know. The instructor in this videos is retired and hopefully healthy at home. We post the videos for students to have the material online and easy to access. So as longer as those antiques are flying and are whitin airworthiness. Do as you feel it might work for you. Brass is very easy to work with.
@The_Sheet_Metal_Lab_260--_SAIT School of Transportation Any chance of a lesson on how to Rivet plastic fan ring to stainless steel flywheel? I'm rebuilding a rowing erg and I have to have it as drag free and balanced as possible. Thinking of using domed Aluminum solid rivets and anneal the ends? don't want expansion in the plastic, just clamping. Well thats the plan. Mahalo
I am a rivet factory from China
Its way easier to get thru if you speed it up to 1.5x.😉
What are these tools called? These days all rivet related tools seem to work with the type that puls a stud and breaks it off.
These rivets look much better.
Very good mr
Man I miss shooting rivets.
All you need is hamer and hand anvil and shock absorband and drill or prefabricated hole sequence
This can handle high temperature change much better welding but the material must match harmony index otherwise voltage static electricity could interfer with operation optimum operation requirement
Whats wrong with tek screws, just as good
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I will like to show our support to promising young students.
Check this video and live your comments
Nice, but should have zoomed in a bit.
For the bucker...no pancakes...no cupcakes...be looking for a hamburger Patty... some of y'all won't understand
Damn, was this filmed on a etch a sketch?
It’s a riveting tutorial. Not the next Blockbuster movie.
@@kansascityshuffle8526 lol
Anyone here know how to determine the length for a rivet going into a dimpled hole? For a shop head you use L = W x 1.5D but if you dimple the material won't you be deforming the width?
Still 1.5 Diameter, even for countersunk rivets.
@@andrewalexander9492 yes my project is completed at this point, thanks
Was video shot on a piece of bread?
Hi, As the administrator of this page. I would like to request you for a video with better quality and material as it seems you have something better to provide. The videos were film long time ago, when digital cameras and filming equipment were not as common like this days. I am an student and I upload the videos to help classmates to get a little bit of help during our courses.
The Sheet Metal Lab 260 - SAIT School of Transportation *Hold my sandwhich
I'll be waiting. I won't promise that you will have a sandwich by the time you are done tho.
The Sheet Metal Lab 260 - SAIT School of Transportation Consider it a donation then😉
@@silverdropstang thanks for your support. Please comeback
would have liked to seen the 9x gun again.
This looks like Bill from freaks and geeks
1.5 rivet length is ok for thick aluminum. Like .050" 2024-T3 and thicker.
When you're riveting thin material like .016" 2024-T3.
1.5 rivet length is far too long after driven. It stretches the aluminum sheet giving terrible results.
This is even worse when driving monel rivets.
My rule is generally 1D length max. Even a little shorter with monel rivets in thin SS or ti sheet material. I always use rivet rubber to keep the shop head side sheet material flat. Very little gun pressure and I always use a tungsten bar.
I'm 29 years in the business. And a transport Canada licensed sheet metal AME.
Most of my experience is in very thin material.
Anybody can drive rivets in thick material and make it look decent.
Not so easy in the thin stuff.
I’m doing a partial roof repair on an inclosed trailer.Roof is thin galvalume with .040 al going overlap.Using 3/16 1100*F soft al brazier rivets.Cut 1/2” length down to .350” Big bottoms I tell you after setting.The 1/2” would just bend over.I’ll put 2 rows being 2” apart.Should be good.Kinda fun learning all this stuff and tricks of the trade.Thanks for you comment.
@Scott M Yes. A 1100 series rivet is soft aluminum. They drive and finish nicely. A double row of 3/16 diameter rivet is more than sufficient for .040" sheet.
I love solid rivets compared to blind (hollow) rivets. Your joints will never work loose.
@@lenBrill1971 I watched mikey dedesilva youtube channel from Ontario.He showed a partial roof repair and I’m going to do it that way.Check his channel out.He loves tools of the trade if one could buy them.He makes his own specialty tools.
@@2hotscottpro . . . .will do👍🍻
@@lenBrill1971 oops it’s mikey desilva,,cheers
Ready?....go!
So what are the fundamentals mga sir?
Basic Riveting Fundamentals
The rivet is driven by a pneumatic rivet gun with an attached rivet set shaped according to the shape of the manufactured head of the rivet. The rivet's tail (blunt end) is backed up by a bucking bar that acts as an anvil while the rivet gun and set are acting as a hammer.
Pulling hair out thinking how stupid does he think i am?
Fell asleep watching
This was good paying work for 6 months. Tell I was laid off. :(
Cascade Aerospace is Hiring right now in BC. Also Avmax and Viking Air. Good luck !
What is the riveting technique for replacing the rivets on a female ratchet: ua-cam.com/video/-tpz3nV__as/v-deo.html ?
Reggie Miller!?
to blurry
I am so lost
Sorry to read that. Maybe watch other videos to reinforce what you already know. And I hope this can complement your learning.
quality in this video is so bad that you should just remove this lol