Wood stove tip on starting the stove and get it going much faster. Use a butane torch to get it started, the heat from the torch with warm up the flue pipe quickly while igniting the wood. This will create a draft without smoking yourself out.
Elevation has a factor on how the wood stove operates as well as the type of wood used like you did mention. I'm doing the same build and got a diesel fuel heater as a back up and as a way to quickly heat up the trailer until the wood stove gets going.... I've found nothing beats wood heat for drying out wet gear but with that said i have to have a pot of water close to the stove to help keep some moisture in the air or my throat and sinuses would be dryed out
My wife and I just put one in our new tiny house and we absolutely love it killer little stove I highly recommend it. It shipped DHL and we had it in 3 days I had a couple questions and their customer service is impeccable as well!!
I love it too! It’s just a bit slow to get cranking when it’s zero degrees outside and we’re getting it lit when it’s stone cold. But once it’s up and running, it’s amazing.
These stoves get great reviews for a reason. Super well built. Our gasifier wood stove can smoke you out too until it heats through. We use fatwood and feather sticks, never paper, that’s our trick. Thanks Gritty!
I put solar on my enclosed. Pretty easy and definitely makes it possible to go off grid. The battery I went with was Vatrer self heating 100AH. It’s been more than enough to run lights, diesel heater, charge electronics, etc. I use this trailer to snowmobile as well so diesel was the way I went. Wood would be sweet if it wasn’t wet half the time.
Love the explanation of the outside fresh air intake to aid in combustion, but many like you do not use it. If you did install the fresh air intake, you would really achieve this stove's greatest performance. Give it a try. Just my two cents. Thanks for the review!
Just use a propane torch (Benzomatic High intensity trigger start) to get it started. Smaller pieces on the bottom, med size on top and lighter up. Once its going add the larger pieces. I too have a grizzly in my bunkie and it gives the heat you need to start it. Your So right with how long the stove gives off heat. Also great with the water heater attached. I too don't see much difference with the bottom air vent. I put it at 50% and play around with the front vent. I love this stove
Have same setup in my sailboat. That l have Lived in for the last 9yrs,here in Alaska. Been using the grizzly for mane heat source, and do 60 percent of my cooking.
That's a nice bit of kit, will hopefully have one fitted in my own hunting-trailer one day. I'm UK-based so only get to bowhunt in the US for 2-3 months each year, although I'm taking steps to try and improve that. Recently found your channel so I'm busy devouring as much of it as I can (much of it during my lunch-break while in the office) for the time when I can split my time between the two countries 50/50.
I’m with you on the wood heat it’s the best. If your looking for a second source of heat look up Chinese diesel heaters I use them to camp while ice fishing they run like 16 hours on a gallon of diesel and would work perfect for getting your trailer nice and hot to dry out gear.
Your stove is going to draft air from some source whether that be inside your trailer or out. If it's pulling air from inside it will draw cold air into the trailer through whatever cracks it can to replace the air it's drafting up the chimney. If you pipe in that cold air intake and use that source for air you eliminate those drafts created by the stove trying to pull air through whatever air gaps it can plus cold air is denser and should feed the fire better.
if you hook up a small vent pipe to the bottom vent and bring the fresh air from outside this grizzly will perform better if it is not taking warm air from inside your trailer
I would think closer to the floor better it w work , of course makes it a pain to bend down and place wood in. Though more stove pipe exposed and firebox lower it would put out more heat.
Love what you're doing. Look into a diesel heater instead of propane. They are inexpensive, easy to install, and don't use much fuel. Keep up the videos!
GREAT video, Brian! In Arkansas we like to use Osage orange, hickory, cedar, and fat wood for kindling, but to each his own! Gritty is top tier!!! Thanks wildman!🐻🐻🐻 3 Bear up! Hahaha
That a man can derive pleasure from burning wood has got to drive the feminists insane. The smell of the wood, the glow of the flames, the heat and comfort it brings. 😭 Envy .
I think if it took off like a home version it is likely to have more people burn up their trailers due walking away and forgetting it. It forces you to attend the fire. I had my crew let the stove go on my boat and almost burnt the boat down. (Diesel not wood) The Flextail is a great gadget for how compact it is. I don’t think people realize how much moisture gets trapped in a sleeping pad when you fill by mouth. That definitely wears on the material in low temps. Flextail is a God send for fire starting. Great informative video. Thanks! Great ideas for my future project. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
YOU NAILED IT! Wish I had explained the stove like this. By nature of its design it’s difficult to start but burns safe and efficiently in a small space.
Try shutting the door, opening the bottom draft 100% when starting and set the flex tail under the stove to blow through the draft. I would think it would be hands free at that point.
1st having the door wide open when the fire is just starting is fighting against the chimney and thats why you arw getting more smoke inside. 2nd the 2 different intakes are for 2 different purposes. The front intake is used to allow extra air for getting the fire going hotter at start up and after adding new wood. That should be closed once the fire and coals are going and then you should switch to outside air. Outside air keeps the stove from using the inside air and creating drafts and cold spots. Maybe not that big of deal in a 16ft trailer but that is the intended purpose of the outide air intake. 3rd buy wax wood chip fire starter from wilco. Put handful inthe bottom and couple pieces of wood on each side and stack a couple on top after you light the chips. Close the door most of the way and let it burn for 10 or 15 min. Youll never go back to cardboard or kindling again.
A wood stove will keep you warm with the same wood three times. It warms you up when you have to cut, and load it. It warms you up again when you have to unload, split and stack it. Then it warms you up once more when you have to carry it into your house, start a fire ,and keep it burning to keep your house warm.
Brian, love the build. I have had similar thoughts and actually welded up a stove that I plan to use. One thought for the draw on the stove. Extend the chimney higher off the roof. I’ve heard that a house flu should be a couple feet above the peak. Wondering if that would help the draw. Just a thought. Thanks for sharing. Wood heat all the way!
Hey Chris, the draw issues are more likely due to the insulation qualities of this stove-it’s meant to burn wood without getting dangerously hot and burning down a small space.
HOOK UP THE FRESH AIR SUPPLY !!!!!!!!!!!!! HOOK UP THE OUTSIDE AIR SUPPLY!!! Can't say enough about about getting outside air to the inside fire. I worked for a mason and we ALWAYS, ALWAYS plumbed in outside air to the fire place or the European style masonry heater we were building. Also pre heat the stove pipe with a wad of paper that you light and hold at the base of the pipe to get the draft going. .Hold on fairly good so the paper doesn't get sucked out of your hand and up the pipe when it suddenly starts to draft. I do this with any cold chimney or stove pipe to not smoke near as much! Guarantee your trailer is too tight, even though it is not "air tight" for your stove's air needs. How long can you smell a fart in there?! The guys that made the stove knew what they were doing, follow their advice' :) Love your shows!!!
Thanks brother! I really appreciate this feedback. I'll be finishing the fresh air intake ASAP. I wasn't super concerned this season because there are a few BIG gaps in the trailer where daylight is peaking through (around the rear door and the wheel wells on the floor). But I'll be sealing up those gaps this month and I think you're absolutely right--I need have that fresh air intake going. Thanks again!
Like the CM-G but wish it was 6” deeper more like a hot tent stove. Less cutting of wood by almost half and longer burn time. The biggest hassle with a wood stove is cutting all the little chunks of wood.
I thought the same thing, but I actually changed my mind on that. The stove burns so efficiently and the burn time is so long I wouldn’t want it any bigger. This stove uses a fraction of the wood my hot tent stove uses. And gathering and chopping the wood was actually very easy-we filled 4 large plastic containers with wood for a 7-day trip and we barely burned through 3/4 of one of the containers. This stove burns 8 hours on stuffed load of wood-far longer and better than my hot tent can do.
Could you try a damper on the exhaust side? Once the fire is rolling, close the exhaust damper to halfway or so. It will slow the exhaust down so it can radiate more heat thru the pipe before exiting. The Nu way propane stoves are known to be less effective without the exhaust damper to slow exhaust for more radiant heat. Maybe this would work in a similar way Disclaimer- not a know it all expert. Just throwing out ideas.
Wonder if there is a propane burner you could put inside the stove when you don't have wood supply. As long as you are heating the inside of stove that should keep the moisture down. Definitely like wood heat though. I can get my canvas tent to 80° pretty easily with the wood stove.
The stove drafts better through the roof. The pipe is less visible on the roof. And the trailer is wide and should not have any additional width added for safe highway travel.
He’s got the same problems-everyone with this stove has the same problems. It takes time for the fire to get hot and to really take off. The bigger the space the more noticeable the lack of heat. I guarantee he’s got the same problem.
Whats with the door wide open no no no no mate …your woods to big to start the fire , leave the door open an inch to start, crack a window to cold start or install that 2 inch pipe. You would never survive the old days lol
No wood stove will get going well with the door wide open, it has draft control ports for a reason. Maybe you should have the company rep show you how to use their stove before you share your struggles which may be self inflicted..
I know how to operate a wood stove. Do you own this stove? Have you used it? Are you aware that oxygen blowing on a fire will make it burn hotter than just closing the door and waiting for it to slowly draft? I have been burning wood and using wood stoves since I was wee lad. Your comment tells me that you have no first hand experience with this stove. I can close the door and let this stove draft and it will take 1 hour to get hot, or I can run the fan and get the fire roaring in 10 minutes. This stove is NOT like normal wood stoves-it’s built for safety in a tiny spice and it’s built to deliver an even heat that doesn’t cook you out of a small enclosure. And it’s built to burn wood very, very slow and efficiently-the nature of a design like this makes it an awesome stove once it gets going-but also make it a bitch to get started.
Wow, the “know-it-all” responses in this comment section are a bit surprising. Clearly, you’ve never used this stove. This stove isn’t your regular, at home, wood stove. This stove is built to burn safely inside a very small enclosure. The piping system is double walled, the stove is stuffed with ceramic plates and yes, the stove doesn’t draft easily until it reaches a very high temperature. The bottom line is that it takes about an hour to get satisfyingly warm if you don’t run a blower to speed up the process-but the fire will get roaring hot in 10-15 minutes if you use the fan-that’s it-simple. I have no complaints about the stove once it gets going. The nature of the design makes it a very efficient wood burner and also prevents the stove from getting dangerously hot against a van or trailer wall and subsequently prevents the stove from getting the small space too hot. But this design, by its nature, is difficult to draft and is very slow to get started. I’m trying to educate folks and set expectations-not “trying too hard to sell it.”
Wood stove tip on starting the stove and get it going much faster. Use a butane torch to get it started, the heat from the torch with warm up the flue pipe quickly while igniting the wood. This will create a draft without smoking yourself out.
My happiness correlates slightly with the frequency of your hunting videos, in high anticipation
Ha! Thanks Frank! I’m working on a set of films now. We’ll drop some new hunt videos in a couple weeks!
Elevation has a factor on how the wood stove operates as well as the type of wood used like you did mention. I'm doing the same build and got a diesel fuel heater as a back up and as a way to quickly heat up the trailer until the wood stove gets going.... I've found nothing beats wood heat for drying out wet gear but with that said i have to have a pot of water close to the stove to help keep some moisture in the air or my throat and sinuses would be dryed out
My wife and I just put one in our new tiny house and we absolutely love it killer little stove I highly recommend it. It shipped DHL and we had it in 3 days I had a couple questions and their customer service is impeccable as well!!
I love it too! It’s just a bit slow to get cranking when it’s zero degrees outside and we’re getting it lit when it’s stone cold. But once it’s up and running, it’s amazing.
These stoves get great reviews for a reason. Super well built. Our gasifier wood stove can smoke you out too until it heats through. We use fatwood and feather sticks, never paper, that’s our trick. Thanks Gritty!
I put solar on my enclosed. Pretty easy and definitely makes it possible to go off grid. The battery I went with was Vatrer self heating 100AH. It’s been more than enough to run lights, diesel heater, charge electronics, etc. I use this trailer to snowmobile as well so diesel was the way I went. Wood would be sweet if it wasn’t wet half the time.
Thanks for sharing your trailer build and the info on the stove. Your real world experience with it is invaluable.
Love the explanation of the outside fresh air intake to aid in combustion, but many like you do not use it. If you did install the fresh air intake, you would really achieve this stove's greatest performance. Give it a try. Just my two cents. Thanks for the review!
Great breakdown. I've heard nothing but good things about this unit. Seen it put into a bunch of vans.
Nate
Would love to see more videos on the trailer build-even just quick and easy “iPhone tour” vids-if at all possible. Thanks a million!
Just use a propane torch (Benzomatic High intensity trigger start) to get it started. Smaller pieces on the bottom, med size on top and lighter up. Once its going add the larger pieces. I too have a grizzly in my bunkie and it gives the heat you need to start it. Your So right with how long the stove gives off heat. Also great with the water heater attached. I too don't see much difference with the bottom air vent. I put it at 50% and play around with the front vent. I love this stove
Have same setup in my sailboat. That l have Lived in for the last 9yrs,here in Alaska. Been using the grizzly for mane heat source, and do 60 percent of my cooking.
That's a nice bit of kit, will hopefully have one fitted in my own hunting-trailer one day. I'm UK-based so only get to bowhunt in the US for 2-3 months each year, although I'm taking steps to try and improve that. Recently found your channel so I'm busy devouring as much of it as I can (much of it during my lunch-break while in the office) for the time when I can split my time between the two countries 50/50.
I’m with you on the wood heat it’s the best. If your looking for a second source of heat look up Chinese diesel heaters I use them to camp while ice fishing they run like 16 hours on a gallon of diesel and would work perfect for getting your trailer nice and hot to dry out gear.
Your stove is going to draft air from some source whether that be inside your trailer or out. If it's pulling air from inside it will draw cold air into the trailer through whatever cracks it can to replace the air it's drafting up the chimney. If you pipe in that cold air intake and use that source for air you eliminate those drafts created by the stove trying to pull air through whatever air gaps it can plus cold air is denser and should feed the fire better.
I appreciate your honesty I was thinking about buying one for the motorhome but that’s what I was thinking something it would preheat right away 👍👍🙏
if you hook up a small vent pipe to the bottom vent and bring the fresh air from outside this grizzly will perform better if it is not taking warm air from inside your trailer
I would think closer to the floor better it w
work , of course makes it a pain to bend down and place wood in. Though more stove pipe exposed and firebox lower it would put out more heat.
Love what you're doing. Look into a diesel heater instead of propane. They are inexpensive, easy to install, and don't use much fuel. Keep up the videos!
GREAT video, Brian! In Arkansas we like to use Osage orange, hickory, cedar, and fat wood for kindling, but to each his own! Gritty is top tier!!! Thanks wildman!🐻🐻🐻 3 Bear up! Hahaha
That a man can derive pleasure from burning wood has got to drive the feminists insane.
The smell of the wood, the glow of the flames, the heat and comfort it brings. 😭 Envy .
I think if it took off like a home version it is likely to have more people burn up their trailers due walking away and forgetting it. It forces you to attend the fire. I had my crew let the stove go on my boat and almost burnt the boat down. (Diesel not wood) The Flextail is a great gadget for how compact it is. I don’t think people realize how much moisture gets trapped in a sleeping pad when you fill by mouth. That definitely wears on the material in low temps. Flextail is a God send for fire starting. Great informative video. Thanks! Great ideas for my future project. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
YOU NAILED IT! Wish I had explained the stove like this. By nature of its design it’s difficult to start but burns safe and efficiently in a small space.
Try shutting the door, opening the bottom draft 100% when starting and set the flex tail under the stove to blow through the draft. I would think it would be hands free at that point.
1st having the door wide open when the fire is just starting is fighting against the chimney and thats why you arw getting more smoke inside.
2nd the 2 different intakes are for 2 different purposes. The front intake is used to allow extra air for getting the fire going hotter at start up and after adding new wood. That should be closed once the fire and coals are going and then you should switch to outside air. Outside air keeps the stove from using the inside air and creating drafts and cold spots. Maybe not that big of deal in a 16ft trailer but that is the intended purpose of the outide air intake.
3rd buy wax wood chip fire starter from wilco. Put handful inthe bottom and couple pieces of wood on each side and stack a couple on top after you light the chips. Close the door most of the way and let it burn for 10 or 15 min. Youll never go back to cardboard or kindling again.
Oh right on. 👍
I can not wait to see guys enjoy this space fully .
Cheers to u dude ☕☕ (🔥🍫)
Lots of good info, appreciate it.
A wood stove will keep you warm with the same wood three times. It warms you up when you have to cut, and load it. It warms you up again when you have to unload, split and stack it. Then it warms you up once more when you have to carry it into your house, start a fire ,and keep it burning to keep your house warm.
I wanna see how you build your bed system. I was inspired by your previous episodes. Where you used some
Bunk bed cots.
Try using anthracite coal in the cubic mini grizzly wood stove it will have more output of heat
Brian, love the build. I have had similar thoughts and actually welded up a stove that I plan to use. One thought for the draw on the stove. Extend the chimney higher off the roof. I’ve heard that a house flu should be a couple feet above the peak. Wondering if that would help the draw. Just a thought. Thanks for sharing. Wood heat all the way!
Hey Chris, the draw issues are more likely due to the insulation qualities of this stove-it’s meant to burn wood without getting dangerously hot and burning down a small space.
@@GrittyGearAndPodcast that makes sense! Thanks for the video! As always love the adventures you guys share.
Outstanding!
Can the fire bricks be pulled out/ removed for more room and heat out thru walls? Maybe a controlled experiment on non hunt.
HOOK UP THE FRESH AIR SUPPLY !!!!!!!!!!!!! HOOK UP THE OUTSIDE AIR SUPPLY!!! Can't say enough about about getting outside air to the inside fire. I worked for a mason and we ALWAYS, ALWAYS plumbed in outside air to the fire place or the European style masonry heater we were building. Also pre heat the stove pipe with a wad of paper that you light and hold at the base of the pipe to get the draft going. .Hold on fairly good so the paper doesn't get sucked out of your hand and up the pipe when it suddenly starts to draft. I do this with any cold chimney or stove pipe to not smoke near as much! Guarantee your trailer is too tight, even though it is not "air tight" for your stove's air needs. How long can you smell a fart in there?! The guys that made the stove knew what they were doing, follow their advice' :) Love your shows!!!
Thanks brother! I really appreciate this feedback. I'll be finishing the fresh air intake ASAP. I wasn't super concerned this season because there are a few BIG gaps in the trailer where daylight is peaking through (around the rear door and the wheel wells on the floor). But I'll be sealing up those gaps this month and I think you're absolutely right--I need have that fresh air intake going. Thanks again!
Like the CM-G but wish it was 6” deeper more like a hot tent stove. Less cutting of wood by almost half and longer burn time. The biggest hassle with a wood stove is cutting all the little chunks of wood.
I thought the same thing, but I actually changed my mind on that. The stove burns so efficiently and the burn time is so long I wouldn’t want it any bigger. This stove uses a fraction of the wood my hot tent stove uses. And gathering and chopping the wood was actually very easy-we filled 4 large plastic containers with wood for a 7-day trip and we barely burned through 3/4 of one of the containers. This stove burns 8 hours on stuffed load of wood-far longer and better than my hot tent can do.
Could you try a damper on the exhaust side? Once the fire is rolling, close the exhaust damper to halfway or so. It will slow the exhaust down so it can radiate more heat thru the pipe before exiting.
The Nu way propane stoves are known to be less effective without the exhaust damper to slow exhaust for more radiant heat. Maybe this would work in a similar way
Disclaimer- not a know it all expert. Just throwing out ideas.
Wonder if there is a propane burner you could put inside the stove when you don't have wood supply. As long as you are heating the inside of stove that should keep the moisture down. Definitely like wood heat though. I can get my canvas tent to 80° pretty easily with the wood stove.
Awesome stove thanks for posting..
Awesome review
Diesel heater is way better than propane for a backup heat source
close your door about 3/4 while lighting a new fire and get a plumbers propane torch to light the fire it will save you a ton of time......
Are you guys still planning to do a video on the lite outdoors stove?
We will be doing some more stove stuff in the future.
Curious why you put stove pipe through roof vs. going through side wall. Make ceiling is sealed would seem to be a bit more problematic imho.
The stove drafts better through the roof. The pipe is less visible on the roof. And the trailer is wide and should not have any additional width added for safe highway travel.
I wonder why @Forestyforest doesn’t seem to have any issues like Gritty with his Cubic Mini in his van?
He’s got the same problems-everyone with this stove has the same problems. It takes time for the fire to get hot and to really take off. The bigger the space the more noticeable the lack of heat. I guarantee he’s got the same problem.
Have you guys tested the snowline chainsen lite micro spikes? They’re lighter and very similar to the Kahtoolas
We haven't. I have looked at them, but they don't seem quite as robust as the kahtoola. We should put them to the test and see how they compare.
That would be great.
Use some charcoal. Or bring a small quantity of real coal with you.
Where’s the rest of the trailer build? No way Gritty hasn’t made this thing sing yet.
Close the door and open the bottom vent
It take up a lot of space…..how much space is needed ? Thx
Not much at all. It sticks out from the wall less than 1 foot.
Very nice but u need bigger stove
Don't forget to use a carbon monoxide detector.
Whats with the door wide open no no no no mate …your woods to big to start the fire , leave the door open an inch to start, crack a window to cold start or install that 2 inch pipe. You would never survive the old days lol
No wood stove will get going well with the door wide open, it has draft control ports for a reason. Maybe you should have the company rep show you how to use their stove before you share your struggles which may be self inflicted..
What I like is when kids point out the obvious to adults.
I know how to operate a wood stove. Do you own this stove? Have you used it? Are you aware that oxygen blowing on a fire will make it burn hotter than just closing the door and waiting for it to slowly draft? I have been burning wood and using wood stoves since I was wee lad. Your comment tells me that you have no first hand experience with this stove. I can close the door and let this stove draft and it will take 1 hour to get hot, or I can run the fan and get the fire roaring in 10 minutes. This stove is NOT like normal wood stoves-it’s built for safety in a tiny spice and it’s built to deliver an even heat that doesn’t cook you out of a small enclosure. And it’s built to burn wood very, very slow and efficiently-the nature of a design like this makes it an awesome stove once it gets going-but also make it a bitch to get started.
I am sure you guys have great info. But damn you lost me after 4 minutes of plugs.
Air is the issue. You’re trying too hard to sell it …
Wow, the “know-it-all” responses in this comment section are a bit surprising. Clearly, you’ve never used this stove. This stove isn’t your regular, at home, wood stove. This stove is built to burn safely inside a very small enclosure. The piping system is double walled, the stove is stuffed with ceramic plates and yes, the stove doesn’t draft easily until it reaches a very high temperature. The bottom line is that it takes about an hour to get satisfyingly warm if you don’t run a blower to speed up the process-but the fire will get roaring hot in 10-15 minutes if you use the fan-that’s it-simple. I have no complaints about the stove once it gets going. The nature of the design makes it a very efficient wood burner and also prevents the stove from getting dangerously hot against a van or trailer wall and subsequently prevents the stove from getting the small space too hot. But this design, by its nature, is difficult to draft and is very slow to get started. I’m trying to educate folks and set expectations-not “trying too hard to sell it.”