How Chief's new armor introduction "REALLY" should have gone.
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2024
- Remake of, well my most popular video on my channel using an ACTUAL classic chief model from the halo 4 mythic overhaul mod. Been wanting to remake this with a proper classic chief ever since I made the first one and finally found the time (and remembered) to do it.
This is by no means a proper way to have the armor be swapped, but given what is in the game and the scenes in it this spot makes the most logical sense for the swap to occur.
Anyways, enjoy! - Ігри
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I always hated that lol
What I hated most about the new armour/halo 4 was the fact that they did a flashback to the start of the war, showing off the spartans 2 in the brand new armour that chief is wearing in these scenes.
Plus the stupid Halo 4-5 Elites
They really thought we wouldn't care about that. Its absolutely baffling. Twelve year old me was so upset lol
I mean that wouldve involved having to model brand new armors for one flashback
I get why they did it still not a fan of it
I feel like thats not much to ask for a studio as large as 343. Especially at that time. I mean, they had the models already if they wanted to alter them at all. New textures would have solved a lot of it.@@NEWGHOST9
Get a life halo 4 was dope @@CarRobots
It’s clear that it was intended as a redesign. It was never a new suit because the damage on his chest is still there from the past games
Exactly.
One of the most stupid decisions ever. Nanobots my ass.
There's also added weight to him taking off his armor at the end because he literally hadn't taken off his armor since just after CE.
That doesn't make it a good idea. It being a design flaw or a retcon, both are pointless. Not to mention lore later established this as gen2 Mk VI, so they don't even commit to it.
@@FLanklinBadgeit’d also help the final scene of all the other Spartans and Palmer being shocked at how big he got after the upgrade from the librarian. Going from the og mrk 5 that’s both slimmer and mostly armor to the mrk 5B that has the more defined muscular undersuit and bigger shoulders and chest plate. It’d make chief more visually imposing and give a visual send off to the bungie trilogy and bring in the era of 343 halo.
I just thought of something. Chief would have probably got brand new armor without the dings and scratches. So this armor should have been like halo 5’s
I like to imagine Chief personally requested they make his new armor to be as fucked up as possible while still working lol
@@Warriorcat_UA-cam According to the wikis, Chief's armor in H5 was made by ONI's Watershed division, basically using the schematics Cortana used and adding the features of the GEN2 platform to it.
Which would’ve looked pretty cool ngl
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@@AceOfBlackjack it's entirely possible, often when I'm somewhat passionate about a topic or just find a lot of comments I jive with(or the opposite) quite a bit, I'll comment quite a bit too!
Having Lasky and Del Rio in the classic white isnt what I expected but it looks so damn good!!
wait wat? are they not wearing the same suit halo 4 shipped with?
@@14spiderman No. They had the gray uniform.
@@14spiderman same model but different colors. The white parts were originally dark gray
Meh, those uniforms still look awful and stupid. No amount of color correcting can change a shitty design.
I like the actual new design but the white looked clean.
Yup. Would've been a cool scene, having Spartan Palmer escort Chief down to the Spartan area too, to give him his new armor. A super easy change that would've made a lot of sense without retconnong anything....but nooope
"Alright big guy, we had an armor set to look like yours, but no one's stepped up to take it, it's all yours. Your AI should be compatible too!"
@@Brickman274 it would've been so great!
At the very least, an offhanded comment from lasky before the scene shift saying something like, "Let's get the Chief in something a little more up to date, Palmer" would have sufficed.
@@Brickman274That would’ve been awesome to hear. Not to mention it probably would’ve gotten people to like Palmer more
@@fearthewolf1175i dont think more people would have liked palmer no matter how she was written. she faced the same problem kat did in halo reach, and keyes in 2 and 3. shes a woman, and shes not sexualisable.
i mean remember, people unironically make the argument that she insulted the chief and that makes 99% of the criticism of her. Which is a purposeful misreading of what she actually said (i doubt anyone is stupid enough to accidentally misread what she said), and with lack of any other criticism its very evident that people just hate her cause shes a woman.
like everyone blames kat for being a shitty driver despite literally having the exact same driving ai as everyone else in a game series that is known for having terrible driving ai since its literal first entry.
or how everyone calls out keyes stupid one liners and preventable death in a game series that is built around brain dead one liners and major plot holes in regards to missions going sideways for stupid reasons
I honestly don’t hate the new design in Halo 4 & 5, but the problem is that it’s inconsistent from the last game.
Time passes and Military gear changes.
@@nickm5419 Yet somehow, Chief’s Mark VI armor changes while in cryo-stasis for four years.
@@nickm5419Uuuh... not this drastically in 4 years, my guy. This is like if the US military started using M1A1 Abrams, Blackhawk helicopters, M4A1 Rifles, and Kevlar vests in the Korean War.
4 & 5 armors look awful
@nagger8216 well tbf most of what we saw was on humanity's back foot. This happening in 4 years isn't to hard to imagine
I think fans would’ve been a lot more accommodating to the new art style if they’d introduced it this way.
Everything pre-Infinity arriving is Halo 3 era asthetic, then Infinity arrives with all the updated and modern equipment.
It would definitely show the shift between humanity fighting for survival to rebuilding their power
Fun thing is someone did that in another mod. They used the H4 MP Mark VI for the sake of art style consistency but they made a custom machinima style scene where chief is introduced to the new armour. The battle scars are even removed from the new armour.
The flashback scenes showing the Spartans wearing Chiefs new suit was very odd. Like we all know the Spartans all wore the same thing with minor, literally minor differences. They should all have been wearing what Jerome and Red team were wearing. Even live actions flicks of Halo fail to do this. Jorge was probably the most modified Spartan 2 at the time and Halsey even acknowledges that in Reach, "What have you done with my armor?". It was definitely Mark 4 Armor with additions Jorge added even a new helmet lol Chief just received the Halo 1 CE armor, and by Halo 2 he got the helmet we all know
yeah 343 just changed it all purposely and hoped the fabs wouldnt say anything then when we did they made up bs lore reasons for the changes
That, and the Covenant using Storm Covenant gear in the same flashbacks. It just looked off on so many levels. Only respective design they used right was the Brute Chieftain armor.
@@Wint910 For me the boggest issue wasn't changing the armor, it was that Cortana changed the whole danm thing and there's a large dent on the chest plate. THey should have either not had the dent or had the dent appear after Chief fell to Reqium.
I thought grenadier is basically the og mk IV helmet.
@@wb7585it was developed as part of Mjolnir [G] iirc. It never specifically states it’s a MKIV platform but i believe it mentioned in reach or infinite armor descriptions that it was developed early enough that it would have to fall under that generation. Cant remember but i believe it was late 2520’s or early 2530’s
Palmer’s under suit being all black makes her armor look so cool. Really sections it off and emphasizes the pieces.
this is now the new cannon not that nanotech bs
This just makes Del Rio’s character and everyone’s lack of respect/excitement of Chief’s return more noticeable. Anywho, nice work!
Didn't Del Rio get relieved of Infinity's command when they found out he more or less abandoned Chief without back-up.
@@ashleywessels9860yes lasky even mentioned it in the final mission of halo 4
@@ashleywessels9860It's funny how they just end up brushing the character off with a throwaway line. He was only written in to be an ass to Chief, nothing more
@@Nighterac I don’t see how that’s an issue. Del Rio showed that Chief’s willing to do the right thing no matter what.
People around the ship do salute Chief and nobody does anything when Del Rio order him to be arrested.
Definitely would have worked better but I get that they wanted to use the new design and if we had the old design for the first couple of missions there would have likely been just as much backlash if they had changed it mid campaign rather then right away. Same reason I think they showed all the Spartan2s wearing the mk6 gen2 Mock in the flashback cutscene when they should have been wearing the mk4 or mk5
makes sense, to be fair i find the H4-5 armor lacks the weight and feel of the other versions, never could bring myself to like it
Funny enough, there’s concept art for the MK IV armor in Halo 4. Also would have been cool to have a Halo 3 style Gen 1 MK VI as the Legendary reward and MK VI Mod as the Level 130 reward (or vice versa).
Was done because if laziness and engine
I still think they shouldn't have changed his armor at all (ditto for a lot of other designs), but trying to explain the change as "NANOMACHINES, SON" was the real mistake.
Where did they even try to pass it off as that?
Comics I think
They also said the new elites are a sub species from the moon of sanghelios. Which is retarded not only because they changed the arbiter but because sangheli weren't a space faring species pre covenant
I LOVE Chief’s new armor he got in this game. My only issue is that they never show him actually switch to it. Would’ve been pretty easy to add. It also bothers me that Master Chief isn’t wearing his Halo 4 armor when they flashback to that game in Infinite.
343 is just lazy when it comes to shit like that
@@Jjw338 Generally they’ve done fine. Visual mistakes especially when there’s been an art style change in a series isn’t uncommon. The only instances I can think of are this and in Infinite where they flashback to Halo 4 but he’s wearing his Gen 3 armor. I like the designs so it doesn’t bother me too much.
This puts a smile on my face.
No. Chief should have worn the Mark VI GEN1 through the entirety of H4 and Mark VI GEN2 MP in H5.
Mark VI gen 2 armor with Mark VI MOD helmet
@@MIAspartan No. Just the normal Mark VI GEN2.
The "Mod" helmet looks nothing like Mark VI and it's not pleasing to the eye either.
@MandoMarsi Disagree. If we're talking about the helmet specifically, it's definitely recognizable as chief. The MP version of Mark VI is an eye sore. Especially in Halo 5 with how the black details are colored in. The only saving grace for that armor are the gauntlets.
@@ceb5377 I meant the Mark VI GEN2 modell with the H5 MKVI GEN1 codpiece. They could have used Chief's color on it. The MP version's color isn't a factor.
l mean he should change armor with every game that's how it was being set up.
This is how they should have done it, give him a shiny new suit, give a quick explanation of why its superior, and have chief emotionally look at his old helmet or something. EASY
Masterchief would never be emotional over his armour though. He would be like, "new armour? Cool thanks."
This game wouldn't have done as bad as it did if just the aesthetics weren't outsourced and remained somewhat traditional to the series.
The opening cutscene was hit the hardest by a lot of these choices.
Love how this makes it seem like he liked the dent in his old armor's chest so much he decided he wanted one in his new suit too.
I think if they started with the old designs and then slowly introduced the newer designs it would have been a lot better.
holy shit this makes the new armour look like a special one made for big missions, gives a whole new appreciation for it
I like the nanotech idea but it should’ve looked like the Mark VI Gen 2, not an entirely different design
I always question how canon the whole nanotech nonsense is. Why couldnt it just be that 343 wanted to make Chief their own and made aesthetic changes to fit their new art style. They tried. People didnt like it. They went back to the original legacy look in Infinite. As far as im concerned, Chief only had 2 different armors over the course of the games. Halo 1's and Halo 2-Infinite.
@@KulbirSingh-wv7pm that’s what happens when 343 tries to retcon a retcon.
yeah but you know 343 just do anything to say "it's theirs"
@@KulbirSingh-wv7pmit's a half assed explanation by none other than Frank Connor. Thankfully his crappy story ideas and explanations are no longer gonna interject into the story
@@samiuddin7051that was only done because fan baclash
But the fanbase is very hypocritical
I pretend at some point after going into cryo when Halo 3 ended, for whatever reason, Chief woke up briefly, changed armor and went back to sleep. All i can do…
Halo Infinite haves the best MC suit.
100% agree. It's literally halo 3s mk6 on steroids. Love it
I disagree.
Halo 2 and 3s Mark VI was better.
@@JayPlusForerunnerBungies Mark VI had much more heroic proportions. Chief looked agile, fast and Hyper Lethal in it, not bulky slow and clunky.
@@DivineHellas how does Master chief look slow and clunky in his infinite armor? he looked beefy and strong and was fitting cause he was up against the banished and your argument could apply to the mark 5 armor cause that armor was known for being bulky and clunky, His og mark 6 armor as iconic as it is made him look wimpy and not emposing as he should be.
Bungie era mjolnir mk6 always looked nicer to me. Infinites mk6 is good, more form fitting than 4 & 5s, but the classic halo 2 & 3 seemed to be a better fit. Lower profile, more agile.
Whoever gave del Rio this position should've been court Marshalld. Running away goes against what UNSC stands for. Just look at Keyes and Cutter, even with an older ship and extremely out gunned, they knew that it was better to hold their ground and give everything they got than to run away. Infinity even has the advantage here for crying out loud
He's a newer Captain, not a Captain of the war. While he fought with them and everything, the UNSC post-Halo 3 is mostly in an era of peace and expansion. Cutter, meanwhile, went into cryosleep in the very beginning of the war, and woke up not knowing when it was. They have no clue what they're dealing with, and for the most part, the Infinity isn't a combat vessel, rather an exploration and discovery vessel.
@@Kisseyhersh123Bro, it's been 4 fucking years since Halo 3, things do not change that drastically that quickly. Del Rio spent the majority of his life fighting the Covenant. Also, the Infinity is a giant supercarrier that can hold up to a dozen frigates in its launch bays and was designed to be the UNSC's mobile headquarters in case Earth was ever destroyed by the Covenant. When they return to take Requiem back from the Covenant in Spartan Ops they literally just send the Infinity. No fleet or any other ships besides the frigates already in its launch bays. I don't know what logic you're using to where that somehow doesn't classify as a warship, but that's straight up incorrect.
@@Kisseyhersh123 dude, the infinity is literally the UNSC flagship. It's by far the strongest ship they have after halo 3. I admit that I know nothing about del Rio's lore, but if he was a rookie captain and put in charge of it, it just makes it worse
@@nagger8216Honestly H4 should have had a much greater timeskip. Like 10-15 years, if not 20 years even. Maybe then Del Rio acting out against Chief would make a lot more sense instead of him just looking like a raving lunatic instead, screaming like a manchild. Post-war Captains like Del Rio wouldn't have been used to conflict at all.
Personal I would have either done it when he was talking with Cortana before leaving on his own to fight the Dyedact or when the Librarian gave him the genetic upgrade to resist the Dyedacts weapon.
Only change I'd make is making the Mk VI(Mod) be either not scarred or just make it the Halo 5 version
Thing is, in their eyes, it was the same armor. They simply changed the entire art style of the series without a care in the world for the lore. Without even mentioning the flashbacks, the Forward Unto Dawn looks nothing like in Halo 3. They didn't even try to explain that, because in their eyes cosmetic changes were completely irrelevant.
The augmentations given by the librarian should’ve change the armor too.
Agreed
they where purely biological, that has nothing to do with his armor wtf, is this metroid or what
Nah, that plot point was stupid enough just to make Chief immune to Frank's DeviantArt OC. It shouldn't have been a thing period. Chief is and never will be the "chosen one".
Crazy how much more this game feels like Halo with the correct armor art style
I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one who was upset about this😂 I don’t mind the new redesigns I really don’t but the fact they were so lazy as to have all Spartans look exactly like chief does now what 20-30 years before that version of the armor came out with elites looking like they did in 4 and then to have a throw away line about cortona upgrading his suit when he still has damage and it looks exactly the new spartan armor always made 12 year old me mad
Never did like the armor for H4, that shield goes down and all you've got is huge weak points and sweet spots to really make sure these Spartans die a horrible death. At least Bungie had all the bases covered so the enemy had to work for those hits. 343's idea could've been a light armored scout variant, but even then they were already fast which just goes back to why? There's not even a cool factor for that downsized copy
Actually the H3 armor has tons of weak points and pointless pieces of armor (the hand areas not protecting knuckles, the neck/abdomen exposed, shoulders not making him move correctly and so on) the H4 design rectifies absolutely everything, making the master chief more agile and able to move, while protecting actual vital points (and yes the armored « trunks » in the previous suits is not relevant at all)
@@alcatraz3400U speak nonsense
@@DivineHellashes spot on
go look into the spartan armor and read about it
@@markss367
Most of the older MJOLNIR is filled with vulnerabilities, notably in the waist, arm joints and neck. Spartans are the infantry equivalent of a tank, so they deserve to be armored as such. I love the armor for 4, but I agree with the sentiment that it shouldn't have been swapped out so willy-nilly. Nanomachines doesn't explain much, nor do they do much explaining on Chief's magical ONI built suit in H5.
I like the idea that Johnson brought Chief a backup Mjolnir on the Forward Unto Dawn, and due to significant damage to the Mark VI, Cortana would replace it using machines while Chief is in cryosleep. Make it a customized set of armor by Johnson, almost like a final gift. After all, he knows what the ladies like. They should have just called it a Mk VII prototype.
Del Rio comes across even more insulting with Chief in his old armour
You know from chiefs POV he just set off installation 04b like 45 mins ago.
It’d be awesome if you could change the lighting to be darker in that scene until the doors open, which would reveal Chief’s new armor
still love the chief look of "you believe this shit?" to the Spartans
The problem with him changing armor mid game is that it messes up the final cutscene which is supposed to be the first time he takes his armor off in years. Not the second time. It’s better off if he has classic mark 6 the whole game, removes it in the final cutscene, and in halo 5 it shows his new armor
This. This is supposed to be the exact same suit that Chief has been running around in since Cairo Station in Halo 2.
@@VegetaLF7 yea
Cortana so thicc in this one 😩
Funny enough the genesong cut mod by SOI_17 did a actual armor transition cutscene in that mod where chief walks towards his new halo 4 armor
The h4/5 armour was the best for me as it was the most ergonomic. The designs before and after limited the natural range motion in the arms and legs, the best and most recent example of this logistical issue is probably the Halo TV series. The updates version takes things like that into consideration
For instance with the Halo 1-3 (& infinite) variant, to climb/mount something taller than yourself the shoulder pads would make contact with the vents on the chest plate( in the games this is solved with clipping) at best you could do a moderate "T-pose"
343 may get a lot of flack but the design id argue, makes more sense in the real world than the bungie rendition
I think an interesting way to handle it would have been to have the pre-Infinity section have Chief have noticeably lower combat performance, with the justification that the Mark VI suit is suffering a combination of pre-existing damage left over from the events of Halo 2 and 3 with Cortana being unable to perform any maintenance on the suit during the years Chief was in cryo. After making contact with the Infinity, there's a cutscene where he's issued a new Gen2 suit that brings him back up to full performance.
Idk what it is, it feels weird that the classic gen 1 Mk 6 still feels in place with Halo 4. I still don't mind the Gen 2 Mjolnir, but it would've been cool to see the campaign use both
I don't consider Halo 4 or anything after that to be halo, but OG Mark 6 looks really nice in this.
God seeing chief in mark 6 next to halo 4 cortana *chefs kiss*
He definitely needs a upgrade suit
I always imagined cortana was upgradiupgrading his armour as he slept via robotic arms or something... i imagined thats what chief meant when he said "you've been busy" she does have all the knowledge of humanity at her disposal, i think a bit of experimentation would be something she'd likely do to pass the time
Lasky and Del Rio look so goofy in their chef outfits
I always like how Cortana said the "I like more intel in my intel" on the speakers of the armor instead on just Chief mind for everyone to hear her
What's funny is that halo 4 and 5s multi-player version of the mark 6 looks more like the mark 6 LMAO.
How Chief's new armor introduction "REALLY REALLY" should have gone.
it shouldn't have. it should have stayed the same from 3
Yeah, they never should’ve changed his armor just for the sake of change.
OOOO the old one looks so good in this.
This is actually genius
This is better than Halo 4's "nano machines " but it should have given you the first few missions (before meeting infinity ) be purposely harder since your suit is old, damaged. Seeing prometheans and covvies pushes your suit even further and to the brink of failure. You meet with the infinity, and eventually youre brought to the spartan barracks where they then tell you theyve made some improvements while hes been gone and you give him us a CGI scene of his armor being taken off and his new one being applied.
Yeah i would have loved that. They could have gotten even that far to damage your armour so you cant sprint showing all the "sprint doesnt belong in halo" people that it actully is more enjoyable to have short bursts of Speed here and there.
But then again Halo 4 was just a failed CoD Copy they even admited later.
@@nocomment6421 Sprint as it was in halo 4 doesn't belong in Halo. You understand that you're constantly sprinting in the original trilogy, right? Literally you're constantly sprinting, but you can shoot, reload, throw grenades, etc.. Needing to put your gun down to sprint is a downgrade.
@@bable6314 i know. Halo was a run and gun game. But the thing is to have a change of escaping by small burst of sprint is a nice game mechanic, of course the other one can run after you but if he used it before he cant catch up. thats what made reach multiplay so fun.
Yeah, the first couple of missions in 4 should have had the old suit. After crashing down to Requiem (note, from Chief's point of view this is his second time surviving a reentry in this exact same armor in the span of a couple of weeks thanks to spending the past 4 years in cryo), the suit should have been damaged and systems failing while on approach to Infinity. Take some of the slower parts of level 2 and have the shields draining and charging or the HUD flickering on and off, the motion tracker going haywire. Something to show Chief's armor is fucked. When he gets to Infinity and they have a moment to resupply him, it's the perfect opportunity to outfit him with the brand new and shiny updated MJOLNIR armor, rather than trying to bullshit the idea that he's still wearing the same suit he's had since Cairo Station the entire time.
It would have been interesting if Chief's armor get's even more damaged on his way down. Cracked visors visible during gameplay from first person view. Flickering or discolored HUD, maybe even incorrect info at at time. Shield recharge either takes longer or won't go fully back up. No sprints and no equipment. It will coincide with the intro of the Promethean, making them more difficult to fight and more menacing. Have the Spartan 4s meet Chief and out performs him during gameplay. Having Chief on the back foot narratively would parallel his physicals vulnerability with Cortana's personal vulnerability. Then after getting to the Infinity, Chief get's the new armor. Then he get's sprints and intro to the equipment, then let the players out perform the Spartan 4s to show Chief still got it.
Someone why thinks the way I do!
Only thing I’d change otherwise is obscuring most of Chief until that last scene
I think the best way to introduce Chief's new suit was to have him wear the old one, but have no armor abilities or sprint. Then when he gets the new armor, it feels stronger as he gets the armor abilities and sprint, heck, make him feel abit weaker in the opening then upgrade him and make it FEEL different, even if its not. Wouldve felt alot more consistent and better overall.
Everyone talks about the Master Chiefs armor which yes it didn’t make sense and was too much, but holy shit did they fucke up the Marines soooo bad in this and then not a single one in 5.
I liked the halo 4 and 5 one for these games because it showed a more matured chief but the infinite was definitely the improvement we all needed
I feel like the Spartan IVs try to hard to look competent, especially Palmer. It comes naturally even through slow calculated movements for a II like Chief or Jorge. The older Gen Spartans almost look more relaxed, like they have nothing to prove because they've already done it. I think that's so much more badass.
PS: Particle cannonssSSSSSSSUH
It' was said Cortana changed the suit while he was in cryo by using nano boys that in the suit apparently
Basically they could have kept all the original assets from 3 for the beginning half of the game. Then switched over to the new stuff once Chief met up with the Infinity. That would have made way more sense. The engine sound of the Warthog bugged me, especially when my suspicions were right back then and it was in fact a 454 with a blower that was done for the sound. As well as changing the suspension from the leading/trailing arm suspension.
You can explain away the armor, but not the small arms and warthogs before Infinity showed up.
Yah, either they should have changed Chief's armor HERE without the scratch being present, or if we go ahead with the nanobots explanation for the new armor, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE THE FUCKING DENT ON THE CHEST!!!! My biggest issue is the dent, makes no sense that even if we suspend disbelief and agree she could change the armor with nanobots or something, it doesn't make sense for the dent to be there if it's been completly remade. If they wanted the dent then add it AFTER Chief landed on Requim to show a fall like that could damage the armor.
hahhaha yeah, im still confused whats the order of this changes. Specially that first scene from halo 4
Halo 4 ought to have been delayed until it was an Xbox One launch title. That way, there would have been none of the problems with the storyline of Spartan Ops, none of the cutscene issues with Halo 4 era Mjolnir being used to represent the fall of the colonies, and we may even have had Halo 3 era Cortana right up until the meetup with Infinity. Plus, there had to be some way to work the Flood into a campaign where we're fighting something designed to exterminate the Flood.
A lot of people give Halo 4 some hate but I liked it. It felt odd to me at first when I thought I was fighting the covenant still even after the war ended in Halo 3. But as I progressed through the missions it grew on me. And getting to pilot the Mantis was hella fun.
Honestly, starting in the best armour chief has worn, then changing to that mess would have been more annoying imo!
Halo 4 gave us crappy armour redesign but, dummy thick cortana redesign
I miss OG Mark VI armor
Regardless of what we may think fo Halo 4 overall, the very least 343 could've done is be consistent with Master Chief's armor transition. They could've stuck with the classic Mark VI armor for the 1st half, and then change into the new variant of Mark VI for the latter half. That would make more sense storywise.
Generally they have a good attention to detail with a lot of things especially with the lore. I think this just came from the art style shift. I enjoy the design but it still would’ve been nice to see a transition.
I actually like the suit chief has on in 4/5, problem I have with it is that it doesn’t feel like chief
I’m glad we have the art style back to the original in Halo infinite.
Man 😭 this is fucking beautiful! 🥺🥺 I love the Halo4 armor also but still beautiful
A kind of always thought he should have gotten His new armor halfway through the game
The kids I went to school with hated that they changed his armour. Of all the reasons I was bullied, this is what I hated the most
More believable than nanomachines explained only in external media instead of the game itself.
Apparently the reason for the Spartan-IIs all wearing the Chief’s Mark-IV Gen 1 MOD in the beginning… as well as all the sangheili subspecies being present… was due to time and budget constraints. Ironic when we consider what Microsoft is doing to 343i and Halo now…
nothing will ever fix this game to me
Del Rio was a prick. But that prick saved humanity by having the Infinity stationed where it needed to be, at Earth.
He was also right to order the decommission of Cortana.
Yeah this is definitely how it should had been done that way they could had made it look clean. Maybe add some new features to the hud. And added new abilities and stronger shield.
Made it compatible with new human armor mods.
And made chef walk faster and sprint longer. They could of had a cutscene of Laski saying come on chef before we head out on this next mission, let’s get you into some new gear.
He should've looked and it and walked away
I just figured cortana added armour upgrades to chiefs armour while sleeping.
Oh this would have been sick
Ugh. This would have been perfect. I still maintain that with little narrative tweaks here and there, Halo 4 could have been great, but there were sloppy choices made in the storytelling department that do less to make Halo 4 feel like a proper sequel to Halo 3 and more to make it feel like the storytellers for Halo 4 didn't even play Halo 3.
Chief should have kept his original mark 6 until the end of Halo 4. Taking it off at the end shows that he'll have new armor in the next game.
Yeah, it’s too bad the last cutscene is pre-rendered.
No melodrama? Yes!
I think chief’s armor redesign would have been much more well received if it was done like this, with a more believable story explanation than what we got.
Agreed. His halo4 suit is honestly one of the few 343 redesigns I don't have much of a problem with, but the fact it just is there like it was there the whole time is weird.
Halo 4's armor has grown on me over time, but I think my biggest problem with it is it makes cheif too tall. Like yeah spartans are meant to be taller but 4's armor has him towering over other characters. Compared to the bungie era where he's maybe a foot above most the human cast.
Actually what’s funny is that’s only in the last cutscene, which is pre-rendered. Any other time in 4, 5, and Infinite he’s the same height as other Spartans.
Idk why people hated 343s art style, I think it was great
Or they just dont explain it at all. The armor wasnt an issue until 343 decided to make the change in-universe. People could have easily brushed it off as an artstyle choice. Same goes for the elite and jackal designs.
The fleet suites are all white. Classic.
Literally I hate how to 343 said how the new armor appeared for people who don't know basically when Master Chief was asleep tiny little robots went into the Pod and changed his armor
So, you know what they forgot, it's new armor so it wouldn't have that big old battle scar that he had in his old armor. It would be shiny. He would be considered a shiny. The oldest shiny. With that armor cuz it's brand new
It’s not necessarily brand new it’s the same armor that he wore at the end of H3 when he was put into cryo just altered into a more modern suit by the nanotechnology in the MKVI
I loved Del Rio as a character. Someone who's seen some very very ugly parts of the Human/Covenant War, and isn't so keen on suckling on one famous hero's teet where he has seen so many die. I wish he appeared in Infinite, had a lot of sass at Chief for pretty much allowing Cortana to become a universal warlord, and through reluctance, eventually became a trusted friend of Chief (with or without a redeeming heroic sacrifice)
Personally, I’m just pissed at the fact that they went from calling that armor the Mark 7 to just an upgraded Mark 6
The genesong mod does this as well!
Really? Will have to check that out, never heard of that mod.
Halo 4 I absolutely loved and I really liked the new armour style, but I hated the way it was all just changed for no reason, same with the frigate that chief escaped the ark on, he was still on that ship in halo 4 and the entire ship looked different to what the frigates did in prior games
it’s like the movie Knight and Day:
“Cortana is a super advanced smart AI the only one ever cloned from Halsey’s own brain, I think she can change Chief’s armour without looking” 😏