Unlock HADERN & AXATANA Fast | Mortal Shell: Virtuous Cycle Guide/Tutorial

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  • @horelpit7
    @horelpit7 3 роки тому +83

    I've seen everyone make this fight so hard. I just jumped towards him with a heavy move and froze myself mid air, waited on him to hit me and I'd fuggemup on the drop. Both stages. Beat him my 2nd try.

    • @Unbr0k3nPr0mm1se
      @Unbr0k3nPr0mm1se 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, thats a somewhat well known cheese to, well, the whole game pretty much

    • @horelpit7
      @horelpit7 3 роки тому +6

      @@Unbr0k3nPr0mm1se well I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AND I'M NOT GOING TO STOP YELLING BC I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE I LOST THIS DISCUSSION!!

    • @Unbr0k3nPr0mm1se
      @Unbr0k3nPr0mm1se 3 роки тому +4

      @@horelpit7 you obviously won, dw

    • @arik2216
      @arik2216 3 роки тому +6

      Cheese is boring. I prefer having a skill to dodge, reaction and parry to just an easy linear approching. Died many times doesn't bother me. I get a prize from improving my reaction on parrying, dodging, countering make the fight feel more legit.
      This would improve my self for other game that also have similar battle.

    • @ghoul-corpse
      @ghoul-corpse 2 роки тому +1

      @@arik2216 this young man or girl is a true warrior! Wow that is very very impressive to really go for that my god!

  • @trevorstone9060
    @trevorstone9060 3 роки тому +17

    “Whoops, that happened. That’s not gonna happen again.”
    *a tiny number 1 pops up in the corner of the screen*

  • @qmass
    @qmass 3 роки тому +8

    ez cheese if anyone wants it: eredrim (don't need stam so HP is king) - hallowed sword - start charging a heavy then harden and let him come in and hit then release. repeat. I put a pod cast on because it takes a while :D

  • @zacharysuvee5842
    @zacharysuvee5842 3 роки тому +37

    You’re a god send man I started up a new save just for this dude so I appreciate your effort and timing of this video

    • @sharkydaninja1453
      @sharkydaninja1453 3 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @DaddyBoo69
      @DaddyBoo69 Рік тому

      QUESTION: you meant you started a new save for the story mode, correct?

  • @originalghoul3738
    @originalghoul3738 2 роки тому +5

    Use the mace heavy attack, when your stam is full and your harden, press the heavy attack when the animation has the mace getting ready to upper cut harden and hold it he will harden and then hit you then it will release, now you hit him once and should have full stam again then dodge back wait for the harden to reset and rinse and repeat you dont need any upgrade or anything and can get him, go through both times and never get hit, now there will be times when he dodges but its rare. And it dont matter if he gets on your side or almost behind you will still hit him, use this strat if you are having difficulty, see the problem with this game and Elden Ring is we are so used to getting in and whacking the mobs to death and not one hit move that is the difficulty. Its easy when you train your brain not to engage or the game will punish you because it wants you to fight like that remember.

  • @givemeverything
    @givemeverything 3 роки тому +6

    Thx for the guide about to beat harden and get the katana axe and him and here's the kicker I never beat mortal shells ur guide got me further then I ever been cause I thought u had to fight everyone lol after I beat harden and and get the weapon and his shell ill beat the game

  • @TameScarecrow
    @TameScarecrow 3 роки тому +8

    Wait I figured it out! You actually start a game using the Virtuous cycle choice! I only have 1 main file so idk if it loads the most recent, but it loads you in the “rogue like” dlc. Just go down the stairs and talk to the SG statue. It brings you back into the normal game with him sitting in the corner!

    • @Crenshaw60
      @Crenshaw60 2 роки тому

      How do you start with that?

    • @sr_cln
      @sr_cln 2 роки тому

      How do you activate the virtuous cycle?

  • @CorvetteTrev
    @CorvetteTrev 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks. The AX Version seems hard to fill abilities bar . It's tough not to like the hammer and chisel.

  • @maxmayem1684
    @maxmayem1684 2 роки тому

    Surprised to see you doing videos for this type of game. thx love the vid and your factorio series is the best

  • @SpacePlan10
    @SpacePlan10 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this. Your guide allowed me to make short work of him.

  • @baddestmofoalive
    @baddestmofoalive 3 роки тому +8

    I have no idea what this is, but imma watch it anyway
    Gravity to Deadness would be a great band name

  • @koala2732
    @koala2732 2 роки тому +5

    If you move the R from Hadern to after the a it becomes harden

  • @tragicjon6193
    @tragicjon6193 3 роки тому +12

    In short. to get the Axatana you need to earn the 4 base weapons first.

    • @deeznutscragmiar6968
      @deeznutscragmiar6968 3 роки тому

      But can i do it on my existing saved file on ps5?

    • @Nilaus
      @Nilaus  3 роки тому +2

      yes, if you have all unlocked then Hadern is waiting for you in the hub

    • @deeznutscragmiar6968
      @deeznutscragmiar6968 3 роки тому

      @@Nilaus oh Nevermind im such a goofball i just noticed him in the hub he is hard boss to beat i got to the 2
      Phase and got reamed he sure is tough

    • @deeznutscragmiar6968
      @deeznutscragmiar6968 3 роки тому

      @@Nilaus thank you for helping me brosky

    • @suverene2759
      @suverene2759 3 роки тому +2

      So, I have all the weapons of but still no Hadern?

  • @stan7816
    @stan7816 3 роки тому +11

    I'm confused by the harden ability. Why do you guys use it mid swing? His timing of it makes no sense at all, especially since it's like clockwork. Overall the fight look very simple due to his harden pause *every single time*.

    • @hayden3732
      @hayden3732 3 роки тому +2

      You probably already have your answer to this.
      But in the off chance that’s not the case.
      From what I remember, a hardened attack does more damage than non-hardened one.
      You can also double hit your opponents with a single attack.
      It’s better to have an attack queued up while you’re hardened instead of doing nothing.
      Example: Marty’s Blade
      The First Light is a cleave attack,Second Light is a Thrust,Same for Third
      First Heavy is a big hit coming from the top,Same for Second Move and Third Attack Cleave
      So it goes like this,Usually you have time to do 2 lights,then harden while having the Cleave heavy queued up, when Harden breaks you’ll land that heavy and take no damage.

  • @originalghoul3738
    @originalghoul3738 2 роки тому

    I get the mace and use that throughout but never upgrade until you get the Axatana save the acid that way you will kill everything almost instantly.

  • @christiancoronado4072
    @christiancoronado4072 3 роки тому +12

    How do I get that I'm having a bit of a problem I'm playing mortal shell and I've also got all the weapons but for some reason I don't see hadern am I doing something wrong this is an awesome guide I'm just wondering how you are able to get hadern to show?

    • @diesorgons7035
      @diesorgons7035 2 роки тому +4

      Im probably a little late but u have to install the virtous cycle dlc

    • @liammeissner6782
      @liammeissner6782 2 роки тому

      @@diesorgons7035 is it free?

    • @fhvawrvc8260
      @fhvawrvc8260 2 роки тому

      @@liammeissner6782 it's 7 pounds

  • @khertis3739
    @khertis3739 3 роки тому +10

    So does this have to be done in a new game? I'm partway through on my primary save, and I have all the weapons unlocked. The DLC is installed, but Hadern is not sitting there for me.

    • @Cruelty07
      @Cruelty07 3 роки тому +2

      You have to kill all 3 hadern bosses first. The ones to unlock the weapons then he will be sitting there. If he is not sitting there for you then maybe your game is just bugged

    • @dieguteschnittebitte6734
      @dieguteschnittebitte6734 3 роки тому +3

      I had the same problem
      I just restarted my game and that fixed it

    • @Crenshaw60
      @Crenshaw60 2 роки тому

      @@dieguteschnittebitte6734 did you delete it and reinstall or or just close it down ?

  • @xminireezx4541
    @xminireezx4541 Рік тому

    Love how using the the special move with this weapon completely glitches the switch version and makes you need to hard reset

  • @TameScarecrow
    @TameScarecrow 3 роки тому +3

    I see the virtuous cycle as an option on the main menu. Do I need to start this for the new shell and weapon? I have the others and he isn’t appearing. This game is kicking my butt and I don’t want to start over T-T

  • @JonathanRodriguez-wt8qo
    @JonathanRodriguez-wt8qo 3 місяці тому +1

    Im in Nintendo and it was soo glitched that he faught in slow motion and because of that I got it first try but his hp was insane 😅

  • @cronosxvl8768
    @cronosxvl8768 3 роки тому +2

    I can't play rotten autumn music dlc anymore, the option in the sound settings it's locked :(

  • @sergeant1224
    @sergeant1224 3 роки тому +1

    Btw martyrs blade running attack is extremely easy to parry

    • @Nilaus
      @Nilaus  3 роки тому

      I don't have the Seal, so cannot parry

  • @koala2732
    @koala2732 2 роки тому +1

    Hammer and chisel is OP

  • @noone6812
    @noone6812 2 роки тому

    Good guide.

  • @ashleyhardy223
    @ashleyhardy223 2 роки тому +1

    My way of winning was looking at the mace and when he hardens wait and counter harden infront of him it allows a massive combo and his cooldowm is the same as yours

  • @tormgart5137
    @tormgart5137 3 роки тому +6

    His 4th fight didnt appeard for me after i beat the first 3 ones in the hub ?
    What should i do now ?

    • @akuinhsieh9485
      @akuinhsieh9485 3 роки тому

      did you purchase the new dlc?

    • @akuinhsieh9485
      @akuinhsieh9485 3 роки тому

      and make sure that you need a new save file.

    • @ironrose6
      @ironrose6 3 роки тому +2

      You do not need a new save file. I only have one save file and he was there for me. You gotta download the dlc, start your game, close the game to restart it, and load your save file. If you've done this and you've beaten Hadern the other three times, he'll be there. For good measure, you can just enter the virtuous cycle with the twin sister, then go downstairs and use the petrified SG to go back to the main game and Hadern will definitely be sitting there. If he's not, your game is borked.

  • @codyparsons4375
    @codyparsons4375 2 роки тому

    Lemme see if I can get that done ⚔😈

  • @Agent.J
    @Agent.J 3 роки тому +3

    hey nilaus, would you start a no man's sky series? the game is pretty good now.

  • @deo192
    @deo192 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @duncanmackinlay4919
    @duncanmackinlay4919 17 днів тому

    4 years later and I’m having a harder time with this boss then some elden Ring bosses

  • @koala2732
    @koala2732 2 роки тому +2

    I would prefer hammer and chisel for boss fight

  • @Rexln
    @Rexln 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, do i must do the same as yours step by step or not at all to trigger hadern in the tower? Because i didn't see him litteraly all this time, not at all. Does it required to buy an DLC first to trigger it?
    Edit : i already had that 3 weapon and 3 vessel

    • @wolfcrazed0174
      @wolfcrazed0174 2 місяці тому

      Hadern and his weapon require either the Virtuous Cycle DLC or the Enhanced Edition version of the game.

  • @mercytms4145
    @mercytms4145 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the guide g. Owned mortal shell but never played it, redownloaded due to me hearing the dlc was free. Need that axatana though.

  • @kokroucz
    @kokroucz 2 місяці тому

    2 years after release of DLC and axekatana is still bugged. I have MShell on pc ps4 and switch and all of them are bugged

  • @Roninkenji77
    @Roninkenji77 3 роки тому +2

    I can confirm it works no need to start a new game after defeating hadern 3 times return to the tower if he is not there just return to the main menue and then load your game after that he should appear in the tower worked for me.

    • @flatmarssociety5707
      @flatmarssociety5707 2 роки тому +1

      Think people are getting confused because you need the dlc to get it

    • @defcon665h9
      @defcon665h9 2 роки тому

      Ive already beat the game before dlc and beat him twice on ng+ yet he won’t show up

    • @flatmarssociety5707
      @flatmarssociety5707 2 роки тому +1

      @@defcon665h9 if you don't hace the dlc he won't show up it's dlc

    • @defcon665h9
      @defcon665h9 2 роки тому

      @@flatmarssociety5707 I bought the dlc I had to uninstall the game reinstall and then he finally showed up

  • @bustedrims_Jr
    @bustedrims_Jr Рік тому

    Um, after speaking to him, for me, the weapon never appeared. I can't equipped it. Is it a bug or something?

  • @clo118
    @clo118 2 роки тому

    Nice. Thx a lot

  • @hydrainarms3135
    @hydrainarms3135 2 роки тому

    I recommend this method is for advanced players nonetheless excellent video mate it talking and playing at the same time during boss battles it deserves a sub.
    BTW I got all weapons all shells and Hades still hasn't showed up what am I doing wrong

    • @colt4505
      @colt4505 2 роки тому

      You don't have the DLC lol

    • @hydrainarms3135
      @hydrainarms3135 2 роки тому

      @@colt4505 lmao well that explains it all.
      Thanks mate

  • @Magnus3008M
    @Magnus3008M Рік тому

    I know im late but is this unlocked right after u defeat the 3 other fights and then ofc you need to have the dlc?

  • @Gracericon
    @Gracericon 2 роки тому

    Literally did it on my first try without even losing my shell, the fight is super easy and I didn't need to go defensive

  • @dawn_onyoutube5199
    @dawn_onyoutube5199 Рік тому

    I can't see him even if I beat all the other guys am I missing something?

  • @Crenshaw60
    @Crenshaw60 2 роки тому

    I don’t get it ? I killed the previous bosses and haden isn’t sitting there when I got back to see him , how do I do this?

  • @edwards31886
    @edwards31886 2 роки тому

    Omg just got harden and he’s so much better when it comes to he’s axe and sword defo can do more damage defo worth the extra DLC pay 😃😃😃

  • @MartinoHilario
    @MartinoHilario 4 місяці тому

    Hoops I did it again.😊

  • @uruma912
    @uruma912 2 роки тому

    I've gotten all the weapons but he never appeared there

  • @kibblenackle431
    @kibblenackle431 3 роки тому +1

    To make it easier use the martyr blade

  • @OGPEEPSYT
    @OGPEEPSYT 2 роки тому

    I have all the weapons unlocked but his shell is not there

  • @dz0740
    @dz0740 3 роки тому +1

    After rebooting game after playing and beating it last year...don’t understand how I ever beat this game in the first place...considering my char after pressing circle just refuses to dodge? I’m not understanding wtf is going on...I don’t remember the combat being so clunky as the combat was one of the main draws for me...did they change something? Bc i feel like my guy weighs 1000000 pounds where the Hadern is playing with bloodborne rules...

    • @dz0740
      @dz0740 3 роки тому +1

      I can’t even fucking kill grisha bc of this, and his moves are so easily telegraphed...at first I thought I was just running out of Stam and had to get used to the combat again, but nope, input is just to slow..sucks bc the game has so much potential but I’m not doing this shit lol...I’ll go back to souls to fill this desire..🤷‍♂️

  • @noivern4346
    @noivern4346 Рік тому

    I reinstalled the game and started playing again recently, I had all the weapons and he wasn't showing up, turns out I forgot to reinstall the DLC as well lol.

  • @sikevillain
    @sikevillain 3 роки тому +4

    So do you have to start a new save or can you ng+ to get hadern and ax katana?

    • @victorneyoy
      @victorneyoy 3 роки тому

      i did watch a video that you have to start a new game to unlock the tvc i did that then i loaded my ngplus and then i can join tvc i dont know how does that work with the new shell tho
      --edit-- just checked, as i already have all weapons unlocked on ngplus hadern is sitting there.

    • @menaceiwill1
      @menaceiwill1 3 роки тому +1

      @@victorneyoy I'm on ng+ and done the boss fights fir the weapons and he ain't there. And I have them all plus 25 weapons, I really don't want too start again

    • @victorneyoy
      @victorneyoy 3 роки тому +1

      @@menaceiwill1 try starting a new game and activate the cicle thing and then check your new game plus. i dont know if its mandatory to do that so the dlc content is available for new game plus saves i didnt check out that on my new game plus before doing the new game thing first

  • @ten_blbec_1244
    @ten_blbec_1244 Рік тому

    thanks for this video but i just want to ask i have all base weapons unlocked and last i need is the axetana can i get it in base game or do i have to need an edition?

  • @tylershort1753
    @tylershort1753 2 роки тому

    Bro he didn’t even pop up on mine. I followed every step this guy made after creating a new account, and he didn’t pop up anywhere in my tower

  • @mr.silhouette6252
    @mr.silhouette6252 2 роки тому

    Can you do this on new game + or does have to be all new save?

  • @andreasdersch76
    @andreasdersch76 6 місяців тому

    Very good game

  • @tomtheripper666
    @tomtheripper666 2 роки тому

    How come my haedern isn't there? Do I not have the dlc downloaded?

  • @unchained-aztek5971
    @unchained-aztek5971 Рік тому

    I followed your guide and killed the three haderns and didnt find him in the tower

  • @blaynelevy6781
    @blaynelevy6781 2 роки тому

    I've already beater Harden, but I swapped out of his shell to upgrade someone else and now I can't find his shell what gives where can I find him to switch back to him

    • @fajarmentari9352
      @fajarmentari9352 2 роки тому

      Would like to know this too. Have you figured it out yet.?

    • @blaynelevy6781
      @blaynelevy6781 2 роки тому

      @@fajarmentari9352 already figured it out, what I can't figure out is why it won't let me use him or the axekatana in the challenge realm.

    • @mr.leroysmith7012
      @mr.leroysmith7012 Рік тому

      @@blaynelevy6781 how to use the shell bsck? and the axkatana is not beside him when i beat him?

  • @r.aetherr
    @r.aetherr Рік тому

    hadern isnt there for me does anyone know why

  • @karosiukas
    @karosiukas Рік тому

    my hadern got glitched and stuck so it was easy to get the molten mace

  • @stevethomas8308
    @stevethomas8308 2 роки тому

    Do I need the dlc for this?

  • @HistoricalConflict
    @HistoricalConflict 3 роки тому

    how do you activate the new expansion?

    • @ridgebackgoofy3019
      @ridgebackgoofy3019 3 роки тому

      No clue too. Redownloaded game and no dice. Epic Games

    • @hristobibov
      @hristobibov 3 роки тому +2

      @@ridgebackgoofy3019 just go to the main hub/temple in game and interact with the crow-thing statue

    • @JERSEYJOKER_
      @JERSEYJOKER_ 3 роки тому

      @@hristobibov issue is for some people the statue is not showing up at all even having the dlc installed. I put the addon in my Library, when I go check it says installed but when I go to the spot where statue supposed to be, there's nothing there

  • @51lav
    @51lav 3 роки тому

    I just started the game first time. I got all the weapons but he didn't show up. I had to return to the main menu to get him to appear.

    • @ReneAzy
      @ReneAzy 2 роки тому

      But what if you have game pass on Xbox the edition or do I need to purchase the dlc to have it

  • @qgshotzbowen5927
    @qgshotzbowen5927 3 роки тому

    Great video I got the weapon and new shell. Is anyone experiencing a glitch during the new weapon special

    • @qgshotzbowen5927
      @qgshotzbowen5927 3 роки тому

      Just wondering because it keeps getting me killed

  • @offset328
    @offset328 2 роки тому +1

    Your tripping you literally have to buy it it’s 8$

  • @Bry_is_the_name
    @Bry_is_the_name Рік тому +1

    Is it dlc?

  • @mistahslugg
    @mistahslugg 3 роки тому

    how do you access the axatana and hadern from the cycles menu though, they are grayed out

    • @nikolasperez7745
      @nikolasperez7745 3 роки тому +1

      Gotta get the runic familiarity for them.

    • @diablorrrojo5156
      @diablorrrojo5156 3 роки тому +1

      I had to use each shell plus each weapon, and touch a pillar with each to unlock him and the weapon

  • @milanesamorales7625
    @milanesamorales7625 2 роки тому

    version?

  • @danielstanlyraj8963
    @danielstanlyraj8963 Рік тому

    I beat him on my first try with eredrim

  • @j.cbeast9247
    @j.cbeast9247 3 роки тому

    I swapped weapons and now can't get the axatana back he disappeared any help?

    • @Nilaus
      @Nilaus  3 роки тому

      you can pick it up again from the wall behind Hadern

    • @j.cbeast9247
      @j.cbeast9247 3 роки тому

      @@Nilaus all of it disappeared I finally got him to load in tho thank you

  • @Glitch0Angel
    @Glitch0Angel 3 роки тому

    Does upgrading your weapon help with this fight or does he scale?

    • @quinn8599
      @quinn8599 3 роки тому

      Upgrade your weapon. He scales with your cycle

    • @Glitch0Angel
      @Glitch0Angel 2 роки тому

      @@quinn8599 I did it first cycle and on my second try, I kinda just poked him to death

    • @quinn8599
      @quinn8599 2 роки тому

      @@Glitch0Angel beautiful gamer moment

  • @Nexus-xb2um
    @Nexus-xb2um 2 роки тому

    You can just parry the shit out of hadern with hammer and chisel

  • @trinamariemendez85
    @trinamariemendez85 2 роки тому +1

    Please reply but I did everything you did but the guy at the end didn't show what do I do now

    • @frost1842
      @frost1842 2 роки тому

      Do you have the dlc?

    • @trinamariemendez85
      @trinamariemendez85 2 роки тому

      @@frost1842 whats a dlc

    • @frost1842
      @frost1842 2 роки тому

      @@trinamariemendez85 Virtuous Cycle dlc

    • @trinamariemendez85
      @trinamariemendez85 2 роки тому

      @@frost1842 no I dont got that

    • @frost1842
      @frost1842 2 роки тому

      @@trinamariemendez85 if you want the guy that you mention (Hadern) show, you must have the dlc

  • @alisalih2161
    @alisalih2161 3 роки тому

    How can I appear Axatana after changing to another weapon

  • @LotusKai1992
    @LotusKai1992 3 роки тому

    Just beat Hadern and got the Axatana on my first try against him!

  • @metcha4263
    @metcha4263 2 роки тому +1

    I did it all but hadern is not there what should ı do?

    • @frost1842
      @frost1842 2 роки тому

      Do you have the dlc?

    • @metcha4263
      @metcha4263 2 роки тому

      @@frost1842 yes enchanted edition

    • @frost1842
      @frost1842 2 роки тому

      @@metcha4263 Hadern should be in Fulgrim base (the 1st base) after you get all weapons(you don't have to get all shells just the weapons), but if he's not there then sorry i have to say you have to restart the game from the beginning to get him.

    • @metcha4263
      @metcha4263 2 роки тому

      @@frost1842 should I beat hadern in prologue

    • @frost1842
      @frost1842 2 роки тому +1

      @@metcha4263 no, you don't have to beat him just follow the story like you play for the 1st time

  • @harrykuan2299
    @harrykuan2299 2 роки тому

    Hadern isn't there for me when fighting the axe katakana

  • @L10N.
    @L10N. 3 роки тому

    How did you get hadern to spawn? I KILLED AND FINISHED THE WHOLE GAME TWICE GOT EVERYTHING AND HE IS NOT FUCKING THERE

  • @hl2_enjoyer.
    @hl2_enjoyer. 2 роки тому

    Hadern is really easy boss fight.

  • @Nexus-xb2um
    @Nexus-xb2um 2 роки тому

    Easy win

  • @jakevuckturd1201
    @jakevuckturd1201 3 роки тому +1

    Does this actually need to be 30 minutes long? Just give me a quick rundown of what I need to do, don't make me watch you play the whole game

    • @ihmpall
      @ihmpall 3 роки тому +4

      You expect him to make a specific video yet you’re too lazy to forward to the part you wanna watch. Whiner.

    • @nickspencer9018
      @nickspencer9018 3 роки тому +3

      God, the entitlement and laziness in this comment! I bet you're so fun at parties. No one is forcing you to watch this video.

    • @FreakinFlameGaming
      @FreakinFlameGaming 2 роки тому

      It's a complete guide and useful information. Glad this guide still exists

  • @達和死
    @達和死 5 місяців тому

    I'm having trouble, but the Axatana doesn't know what to do with it

  • @johnlingerie6672
    @johnlingerie6672 2 роки тому

    So I have a slight issue with the Axatana, the special move sometimes does like 30 damage sometimes instakills, I have no idea why. Does anyone else have any helpful information in this regard?