Take note of that there were 2 box trucks in the passing lane. The first one like may been able to pass just before the red lights came on. This truck would have blocked the view of the bus to the motorist behind it. About every vehicle pulled over the cop pulled over was either on right side or behind the box trucks, so they would not have been able to see the school bus. Notice that neither of the box trucks were pulled over. This video would have also served as evidence that those vehicles couldn't see the school bus.
Thats all you have to say, just bitching about the video quality. You must be a kid that has no life at all. You watch a video about the police trying to keep our children safe and all you can do is bitch.
|I suspect there are loads of things you can't wrap your head around. Stay safe, keep up with your reading and writing practice, come back to youtube when you are able to comment without embarassing yourself.
Great educational video. I've visited the states many times, and had always thought that you just had to stop behind a stopped school bus - I didn't realise that traffic on both sides of the road were obliged to stop. You've just saved me a ticket or worse. Thanks guys :)
Retired from Law enforcement, I remember occasionally doing these school bus details but never using 4 patrol cars. We were lucky if we could free up 1 patrol car. This is just wow.
Definetley count yourself lucky it depends on what state you are in what the ticket is but I do know it can range from $400 to over $1000 plus points on your license
If there is a median then only the direction the bus is stopped on has to stop. Median here means a boundary wall or grass median, not just a left turn lane.
As a former school bus driver this happened to me many times. Fortunately none of my kids were hurt. One did go home with a friend and ir happened. I saw her the next year limping to my bus to repeat the grade because her recovery time took so long.
mindlessgonzo With the Department low funds they had to utilized the potato camera. but after all those traffic stops now they can afford a better camera hopefully in the future 1080p will be utilizes.
Afford a better camera? Every one of those cops has a better camera in their pocket, clipped to their shirt, and mounted on their dashboard. There is simply no excuse for this terrible level of video quality.
I still remember when some scumbag passed our school bus after the yellow lights turned to red for a while and the bus laying on the horn and that mother F'er just kept on coming as they didn't give a crap. Then, right after they passed I looked back and there was a cop right behind the bus and the light came on. I just started laughing. That made my week.
Not even joking, i almost got hit by a passing car from a school bus. If i hadent forgotten my lunch on the counter of my kitchen, i would have been seconds early and probably have been hit that fateful day no joke i was scared too
I can't remember a school day, when I was on the job, where someone failed to yield to the flashing red lights of a school bus dropping off or picking up kids. Many a cites were issued for that single offense and hopefully saved some child's life.
First time violations deserve a fine. Second time violators deserve a fine and suspension of license until they take and pass a written test and a driving test again.
As far as I can tell, the "rest of us" are the countries where school children ride public transport instead and traffic doesn't have to stop whatsoever for those transportation vehicle. So these "retarded rules" are keeping the children alive.
How so? I really want to find out why you think such a thing. Forcing traffic to stop so children can cross safely is surely more safe than just throwing them off the vehicle and letting them fend for themselves.
Telling children that when the bus is stopped, all traffic should be stopped as well. There's a reason school bus operators don't let the kids cross until the driver can tell all drivers have stopped. You're not making much sense.
No Commentz You should do as your name implies and make no comments. You referred to America as a third world country.... Either you have no idea what a third world country actually is, or you're incredibly fucking stupid. I hope it's not the later of the two.
Youmadbro962...pass a school bus 🚌 unloading my precious grandkids..and you you will have to answer to one pissed off old man with an ice pick aimed at the base of your 💀. Have a pleasant day.
For all you saying the bus stopped too fast--the video is sped up 2x. So really it didn't stop all that fast and traffic is not going nearly as fast as it appears. Not to mention traffic just kept going even after police started swarming. The law is the law, should they move the bus stops to a side street? Yes, probably, but that doesn't give you the right to ignore traffic laws. There may have been one or two innocent drivers here but the majority were straight up breaking the law.
bushpilot223 I used to live in this area for about 20 years it is westland Michigan right on ford road just east of hix rd. the traffic does go that fast. I guarentee you it is not sped up. westland pd is loaded with a bunch of corrupt cops who care for nothing more than money. rookie cops have left Westland to join the police force in neighboring cities for the way WPD treats people.
some states no longer require you to stop if you are on the other side of the street because kids are not allowed to cross anyways. The drivers are supposed to stop on the side of the street where the kids house is.
I live in a city where school zones are regularly ignored when their are hoards of kids on either side of the street. People are passing me doing anywhere from 30-40 mph. It gets old, and I'm glad the laws are being enforced somewhere if not here.
I worked as a school bus driver and had a near miss. I was stopped on a two way street and a corvette was going to blow past the stop sign and run the child over. Thanks to the training I had received I had stopped at an angle that allowed me to pull out and block the car, this protecting the child. Glad the officers are saving lives.
One of the things I learned when I moved from Missouri to Kansas was a small but important difference in how school bus signals are treated. In Missouri, vehicles are not required to stop when you are traveling the opposite direction of a school bus on a highway containing four or more lanes of traffic. In fact, and this is from page 43 of the Missouri Driver's Guide, _No driver of a school bus shall take on or discharge passengers at any location upon a highway consisting of four or more lanes of traffic, whether or not divided by a median or barrier, in such a manner as to require the passengers to cross more than two lanes of traffic._ For comparison, page 12 of the Kansas Driving Handbook states: _You must stop when meeting or overtaking a school bus, church bus or day care bus that is stopped to pick up or let off children. You must remain stopped until the STOP signal is retracted and the red lights are turned off. Traffic approaching a school bus in the opposing roadway of a divided highway is not required to stop._ A subtle but distinct difference. Read your state's handbook. They're free, and usually online.
Florida is different. Unless there is a raised or grass median or marked median of a certain width (center turn lane) you have to stop. Even if it's six lanes. There is a video similar to this from Pasco County on a bigger hwy. Cops pulled out like the president was coming and blocked across the highway.
In Florida it’s more of a precaution just in case a child runs across the road. The bus goes down the street one way then turns around and goes back to pick up children on the other side. So if the road doesn’t have a raised median both sides must stop no matter the size of the road.
I'll be honest this confused me. In Ohio, if theres 4 lanes of traffic, it's perfectly legal for oncoming traffic to keep going while the school bus is stopped. Reason being it's also illegal to have kids cross more than one lane.
Joe Podskalan... you are correct. This was a odd area to try and have kids cross that big of a road. Turn the bus around and pick up or drop them off on whatever side they need to be on. I would have fought this ticket if it was for me and as a parent I would be pissed off if the school wanted my kids to cross a 4 lane road to get on a bus
Lightsaber360 oh ok. Maybe that's what the law is here too. I honestly think that part of the problem is that people (like myself) aren't informed of what the actual law is. It seems like most of the time here some stop and some don't and nobody really knows what to do.
Well done the Police Dept of the City of Westland, as an ex bus driver, I've seen too many Children nearly killed by uncaring Drivers, so a big Well Done from Scotland, everyone's Child must be important to us all
NICE GOING! I remember stopping behind a school bus a few months ago. Some hothead behind me honked, then swerved around me, and sped (And I mean SPED!) past me and the bus, flipped us the finger and (I thought) continued down the road. What he didn't notice was, in the cars facing the opposite way as us, was an Arvada PD motorcycle cop. (he was behind the First car facing the opposite way that also stopped for the bus). The cop went after him and pulled him over. After the bus continued on, I saw the cop standing next to the guy's car. I just tapped my horn in approval to the cop and gave him a thumb's up.
I had a guy honk at me repeatedly for waiting for pedestrians (school children) in the crosswalk. There were a lot of kids, so the wait was just unbearable to him. He got out of his truck so that he could approach me and threaten me, but some of the other drivers around told him to get back in his truck, and he did.
I want to give all these cops a great big round of applause and thank you for doing such a Wonderful job!!! As a retired school bus driver I cant even count how many times in my 15yrs driving I have seen/reported people for blowing my lights and nothing was ever done to get to see you officers doing this puts a smile on my face and warms my heart!!! Thank You So Very Much!!!!
Really?? It's 2017 and even the crappiest cell phone can produce 720 resolution or more. To see something uploaded since 2015 in a native resolution below 720 boggles the mind, and yours is capped at *240*??? I know that PDs are strapped for cash, but whoever uploaded this was strapped for skill, too!
It's probably why they pulled this ridiculous sting operation. Because the department needed to afford a better camera that didn't come out of a fucking cereal box. I don't think it's fair your expected to stop for a school bus when it's a huge 4 lane road. Some drivers might not even notice the bus was even there.
Most jurisdictions these tickets would all be thrown out. Law states that on a four lane highway (which this is) cars traveling in the same direction as the bus MUST STOP (as they did). However, traffic traveling in the opposite direction is NOT required to stop (which they didn't). Therefore, all tickets issued should be fought and tossed. Look here: www.bellinghamherald.com/news/traffic/rules-of-the-road/article57151848.html I'm just sayin'.
Here in Washington ...those drivers did nothing illegal ..2 lanes each direction ..equals not stopping (3) The driver of a vehicle upon a highway with three or more marked traffic lanes need not stop upon meeting a school bus which is proceeding in the opposite direction and is stopped for the purpose of receiving or discharging school children.RCW 46.61.370
How do you manage to look up the exact law and fuck up reading comprehension that badly? 1) How many directional lanes must a highway have to be exempt from stopping? Three. 2) How many directional lanes does this highway have? That's right, you said it yourself. TWO. Therefore, you still need to stop.
You do realize the "three" in that sentence refers to three DIRECTIONAL lanes, as I said? Three each direction. That's SIX lanes, total. (You know, 3+3=6). This highway has two DIRECTIONAL lanes. How do I come up with that conclusion? It's simple. How the fuck do you expect there to be three total lanes on a road? Each side gets 1.5 lanes? Is there a place in Washington that has tons of half-size cars that only take up one lane, or is there motorcycle lanes everywhere? Three lanes means three lanes a direction.
+thedarkfreak ....the law does not specify that the, "three or more lanes" ALL have to be going the same direction. AND BTW, this is a FIVE lane road, two each way and a center turn. It actually ILLEGAL for the driver to allow the children to cross there. I do believe YOU are the one that lacks, "reading comprehension"! "keep the faith people, and keep on keeping on"
Who in their right mind doesn't teach their children how to safely cross the road? Who in their right mind doesn't park a school bus inside the school premises? Christ, American infrastructure is sorely lacking!
The thing about children is, they're stupid and irresponsible. You can teach them all about safety and whatnot but doesn't mean they're going to listen and/or apply what they've be taught. Adults need to be responsible drivers, as they're the ones in control of the big metal machine that can kill children and other adults pretty easily. Human life is more important than someone getting to their destination 5 minutes earlier.
Hence why the school bus should drop off children inside the grounds. That said, we teach our children how to cross roads properly from a very early age, and they seem to remember how to cross roads properly.
So when the kids are going home the bus should just take them from the school door to the edge of the school grounds and then they should just walk the rest of the way home????
Keep the good work up. Anyone who goes around a school bus when kids are getting off should be arrested and have their DL taken away and given a 10g fine.
seriously. wtf. Even stopping in the right lane would be reasonable, but this? And why does traffic on the other side of the road need to stop, Do they expect the kids to cross a 4 lane road with out a crosswalk? they should know what side of the street the bus is stopping.
Robert McConnell makes sense for a 2 lane road, but not a 4 lane. I just looked it up, and the first thing on google is this "You must remain stopped as long as the red lights flash or the stop arm is out. The only exception to this is where you are approaching the bus from the opposite direction on a road with at least two lanes in each direction." Maybe its different in Michigan, but it seems to me it would be safer to teach kids to use cross walks. If a few cars on the opposite side of the road stop in the right lane, the kids will think its safe to cross, but then some asshole not paying attention might try to go around the stopped cars to the left, not seeing the kids crossing.
I'm certainly for tough enforcement for school bus/ zone violations, but it appears the bus did not signal it's intention to drop kids off until it was nearly stopped, and it seems cops began to move to pull people over when the lights on the bus were flashing yellow, not red. So, as much as I want people who pass a stopped school bus to be given large punishments, illegally ticketing people and not following proper protocol when operating a school bus just awful and another way for these corrupt cops to hand out tickets.
I remember on my bus in high school a car passed on the opposite side of the road so our bus driver went ham on the horn and he flipped the bus off, panning his gesture across the vehicle's span. Bad idea. Immediately, without saying anything, everyone on the bus stuck their arms out and that man got simultaneously flipped off by 70 high school kids that day. It was beautiful.
I plan to make bumper stickers sometime soon that say “When you see kids getting on/off the school bus... PRESS YOUR BRAKE!” I might even use that in future videos...🤓
"But but but I have a busy schedule that only exists in my mind, same as the consequences if I don't follow my imaginary schedule that makes me look important to everyone. I can't stop for the school bus. Can I talk to your manager, supervisor, or whatever they are called pleassssse?"
Keith Hobbs School buses have yellow lights on the back and front that flash before it comes to a stop warning you before it happens, then the lights turn red at a big red stop sign comes out which also has its own flashing lights. If you fail to see those things, you're not paying attention and if you can't stop in time that means you're speeding or following too closely.
I guess I never realized how many people don't know what entrapment is. How is this entrapment if they don't even see the officers? Entrapment is when the officer's actions cause them to commit the crime.
People need to pay attention to traffic around them, if I see a school bus I prepare to slow down when lights are amber. I pay attention to whats going on beyond the vehicle in front of me.
I don't know... seems a bit unreasonable lol. Wide ass road, bus stops on the opposite side and I'm expected to slam on the brakes when I notice there's a bus over there with a small light lit up pulled over? They didn't give that first few people much time to even react.
Yeah, when I clicked on this I was thinking it was going to be on a two-lane road with people like this moron from up my way: ua-cam.com/video/1UTM40K53K8/v-deo.html Instead they show a five lane main rroute goo.gl/maps/bb26A42FsBm I wouldn't have stopped either, that's nonsense. Here in Ohio oncoming traffic does not have to stop on a four-lane road, which is the way it should be.
If there's a median in between you don't have to stop, at least where I live that's the rule. The kid's need to cross the road, it's much safer for them to cross with the bus there holding traffic then it is to cross on their own after it leaves. Most buses have yellow flashing lights that come on a little bit before they actually stop to warn you they are stopping along with a stop sign that pops out.
If it's more than two, maybe three lanes kids just plain shouldn't be crossing in the middle of the block. This is a five lane road, it's not pedestrian friendly. Cross at the designated crosswalks.
Small light? Bus is bright yellow, has two large red flashing lights on the top, and a stop sign on the side with two more flashing red lights. Also, it's called paying attention to your driving! As for the kids, tell a 5 year old to only cross at the crosswalk when they think they're going to miss the bus, or when their super bright parent has decided to park across the street, and the child can see them. It's the law, STOP for the school bus!!!!
Im aussie so this is confusing...Nothing happened. In OZ bus lights come on, bus pulls over, and you move(if you can) to the other lane...hence why they have two lanes on each side(mostly)...you'd never ever see a bus here stop four lanes of traffic Especially if their entirely on the other side of the road because thats bloody stupid...so what the absolute fuck is happening here? :'D hahaha
What if the kid lived on the other side of the street, moron? He's supposed to just frogger traffic? or walk a long distance on the sidewalk of a busy 4 lane stretch of road? It's about safety of the young students.
There's a border between caution and stupidity. Either school buses should not stop on roads with more than 2 lanes (total) or traffic in the opposite direction should not be forced to stop.
perfectly legal in ohio.... Highways with Four or More Lanes On roads with four or more lanes, only traffic moving in the same direction as the bus must stop when the school bus stops to release passengers. Traffic coming from the opposite direction doesn't have to stop in these instances. To facilitate this law, children are dropped off on the same side of the road as their residences, so they won't have to cross the street.
Literally can't see what is wrong about this. The bus is on the other side of the street. Why are they stopping the cars that are going to opposite way? What the fuck?
Yes but that's a 4 lane road. Are there not any pedestrian passings or traffic lights so people can cross a big and busy street like that? Seems retarded to stop people that passed the bus when no kids even got out yet, are shielded by the bus, and 3 wide lanes away from you.
Unkel Dolan it's a National Safety Laws in all 50 states covering the busses and school bus traffic. Unless there is a center barrier separating the lanes on the road ALL traffic stops. There could be 6 lanes a turn lane and every vehicle in both directions is supposed to stop.
Doesn't make sense at all. This law is probably ignored so much because it is so illogical. I wonder when this law was created. Because it just sounds like it was made before schoolbusses even stopped at roads this wide and that the future wasn't taken into consideration. Meaning that as small towns expanded and the schoolbus also had the stop at big roads, the law technically still counts for these big roads. (Even tho there is not really a need for it) Anyway, traffic behind the bus stopped. If I was a member of that town I would want the police to worry about other things rather than citing vehicles that failed to stop for a bus that wasn't even near them.
Also assuming the white vehicle at 0:50 is the same next to the white truck at 0:37 What even is the point of making him stop? His view was obstructed by a truck and he was already pretty much next to the school bus when it didn't even come to a full stop or could even have it's doors open. Also why stop the car that is the furthest away from the bus, and let the *truck* closest to the bus go? Nothing in this video makes sense to me.
So, for all of those who didn't know, you (a driver) are required by federal law to STOP for a child carrying bus (School Bus) whenever the bus has stopped and has the red-flashing STOP indicator lights engaged to indicate that children will be boarding/departing the bus. In addition, you must REMAIN STOPPED until the bus has disengaged the red flashing stop lights. It doesn't matter what lane you're in, if it's day or night, rain or sunshine, on a dirt road, back road, ally, side street, main street, highway, or multi-lane freeway/interstate. YOU. MUST. STOP. ******The ONLY exception to this law is for vehicles traveling on a multi-lane freeway/interstate where there is a large physical barrier dividing that freeway (median). In this instance, the vehicles traveling in the opposite direction do not need to stop, however, all vehicles traveling in the direction of the bus must stop. There are hefty fines and penalties for anyone who breaks this law. Fines and penalties range by state, but generally, the fine is $350 and 3 points on your driver's license. So why is this even a law? Why must you stop? Why is there a fine and a penalty? Well, it's simple. So you don't hit and kill a child crossing the street to get to the school bus. It's for the safety and well-being of the children. So please, don't be distracted and pay attention!!
HELL YES... that was one of the best vids of 2017.
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In 1971 i witnessed a school mate get hit a truck that ignored stopped school bus. Her body exploded by the impact severing her in half at the waist and spilling her guts across the road. Forty-seven years later and that memory is as vivid today as the day it happened. A ticket isn't enough.... The driver should get jail time for endangering children's lives.
The kids are let off on their side of the street in this town. Regardless, traffic is to stop if there is no median separating the lanes of travel. I lived in the city next to Westland, and my child was an inch from being hit by a car that passed his bus on the right side (between him and the bus door). One of the most terrifying moments in my life. Mind you, the road I lived on was not a main road, and I lived directly across the street from the school!! So thankful I have taught my children to be aware of their surroundings and the idiot's that surround them. It is a serious problem in the Metro Detroit area, and I'm glad to see some steps in the right direction from local law enforcement. And trust that they already have their hands full.
I'm a school bus driver and this is perfectly legal. We don't stop 4 lanes of traffic for kids to cross for obvious reasons. We drop them off on the side of the road they live on, often times at the end of their driveway. So this looks pretty ridiculous to me.
I've been driving in Pennsylvania for over 40 years, and not until last year did I see a school bus stopping to let off children on a 4 lane highway, In an area where the speed limit is 45mph.. I was driving this road for the 2,000th plus time, and suddenly, with little warning, a school bus on the other side of the highway stopped and put on his flashing lights. At 45mph, there was no possible way I could have stopped in the less than 100 feet between me and him. Not only that, but I had always assumed that school buses were not allowed to let off passengers on a 4 lane highway...and apparently I wasn't the only one who thought this, as at least 20 other cars, on the same side as me, went right on by the bus. A police cruiser just ahead of the bus, did a u-turn and came after the cars that passed the bus. The funny thing of that is, he could only stop one of 20, and that poor unlucky son of a bitch had to pay for following the traffic in front of him... Am I the only one who thinks it is dangerously stupid to drop off school children along a 4 lane highway, where cars are averaging around 50 mph?
For those of you saying that this bus stopped in a bad spot and that the cars on the otherside of the road don’t need to stop, it doesn’t matter where at the bus is stopped. If the road is not divided, you have to stop.
In our state no matter how many lanes of traffic there are you MUST stop in both directions UNLESS there is a concrete barrier or grass median with curb down the middle that would prevent a pedestrian from crossing.
This is hilarious how the second the bus stops and traffic keeps going a line of unmarked SUVs start pooling out from the parking lot.
it's like a clown car but a parking lot
That was great
That was a excellent nab
Take note of that there were 2 box trucks in the passing lane. The first one like may been able to pass just before the red lights came on. This truck would have blocked the view of the bus to the motorist behind it. About every vehicle pulled over the cop pulled over was either on right side or behind the box trucks, so they would not have been able to see the school bus. Notice that neither of the box trucks were pulled over. This video would have also served as evidence that those vehicles couldn't see the school bus.
Not hilarious, sickening. I hope everyone took that to court
Lol. They had a police car for every car that passed.
Not really, no one chased the trucks.
They probably had to stop the traffic on that side in order to get to everyone.
Nice job officer's!!! Thank you for watching out for the children!
more of this needs to be done and posted every day !!!!!!!
I still can't wrap my head around how this video was uploaded not two months ago, yet looks worse than videos uploaded in 2005.
Thats all you have to say, just bitching about the video quality. You must be a kid that has no life at all. You watch a video about the police trying to keep our children safe and all you can do is bitch.
freeyourmindtc You get triggered easily. I was making a simple observation.
mazda9624 3 months ago? Shit. They need some money for some good cameras
|I suspect there are loads of things you can't wrap your head around. Stay safe, keep up with your reading and writing practice, come back to youtube when you are able to comment without embarassing yourself.
That's what happens when you rip a video from Facebook lol
Great educational video. I've visited the states many times, and had always thought that you just had to stop behind a stopped school bus - I didn't realise that traffic on both sides of the road were obliged to stop. You've just saved me a ticket or worse. Thanks guys :)
Retired from Law enforcement, I remember occasionally doing these school bus details but never using 4 patrol cars. We were lucky if we could free up 1 patrol car. This is just wow.
Definetley count yourself lucky it depends on what state you are in what the ticket is but I do know it can range from $400 to over $1000 plus points on your license
If there is a median then only the direction the bus is stopped on has to stop. Median here means a boundary wall or grass median, not just a left turn lane.
It's literally one of the most important traffic laws out there and I see people break them all the time.
As a former school bus driver this happened to me many times. Fortunately none of my kids were hurt. One did go home with a friend and ir happened. I saw her the next year limping to my bus to repeat the grade because her recovery time took so long.
240p in 2017?
mindlessgonzo With the Department low funds they had to utilized the potato camera. but after all those traffic stops now they can afford a better camera hopefully in the future 1080p will be utilizes.
Both you don’t get it. It’s about storage 1080p and days of recording takes a lot of memory to store.
lol in the days of terabyte sd cards yah ok
This lame convo is what ya'll have derived at from this vid!!!?
Afford a better camera? Every one of those cops has a better camera in their pocket, clipped to their shirt, and mounted on their dashboard. There is simply no excuse for this terrible level of video quality.
Those tickets ought to be $1000
I still remember when some scumbag passed our school bus after the yellow lights turned to red for a while and the bus laying on the horn and that mother F'er just kept on coming as they didn't give a crap. Then, right after they passed I looked back and there was a cop right behind the bus and the light came on. I just started laughing. That made my week.
Bruh that's priceless
The heck type of reply is this? You just insult someone for no reason.
Gotta love instant justice.
Not even joking, i almost got hit by a passing car from a school bus. If i hadent forgotten my lunch on the counter of my kitchen, i would have been seconds early and probably have been hit that fateful day no joke i was scared too
Watch for yourself not the driver be defensive it is your life.
Westland PD dropping the hammer! Keep up the great work and stay safe officers!
I can't remember a school day, when I was on the job, where someone failed to yield to the flashing red lights of a school bus dropping off or picking up kids. Many a cites were issued for that single offense and hopefully saved some child's life.
What you did was AMAZING! Just the other day I was talking to the bus driver about these issues!
The dislikes are from people who got a ticket from them
First time violations deserve a fine. Second time violators deserve a fine and suspension of license until they take and pass a written test and a driving test again.
3rd time, crucifixion
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Video finishes with "Thank you." No, no, officers. Thank YOU!
This is why we need cops. #BlueLivesMatter
I know I'm gonna catch $#!+ for this, so NOLA.com, feel free to delete this comment
As a bus driver myself, I can TOTALLY relate.
This made me feel so happy!
Great work officers! This needed to be done!
I hope they caught that one that was on the bus cam, You guys are great, Thank you for your service.
Good job, guys!
As far as I can tell, the "rest of us" are the countries where school children ride public transport instead and traffic doesn't have to stop whatsoever for those transportation vehicle. So these "retarded rules" are keeping the children alive.
How so? I really want to find out why you think such a thing. Forcing traffic to stop so children can cross safely is surely more safe than just throwing them off the vehicle and letting them fend for themselves.
Telling children that when the bus is stopped, all traffic should be stopped as well. There's a reason school bus operators don't let the kids cross until the driver can tell all drivers have stopped. You're not making much sense.
No Commentz You should do as your name implies and make no comments. You referred to America as a third world country.... Either you have no idea what a third world country actually is, or you're incredibly fucking stupid. I hope it's not the later of the two.
No Commentz I'm afraid the only useless thing was your attempt at an education.
I side with the cops on this one.
they'll lose
CapitalTrigga true
Youmadbro962...pass a school bus 🚌 unloading my precious grandkids..and you you will have to answer to one pissed off old man with an ice pick aimed at the base of your 💀. Have a pleasant day.
youmadbro951 lol reported for what? Making you butthurt?
Pineapple Dan no but you are goodnight.
For all you saying the bus stopped too fast--the video is sped up 2x. So really it didn't stop all that fast and traffic is not going nearly as fast as it appears. Not to mention traffic just kept going even after police started swarming. The law is the law, should they move the bus stops to a side street? Yes, probably, but that doesn't give you the right to ignore traffic laws. There may have been one or two innocent drivers here but the majority were straight up breaking the law.
bushpilot223 I used to live in this area for about 20 years it is westland Michigan right on ford road just east of hix rd. the traffic does go that fast. I guarentee you it is not sped up. westland pd is loaded with a bunch of corrupt cops who care for nothing more than money. rookie cops have left Westland to join the police force in neighboring cities for the way WPD treats people.
Highball 734 Westland is money hungry city.
Highball 734 ...do have a highball?
some states no longer require you to stop if you are on the other side of the street because kids are not allowed to cross anyways. The drivers are supposed to stop on the side of the street where the kids house is.
Highball 734 I agree. The stop sign wasn't necessary here.
Damned right....thank you for your assistance police officers!
I live in a city where school zones are regularly ignored when their are hoards of kids on either side of the street. People are passing me doing anywhere from 30-40 mph. It gets old, and I'm glad the laws are being enforced somewhere if not here.
Oh my god my heart stopped with that last clip 😨😨😨
That last clip with the kids almost getting hit was too unreal. I wish it was fake. So unbelievable! :( thank you officers!
I worked as a school bus driver and had a near miss. I was stopped on a two way street and a corvette was going to blow past the stop sign and run the child over. Thanks to the training I had received I had stopped at an angle that allowed me to pull out and block the car, this protecting the child. Glad the officers are saving lives.
Your story has more holes than swiss cheese.
Have to double check but I believe Delaware law is 5 points and 3 months suspension
Thank you for keeping our kids safe
One of the things I learned when I moved from Missouri to Kansas was a small but important difference in how school bus signals are treated. In Missouri, vehicles are not required to stop when you are traveling the opposite direction of a school bus on a highway containing four or more lanes of traffic. In fact, and this is from page 43 of the Missouri Driver's Guide, _No driver of a school bus shall take on or discharge passengers at any location upon a highway consisting of four or more lanes of traffic, whether or not divided by a median or barrier, in such a manner as to require the passengers to cross more than two lanes of traffic._
For comparison, page 12 of the Kansas Driving Handbook states: _You must stop when meeting or overtaking a school bus, church bus or day care bus that is stopped to pick up or let off children. You must remain stopped until the STOP signal is retracted and the red lights are turned off. Traffic approaching a school bus in the opposing roadway of a divided highway is not required to stop._
A subtle but distinct difference.
Read your state's handbook. They're free, and usually online.
Florida is different. Unless there is a raised or grass median or marked median of a certain width (center turn lane) you have to stop. Even if it's six lanes. There is a video similar to this from Pasco County on a bigger hwy. Cops pulled out like the president was coming and blocked across the highway.
great work thks be safe 🚔
Wow, congratulations, you're the ignorant douchebag award recipient of the month ! Be proud !!
Because it's safe for kids to cross 4 lanes of traffic?
Well, when the traffic stops like they're supposed to yes.
In Florida it’s more of a precaution just in case a child runs across the road. The bus goes down the street one way then turns around and goes back to pick up children on the other side. So if the road doesn’t have a raised median both sides must stop no matter the size of the road.
Why dont you just up the tickets to 2500$
That'll help, you cant make tickets only 300$
Best move I've ever seen cops use. You all deserve atta boys, keep up with the good work.
I'll be honest this confused me. In Ohio, if theres 4 lanes of traffic, it's perfectly legal for oncoming traffic to keep going while the school bus is stopped. Reason being it's also illegal to have kids cross more than one lane.
Joe Podskalan... you are correct. This was a odd area to try and have kids cross that big of a road. Turn the bus around and pick up or drop them off on whatever side they need to be on. I would have fought this ticket if it was for me and as a parent I would be pissed off if the school wanted my kids to cross a 4 lane road to get on a bus
Joe Podskalan that's what I thought. I live in PA and we have the same law.
Here in NC, it depends on if there is a median. If there is than on coming traffic doesn't have to stop, but if there isn't, everyone does.
Lightsaber360 oh ok. Maybe that's what the law is here too. I honestly think that part of the problem is that people (like myself) aren't informed of what the actual law is. It seems like most of the time here some stop and some don't and nobody really knows what to do.
You're one of the only people in UA-cam comments I've seen to admit ignorance on a subject and I greatly respect you for that.
Well done the Police Dept of the City of Westland, as an ex bus driver, I've seen too many Children nearly killed by uncaring Drivers, so a big Well Done from Scotland, everyone's Child must be important to us all
NICE GOING! I remember stopping behind a school bus a few months ago. Some hothead behind me honked, then swerved around me, and sped (And I mean SPED!) past me and the bus, flipped us the finger and (I thought) continued down the road. What he didn't notice was, in the cars facing the opposite way as us, was an Arvada PD motorcycle cop. (he was behind the First car facing the opposite way that also stopped for the bus). The cop went after him and pulled him over. After the bus continued on, I saw the cop standing next to the guy's car. I just tapped my horn in approval to the cop and gave him a thumb's up.
What is wrong with some people!
I had a guy honk at me repeatedly for waiting for pedestrians (school children) in the crosswalk. There were a lot of kids, so the wait was just unbearable to him. He got out of his truck so that he could approach me and threaten me, but some of the other drivers around told him to get back in his truck, and he did.
That is how law enforcement is done in my hometown Westland, thanks to all officers involved.
I want to give all these cops a great big round of applause and thank you for doing such a Wonderful job!!! As a retired school bus driver I cant even count how many times in my 15yrs driving I have seen/reported people for blowing my lights and nothing was ever done to get to see you officers doing this puts a smile on my face and warms my heart!!! Thank You So Very Much!!!!
Police Department in Westland, Mich: Well Done, all of you wonderful guys ! .
And why the hell is the school bus stopping in the middle of a road, where kids have to cross a lane of travel to get to the bus?
It wasn’t it was a four laned road and it was in the fourth lane
Really??
It's 2017 and even the crappiest cell phone can produce 720 resolution or more. To see something uploaded since 2015 in a native resolution below 720 boggles the mind, and yours is capped at *240*??? I know that PDs are strapped for cash, but whoever uploaded this was strapped for skill, too!
Amzar Nacht What’s worse is that this was produced/uploaded in October 2017.
That was my point...
It's probably why they pulled this ridiculous sting operation. Because the department needed to afford a better camera that didn't come out of a fucking cereal box. I don't think it's fair your expected to stop for a school bus when it's a huge 4 lane road. Some drivers might not even notice the bus was even there.
Amzar Nacht quit yer bitchin.
Mark OnTheBlueRidge I hope Joewillgoandturninhislicence!!!
Most jurisdictions these tickets would all be thrown out. Law states that on a four lane highway (which this is) cars traveling in the same direction as the bus MUST STOP (as they did). However, traffic traveling in the opposite direction is NOT required to stop (which they didn't). Therefore, all tickets issued should be fought and tossed. Look here: www.bellinghamherald.com/news/traffic/rules-of-the-road/article57151848.html
I'm just sayin'.
Beautiful moment when they had about 5 different cars stoped. I believe that the city will be getting a big bonus the next week.
$2,000 in fines and 4 points that will cure this real fast.
Here in Washington ...those drivers did nothing illegal ..2 lanes each direction ..equals not stopping
(3) The driver of a vehicle upon a highway with three or more marked traffic lanes need not stop upon meeting a school bus which is proceeding in the opposite direction and is stopped for the purpose of receiving or discharging school children.RCW 46.61.370
How do you manage to look up the exact law and fuck up reading comprehension that badly?
1) How many directional lanes must a highway have to be exempt from stopping? Three.
2) How many directional lanes does this highway have? That's right, you said it yourself. TWO.
Therefore, you still need to stop.
2 lanes each direction equals...lets see 2x2=4 .... hmmm lets try it this way 2+2=4 ..same answer..4 is greater than 2 ..3 is greater than 2 also
You do realize the "three" in that sentence refers to three DIRECTIONAL lanes, as I said? Three each direction. That's SIX lanes, total. (You know, 3+3=6). This highway has two DIRECTIONAL lanes.
How do I come up with that conclusion?
It's simple. How the fuck do you expect there to be three total lanes on a road? Each side gets 1.5 lanes? Is there a place in Washington that has tons of half-size cars that only take up one lane, or is there motorcycle lanes everywhere? Three lanes means three lanes a direction.
no ...it says MARKED traffic lanes..that means you could even have 1 lane each way AND a full time turn lane ..that would be 3 marked traffic lanes
+thedarkfreak ....the law does not specify that the, "three or more lanes" ALL have to be going the same direction.
AND BTW, this is a FIVE lane road, two each way and a center turn.
It actually ILLEGAL for the driver to allow the children to cross there.
I do believe YOU are the one that lacks, "reading comprehension"!
"keep the faith people, and keep on keeping on"
the real crime here is that camera quality bro
Good for you officers. Nothing makes more angry than people ignoring school bus flashing lights.
What is that song called?
awesome
This videos was soooooo satisfying.... kick my feet up, hands back of my head, big smile... Aaahhhhhhh !!!!!!
Who in their right mind doesn't teach their children how to safely cross the road? Who in their right mind doesn't park a school bus inside the school premises? Christ, American infrastructure is sorely lacking!
The thing about children is, they're stupid and irresponsible. You can teach them all about safety and whatnot but doesn't mean they're going to listen and/or apply what they've be taught. Adults need to be responsible drivers, as they're the ones in control of the big metal machine that can kill children and other adults pretty easily. Human life is more important than someone getting to their destination 5 minutes earlier.
Hence why the school bus should drop off children inside the grounds. That said, we teach our children how to cross roads properly from a very early age, and they seem to remember how to cross roads properly.
So when the kids are going home the bus should just take them from the school door to the edge of the school grounds and then they should just walk the rest of the way home????
Whoops, I see the flaw in my statement. TBF the second half still stands
"We do not want to write you tickets" Best joke I heard all day
Since they advertised ahead of time, giving fair warning, which they do NOT have to do; I'd say their statement is credible.
Keep the good work up. Anyone who goes around a school bus when kids are getting off should be arrested and have their DL taken away and given a 10g fine.
1:26 How far away is this school bus from the curb? Is there actually a lane between the bus and the children?
seriously. wtf. Even stopping in the right lane would be reasonable, but this? And why does traffic on the other side of the road need to stop, Do they expect the kids to cross a 4 lane road with out a crosswalk? they should know what side of the street the bus is stopping.
Ryder Lee I believe it's because children tend to be unpredictable and might just dart across the road. But that's just my opinion.
Robert McConnell
makes sense for a 2 lane road, but not a 4 lane. I just looked it up, and the first thing on google is this "You must remain stopped as long as the red lights flash or the stop arm is out. The only exception to this is where you are approaching the bus from the opposite direction on a road with at least two lanes in each direction." Maybe its different in Michigan, but it seems to me it would be safer to teach kids to use cross walks. If a few cars on the opposite side of the road stop in the right lane, the kids will think its safe to cross, but then some asshole not paying attention might try to go around the stopped cars to the left, not seeing the kids crossing.
RIP 240P, also you can tell these people cared more about the money than anything
DMS....ignorant !They care more about the kids lives.
I'm certainly for tough enforcement for school bus/ zone violations, but it appears the bus did not signal it's intention to drop kids off until it was nearly stopped, and it seems cops began to move to pull people over when the lights on the bus were flashing yellow, not red. So, as much as I want people who pass a stopped school bus to be given large punishments, illegally ticketing people and not following proper protocol when operating a school bus just awful and another way for these corrupt cops to hand out tickets.
The drivers knew exactly what they were doing dude
They did learn, but they didn't listen. Choosing that their precious time is more important than a child's life
I remember on my bus in high school a car passed on the opposite side of the road so our bus driver went ham on the horn and he flipped the bus off, panning his gesture across the vehicle's span.
Bad idea. Immediately, without saying anything, everyone on the bus stuck their arms out and that man got simultaneously flipped off by 70 high school kids that day.
It was beautiful.
Holy cow, thats freaking amazing XD I couldnt help but smile XD
LOVE THIS!!!
2017 and this video is 240p...
I plan to make bumper stickers sometime soon that say “When you see kids getting on/off the school bus...
PRESS
YOUR
BRAKE!”
I might even use that in future videos...🤓
"But but but I have a busy schedule that only exists in my mind, same as the consequences if I don't follow my imaginary schedule that makes me look important to everyone. I can't stop for the school bus. Can I talk to your manager, supervisor, or whatever they are called pleassssse?"
That's clearly entrapment. If you want a lot of those cars didn't have time to stop when those signs came out
Keith Hobbs School buses have yellow lights on the back and front that flash before it comes to a stop warning you before it happens, then the lights turn red at a big red stop sign comes out which also has its own flashing lights. If you fail to see those things, you're not paying attention and if you can't stop in time that means you're speeding or following too closely.
I guess I never realized how many people don't know what entrapment is. How is this entrapment if they don't even see the officers? Entrapment is when the officer's actions cause them to commit the crime.
People need to pay attention to traffic around them, if I see a school bus I prepare to slow down when lights are amber. I pay attention to whats going on beyond the vehicle in front of me.
I don't know... seems a bit unreasonable lol. Wide ass road, bus stops on the opposite side and I'm expected to slam on the brakes when I notice there's a bus over there with a small light lit up pulled over? They didn't give that first few people much time to even react.
Yeah, when I clicked on this I was thinking it was going to be on a two-lane road with people like this moron from up my way: ua-cam.com/video/1UTM40K53K8/v-deo.html
Instead they show a five lane main rroute goo.gl/maps/bb26A42FsBm
I wouldn't have stopped either, that's nonsense. Here in Ohio oncoming traffic does not have to stop on a four-lane road, which is the way it should be.
If there's a median in between you don't have to stop, at least where I live that's the rule. The kid's need to cross the road, it's much safer for them to cross with the bus there holding traffic then it is to cross on their own after it leaves. Most buses have yellow flashing lights that come on a little bit before they actually stop to warn you they are stopping along with a stop sign that pops out.
If it's more than two, maybe three lanes kids just plain shouldn't be crossing in the middle of the block. This is a five lane road, it's not pedestrian friendly. Cross at the designated crosswalks.
Small light? Bus is bright yellow, has two large red flashing lights on the top, and a stop sign on the side with two more flashing red lights. Also, it's called paying attention to your driving! As for the kids, tell a 5 year old to only cross at the crosswalk when they think they're going to miss the bus, or when their super bright parent has decided to park across the street, and the child can see them. It's the law, STOP for the school bus!!!!
Mary H I think your right
Im aussie so this is confusing...Nothing happened.
In OZ bus lights come on, bus pulls over, and you move(if you can) to the other lane...hence why they have two lanes on each side(mostly)...you'd never ever see a bus here stop four lanes of traffic Especially if their entirely on the other side of the road because thats bloody stupid...so what the absolute fuck is happening here? :'D hahaha
In the U.S., it is illegal to continue driving when a bus has lights on unless you're in an oncoming lane that is separated by a median.
Kids tend to cross the street when the bus stop lights are flashing.
What if the kid lived on the other side of the street, moron? He's supposed to just frogger traffic? or walk a long distance on the sidewalk of a busy 4 lane stretch of road? It's about safety of the young students.
There's a border between caution and stupidity. Either school buses should not stop on roads with more than 2 lanes (total) or traffic in the opposite direction should not be forced to stop.
I can't wrap my head around passing a school bus, expecting not to get caught.
i didnt even see any kids come off lol
perfectly legal in ohio.... Highways with Four or More Lanes
On roads with four or more lanes, only traffic moving in the same direction as the bus must stop when the school bus stops to release passengers. Traffic coming from the opposite direction doesn't have to stop in these instances. To facilitate this law, children are dropped off on the same side of the road as their residences, so they won't have to cross the street.
Ronald Champoux this is how it should be. There’s no reason for traffic to stop on the other side of the road.
Exactly!! I live in Ohio.. Are Ohio and Mich Laws are same? If so, Cops are breaking the law.
Exactly. Everyone else in the comments doesn’t realize this is ALWAYS the case
Literally can't see what is wrong about this. The bus is on the other side of the street. Why are they stopping the cars that are going to opposite way? What the fuck?
Yes but that's a 4 lane road. Are there not any pedestrian passings or traffic lights so people can cross a big and busy street like that? Seems retarded to stop people that passed the bus when no kids even got out yet, are shielded by the bus, and 3 wide lanes away from you.
Unkel Dolan it's a National Safety Laws in all 50 states covering the busses and school bus traffic. Unless there is a center barrier separating the lanes on the road ALL traffic stops. There could be 6 lanes a turn lane and every vehicle in both directions is supposed to stop.
Doesn't make sense at all. This law is probably ignored so much because it is so illogical. I wonder when this law was created. Because it just sounds like it was made before schoolbusses even stopped at roads this wide and that the future wasn't taken into consideration. Meaning that as small towns expanded and the schoolbus also had the stop at big roads, the law technically still counts for these big roads. (Even tho there is not really a need for it)
Anyway, traffic behind the bus stopped. If I was a member of that town I would want the police to worry about other things rather than citing vehicles that failed to stop for a bus that wasn't even near them.
Also assuming the white vehicle at 0:50 is the same next to the white truck at 0:37
What even is the point of making him stop? His view was obstructed by a truck and he was already pretty much next to the school bus when it didn't even come to a full stop or could even have it's doors open.
Also why stop the car that is the furthest away from the bus, and let the *truck* closest to the bus go? Nothing in this video makes sense to me.
That is retarded indeed. But then again yanks drive everywhere and aren't used to walking so pedestrian crossings aren't a thing over there.
So, for all of those who didn't know, you (a driver) are required by federal law to STOP for a child carrying bus (School Bus) whenever the bus has stopped and has the red-flashing STOP indicator lights engaged to indicate that children will be boarding/departing the bus. In addition, you must REMAIN STOPPED until the bus has disengaged the red flashing stop lights. It doesn't matter what lane you're in, if it's day or night, rain or sunshine, on a dirt road, back road, ally, side street, main street, highway, or multi-lane freeway/interstate. YOU. MUST. STOP. ******The ONLY exception to this law is for vehicles traveling on a multi-lane freeway/interstate where there is a large physical barrier dividing that freeway (median). In this instance, the vehicles traveling in the opposite direction do not need to stop, however, all vehicles traveling in the direction of the bus must stop. There are hefty fines and penalties for anyone who breaks this law. Fines and penalties range by state, but generally, the fine is $350 and 3 points on your driver's license. So why is this even a law? Why must you stop? Why is there a fine and a penalty? Well, it's simple. So you don't hit and kill a child crossing the street to get to the school bus. It's for the safety and well-being of the children. So please, don't be distracted and pay attention!!
In Ohio it only has to be a 4 lane road , doesnt require a median.
A world of thanks! Much needed guys!!! Great Job! #GoinstrongJaysbus#186!
Not a single child would have been affected by the actions of the drivers, yet they were all penalized. Good going, officers!
Just take their licenses away. Simple solution.
Lol. Police officers: driving past school bus Loading/unloading is illegal. Police officer proceeds to drive past one.
This is awesome, do this everyday for a couple weeks and people will get it. Put cameras on the buss to record plates, and mail them tickets too.
that short video from inside the bus almost made me sick.
Anyone else notice how the school bus waited until the last second to put its yellow flashers on?
Great freaking JOB!!! Swarm like a boss!!
HELL YES... that was one of the best vids of 2017.
In 1971 i witnessed a school mate get hit a truck that ignored stopped school bus. Her body exploded by the impact severing her in half at the waist and spilling her guts across the road. Forty-seven years later and that memory is as vivid today as the day it happened. A ticket isn't enough.... The driver should get jail time for endangering children's lives.
Imagine the drivers just seeing like 9 police cars chasing you after running the school bus stop sign
As a one-time school bus driver, I will say it was terrifying the way cars would blaze around the red lights and children.
as a one time bus follower, it was terrifying to be behind these morons
Passing a school bus should be a thousand dollar fine and loss of license for a year
This needs to take place in NC for most cities!
The kids are let off on their side of the street in this town. Regardless, traffic is to stop if there is no median separating the lanes of travel. I lived in the city next to Westland, and my child was an inch from being hit by a car that passed his bus on the right side (between him and the bus door). One of the most terrifying moments in my life. Mind you, the road I lived on was not a main road, and I lived directly across the street from the school!! So thankful I have taught my children to be aware of their surroundings and the idiot's that surround them. It is a serious problem in the Metro Detroit area, and I'm glad to see some steps in the right direction from local law enforcement. And trust that they already have their hands full.
Publicly shaming them would help.
Hell yeah, more of this! This is what the police get paid for, protect and serve.
I'm a school bus driver and this is perfectly legal. We don't stop 4 lanes of traffic for kids to cross for obvious reasons. We drop them off on the side of the road they live on, often times at the end of their driveway. So this looks pretty ridiculous to me.
$2000 fine and car impounded on the spot for 10 days - plus towing and storage charges - let them walk the rest of the way
Good job! Make our school age children safe again!
I've been driving in Pennsylvania for over 40 years, and not until last year did I see a school bus stopping to let off children on a 4 lane highway, In an area where the speed limit is 45mph.. I was driving this road for the 2,000th plus time, and suddenly, with little warning, a school bus on the other side of the highway stopped and put on his flashing lights. At 45mph, there was no possible way I could have stopped in the less than 100 feet between me and him. Not only that, but I had always assumed that school buses were not allowed to let off passengers on a 4 lane highway...and apparently I wasn't the only one who thought this, as at least 20 other cars, on the same side as me, went right on by the bus. A police cruiser just ahead of the bus, did a u-turn and came after the cars that passed the bus. The funny thing of that is, he could only stop one of 20, and that poor unlucky son of a bitch had to pay for following the traffic in front of him... Am I the only one who thinks it is dangerously stupid to drop off school children along a 4 lane highway, where cars are averaging around 50 mph?
It really pissed me off at the last clip when the driver didn’t stop for the children trying to get on the bus.
Dispatch probably was flipping out in confusion
For those of you saying that this bus stopped in a bad spot and that the cars on the otherside of the road don’t need to stop, it doesn’t matter where at the bus is stopped. If the road is not divided, you have to stop.
That's impressive. I thought some got away but no way. LOL
2 thumbs up ya'll!! I would sit & watch that all day long...untill it stoped! Keep up the gd work!!
In our state no matter how many lanes of traffic there are you MUST stop in both directions UNLESS there is a concrete barrier or grass median with curb down the middle that would prevent a pedestrian from crossing.