@@blazeofglory2882 No I mean, when Nix did roleplaying, Enthorial was his main. When WotLK came out, he made the dk Nixxiom who was supposed to be Enthorial resurrected. He says all of this in the firesides with Nixxiom; would recommend.
Rony Dominguez Only reason I got to play wow back in the day was cause my cousin was kind enough to let me make a guy on his account. I was a poor little fucker.
@@thunderborn3231 then you are not one of whom i spoke of, as we're sharing, i only got to play through constant 14 day trials with different emails, i too was poor lol
The reason i like WoW classic more than the current one is because everything mattered. From the choices that you made to the kind of gear you needed to equip. Not gonna lie when you have to start off with grey gear before working your way up to green feels so much more impactful.
not to mention, you can't just server hop if too many people are questing around you or the rare spawn you're looking for isn't up on your realm. People would rather server hop and keep questing solo than group with the few people they can see in their sharded world for content they're competing over.
actually Vanilla would have been.. "I was told to go west... but the objective was in the East" dont know how many times i came across quests that had bad directions.
sneaking through mines in classic as a rouge? thats pretty much the first thing i did everytime i saw the two mines in elwyn forest, no matter how often i got killed or if i didnt got any loot, it was just... fun i guess :D
ooh, this got me in the mood. Epic video m8, sounds like you had an awesome time. THIS is what WOW is all about.. epic vid. Really looking forward to Vanilla now.
Lollllll Ray has spent so much time saying classic sucked, that now that its a thing, he can't handle it. Quick guys. Save his comment. Take pics. In 3 months, we'll cyberbully the f*ck out of him with how popular vanilla is xD
@Dr Boom ding ding ding. You are correct sir. And i didnt think about that after reading that dudes comment where he said it would be dead in 1 month. He makes people around him dumber! Hes not an idiot. Hes a super genius. And hes fuckin with us lol
I just love the way to tell the story while playing. It's fun, it's immersive, it's thrilling, you want to know more, what lies behind the next hill, the next kill, the next treasurechest and you WANT TO PLAY THE GAME YOURSELF. Keep up the good work. Love your videos!!!
Beautiful video, Nixion. I can relate to everything, including having time to think about the lore. Let see... 1- We didn't need content from Blizzard because the basic mechanic of the game provided so many interesting situations. Every play was different, with every class. 2- Because of the situations you got into each class had to be learned and played very different from one another. So, making alts and trying new classes was fun. 3- We also were not part of some franchise character's story. We were making our own stories. 4- The areas had their own local problems and mysteries, instead of all following a central theme/storyline or expansion world events, which made the world seem larger. 5- Because we had to walk from one place to the other, we had to learn to avoid mobs, discover paths etc. 6- Because there was no minimap aid, we had to read quests. And because there were less quests we didn't mind reading them. 7- The fact that mobs were difficult gave us the opportunity to choose from where to attack them, who to CC, watch for patrols, move patterns, pulling, LOS etc... 8- We also had to choose strategically where to sit to drink/eat 9- It was a huge pleasure, not just getting help from someone in a tight situation but also giving help. I remember that I loved helping my friends that I invited into the game with quests and leveling. That was so much fun! Now there is really no reason to... Some cynic might say that you can do these things with "the XXX challenge" or whatever, but it's not the same, at all. When in Cata they changed the leveling exp and made the game 100% about end I immediately saw that the game had changed fundamentally. From then it was downhill to the collection of instanced/sharded/menued mini-games we have today. I wish they had grown wow more diagonally and not just vertically. More classes/ races, areas, professions, levels... Well, thanks for the video. It expresses very well what a lot of us feel and can't easily express. This short list still seems like it's missing so much...
I think Live WoW is great, and I don't think Vanilla is superior at all. But... The design philosophy of classic WoW is more up my alley. The leveling experience IS the game instead of being filler. Being forced to learn your class and get help while leveling teaches people things that live simply doesn't. I'm a very new WoW player as I started playing around MoP. Unless you make use of supplementary resources (guides etc.) there is absolutely no way you know how to use your class properly by the time you get to the endgame. I was just confused. Since there is no need to socialize while leveling up either, you hit a brick wall once you are done with the very linear and hand-holdy questing that feels more like filler than the actual meat of the game. I still enjoy pursiong transmog items and various cool toys and gadgets in the game, but I'm really looking forward to classic for that "classic" rpg experience.
That sounded Epic, and I am so happy that you were able to have fantastic Adventure dispensing Justice and claiming the treasure that is rightfully yours. Your delivery honestly brought back many memories. Thank you.
I can't wait to quest in zones like felwood and winterpring again. I remember entering those zones for the first time thinking the place looks and feels dangerous. It was great!!
yell yes. Tanaris, Un'goro, Winterspring, STV, some of my favorite zones while playing classic WoW. I would love to see Classic WoW continue through TBC and maybe WotLK then maybe veer off the retail WoW line with it's own fresh expansion that they would slowly develop on the side while we enjoy Classic and TBC at least. Cataclysm was okay, but MoP was really the beginning of the end. I'd really like to see them do an expansion for the Classic WoW line that keeps with the Classic WoW experience instead of trying to dumb the game down to make the game feel more "inclusive" or whatever they want to call it. Players should be expected to adapt to the challenges they face in the game, not cry to the game developer that it's too hard and it's preventing them from experiencing content.
Can't wait. This one video can easily explain why Vanilla was so good. It's because of this quote "necessity is the mother of invention." Because of the difficulty of the simpilest mobs & that mobs would group up, making them even harder. So you come up with a strategy in necessity. Mabye you group up, or mabye you go with Nixxiom & sneak past areas that are too hard and use crowd control to pull mobs in relative safety. Because retail is so much easier & simpler. You don't have the *NECESSITY* to come up with strategies, due to the lack of changes in the game-play. Even minute ones, like an ominous cave guarded by powerful foes. Or a few mobs being put together that forces you to utilise CC. Simpler & easier = worse.
To be honest, I'm pumped for classic, but that feeling of fun leveling is only there until level 30ish, then it becomes a grind, but then it picks up right at 60 where the game becomes super fun as you gear up, then it dies down after BWL, and it the feeling of purples being purples fades away as you get more purps then you know what to do with.
Old WoW made you have to strategize more, to prepare, to learn, to feel like you're actually there and with one false move it's all over! Sometimes even with a friend it could still be tough. You actually had to use your head!!
Man watching this brought back some fond memories of not only struggling over those specific quests but so much more. Sitting south of goldshire, looking in fear and wonder at the coast of duskwood and those high level spiders. Meeting people by the summoning stone outside of the dead mines. Even watching (and sometimes running) this undead rogue that plagued westfall on our server. Watching the region chat go crazy trying to find him was so fun.
Having the talent trees, getting to choose what I improved and how I played brought back fond memories of the first time I ever played WoW, when my very first character was a night elf rogue. I'd put all my points into skills that improved my stealth, letting me be as sneaky as possible, back before I knew what optimal builds were, or that such a thing as a build even existed. I saw the chance to be a sneaky elf, someone who would never be caught, and on the off chance that someone attacked them they could vanish into the shadows and escape from any danger. I missed that feeling, before the time when it became almost second nature to look up the latest most optimal gear and talent builds for raiding and dungeons.
I like how the grass still has the WoD effects where it reacts to you walking through it. It's effects like these that I really don't mind being added to vanilla cuz they just add even more immersion.
This is beautifull! u totaly get it nixxiom! this is how wow shall be played! good vid man! cant wait for classic. like the story with the rouge in the tunnel. its totaly how the classes should feel! amazing.
I mean, form an RPG perspective I really like that you can't just kill 10+ people with ease the way you can on live. It's just an entirely different game. Probably more immersive.
This... almost put a tear to my eye. I miss the days of old wow. Where I got lost in the world for hours and hours, all on my own... now it's nothing like that. Nixxiom, thank you so much for this. I have restored hope.
You just described why I love my rogue and why i love vanilla. That last sentence especially. Vanilla, in its very design, pushes you to group and meet people.
the way you portray your gameplay makes me remember leveling in westfall as a priest. Wasn't easy, died a lot, joined plenty of parties for similar quests. it was awesome. wasted a whole summer in middle school grinding levels.
I remember doing similar stuff in Classic with my Druid. I still do. love sneaking in stealth across land and large crowds of Mobs, CC the ones that need to, taking care of the extra mobs, making sure I dont pull, Knowing when to interrupt and when to Stun, using potions, scrolls, ARMOR PATCH (cos leather working). Always ready and exited when friend wanted to party or do Dungeons! Standing in SW city or IronForge listening to chat asking for people to do dungeons or help for quests or trading materials (NOSTALGIA OVERDRIVE!!)
@@rayheller9747 Nope. I played from early 2006 Vanilla (messed around on a friends account in earlier classic) and they obviously had their faults and DEFINITELY bugs galore. But Id take buggy classic or TBC over "bug free" live ANYDAY. They were immersive and social like an MMO is supposed to be. Were they perfect? No, but they were leaps and bounds better than anything after them.
I remember when I first played. I saw that portal, and immediately my mind thought: So, another world? Had I known of other games, media, as a kid, that had those things? Yes, of course. I had seen cartoons. They had portals. Portals meant traveling to another place. In my mind, it was immediately associated with somewhere else. And as I got to play, and the Npcs addressed me, in deep voices, calming ones. I was completely taken away from planet earth. Being a six year old child with difficulty reading, I do not really remember what I read. But I do remember what I heard. Teldrassil's music. Oh, that sweet lullaby, those sounds of tigers and grellkin, I was whisked away from a life of my awkward upbringing and changed forever. I was an earthly denizen no longer... I was an azerothian, an adventurer. A world where I could escape my mortal bonds and be the brave hero I always wanted to be. A world where I was somebody. And that feeling, was incredible. It was not all great, as the pressure of not being able to respond to those typing to me as I grew older was increasingly frustrating, I taught myself to type, through world of warcraft. Through the intense need to give my hero a voice, I started with what I knew of the English alphabet, and in a few year's time, I was the fastest typer I knew.
I honestly don't think this could have been shown any better. The mini adventures, the distractions and the vendettas, dying and plotting. This brought old WoW back to me so well. I can't wait.
Not playing in Westfall a lot over the years, I'd always assumed it was always just perpetual Fall there, and the harvests were in ;) LOL! That'll teach me to read Lore and play more Alliance now and then :D Looking SO MUCH forward to this upcoming summer!
That feeling of stealth is why I played Subtlety, the feeling of seeing and not being seen, it was amazing. I loved. I've always like roges classes in general since then, and stealth games.
Man, this game was art... That connection between the pillagers and the burnt out farms was brand new to me, but then proccess od uncoverinf it is exactly what kept me hooked for so long.
I still remember the mine North of Azure Tower in Elwynn, or Northeast of Goldshire with Kobolds in It that you had to explore halfway through for a quest. When going there on my rogue/paladin/priest chars during classic wow 13 years ago I wanted to know what was beyond, but beyond were spider webs and dangereous mobs close to level 10, they were 8 or 9, possible a level 10 rare sometimes if I remember right and It was either that rare or a chest that had dropped there for me if I took the time to explore, sometimes cloth footwear would drop that'd reach up to your knees, that clothing I've remembered for 13 years now and have always went there to try and get them on new fresh alts just cause they look that cool to wear. And It felt dangereous going In there, spiders and all and then get rewarded with phat loot. This is what I expect from Vanilla WoW, from a true WoW experience that sadly hasn't been delivered on In retail WoW for over 10 years now.
I started in WOTLK and a lot of the elements of Vanilla were in the classic zones of EK/Kalmidor. I started as a human warrior. Westfall was no joke for a noob back then. The area by the entrance to VC was full of Defias and if you had 3-4 mobs on you, you better be lucky. I also remember before the map showed you where to go, 1 FP per zone and 1 hr CD on your hearthstone.
See this blizzard. Next expansion re-introduce base spell damage to reduce player power scaling. A fireball from an NPC your level should do about 30-45% of a players HPs. Hide your quests all over the map. And most of all, bring back talent trees. Yes 90% of people went cookie cutter but the rest of us did great things with them.
There are still chests in the classic areas in the live game. Is true that the mobs hit harder back then, but you cant still play that sneaky way and role. That's up to you, and can be done in the live servers.
Night Elf rogues are more difficult to detect and also got +1% Dodge and a second stealth ability(Shadowmeld) . Pretty handy, it's the best Alliance race for rogues PvP wise. Human rogue being the best for pve because of the sword/mace skill bonus (which increases your hit chance, very important in vanilla)
i did not start palying vanilla,but i started out in WOTLK, and i remmember creating human paladin called muffinhero(i was a kid) and leveling to 20 to get to Duskwood,and man,i will never forget that sensations and feelings when i stepped in that zone.Dark,shadow-wtisted part of Azeroth,loaded with mysteries and hazards.That feeling,when you start by killing wolfs and it slowly goes down to killing,skeletons,zombies in crypts,discovering that little lores which are all connected,discovering that tunnels in ravenhill catacombs.The atmosphere,which was filled with dread,the epic music,the quests,especially the big one called stalvan?i dont remember,in whichs end u got big 2 handed glowing sword called stalvans archerus i guess,and bigass portal in the center and dragon guarding it ...it was just amazing,i will never forget the feeling of just how massive is azeroth because such a little zone held so much mysteries.Good times
I didnt have a ticket and was not able to play the demo. I couldnt be bothered waiting so I just started on kronos ptivate servers. Wowl! it is so much fun. I forgot how much more immersive the game was. I even grouped up with another random player and had a great time doing quests. Cannot wait for classic wow. I am so excited for it!
It's stuff like this that convinces me that, even if I'm probably not going to have time for raiding, _classic wow will be fun enough to level in._ 5:45 Aw man I remember that moment on my rogue. _First head slot item, and a worthy trophy after my wetlands run._
Nixium so far the best clasic promo vide i’v watched i am quitesure you were crazy happy to do it feels good !I can imagine u havent sleep on thw night to dollow lol
That's how you know you're a seasoned Rogue, when your first instinct is to stealth and pickpocket the mobs before attacking! Also remembering to apply poisons to your weapons before you leave town on your adventures, you develop a compulsion that's hard to break. Every single class has little tells like that, from Shamans keeping Lightning Shield up, Priests with maintaining Inner Fire, Warriors remembering to always have Battle Shout applied and Paladins having an excellent internal chronometer regarding their five minute Blessings!
Question...in the demo how did spell training work? I don't remember class trainers in Westfall in Vanilla. Especially for non human classes, like hunters.
So you had a real mom experience. I'm proud of you. Challenge isn't a bad thing. Would you believe I've spoken to someone who has never seen any death animation in skyrim when he turned up the difficulty he was shocked and actually had fun. Just change skyrim into wow in the above paragraph, boom vanilla. I can't wait
im not a classic player. i started playing in MOP. but each time i hear about how hard everything was. i just love it more and more. i leveled my first character alone. and all through quest. i was a noob. but the best i had is that there's alot of challenges in it. plus i had three other dumbos with me questing. so it was fun AF.
It sure will be fun seeing all the newer players that haven't played the "old" wow, if I may call it that way, or haven't played vanilla on Nostalrius and the other private servers, when they find out that in order to get from level 10-20, you'll need to go, for example, Westfall - Loch Modan - Westfall - Loch Modan, to complete all the quests :)) Oh the journey will be fun...
This thought process is what I miss about classic WoW. There are no huge cut-scenes or dialogue to tell the player what's going on. I'm not saying that cut-scenes and dialogue are bad. I can appreciate the work that Blizzard has put into their storytelling over the years. However, a game that has too much hand-holding in the story department doesn't allow for a lot of individual thought. That's why I think people miss vanilla WoW so much. People back then were more creative with how they explored and actively looked for ways to entertain themselves. Reading a story is often more fun than watching a story because imagination comes into play. Even better is piecing together parts of the story by looking at the details that aren't spoon-fed to the reader. It's just way more fun to think about possibilities than to have all the answers from the start. Along with that, the simplicity of the fact that getting ganged up by two or three mobs can be a death sentence is more realistic to me than being able to mow down ten mobs like we've been doing for the past several expansions. True, classic WoW is more simple in terms of gameplay and abilities for both the player and the enemies but that just encourages players to, again, think of ways to come out on top. It makes players think "Okay, odds are not in my favor, here are my abilities, what do I have that can help me get the upper hand in this situation?" Even better is when it works.
I love this episode, it felt like a story. You should do something like this when classic releases. A story series of a character as he/she/them levels.
Wait, I played since TBC and i remember that even in the highest option of ''shadows'' in the graphics settings, you would see at most a little black circle under your character why does your character project a full hd rendered shadow?
Thats the way I used to play my rogue when I started playing back in cata. I would wander Azeroth and stealth into higher level zones just for the sake of adventure, and I tried to use any strategy to my advantage to get past thoose high level mobs. I remember that time I ended up in blasted lands, being lvl 20ish and without knowing there was a thing called heartstone. Also, I didn't have a clue about the warcraft universe, and because of that I didnt know where there could be an alied faction city, or how to cross the ocean back to Kalimdor. It was a hell of an adventure. I was playing a night elf rogue btw
What Nixxiom experienced inside that cave was more immersive and have more character than the last 3 expansions we've for from Blizzard for WoW. This is what Vanilla was about!!!!!
Awesome story time! I enjoyed the demo so much, even running around killing actual hordes of quillboars just to get that one rare down or get to the right mobs before the first ones started to respawn :) #Nostalgia
How will logging into Classic work versus BFA? Will there be a separate app in the Blizzard launcher or will it just be selecting a Classic realm from the BFA interface?
As a diehard Druid player during the original run of vanilla, I can attest to the joys and frustrations of stealthing through areas.It was slow... but fun and it saved my butt on numerous occasions, not just from the threat of mobs, but also the opposing faction. Unfortunately, if the opposing player was well above your level, you'd have to be like a mile away for them not to see you but I would try anyway, lol.
fun fact: the rogue Enthorial is Nixxiom before he was raised as a dk.
@Hysorn idk if you're joking or not, but Enthorial is actually Nix before he was raised, according to his roleplaying adventures
@@simmonsblue278 He probably wasnt. Plus Enthorial was the name of Nixxiom's Character when he did the video of the "Ishnu'ala guy"
@@blazeofglory2882 No I mean, when Nix did roleplaying, Enthorial was his main. When WotLK came out, he made the dk Nixxiom who was supposed to be Enthorial resurrected. He says all of this in the firesides with Nixxiom; would recommend.
yes I think that nicolas blue is saying that he "probably wasnt" joking about the connection
@@simmonsblue278
Everyone knows Nixxiom has been a death knight since classic wow...
Best WoW commercial i ever saw
Lmao
I hope that with Classic WoW low quality PvP videos with Down with the sickness playing in the background will make a comeback!
Lol, and all you angsty, wealthy white teens hated your parents and thought you were different and special!! Hahahahaha i remember those days :'l
@@youstolemyhandleyoutwat more like we were broke and stole money from our parents to play a game we couldnt afford to actually own
Rony Dominguez Only reason I got to play wow back in the day was cause my cousin was kind enough to let me make a guy on his account. I was a poor little fucker.
@@thunderborn3231 then you are not one of whom i spoke of, as we're sharing, i only got to play through constant 14 day trials with different emails, i too was poor lol
Ohh, and i ALWAYS avouded SW because my pc would crash. So i hung around darnassus and wetlands
The reason i like WoW classic more than the current one is because everything mattered. From the choices that you made to the kind of gear you needed to equip. Not gonna lie when you have to start off with grey gear before working your way up to green feels so much more impactful.
Yeah,getting a rare item felt great too
Getting your first epic was a really memorable experience too
not to mention, you can't just server hop if too many people are questing around you or the rare spawn you're looking for isn't up on your realm. People would rather server hop and keep questing solo than group with the few people they can see in their sharded world for content they're competing over.
yeah people say its more grindy but it doesn't matter if it takes a long time because its more rewarding and fun.
This video encompasses classic so well
Hyperbole?
"That treasure would have been arse"
There's a reason loot is sometimes called ''booty''.
Ahahah your comment fits your profile pic
"I was told to go west" - Vanilla in a nutshell.
actually Vanilla would have been.. "I was told to go west... but the objective was in the East"
dont know how many times i came across quests that had bad directions.
"Go west" is an idiom meaning "to die" and I reffered to it.
@@Auronn17 never heard of it... i was just being literal, and referred to past experiences.
Didn't expect many ppl to get it. :P
Go west young man
sneaking through mines in classic as a rouge? thats pretty much the first thing i did everytime i saw the two mines in elwyn forest, no matter how often i got killed or if i didnt got any loot, it was just... fun i guess :D
Rouges are overpowdered
Fargodeep mine man, those freaking kobolds.
God damn you really captured the spirit of why classic is so much better. Immersion, danger, need to tactics.
It's not better, it's slow. How poorly your comment, and this video, have aged.
Imagine this rogue experience just after the grind from lvl 1 to 10 without dual daggers... feeling of progression
Like a hunter getting it's pet at 10, druid getting Bear Form ect.. That bit of a extra feature is always a bonus progression.
when i finally got dual wield as a rogue i felt like a badass
I play the game how it was meant to be played without a group following me... unlike Asmongol. :D
well if you got a million stalkers following you around no matter if you want or not, i guess you dont have much of a choice xD
I'm fairly sure Asmo has done some solo play off stream. He's about as big of a classic fanboy as Nixxiom after all.
Your eldar Waifu is heretical.
i want them to take their time and make it the right way but at the same time i want the official release NOW!
Get out of here King of the Ultrasmurfs
ooh, this got me in the mood. Epic video m8, sounds like you had an awesome time. THIS is what WOW is all about.. epic vid. Really looking forward to Vanilla now.
Nixxiom I really want to play vanilla
You can, right now actualy
Yarr!! Ahoy, matey!
Private server: either Kronos II or Elysium previously Nostalrius.
@@killer2403Ma guy u still livin in early 2017 or somethin? Aint nobody playin on dem shitz
@@ilikepotatoes1345 Well, I had created a char on Kronos in 2017 and there were still plenty of people. I think they are still existing.
Oh look, an RPG.
oh look, a shitty overrated game thats going to die in 1 month. shut the fuck up, child.
Ray Heller What the fuck
@@rayheller9747, OH LOOK, A MORON UP HERE. :c
Lollllll
Ray has spent so much time saying classic sucked, that now that its a thing, he can't handle it.
Quick guys. Save his comment. Take pics. In 3 months, we'll cyberbully the f*ck out of him with how popular vanilla is xD
@Dr Boom ding ding ding.
You are correct sir.
And i didnt think about that after reading that dudes comment where he said it would be dead in 1 month.
He makes people around him dumber! Hes not an idiot. Hes a super genius. And hes fuckin with us lol
I just love the way to tell the story while playing. It's fun, it's immersive, it's thrilling, you want to know more, what lies behind the next hill, the next kill, the next treasurechest and you WANT TO PLAY THE GAME YOURSELF. Keep up the good work. Love your videos!!!
Beautiful video, Nixion.
I can relate to everything, including having time to think about the lore. Let see...
1- We didn't need content from Blizzard because the basic mechanic of the game provided so many interesting situations. Every play was different, with every class.
2- Because of the situations you got into each class had to be learned and played very different from one another. So, making alts and trying new classes was fun.
3- We also were not part of some franchise character's story. We were making our own stories.
4- The areas had their own local problems and mysteries, instead of all following a central theme/storyline or expansion world events, which made the world seem larger.
5- Because we had to walk from one place to the other, we had to learn to avoid mobs, discover paths etc.
6- Because there was no minimap aid, we had to read quests. And because there were less quests we didn't mind reading them.
7- The fact that mobs were difficult gave us the opportunity to choose from where to attack them, who to CC, watch for patrols, move patterns, pulling, LOS etc...
8- We also had to choose strategically where to sit to drink/eat
9- It was a huge pleasure, not just getting help from someone in a tight situation but also giving help. I remember that I loved helping my friends that I invited into the game with quests and leveling. That was so much fun! Now there is really no reason to...
Some cynic might say that you can do these things with "the XXX challenge" or whatever, but it's not the same, at all. When in Cata they changed the leveling exp and made the game 100% about end I immediately saw that the game had changed fundamentally. From then it was downhill to the collection of instanced/sharded/menued mini-games we have today. I wish they had grown wow more diagonally and not just vertically. More classes/ races, areas, professions, levels...
Well, thanks for the video. It expresses very well what a lot of us feel and can't easily express. This short list still seems like it's missing so much...
I think Live WoW is great, and I don't think Vanilla is superior at all. But... The design philosophy of classic WoW is more up my alley. The leveling experience IS the game instead of being filler. Being forced to learn your class and get help while leveling teaches people things that live simply doesn't. I'm a very new WoW player as I started playing around MoP. Unless you make use of supplementary resources (guides etc.) there is absolutely no way you know how to use your class properly by the time you get to the endgame. I was just confused. Since there is no need to socialize while leveling up either, you hit a brick wall once you are done with the very linear and hand-holdy questing that feels more like filler than the actual meat of the game. I still enjoy pursiong transmog items and various cool toys and gadgets in the game, but I'm really looking forward to classic for that "classic" rpg experience.
Dude, yeah. The whole expansion cycle should have been different. Less focus ing on the big bads, more exploring the world.
Possibly the best game-play video i have seen from the Wow Classic demo, and i have seen many by now. A big Thank You for that..
That sounded Epic, and I am so happy that you were able to have fantastic Adventure dispensing Justice and claiming the treasure that is rightfully yours. Your delivery honestly brought back many memories. Thank you.
Nixxion, I would seriously watch a series like this. Short stories from each zone told by you in this short format. Very enjoyable! :)
Absolutely loved your storytelling. You made 9 minutes fly by.
Can’t wait for the next one Nixxiom!
I can't wait to quest in zones like felwood and winterpring again. I remember entering those zones for the first time thinking the place looks and feels dangerous. It was great!!
yell yes. Tanaris, Un'goro, Winterspring, STV, some of my favorite zones while playing classic WoW. I would love to see Classic WoW continue through TBC and maybe WotLK then maybe veer off the retail WoW line with it's own fresh expansion that they would slowly develop on the side while we enjoy Classic and TBC at least. Cataclysm was okay, but MoP was really the beginning of the end. I'd really like to see them do an expansion for the Classic WoW line that keeps with the Classic WoW experience instead of trying to dumb the game down to make the game feel more "inclusive" or whatever they want to call it. Players should be expected to adapt to the challenges they face in the game, not cry to the game developer that it's too hard and it's preventing them from experiencing content.
Juvias Grey EPL for me
Can't wait. This one video can easily explain why Vanilla was so good. It's because of this quote "necessity is the mother of invention." Because of the difficulty of the simpilest mobs & that mobs would group up, making them even harder. So you come up with a strategy in necessity. Mabye you group up, or mabye you go with Nixxiom & sneak past areas that are too hard and use crowd control to pull mobs in relative safety. Because retail is so much easier & simpler. You don't have the *NECESSITY* to come up with strategies, due to the lack of changes in the game-play. Even minute ones, like an ominous cave guarded by powerful foes. Or a few mobs being put together that forces you to utilise CC. Simpler & easier = worse.
appsolute zero wise words my friend, wise words indeed
To be honest, I'm pumped for classic, but that feeling of fun leveling is only there until level 30ish, then it becomes a grind, but then it picks up right at 60 where the game becomes super fun as you gear up, then it dies down after BWL, and it the feeling of purples being purples fades away as you get more purps then you know what to do with.
Artificial difficulty you mean then yeah.
@@monandoboi7360 Yeah... It's a game, everything is artificial. Game devs decide everything that happens, since computers only do what they're told.
@@monandoboi7360 difficulty is difficulty no matter how smartly you try to word it
Old WoW made you have to strategize more, to prepare, to learn, to feel like you're actually there and with one false move it's all over! Sometimes even with a friend it could still be tough. You actually had to use your head!!
"Cockiness is the death of many adventurers."
me: **Goblin Slayer episode 1 flashbacks intensifies**
Man watching this brought back some fond memories of not only struggling over those specific quests but so much more. Sitting south of goldshire, looking in fear and wonder at the coast of duskwood and those high level spiders. Meeting people by the summoning stone outside of the dead mines. Even watching (and sometimes running) this undead rogue that plagued westfall on our server. Watching the region chat go crazy trying to find him was so fun.
Enjoyable! You made it sound so exciting! Now you're back on track, give us more like this please. :)
Having the talent trees, getting to choose what I improved and how I played brought back fond memories of the first time I ever played WoW, when my very first character was a night elf rogue. I'd put all my points into skills that improved my stealth, letting me be as sneaky as possible, back before I knew what optimal builds were, or that such a thing as a build even existed. I saw the chance to be a sneaky elf, someone who would never be caught, and on the off chance that someone attacked them they could vanish into the shadows and escape from any danger. I missed that feeling, before the time when it became almost second nature to look up the latest most optimal gear and talent builds for raiding and dungeons.
It was not a cave. It was a tomb..
Boromir!
What a great video. The storytelling + gameplay is on point and really just fit perfectly together. Great content Nixxion. Keep it up :)
I had so much fun watching this video because you just hear the excitement in your voice this makes it so amazing for me to watch
Keep it up
I like how the grass still has the WoD effects where it reacts to you walking through it. It's effects like these that I really don't mind being added to vanilla cuz they just add even more immersion.
I bet your adventure time was just how you remembered it. You could feel a touch of nostalgia every time you CC. You love it.
This is beautifull! u totaly get it nixxiom! this is how wow shall be played! good vid man! cant wait for classic. like the story with the rouge in the tunnel. its totaly how the classes should feel! amazing.
I mean, form an RPG perspective I really like that you can't just kill 10+ people with ease the way you can on live. It's just an entirely different game. Probably more immersive.
its not immersive at all. its fucking dogshit game. i hope it dies and blizzard shuts it down and then tells all its fan boys to eat a dick. fuck em
@@rayheller9747 so much hate :(
This... almost put a tear to my eye. I miss the days of old wow. Where I got lost in the world for hours and hours, all on my own... now it's nothing like that. Nixxiom, thank you so much for this. I have restored hope.
You just described why I love my rogue and why i love vanilla. That last sentence especially. Vanilla, in its very design, pushes you to group and meet people.
Its fun seeing different youtubers having fun with the demo. Hopefully Blizz considers another demo in the near future.
the way you portray your gameplay makes me remember leveling in westfall as a priest. Wasn't easy, died a lot, joined plenty of parties for similar quests. it was awesome. wasted a whole summer in middle school grinding levels.
I remember doing similar stuff in Classic with my Druid.
I still do. love sneaking in stealth across land and large crowds of Mobs, CC the ones that need to, taking care of the extra mobs, making sure I dont pull, Knowing when to interrupt and when to Stun, using potions, scrolls, ARMOR PATCH (cos leather working). Always ready and exited when friend wanted to party or do Dungeons! Standing in SW city or IronForge listening to chat asking for people to do dungeons or help for quests or trading materials (NOSTALGIA OVERDRIVE!!)
You sir made me excited to play Classic. I was gonna play anyways, but your video made me way more excited. Thank you!
That's the real WoW! Great video Nixxiom! Huge fan from Brazil
Great Video Nixxiom, the way you describe the events is immersive asf!
I needed this video. God that was pure gold. Nixxiom is the man!
and THAT is why classic (and TBC) were the best MMOs EVER. The immersion was intense and it was awesome!
rose tinted goggles.
@@rayheller9747 Nope. I played from early 2006 Vanilla (messed around on a friends account in earlier classic) and they obviously had their faults and DEFINITELY bugs galore. But Id take buggy classic or TBC over "bug free" live ANYDAY. They were immersive and social like an MMO is supposed to be. Were they perfect? No, but they were leaps and bounds better than anything after them.
i hope that after a while, like two years or so, they ll bring back TBC.. black temple, best days.
Man, as a 2018 wow player I can't wait for classic to come out.
I remember when I first played. I saw that portal, and immediately my mind thought:
So, another world?
Had I known of other games, media, as a kid, that had those things?
Yes, of course. I had seen cartoons. They had portals. Portals meant traveling to another place.
In my mind, it was immediately associated with somewhere else.
And as I got to play, and the Npcs addressed me, in deep voices, calming ones.
I was completely taken away from planet earth.
Being a six year old child with difficulty reading, I do not really remember what I read.
But I do remember what I heard.
Teldrassil's music. Oh, that sweet lullaby, those sounds of tigers and grellkin, I was whisked away from a life of my awkward upbringing and changed forever. I was an earthly denizen no longer... I was an azerothian, an adventurer. A world where I could escape my mortal bonds and be the brave hero I always wanted to be. A world where I was somebody.
And that feeling, was incredible.
It was not all great, as the pressure of not being able to respond to those typing to me as I grew older was increasingly frustrating, I taught myself to type, through world of warcraft. Through the intense need to give my hero a voice, I started with what I knew of the English alphabet, and in a few year's time, I was the fastest typer I knew.
The video was very well made and very well writen, props to you!
why have you stopped making machinimas?
Pickle jesus will unleash his wrath!
@@abnormal3027 Virgin
Because he doesn’t feel like it.
@@boretyy definitely virgin, with a kid.
J.F. Kennedy because it takes a decade to make a machinima. It's not easy to make
I enjoyed every second of this video. Thank Nixxiom, for doing what you do.
I honestly don't think this could have been shown any better. The mini adventures, the distractions and the vendettas, dying and plotting. This brought old WoW back to me so well. I can't wait.
Not playing in Westfall a lot over the years, I'd always assumed it was always just perpetual Fall there, and the harvests were in ;) LOL! That'll teach me to read Lore and play more Alliance now and then :D
Looking SO MUCH forward to this upcoming summer!
That feeling of stealth is why I played Subtlety, the feeling of seeing and not being seen, it was amazing. I loved. I've always like roges classes in general since then, and stealth games.
Man, this game was art... That connection between the pillagers and the burnt out farms was brand new to me, but then proccess od uncoverinf it is exactly what kept me hooked for so long.
I still remember the mine North of Azure Tower in Elwynn, or Northeast of Goldshire with Kobolds in It that you had to explore halfway through for a quest. When going there on my rogue/paladin/priest chars during classic wow 13 years ago I wanted to know what was beyond, but beyond were spider webs and dangereous mobs close to level 10, they were 8 or 9, possible a level 10 rare sometimes if I remember right and It was either that rare or a chest that had dropped there for me if I took the time to explore, sometimes cloth footwear would drop that'd reach up to your knees, that clothing I've remembered for 13 years now and have always went there to try and get them on new fresh alts just cause they look that cool to wear. And It felt dangereous going In there, spiders and all and then get rewarded with phat loot.
This is what I expect from Vanilla WoW, from a true WoW experience that sadly hasn't been delivered on In retail WoW for over 10 years now.
"Lfg deadmines"
"Twink or rogue?"
"Holy priest/Paladin"
*instant invite*
Vanilla Rogue 101: You can not dodge attacks from behind -> Don't turn your back on mobs while Evasion is up. Great video though man. A lot of fun!
I've always played a Night Elf Warrior and seeing that old model made so nostalgic. I cannot wait for classic
I love how NIxxiom narrates this...so beautiful!
Dude I don't know how you do it but your storytelling is amazing!
this was so enjoyable to watch , thank you !
I started in WOTLK and a lot of the elements of Vanilla were in the classic zones of EK/Kalmidor. I started as a human warrior. Westfall was no joke for a noob back then. The area by the entrance to VC was full of Defias and if you had 3-4 mobs on you, you better be lucky. I also remember before the map showed you where to go, 1 FP per zone and 1 hr CD on your hearthstone.
I was never any good at rogue, but you make me want to try again when Classic releases. Good job! :D
You successfully described why I fell in love with this game years ago.
I hunger for more videos like this :D nice job Nixxiom!!
That is awesome way to present, love the story!!
Ahh memmories flooding back. Thank you Nixxiom. My childhood came back to me.
See this blizzard. Next expansion re-introduce base spell damage to reduce player power scaling. A fireball from an NPC your level should do about 30-45% of a players HPs. Hide your quests all over the map. And most of all, bring back talent trees. Yes 90% of people went cookie cutter but the rest of us did great things with them.
Surprised to see you're still making 'em videos. Good on you! Xx
Love your videos man! You sure know how to me excited for vanilla!
There are still chests in the classic areas in the live game. Is true that the mobs hit harder back then, but you cant still play that sneaky way and role. That's up to you, and can be done in the live servers.
I thought this was great. you brought back some memories. I remember leveling to 60. It was hell. Can't wait for summer :)
Night Elf rogues are more difficult to detect and also got +1% Dodge and a second stealth ability(Shadowmeld) . Pretty handy, it's the best Alliance race for rogues PvP wise. Human rogue being the best for pve because of the sword/mace skill bonus (which increases your hit chance, very important in vanilla)
i did not start palying vanilla,but i started out in WOTLK, and i remmember creating human paladin called muffinhero(i was a kid) and leveling to 20 to get to Duskwood,and man,i will never forget that sensations and feelings when i stepped in that zone.Dark,shadow-wtisted part of Azeroth,loaded with mysteries and hazards.That feeling,when you start by killing wolfs and it slowly goes down to killing,skeletons,zombies in crypts,discovering that little lores which are all connected,discovering that tunnels in ravenhill catacombs.The atmosphere,which was filled with dread,the epic music,the quests,especially the big one called stalvan?i dont remember,in whichs end u got big 2 handed glowing sword called stalvans archerus i guess,and bigass portal in the center and dragon guarding it ...it was just amazing,i will never forget the feeling of just how massive is azeroth because such a little zone held so much mysteries.Good times
I didnt have a ticket and was not able to play the demo. I couldnt be bothered waiting so I just started on kronos ptivate servers. Wowl! it is so much fun. I forgot how much more immersive the game was. I even grouped up with another random player and had a great time doing quests. Cannot wait for classic wow. I am so excited for it!
"It was slow, I died a lot, had huge corpse runs and killing mobs took too much focus and time."
10/10, would Classic again.
It's stuff like this that convinces me that, even if I'm probably not going to have time for raiding, _classic wow will be fun enough to level in._
5:45 Aw man I remember that moment on my rogue. _First head slot item, and a worthy trophy after my wetlands run._
Nixium so far the best clasic promo vide i’v watched i am quitesure you were crazy happy to do it feels good !I can imagine u havent sleep on thw night to dollow lol
That's how you know you're a seasoned Rogue, when your first instinct is to stealth and pickpocket the mobs before attacking! Also remembering to apply poisons to your weapons before you leave town on your adventures, you develop a compulsion that's hard to break. Every single class has little tells like that, from Shamans keeping Lightning Shield up, Priests with maintaining Inner Fire, Warriors remembering to always have Battle Shout applied and Paladins having an excellent internal chronometer regarding their five minute Blessings!
Question...in the demo how did spell training work? I don't remember class trainers in Westfall in Vanilla. Especially for non human classes, like hunters.
So in other words, you did everything pretty much exactly the same as you can do in every WoW exp, including BFA?
So you had a real mom experience. I'm proud of you.
Challenge isn't a bad thing. Would you believe I've spoken to someone who has never seen any death animation in skyrim when he turned up the difficulty he was shocked and actually had fun.
Just change skyrim into wow in the above paragraph, boom vanilla.
I can't wait
Nixxiom you can make anything into an epic story lol. Hope you guys will have fun in Classic. I am gonna stick to my server on live.
im not a classic player. i started playing in MOP. but each time i hear about how hard everything was. i just love it more and more. i leveled my first character alone. and all through quest. i was a noob. but the best i had is that there's alot of challenges in it. plus i had three other dumbos with me questing. so it was fun AF.
Bit too cheesy but true to the bone.long live classic!
classic will be dead in 1 month and then blizzard will shut down the servers due to it being a massive failure. bye moron.
@@rayheller9747 if current wow improved that much that it leads to that I wouldnt really mind
@@VbrSoro current wow is fine as it is.
@@rayheller9747 imo youbjist have low expectations.but im glad you enjoy it
@Dr Boom iwas talking about.nix.thats why I said he was cheesy
Am i the only one who just loves wow more and more the more Nixxiom talks about it?
It sure will be fun seeing all the newer players that haven't played the "old" wow, if I may call it that way, or haven't played vanilla on Nostalrius and the other private servers, when they find out that in order to get from level 10-20, you'll need to go, for example, Westfall - Loch Modan - Westfall - Loch Modan, to complete all the quests :)) Oh the journey will be fun...
I'm so excited for the old druid class quests :D The time when Moonglade had a real purpose!
and i thought i was a nerd xD
great work quality in these videos.
best youtube channel keep rocking it bro
This thought process is what I miss about classic WoW. There are no huge cut-scenes or dialogue to tell the player what's going on. I'm not saying that cut-scenes and dialogue are bad. I can appreciate the work that Blizzard has put into their storytelling over the years. However, a game that has too much hand-holding in the story department doesn't allow for a lot of individual thought. That's why I think people miss vanilla WoW so much. People back then were more creative with how they explored and actively looked for ways to entertain themselves. Reading a story is often more fun than watching a story because imagination comes into play. Even better is piecing together parts of the story by looking at the details that aren't spoon-fed to the reader. It's just way more fun to think about possibilities than to have all the answers from the start.
Along with that, the simplicity of the fact that getting ganged up by two or three mobs can be a death sentence is more realistic to me than being able to mow down ten mobs like we've been doing for the past several expansions. True, classic WoW is more simple in terms of gameplay and abilities for both the player and the enemies but that just encourages players to, again, think of ways to come out on top. It makes players think "Okay, odds are not in my favor, here are my abilities, what do I have that can help me get the upper hand in this situation?" Even better is when it works.
This is a special kind of nostalgia for anyone who played a rogue in Vanilla
This is like an audio book, great video btw
What I love the most about Vanilla (Classic) is that 1-60 is a journey, not an end content destination.
I love this episode, it felt like a story. You should do something like this when classic releases. A story series of a character as he/she/them levels.
Wait, I played since TBC and i remember that even in the highest option of ''shadows'' in the graphics settings, you would see at most a little black circle under your character
why does your character project a full hd rendered shadow?
Thats the way I used to play my rogue when I started playing back in cata.
I would wander Azeroth and stealth into higher level zones just for the sake of adventure, and I tried to use any strategy to my advantage to get past thoose high level mobs.
I remember that time I ended up in blasted lands, being lvl 20ish and without knowing there was a thing called heartstone. Also, I didn't have a clue about the warcraft universe, and because of that I didnt know where there could be an alied faction city, or how to cross the ocean back to Kalimdor.
It was a hell of an adventure.
I was playing a night elf rogue btw
What Nixxiom experienced inside that cave was more immersive and have more character than the last 3 expansions we've for from Blizzard for WoW. This is what Vanilla was about!!!!!
This means that I will eventually be excited about collecting thorium and arcane crystals again?
Good times man, good times
Awesome story time! I enjoyed the demo so much, even running around killing actual hordes of quillboars just to get that one rare down or get to the right mobs before the first ones started to respawn :) #Nostalgia
How will logging into Classic work versus BFA? Will there be a separate app in the Blizzard launcher or will it just be selecting a Classic realm from the BFA interface?
As a diehard Druid player during the original run of vanilla, I can attest to the joys and frustrations of stealthing through areas.It was slow... but fun and it saved my butt on numerous occasions, not just from the threat of mobs, but also the opposing faction. Unfortunately, if the opposing player was well above your level, you'd have to be like a mile away for them not to see you but I would try anyway, lol.