I was one of those few people who grinded Timbermaw hold rep so I could get the +15 Agility enchant.. took me forever.. I saw furbies in my dreams for weeks.. the horror
3:30 It was not a license to print money.. it was horrible.. Many people wouldn't tip enchanters even though the materials cost tons of gold. You'd be lucky to get a 5g tip most times.
I also grinded timber rep for the enchant. For my 19 rogues and hunter. Also to enchant the rest of our twink guild. Not sure if I needed it for my hunter then or not but had them it for my rogues for sure. Trinket was good until you had the arena and fishing trinkets.
And that isn't even to Exalted. That grind is an additional 21000 rep, 50 at a time per 5-feather/bead turn-ins, and the very reason you keep them ALL until you hit Revered, but only if you're planning on pursuing Exalted. Mad that mistake in Vanilla, did it right in SoD, and proud to be sporting that summoning trinket after hitting Exalted.
While Classic was a grind, achieving your goals was more meaningful. In retail, every single item is indistinguishable from every other, even at the highest tiers. Item and level scaling was a mistake. In Classic, there were items you'd pursue for weeks, months even. This made everything you worked for worthwhile.
everyone seems to think the game was amazing "back the way they remember it" but in large the community was NEVER happy with the game at any point. As far back as the first patches the forums would be flooded with "im quitting, dead game, blizz dont care etc etc". The games too grindy, the games not grindy enough, bosses are too easy, bosses are too hard, PVP isnt balanced, PVP isnt fun because every class is the same. The wow community is the single most nostalgia drunk community of any game ever.
@Dennis Coffman so i guess thats why classic spiked and then nose dived for vanilla, TBC and WotLK. Because players that have romanticized the game for over a decade realise the game wasnt the main reason of their fond memories, it was the age at which they were playing. I'm not "just basing it on forums" either you presumptuous moron. Clearly you never played during that time otherwise youd remember the constant whining whether in be in raids, PVP, trade, general, groups... people are always seeking more and seldom sitting their beaming with delight as they play the game. Ironically, given your dumbass short story length rant, have always found something to enjoy about the game. Whether it was 2004 or Dragonflight there has always been pros and cons but so many old heads act like the game was ONLY good during the early years and im saying it wasnt the case (which now people have started to discover themselves by the hundreds of thousands)
Spot on @denniscoffman2919. The forums are a microscope of misery. The best thing the devs can do is limit their time on them. As for Vanilla, I think I'd know if I were suffering from nostalgia. I only play Classic now. Totally stopped playing Dragonflight after ripping to max level in a week. The real "grind" is dailies, mythic+ and the transmog/mount farms. Leveling in Vanilla never felt like a grind because the zones were rich, their stories charming, and the community as a whole was a lot of fun. I really missed early and mid-game dungeoning and elite open world group content, none of which exists in retail except as something to burn through to hit level cap. I'm glad Classic exists to accommodate this but knowing there will likely never be new content like it is a disappointment. The game, for 10M+ players, used to *be* the journey to max level and for some, the world PvP along the way-not instanced content like battlegrounds and raiding. If it's any consolation, the next game is not supposed to be an expansion but rather "the first chapter in the second phase of Warcraft's future," according to Ion, whatever that means. I'd love to see Azeroth reforged in a new graphics engine with a Classic style leveling experience. Otherwise, they should make each expansion take longer to level through and only release a new one every 3-4 years.
They ruined their own game, its not the only mmo split in half though (classic / retail) it seems to be the long term destiny of mmos. What they should do is stop updating the game once it starts performing well.. or release a voting system on updates *like other mmos* *cough*
I was halfway there when Cataclysm was announced. I decided to go for Vanilla Loremaster before launch. I completed the last quest the night before launch. With Cataclysm Frostsaber rep was nerfed, so I got that shortly after. I never completed Timberhold.
@@dsyncnsx7725 name some things less useless. Thank you for helping me with my life. Imagine if you didn't do somthing as meaningful as trolling wow UA-cam channels. Thx again
I got stuck home for medical reasons just when classic WoW launched. Grinded that shit too, it wasn't doing my mental health any favours. When I hit it, I didn't play for months. I tried returning a few months later but I haven't enjoyed WoW since.
Aged Gorilla Sinew: it _might_ drop on the first Mistvale gorilla, but probably will drop after the 40th, 60th, 100th gorilla. Or you might have to do a full gorilla holocaust several times before it drops. And if someone else in either your side or the other is also hunting them, well there goes a couple of hours minimal to get it. Great for skinners, though, and green loot. While doing this on my old Blood Elf hunter (now Undead) on the Mugthol PvP server, I had a Dranei shaman approach. Uh-oh, I thought, really we're going to duke it out now? Instead, he started to kill my target, but left me with the final kill. For over an hour we traded kills and helped each other. I finally got the drop, but continued helping him til he got his. Just because you're on a a PvP server doesn't always mean you have to be an asshole all the time.
I got #5 and #3... never going to do that again and my wife had words with me about my addiction to wow. Not recommended when you also want a real life.
I remember doing those Winterspring quests for the Saber. I had a Dwarf Paladin Main that was a mish-mash spec of Tank and Retribution, so shit damage to begin with which made everything take longer. Winterspring was one of my favorite zones, I was into RP-ing and loved Dun Morogh for the Dwarves, and there were very few snow places in Vanilla (I think the only other place was in the Alterac Mountains and the BG). I thought there'd be no better way to grind for something than by spending time in a Snow zone. Well, by the end, I HATED the zone so much from all the "kill the Chimaera" / "kill the Furbolgs" Quests. With my spec, it was impossible to kill the Giants so at one point I just gave up and did the Quests that were close to Frostsaber Rock. What's stupid of me is that I only did it because I was Exalted with Ironforge, Gnomeregan and Stormwind, but not Darnassus, and I thought the Saber mounts were the coolest. I think it would've been easier to just do all of the Night Elf zones to get Rep for one of their Mounts instead. Worse still, after flying came around in BC, I just used my Gryphon wherever I could fly and my generic Brown Ram everywhere else so the Frostsaber is somewhere in the list of Mounts and never gets used anyway... It turned out that the Mounts were pretty much designed for certain races only (I remember that only Gnomes and Dwarves could even use Mechanostriders at that time), so when I finally got the damned thing it looked huge compared to my Dwarf. I rode it a while just to feel like I hadn't wasted what seemed like half my lifetime to get it, but went back to my Ram after all :(
Not only is Rank 14 a grind, but i was part of a “cap” , which was a group of players that would rotate the rank so that others could not get it. This was done by keeping the honor threshold high to block people from getting it.
the missing keyword here is ACCOUNT-SHARING.. On most PvP servers there was always a group that as you said, rotated the rank14 title under them via account sharing. At least 1 Account will be played 24/7 in BG to ensure him the Rank14 title. I managed Rank11 on Guldan (EU), one of the most overpopulated and hyped PvP servers back than. I did had my 1st job at that time and it was a nightmare. 2 account sharing groups competing against each other and me doing solo farm (without group in BG as warlock). After I managed to get to Top40ish (managed to hold it for about a few months), I would had to play 24/7 to get any further (and I even outplayed some 24/7 accounts due to farm efficiency as solo warlock and due to having no real life over these months other than wow and my job, while dropping daily sleep to 4-5h over that time period..). A total nightmare, nothing else to say here.. xD
@@samurai7411 ? we just told how it was, not that we did it. Or do you see any sentence that either TalonTactical or me said that we did this (accountsharing). Learn to read with patience pls before jumping to conclusions -.-
I remember farming the Timbermaw rep! Spent days grinding and using a calculator to know exactly how many more I'd need to kill or how many beads/Feathers i needed..
In the Re-release of Classic their were organized groups that did premades, had a discord all that good stuff. I got to Rank 12 (11 was my goal, but I pushed for one more to get some gear) But there were a lot of people who made R14 this time around.
I did Timbermaw Hold back in TBC back when it was still a grind. Diplomat title, Ambassador, Guardian of Cenarius. 3 of the hardest titles back then...
The worst part about #1 grind for rank 14, is that all of that top PVP gear became absolutely useless when TBC expansion dropped. All that hard work for nothing in the end...
I am exalted with Timbermaw on my shaman (actual classic vanilla times). The trinket is not that good but the speech Thraal makes its really amazing, the whole Orgrimmar have me a /salute when I have achieved this one. Farming bears in resto was a pain the ass, that is true
High warlord was so worth it. Spend like 6 months in av. Then when you finally get the rank you dont have enough money so need to ask guild mates. Those days where fun 😅
I’m pretty new to wow, like I only started playing this weeks and Iv been playing classic instead of retail and I saw someone on that frost mount in iron forge earlier today and thought it looked cool and thought nothing of it and now I feel guilty for not standing there and making it known that I appreciate the effort they went to to get it lol
I never got rank 14, but would often be invited to our servers best BG group as a stand in. They needed plenty of stand ins for the warrior to maintain a good group to 5 cap arathi basin and win as fast as possible.
I remember vividly the day I quit Wow. It was very early days. I'd played from beta, but our guild was amateur at best. It was on an RP server because world pvp was a nosebleed if you wanted to actually quest at the time. I was an EQ1 vet, and had some other games under my belt. Wow was a beautiful, bright and colourful easymode in comparison (Most players had no idea how they were spoiled rotten with the big glowing question marks for quests and such.). Two years in I'd gotten my act together and was one of the main heals in our raidgroup. But the reality of the grind was getting on my nerves. There was one guy I knew, he was the one pro amongst us. A Warlock player, he lived for PVP. Highest ranking guy anyone in the raid group knew personally. The only reason he slumming on the server with us was to play alongside some players he knew IRL. Well one day this guy finally got a drop he'd been waiting months for. It was some offhand I think, and I listened to him gushing over Vent about it. This late twenties man was as giddy as a schoolboy. He linked the item. It was a fractional increase on what he had previously. He was more excited and proud than I was when I got laid for the first time. I sat at my keyboard, unable to conceive of any polite response. I was genuinely shocked. In that moment I realised I'd wasted near two years on this - and I wasnt even close to that level of investment in the game, and that I would be horrified if I had found myself to be. I quit the game, and went out drinking with some friends I'd been neglecting. I often wonder if that fella is still playing.
Might be a stupid question, but as a horde player, could you have an alliance friend Mind Control you, so you could get the quest for frost saber mount over and over again? I've done some MC shenanigans but never with trying to get a quest... So, if anyone knows...
Got the Winterspring Frostsaber mount. Took FOREVER. Was so glad I didnt have to do it again when WoW changed mount sharing for accounts. Now doing Classic and am seriously considering doing the grind. I must be insane.
Note Horde can kill the Wintersaber NPCs back in Vanilla I got MCed by a Horde priest who killed the NPCs and took me from honored to Neutral by killing both NPCs. After that I have refused to ever get the damn mount when a GM told me too bad so sad. Also as a Commander ranked Resto druid I knew the Rank 14 grind that I got screwed out of by a warrior breaking cap each week. I stopped at commander as resto didnt get honor unless you landed the killing blow.
The issue with enchanting back in the day was the difficulty in "selling" enchants. There weren't scrolls that you could put on the auction house. So announce in trade over and over and probably get ignored.
I can't believe you didn't mention the hidden effect of proccing Ironfoe! It causes all your say/yell text to be in dwarvish for a while! Yes, this includes horde!
I did the Timbermaw Hold rep grind back during BC, along with Sporregar and Mag'har, to get the Diplomat title, because, well, IRL I'm an actual diplomat haha, and it's still one of the things that brings me the most satisfaction every time I log in.
I have a friend who did the frost saber mount grind. He was one of the first to get it on our classic server and he basically did the farm 16 hours a day for 3 weeks minus raid times. I helped him with it sometimes and he made a pretty penny off the op consumables the mobs in the camp dropped. It was definitely a rough grind.
I did the winterspring frostsaber grind twice. Once on my human warlock. Rep was increased to 75 per quest and the frost maul was 125. So i got 82/83 and 140 per due to diplomacy. took about 2-3 weeks of full on questing. Go to raid, finish raid, hearth to everlook and start grinding. Second time was on my druid immediately after finishing my warlock. Druid took a month and a half due to burning out half way and 3/4 of the way. I took long breaks. All this was done on hughesnet satelite internet so some days I wasn't able to play because ping was over 2k. After killing all those mobs and looting my epic loots were the following: Winterspring Frostsaber.
Back in the days I had a long term sickness because I was involved in a accident. It was the only chance to get rank 14. It was even with this amount time available close to impossible
I got the frost sabre by accident. My wife was a hunter and we spent ages out there farming stuff. Gold was hard to make and being a hunter farming and making gear didn't involve r'n'g. So, we spent a lot of time there and just did everything in the zone to death.
I underestimated the ranking grind. Like I figured getting to rank 12 would be piece of cake, no big deal. Bro I was staying up all night, every night. Just massive gaming sessions of 12+hours straight. And I STILL only got rank 11. Just an insane grind.
I wonder why the mount of Baron Rivendare didnt make it to the list. Especially for Alliance side, it seems to be pretty unique. And Drop % should be lower than Ironfoe or others
I have it... the Winterspring Frostsaber mount. And I did all of the quests that you could do. If I remember correctly I would take both quests simultaneously to get as much rep as possible between turnins.
I'll be doing Timbermaw and Wintersaber, Gods help me...I can't raid any more due to health issues, so I need something to fill up my time, and those two will fit the bill very well.
@@HandoGamez I actually straight-up died when going through the first time. I took the rez-sickness and just bound the Hearthstone in Everlook. I had no idea killing Winterspring Furbolgs got you Rep with Timbermaw Hold, but after grinding for the Mount there I ended up turning them Neutral and then then just friendly. Back then, I thought it was some bug since most factions you needed Rep for started at least at Neutral. Since the Furbolgs had Quests and Merchants and stuff, I thought these should have been friendly since the Furbolgs and Night Elves were supposed to be tight. Heck, even the Tauren should be, one of the Hold exits is to the Moonglade, after all...
me and my guild ran into a lvl 14 grand marshall in Ironforge back in the day. We all crowded around him and /kneel 'd. I remember how insane it would have to be to get that
Didn't know Savage Gladiator armor was so hard to get... I guess I got lucky on my enhancement shammy back then. Frostsaber is easy, it just takes several days to grow up the cat. At least I sure don't remember it taking that many quests. You must be missing some info for sure? Or maybe I got it after vanilla... I remember back on Feathermoon RP server, there was a troll shaman RPer named Matsujin who was High Warlord. Imagine that. Dude has time to get that rank AND roleplay. There's a reason I still remember him to this dau.
I was on a PVP server during Wrath and got tired of being ganked. I went over to Winter Spring and spent all my time farming this rep. I have actually done this grind. Takes a long time.
back in vanillah days there was a hunter in my guild who was going for it. and he did get it. i would say about 2 months max he got it. i remember him literally being on every time i was on, and back then i did 14-18 hour gaming sessions. which i can no longer do or even want to do. his name was i believe lenhart or lionhart. night elf male. shadowmoon or dragonmaw server. cant remember as i played both servers. i remember him getting it finally and literally couple months later never saw him again.
I was a Magellan and got rank 14. I had a job. I played every night and loved PvP. It wasn't quite as bad as you make it out to be but you did need to play a lot. Nobody has ever been too impressed by the title I got and think in modern times there has only been one person ask me how I got the title. One person, that's it in 20 years.
I did rank 14 in early classic and after the grind and reaching rank 14 I bought all the weapons available for my rogue. After this I stopped playing PvP and lost rank 14. Around 2 or 3 weeks later, Blizzard added new Rank 14 weapons, I couldnt buy anymore, because I wasnt rank 14 anymore. That pissed me off so hard, I stopped playing official WoW and switched to private Servers.
My only gripe with the game is the RNG system with loot dropping. It was better when a token droped and you could go pick what you needed instead of possibly getting the same loot drop on the same boss weeks in a row. I got warforged pants 3 weeks in a row on a boss that droped 7 different items. With 5 different rolls for each item. Warforged, titanforged, normal, socketed, leech etc. and I got warforged 3 weeks in a row when I needed the boots. What are the chances that the same exact piece of loot would drop on a specific boss in a raid with 25 people in it?
I remember a buddy of mine and his younger brother would take turns grinding Battlegrounds to get to high warlord. It was an undead priest. That’s the ONLY two people I knew who were able to pull it off.
I ground out the winterspring frodtsaber mount. It put me very close to exhaulted with the timbermaw furbogs. I did this twice once each for warrior and rogue.
since it's a fixed amount to exalted, it doesn't matter at all when you turn in the items, because they always give the same rep, right?????? How does it matter when, if the value doesn't decrease or increase?
It matters because although the amount needed from start to finish is fixed, upon arriving at revered the action of killing one of the mobs is worthless towards gaining reputation. It might take a bit longer getting to revered by not turning in the items right away, but your overall efficiency is better because for each item that you hand in after revered, that's a mob drop that you also got the kill reputation for, versus one where you didn't if you farmed it after getting to revered. Say it takes 100 points to get to revered and another 100 for exalted (wildly inaccurate, but still) and you get 5 points for a kill and another 5 for an item. Handing them in together, it's 10 kills for revered and 20 more kills for exalted (assuming 100% item drop rate). Holding off on the item turn in however, and it's 20 kills for revered, and 0 kills for exalted because of the 20 items in reserve, so you save having to do 10 kills.
Dwight Schrute If he regularly plays WoW then yes he is a true WoW player. Your criteria that makes somebody “a true WoW player” is beyond irrelevant because WoW is a game and this guy PLAYS that game. Him only having half of the neck beard that you do doesn’t change that fact.
@@LunchboyXD every time I get the notion that the human race is worth trying to save, I just go to the comment section on you tube and read comments like yours. Thank you for reminding me once again why this species needs to die forever asap
Nah he's right. Can you even see the irony of your comment about having a sad life in that dark basement you dwell in? Also is that a Cyr twitch reference? Fred Hurst?
As Alliance do the winterspring trainers quests at the same time as the wintermaw rep because you'll get wintermaw rep for killing the furlbogs and the necklaces.
I grinded winterspring mount back in vanilla as a full time hardcore holy priest, so i had no spell dmg, no dmg at all and could not keep swapping specs to have dmg for the grinding either due to respec costs back then. Yup, took a toll...
Back in the day, I got both Exalted with Timbermaw Hold, getting the Trinket, and then the Frostsaber mount. I don't even want to think about how long it took me to do those. Playing Horde this time around, so yeah going for that Timbermaw Hold trinket "Defender of the Timbermaw" once again. If I make an Alliance character (on a server with 75% Alliance) I would of course go after the Frostsaber Mount once again.
For me the Timbermaw rep wasn't that bad and back in Vanilla I only had 1 main and I didn't start until several months before BC came out but I managed to get my saber along with barely missing Grand Marshal. I had to get this mount because the epic sabers looked terribad but even worse I grinded three of them in Classic, Rogue, Drood and Warrior and at the end the village was so populated I just did the chance drop meat quest. I hated the fact that Blizz didn't at least change the look of the mount a little to distinguish who got it the right way and who got it after they nerfed the shit out of the grind.
I still dont know a single person that got the Winterspring mount. I mean Ive sure Ive seen one in 15 years, but Ive never actually known anyone personally that did it. That is an INSANE grind.
Once you get your alchemy alt at your main farming toon with some Naxx gear, everything in classic is EZ. Naxx in 1 or 2 nights. Maybe more if you're a grassroots guild. Basically you have herb and engineering as your proffs for your 1 toon, then mining engineering for another. Then a caster or healer clothy with talioring enchanting and hope theres enough to kill slime globs in AQ40. Repeat this every week with the people you meet and wowzers. Soon, you can have multiple toons with T3 tokens in their bank. 2.5 is basically free if your guild maintains farming AQ 40. Everyone still wants stuff from BWL. The best eay to run these classic Naxx farm guilds is to have parse requirments on individual toons to advance from BWL to AQ 40 and then to Naxx so your sure either play skill or gear is enough to preform in each raid.
Could you mind control the Npc as horde? There's another one for I think darkiron (not a grind but similar need to mind control to talk to em) and get the quest, go do the quest, come back, mind control, turn in qiest, et cetera?
For more context on how hard rank 14 was to get, the highest I ever got was rank 10 and I mostly pvpd pn lvl 19 and 29 twinks. Only pve to get twink stuff, lots of hks and wins etc.
Young me was crazy... Was cruising around on my Wintersaber mount with my Bloodsail Admiral title and hat. Absolute lunatic.
Who hurt you bro damn
I did that too 😂
I was one of those few people who grinded Timbermaw hold rep so I could get the +15 Agility enchant.. took me forever.. I saw furbies in my dreams for weeks.. the horror
3:30 It was not a license to print money.. it was horrible.. Many people wouldn't tip enchanters even though the materials cost tons of gold. You'd be lucky to get a 5g tip most times.
I also grinded timber rep for the enchant. For my 19 rogues and hunter. Also to enchant the rest of our twink guild. Not sure if I needed it for my hunter then or not but had them it for my rogues for sure. Trinket was good until you had the arena and fishing trinkets.
And the +15 agi is only at honored or revered state, imagine !
And that isn't even to Exalted. That grind is an additional 21000 rep, 50 at a time per 5-feather/bead turn-ins, and the very reason you keep them ALL until you hit Revered, but only if you're planning on pursuing Exalted.
Mad that mistake in Vanilla, did it right in SoD, and proud to be sporting that summoning trinket after hitting Exalted.
and now in classic+.
there's more people doing the same grind :)
While Classic was a grind, achieving your goals was more meaningful. In retail, every single item is indistinguishable from every other, even at the highest tiers. Item and level scaling was a mistake. In Classic, there were items you'd pursue for weeks, months even. This made everything you worked for worthwhile.
everyone seems to think the game was amazing "back the way they remember it" but in large the community was NEVER happy with the game at any point. As far back as the first patches the forums would be flooded with "im quitting, dead game, blizz dont care etc etc". The games too grindy, the games not grindy enough, bosses are too easy, bosses are too hard, PVP isnt balanced, PVP isnt fun because every class is the same. The wow community is the single most nostalgia drunk community of any game ever.
@Dennis Coffman so i guess thats why classic spiked and then nose dived for vanilla, TBC and WotLK. Because players that have romanticized the game for over a decade realise the game wasnt the main reason of their fond memories, it was the age at which they were playing. I'm not "just basing it on forums" either you presumptuous moron. Clearly you never played during that time otherwise youd remember the constant whining whether in be in raids, PVP, trade, general, groups... people are always seeking more and seldom sitting their beaming with delight as they play the game. Ironically, given your dumbass short story length rant, have always found something to enjoy about the game. Whether it was 2004 or Dragonflight there has always been pros and cons but so many old heads act like the game was ONLY good during the early years and im saying it wasnt the case (which now people have started to discover themselves by the hundreds of thousands)
Spot on @denniscoffman2919. The forums are a microscope of misery. The best thing the devs can do is limit their time on them. As for Vanilla, I think I'd know if I were suffering from nostalgia. I only play Classic now. Totally stopped playing Dragonflight after ripping to max level in a week. The real "grind" is dailies, mythic+ and the transmog/mount farms. Leveling in Vanilla never felt like a grind because the zones were rich, their stories charming, and the community as a whole was a lot of fun. I really missed early and mid-game dungeoning and elite open world group content, none of which exists in retail except as something to burn through to hit level cap. I'm glad Classic exists to accommodate this but knowing there will likely never be new content like it is a disappointment. The game, for 10M+ players, used to *be* the journey to max level and for some, the world PvP along the way-not instanced content like battlegrounds and raiding. If it's any consolation, the next game is not supposed to be an expansion but rather "the first chapter in the second phase of Warcraft's future," according to Ion, whatever that means. I'd love to see Azeroth reforged in a new graphics engine with a Classic style leveling experience. Otherwise, they should make each expansion take longer to level through and only release a new one every 3-4 years.
@@justmedee 100% accurate.
They ruined their own game, its not the only mmo split in half though (classic / retail) it seems to be the long term destiny of mmos. What they should do is stop updating the game once it starts performing well.. or release a voting system on updates *like other mmos* *cough*
Ah, the Winterspring Frostsaber. I did that grind. Love the mount. In fact it's still my primary mount.
Same
Horde player. Your white tiger mount looks just like the other elf mounts.
Yeah, it took me a whole week to get.
@@tommyjones1357 I don't see the difference ^^
And. Ur orc females are man with boobs. Tauren man or females are the same. Troll females Male are the same. @@tommyjones1357
I did both fullborg and frostsaber mount grinds. There was a huge feeling of satisfaction once they where done.
Did those and the booty bay buccs, trinket always freaked out random BC noobs
i did that grind multiple times on vanilla and bc jsut because i like to try complete everything.
I was halfway there when Cataclysm was announced. I decided to go for Vanilla Loremaster before launch. I completed the last quest the night before launch.
With Cataclysm Frostsaber rep was nerfed, so I got that shortly after. I never completed Timberhold.
@@dsyncnsx7725 name some things less useless. Thank you for helping me with my life. Imagine if you didn't do somthing as meaningful as trolling wow UA-cam channels. Thx again
Did both of those during WotLK. The Frostsaber is my favorite ground mount and I use it on all of my toons.
Player: (sees a rank 14.) "you're welcome."
Rank 14: "what for?"
Player: "your welfare check. No way your employed with a weapon like that."
also drink mtn dew for that +15 increased stamina
I might try for it, but don't worry, I'm living on savings. :)
Honestly these days. They could be twitch streamers. Some people do make their living that way.
Why you hatin tho
I work from home so it wouldnt be that hard to farm 10-14 hrs/day
I had a depression back then and grinded rank 14 on my undead rogue.. Grinded 1 million honor a week for 5 months..
That didnt help your depression did it? Nope.
I got stuck home for medical reasons just when classic WoW launched. Grinded that shit too, it wasn't doing my mental health any favours. When I hit it, I didn't play for months. I tried returning a few months later but I haven't enjoyed WoW since.
omg I remember grinding the Furbolg reputation... thanks for the memory, earned a sub
I got exalted with Timbermaw back in Vanilla because I had nothing better to do before BC launched. Totally worth it for the trinket.
I did it for the Diplomat title.
Aged Gorilla Sinew: it _might_ drop on the first Mistvale gorilla, but probably will drop after the 40th, 60th, 100th gorilla. Or you might have to do a full gorilla holocaust several times before it drops. And if someone else in either your side or the other is also hunting them, well there goes a couple of hours minimal to get it. Great for skinners, though, and green loot.
While doing this on my old Blood Elf hunter (now Undead) on the Mugthol PvP server, I had a Dranei shaman approach. Uh-oh, I thought, really we're going to duke it out now? Instead, he started to kill my target, but left me with the final kill. For over an hour we traded kills and helped each other. I finally got the drop, but continued helping him til he got his. Just because you're on a a PvP server doesn't always mean you have to be an asshole all the time.
I love killing low levels on my level 80
@@Blernster ah so you're a douche who should be banned. Good to know.
Im playing HC atm on the new servers. Got it my first gorilla kill, oh the luck !
my Level 60 Druid was able to kill the Elite Giants ... but at the time i never knew about the kill quest
#5 Timbermaw Hold
#4 Savage Gladiator Chain
#3 Winterspring Frostsaber
#2 Ironfoe
#1 Rank 14
Warlord title all day every day!
Cheers
and friendly with bloodsail buccaneers
@@blalink6458 IS that possible?
I got #5 and #3... never going to do that again and my wife had words with me about my addiction to wow. Not recommended when you also want a real life.
"Forever" he says. He obviously never played RuneScape.
Exactly my thoughts while playing WoW classic for the first time lol. These grinds are okayish to me haha.
@@Dutchpkking0 Yeah first time playing Vanilla and its really not as 'brutal' as i thought it'd be. Regardless it still is very fun.
@@ifs1037 nah none of them outside the pvp one are bad, pretty routine imo
Runescape? You mean Ragnarok Online
@@merogin yeah I heard about the rank 14 grind, that ones more intense then anything in osrs, required non stop 12 hrs minimum a day for 3 months +
I still have my Winterspring Frostsaber to this day!
Same here :) Still the most favorite mount I own.
I was one of the people who handed the quest items for the Timbermaw before getting to revered. ;_;
you are not alone, my weary friend.
me too I don't think I even grinded to revered though
Rivendare: Is my mount a joke to you?
yah i did strat at least 300 times. no mount.
I saw it drop on one of my first runs ever.. never saw it againn
I ran Strat at least once a day for who knows how long to get that. Although that was soloing post 60 so admittedly less arduous
I remember doing those Winterspring quests for the Saber. I had a Dwarf Paladin Main that was a mish-mash spec of Tank and Retribution, so shit damage to begin with which made everything take longer.
Winterspring was one of my favorite zones, I was into RP-ing and loved Dun Morogh for the Dwarves, and there were very few snow places in Vanilla (I think the only other place was in the Alterac Mountains and the BG). I thought there'd be no better way to grind for something than by spending time in a Snow zone.
Well, by the end, I HATED the zone so much from all the "kill the Chimaera" / "kill the Furbolgs" Quests. With my spec, it was impossible to kill the Giants so at one point I just gave up and did the Quests that were close to Frostsaber Rock.
What's stupid of me is that I only did it because I was Exalted with Ironforge, Gnomeregan and Stormwind, but not Darnassus, and I thought the Saber mounts were the coolest. I think it would've been easier to just do all of the Night Elf zones to get Rep for one of their Mounts instead.
Worse still, after flying came around in BC, I just used my Gryphon wherever I could fly and my generic Brown Ram everywhere else so the Frostsaber is somewhere in the list of Mounts and never gets used anyway... It turned out that the Mounts were pretty much designed for certain races only (I remember that only Gnomes and Dwarves could even use Mechanostriders at that time), so when I finally got the damned thing it looked huge compared to my Dwarf. I rode it a while just to feel like I hadn't wasted what seemed like half my lifetime to get it, but went back to my Ram after all :(
Oh man i feel for you ^_^
Nice content like always, thanks Vaulty !
Not only is Rank 14 a grind, but i was part of a “cap” , which was a group of players that would rotate the rank so that others could not get it. This was done by keeping the honor threshold high to block people from getting it.
the missing keyword here is ACCOUNT-SHARING..
On most PvP servers there was always a group that as you said, rotated the rank14 title under them via account sharing. At least 1 Account will be played 24/7 in BG to ensure him the Rank14 title.
I managed Rank11 on Guldan (EU), one of the most overpopulated and hyped PvP servers back than. I did had my 1st job at that time and it was a nightmare. 2 account sharing groups competing against each other and me doing solo farm (without group in BG as warlock). After I managed to get to Top40ish (managed to hold it for about a few months), I would had to play 24/7 to get any further (and I even outplayed some 24/7 accounts due to farm efficiency as solo warlock and due to having no real life over these months other than wow and my job, while dropping daily sleep to 4-5h over that time period..).
A total nightmare, nothing else to say here.. xD
So you were an a-hole? Cool. Hope you're better now mate!
@@samurai7411 ?
we just told how it was, not that we did it. Or do you see any sentence that either TalonTactical or me said that we did this (accountsharing).
Learn to read with patience pls before jumping to conclusions -.-
@@johnsmoke1785 I hit that wall too, I only made it to rank 10 though. Solo BGs sucked.
@samurai7411 only a-hole here is you! Cheers mate
I remember farming the Timbermaw rep! Spent days grinding and using a calculator to know exactly how many more I'd need to kill or how many beads/Feathers i needed..
Winterspring Frostaber, yeah I've done that grind.
Me too... during vanilla, I never tought about how much time I put into it xD
Only got one whisker. That place was so far away
i remember when i had to farm SGC. took me around 250ish run, i will never forget it
In the Re-release of Classic their were organized groups that did premades, had a discord all that good stuff. I got to Rank 12 (11 was my goal, but I pushed for one more to get some gear) But there were a lot of people who made R14 this time around.
I did Timbermaw Hold back in TBC back when it was still a grind. Diplomat title, Ambassador, Guardian of Cenarius. 3 of the hardest titles back then...
I'm mained a druid so never had a reason to do timbermaw until BC for the title :)
I had those...still think the insane title was the worst grind though. (got it pre-nerf)
The worst part about #1 grind for rank 14, is that all of that top PVP gear became absolutely useless when TBC expansion dropped.
All that hard work for nothing in the end...
Most of the items were already useless when AQ opened.......
Got exalted either in Vanilla or TBC. I never did the math, though - I don't think I ever realized how many of those Furbolgs I killed.
CAJ in Texas You’re a genocidal monster 😂😂😂
One of the things I enjoyed in WoW was collecting the different mounts; I was so happy when I finally got my Wintersaber.
I hear you, my Wintersaber mount was probably the most memorable grind I went through.
And pets.
Winterspring Frostsaber: DONE!
I am exalted with Timbermaw on my shaman (actual classic vanilla times). The trinket is not that good but the speech Thraal makes its really amazing, the whole Orgrimmar have me a /salute when I have achieved this one.
Farming bears in resto was a pain the ass, that is true
High warlord was so worth it. Spend like 6 months in av. Then when you finally get the rank you dont have enough money so need to ask guild mates. Those days where fun 😅
Can a horde priest mind control to grab the quests?
@tim casentini afaik apart from goblin in BWL and may be some others though.
I’m pretty new to wow, like I only started playing this weeks and Iv been playing classic instead of retail and I saw someone on that frost mount in iron forge earlier today and thought it looked cool and thought nothing of it and now I feel guilty for not standing there and making it known that I appreciate the effort they went to to get it lol
I never got rank 14, but would often be invited to our servers best BG group as a stand in. They needed plenty of stand ins for the warrior to maintain a good group to 5 cap arathi basin and win as fast as possible.
Take a shot every time Vaulty says "amazing". I bet you won't make it through the entire video lmao. Great content as always my dude!
I remember vividly the day I quit Wow. It was very early days. I'd played from beta, but our guild was amateur at best. It was on an RP server because world pvp was a nosebleed if you wanted to actually quest at the time. I was an EQ1 vet, and had some other games under my belt. Wow was a beautiful, bright and colourful easymode in comparison (Most players had no idea how they were spoiled rotten with the big glowing question marks for quests and such.). Two years in I'd gotten my act together and was one of the main heals in our raidgroup. But the reality of the grind was getting on my nerves.
There was one guy I knew, he was the one pro amongst us. A Warlock player, he lived for PVP. Highest ranking guy anyone in the raid group knew personally. The only reason he slumming on the server with us was to play alongside some players he knew IRL. Well one day this guy finally got a drop he'd been waiting months for. It was some offhand I think, and I listened to him gushing over Vent about it. This late twenties man was as giddy as a schoolboy. He linked the item. It was a fractional increase on what he had previously. He was more excited and proud than I was when I got laid for the first time. I sat at my keyboard, unable to conceive of any polite response. I was genuinely shocked. In that moment I realised I'd wasted near two years on this - and I wasnt even close to that level of investment in the game, and that I would be horrified if I had found myself to be. I quit the game, and went out drinking with some friends I'd been neglecting. I often wonder if that fella is still playing.
loving all the classic tips there really helpful thank you :)
The rep grinds in classic are extremely time consuming. Its crazy how much easier they made them in all of the subsequent expansions.
Mike Hagan yeah making them more diverse instead of 10Xs easier would of been better.
Might be a stupid question, but as a horde player, could you have an alliance friend Mind Control you, so you could get the quest for frost saber mount over and over again? I've done some MC shenanigans but never with trying to get a quest... So, if anyone knows...
I had a Winterspring Frostsaber with my Paladin. I think it was the only one on Daggerspine back in the day when WoW first came out. Took bloody ages.
Got the Winterspring Frostsaber mount. Took FOREVER. Was so glad I didnt have to do it again when WoW changed mount sharing for accounts. Now doing Classic and am seriously considering doing the grind. I must be insane.
I did the Timbermaw Hold and Winterspring Trainer rep grind back in the day.
Same. did it as a rogue during BC i think.
So did i mate i wanted that mount so bad
Note Horde can kill the Wintersaber NPCs back in Vanilla I got MCed by a Horde priest who killed the NPCs and took me from honored to Neutral by killing both NPCs. After that I have refused to ever get the damn mount when a GM told me too bad so sad. Also as a Commander ranked Resto druid I knew the Rank 14 grind that I got screwed out of by a warrior breaking cap each week. I stopped at commander as resto didnt get honor unless you landed the killing blow.
The issue with enchanting back in the day was the difficulty in "selling" enchants. There weren't scrolls that you could put on the auction house. So announce in trade over and over and probably get ignored.
I can't believe you didn't mention the hidden effect of proccing Ironfoe! It causes all your say/yell text to be in dwarvish for a while! Yes, this includes horde!
think u made a mistake..
this vid is longer then 10:04
A guild member of mine did the frostsaber grind. He spent day and night grinding. Took him over a month of pure grinding, I believe.
Bloodsail Bucaneeers rep grind should've been on the list. That was insane, especially if you had first quested in STV..
I did the Timbermaw Hold rep grind back during BC, along with Sporregar and Mag'har, to get the Diplomat title, because, well, IRL I'm an actual diplomat haha, and it's still one of the things that brings me the most satisfaction every time I log in.
Ironfoe... HUNTAR WEPON
b-but, you can't even carry a ma...nvm
HUNTAR WEPON!!
@@kuhnandreas5694 XD
I have a friend who did the frost saber mount grind. He was one of the first to get it on our classic server and he basically did the farm 16 hours a day for 3 weeks minus raid times. I helped him with it sometimes and he made a pretty penny off the op consumables the mobs in the camp dropped. It was definitely a rough grind.
I did the winterspring frostsaber grind twice. Once on my human warlock. Rep was increased to 75 per quest and the frost maul was 125. So i got 82/83 and 140 per due to diplomacy. took about 2-3 weeks of full on questing. Go to raid, finish raid, hearth to everlook and start grinding.
Second time was on my druid immediately after finishing my warlock. Druid took a month and a half due to burning out half way and 3/4 of the way. I took long breaks.
All this was done on hughesnet satelite internet so some days I wasn't able to play because ping was over 2k.
After killing all those mobs and looting my epic loots were the following: Winterspring Frostsaber.
What about farming Blade of eternal darkness? Solo princess runs for 0,2% drop chance, that's sick.
Back in the days I had a long term sickness because I was involved in a accident. It was the only chance to get rank 14.
It was even with this amount time available close to impossible
I know a man that played 9 mounths 5 hours per day on classsic and he took grandmarchel level 14.
Oh man... Winterspring... What a grind. Thank goodness I was in high school at the time. I'd never have the time today.
Timbermaw back in the day, there were loads of tricks that folks knew about. It took about 2 hours to get to exalted.
The medicine pouch from timbermaw is BiS offhand for 19 caster twinks too
Yeah I did this, but on a dwarf hunter
I got the frost sabre by accident. My wife was a hunter and we spent ages out there farming stuff. Gold was hard to make and being a hunter farming and making gear didn't involve r'n'g. So, we spent a lot of time there and just did everything in the zone to death.
I underestimated the ranking grind. Like I figured getting to rank 12 would be piece of cake, no big deal. Bro I was staying up all night, every night. Just massive gaming sessions of 12+hours straight. And I STILL only got rank 11. Just an insane grind.
I wonder why the mount of Baron Rivendare didnt make it to the list. Especially for Alliance side, it seems to be pretty unique. And Drop % should be lower than Ironfoe or others
I have it... the Winterspring Frostsaber mount. And I did all of the quests that you could do. If I remember correctly I would take both quests simultaneously to get as much rep as possible between turnins.
I'll be doing Timbermaw and Wintersaber, Gods help me...I can't raid any more due to health issues, so I need something to fill up my time, and those two will fit the bill very well.
I suggest doing the furbolg quest only then and using that to grind both simultaneously
@@HandoGamez I actually straight-up died when going through the first time. I took the rez-sickness and just bound the Hearthstone in Everlook. I had no idea killing Winterspring Furbolgs got you Rep with Timbermaw Hold, but after grinding for the Mount there I ended up turning them Neutral and then then just friendly.
Back then, I thought it was some bug since most factions you needed Rep for started at least at Neutral. Since the Furbolgs had Quests and Merchants and stuff, I thought these should have been friendly since the Furbolgs and Night Elves were supposed to be tight. Heck, even the Tauren should be, one of the Hold exits is to the Moonglade, after all...
WHAT GRAPHIC SETTINGS DO YOU USE DUDE??
Do you use any reshades/ENB etc?
I grinded out "The Insane" later in WotLK. Baron's mount in classic was a slog as well.
me and my guild ran into a lvl 14 grand marshall in Ironforge back in the day. We all crowded around him and /kneel 'd. I remember how insane it would have to be to get that
Didn't know Savage Gladiator armor was so hard to get... I guess I got lucky on my enhancement shammy back then.
Frostsaber is easy, it just takes several days to grow up the cat. At least I sure don't remember it taking that many quests. You must be missing some info for sure? Or maybe I got it after vanilla...
I remember back on Feathermoon RP server, there was a troll shaman RPer named Matsujin who was High Warlord. Imagine that. Dude has time to get that rank AND roleplay. There's a reason I still remember him to this dau.
I was on Feathermoon in 2005-2009 for sure.... I was Alliance though. That name sounds familiar.
I was on a PVP server during Wrath and got tired of being ganked. I went over to Winter Spring and spent all my time farming this rep. I have actually done this grind. Takes a long time.
back in vanillah days there was a hunter in my guild who was going for it. and he did get it. i would say about 2 months max he got it. i remember him literally being on every time i was on, and back then i did 14-18 hour gaming sessions. which i can no longer do or even want to do. his name was i believe lenhart or lionhart. night elf male. shadowmoon or dragonmaw server. cant remember as i played both servers. i remember him getting it finally and literally couple months later never saw him again.
I guess he finished the game. Burned out and thats that
I was a Magellan and got rank 14. I had a job. I played every night and loved PvP. It wasn't quite as bad as you make it out to be but you did need to play a lot. Nobody has ever been too impressed by the title I got and think in modern times there has only been one person ask me how I got the title. One person, that's it in 20 years.
ironfoe is also BIS for tanks as multiple swings equal more threat equals more rage equals more shield slams and other abilities
I did rank 14 in early classic and after the grind and reaching rank 14 I bought all the weapons available for my rogue. After this I stopped playing PvP and lost rank 14. Around 2 or 3 weeks later, Blizzard added new Rank 14 weapons, I couldnt buy anymore, because I wasnt rank 14 anymore. That pissed me off so hard, I stopped playing official WoW and switched to private Servers.
My only gripe with the game is the RNG system with loot dropping. It was better when a token droped and you could go pick what you needed instead of possibly getting the same loot drop on the same boss weeks in a row. I got warforged pants 3 weeks in a row on a boss that droped 7 different items. With 5 different rolls for each item. Warforged, titanforged, normal, socketed, leech etc. and I got warforged 3 weeks in a row when I needed the boots. What are the chances that the same exact piece of loot would drop on a specific boss in a raid with 25 people in it?
Winterspring Frostsaber is the OG grind mount. Got it during TBC and still ride it, even in the Dragon Isles.
Basicly the rank 14 grind only usage was to filter out the account sharing players who grinded 24 hours / day
Wouldn’t that only make the account sharing more advantageous ?
I remember a buddy of mine and his younger brother would take turns grinding Battlegrounds to get to high warlord. It was an undead priest. That’s the ONLY two people I knew who were able to pull it off.
I ground out the winterspring frodtsaber mount. It put me very close to exhaulted with the timbermaw furbogs. I did this twice once each for warrior and rogue.
since it's a fixed amount to exalted, it doesn't matter at all when you turn in the items, because they always give the same rep, right?????? How does it matter when, if the value doesn't decrease or increase?
It matters because although the amount needed from start to finish is fixed, upon arriving at revered the action of killing one of the mobs is worthless towards gaining reputation. It might take a bit longer getting to revered by not turning in the items right away, but your overall efficiency is better because for each item that you hand in after revered, that's a mob drop that you also got the kill reputation for, versus one where you didn't if you farmed it after getting to revered.
Say it takes 100 points to get to revered and another 100 for exalted (wildly inaccurate, but still) and you get 5 points for a kill and another 5 for an item.
Handing them in together, it's 10 kills for revered and 20 more kills for exalted (assuming 100% item drop rate). Holding off on the item turn in however, and it's 20 kills for revered, and 0 kills for exalted because of the 20 items in reserve, so you save having to do 10 kills.
He sounds exactly how I expected a WOW player to sound.
Weawy?
Dwight Schrute If he regularly plays WoW then yes he is a true WoW player. Your criteria that makes somebody “a true WoW player” is beyond irrelevant because WoW is a game and this guy PLAYS that game. Him only having half of the neck beard that you do doesn’t change that fact.
@@LunchboyXD every time I get the notion that the human race is worth trying to save, I just go to the comment section on you tube and read comments like yours. Thank you for reminding me once again why this species needs to die forever asap
Nah he's right. Can you even see the irony of your comment about having a sad life in that dark basement you dwell in? Also is that a Cyr twitch reference? Fred Hurst?
I get PTSD thinking back on these grinds on my warrior.
you forgot to add for the winterspring frostsaber mount you also have to get exalted with darnassus (if you are not a night elf)
josh delf I know 😭😭😭
As Alliance do the winterspring trainers quests at the same time as the wintermaw rep because you'll get wintermaw rep for killing the furlbogs and the necklaces.
I completed #2/3/5. But I went revered to timbermaw for my enchanter.. great video plan on doing these again.!
I did the winterspring fs mount durung endless guild officer discussions. farming the rep while discussing was better than jumping through IF
I grinded winterspring mount back in vanilla as a full time hardcore holy priest, so i had no spell dmg, no dmg at all and could not keep swapping specs to have dmg for the grinding either due to respec costs back then. Yup, took a toll...
@Patrick Bateman lool
Back in the day, I got both Exalted with Timbermaw Hold, getting the Trinket, and then the Frostsaber mount. I don't even want to think about how long it took me to do those.
Playing Horde this time around, so yeah going for that Timbermaw Hold trinket "Defender of the Timbermaw" once again. If I make an Alliance character (on a server with 75% Alliance) I would of course go after the Frostsaber Mount once again.
I spammed BRD arena to help my Warrior friend get the SGC. It was nice exp for us both, we would take turns tanking it as I'm a Feral Druid.
I had gotten the medicine pouch held in offhand on my level 19 twink hunter. Took forever just sitting next to people getting rep
I decided to start farming the Timbermaw because screw their trinket. They drop a decent amount of silver and runecloth.
Just do BRD if you want runecloth, lol.
I remember orc warrior with best gear holding storwind keep like for days! Sick back then he was unstoppable!
I know it isn’t classic but can we get a mention for the green proto drake in wotlk waiting 7 days for an egg to hatch into your 200th cobra hatchling
For me the Timbermaw rep wasn't that bad and back in Vanilla I only had 1 main and I didn't start until several months before BC came out but I managed to get my saber along with barely missing Grand Marshal. I had to get this mount because the epic sabers looked terribad but even worse I grinded three of them in Classic, Rogue, Drood and Warrior and at the end the village was so populated I just did the chance drop meat quest. I hated the fact that Blizz didn't at least change the look of the mount a little to distinguish who got it the right way and who got it after they nerfed the shit out of the grind.
I leveled an enhancement Shammy during TBC and got the ironfoe as a lucky drop.
Never got that kinda luck on my main though...
Did most of these achievements. Insane in the brain. Frostsabwr. The tunnel furlbogs. And exalted dark moon Faire and so much more. PerryCS... Misha.
I still dont know a single person that got the Winterspring mount. I mean Ive sure Ive seen one in 15 years, but Ive never actually known anyone personally that did it. That is an INSANE grind.
Once you get your alchemy alt at your main farming toon with some Naxx gear, everything in classic is EZ.
Naxx in 1 or 2 nights.
Maybe more if you're a grassroots guild.
Basically you have herb and engineering as your proffs for your 1 toon, then mining engineering for another.
Then a caster or healer clothy with talioring enchanting and hope theres enough to kill slime globs in AQ40.
Repeat this every week with the people you meet and wowzers. Soon, you can have multiple toons with T3 tokens in their bank.
2.5 is basically free if your guild maintains farming AQ 40.
Everyone still wants stuff from BWL. The best eay to run these classic Naxx farm guilds is to have parse requirments on individual toons to advance from BWL to AQ 40 and then to Naxx so your sure either play skill or gear is enough to preform in each raid.
i remember my baron mount grind being the worst. always thought you had to do it in 45mins baron run
“The winterspwing twainers... and yes that is their weal name.”
Could you mind control the Npc as horde? There's another one for I think darkiron (not a grind but similar need to mind control to talk to em) and get the quest, go do the quest, come back, mind control, turn in qiest, et cetera?
For more context on how hard rank 14 was to get, the highest I ever got was rank 10 and I mostly pvpd pn lvl 19 and 29 twinks. Only pve to get twink stuff, lots of hks and wins etc.
Warlord in PVP mounted on my Wintersaber - good old times :D