Save the saw dust and use clear glue for fill on screw holes ; harvest wood saw dust from under but plate if needed ; also if bubba drilled holes in the steel harvest metal from places outta site to weld them up then you can use any welding rods to rebuild outta site harvesting point this will match all of the repair areas on any classic rifle
I have tried that in other projects with little success. Maybe I am using the wrong glue or not enough wood dust. good information thou and many have had success with it. Thanks for watching.
Having repaired a lot of military stocks this is close to the worst job I've ever seen of matching the distress! A good job would of enhanced its "history" and not just been an "excuse" for bad shop work. Pinning with screws is though a very good method.
Thanks for watching. Please do some videos on stock repair I would love to see them. Always looking to learn new techniques.To the naked eye the repairs go unnoticed by the people I have shown the rifle to, however the camera picks up all the flaws.
Just bought a iver Johnson 12 gauge the whole butt stock is cracked all the way down and a new stock is $120+ don’t really wanna stick more money into the gun saying that i just got it any ideas what to do to fix stock ? The gun retails for $175 in good condition and is from 1919
Mum was ground off, It does however have the aircraft sights. Odd for a late war model. Here is a video I did on a little history on these. Thanks for watching.
Please use the method I placed earlier, you will have a stock with more strength and definitely a much better job when it comes to cleaning and staining. bond the Cracks or splinters with epoxy and fill with plastic wood made for the appropriate wood; beech filler or Light Oak best --hope this helps.
Cool you could salvage the stock. Looked like the ejector was failing to eject. I loved the guy at 14.55 who closed his eyes, and yanked the trigger. Why can't I get a group? ha ha.
I have an Arisaka 99 that is pretty nice. I had to splice the forend back together under the rear band. One of the screws on the bayonet lug was rounded out and seized so it couldn't be disassembled. So they removed the band and sawed the forend off. I had to drill and easy out the screw, then dowel and epoxy the stock. You can get a used one for about 150, but then I am that much deeper in the gun and my wife gives the stink eye. It has the mum, and original blue. I have not shot it yet, but recently got a box of ammo. I also have a Type 44 carbine in 6.5 I have not fired. Glad you got it up and running. have a good one.
My father has an old arisaka with a cracked stock. Hes been saying that he was going to just buy a new stock but I think I might just repair it myself. It's got a couple missing screws, it needs the strap mount on the back. Is there any tips on getting new screws?
I would have bonded the stock and then cross pinned it with dowels or pieces of old furniture wood so that i could contour and stain with a yellow /walnut dye. In case anyone interested the rear sights on type 99 had aim off "wings " thought to be for engaging Aircraft in flight or running targets, I am told by a re-loader that 30-06 brass can be used after resizing.
I'm happy to know the existence of people who cherish enemy rifles like you. I watched a video that American shoot Type 99 with M1 rifle and it made me very offensive.
i would say be offended, be very offended. instead i will say be made very offensive, be made very very offensive. Also, i'm sure you are aware you have anime as your icon, douche bag.
why not the way boatwrights do cedar-strip canoes by applying epoxy and a sheath of fiberglass fabric made transparent and ultra strong by epoxy infusion?
Have you ever had any issues with the stock working loose since you made the repair on it? I have a muzzleloader I need to do and want to try repairing it the way you did this one.
Just depends on where the brake is. If you can do a hidden repair That would be best. If I had to do this repair again I would not use the wood filler. I would use some sort of wood plug. Thanks for watching.
I made my stock from scratch but there is a company that can make one. When I got my Type 2 it was only the barrel, barrel bands, the junctions and the receiver.
I have a 1903a3 stock with a really similar break. Mine however doesn't seem like I can spread through the stock behind the tang. I'm hopping there isn't much oil or old glue in the crack. I wish I could show you a picture here. Also the 2 blocks of wood connecting each side are crack right where you added 2 screws to strengthen yours. It's too late for mine but hopefully some nice brass screws will pull those back together.
Sorry but the hardware store was out of mending plates and piano wire, so I had to improvise. Tried to watch your boy scout repair videos but they must be on private setting. Thanks for watching.
The WORST hack job??? That's a little harsh. But then, to just call it just an amateur repair might be overly generous. The Gorilla Glue isn't the worst choice but adding the screws IS... Surely to have heard that a glue joint is "stronger than the wood itself." This would certainly apply to Gorilla Glue. But after all, it's your rifle and you wouldn't be the first person to refinish an antique piece of furniture or sharpen a collectable knife. But if you ever show that rifle to someone who KNOWS guns, you might tell them those repairs were already there when you got the gun.
Yea, it is an amateur repair. As for the glue joint being stronger than the wood itself, I did not feel comfortable putting that sharp jagged spit in front of my face without a mechanical bond as a backup. Lets look at the collectors value. It was not shootable as it was, it is now a shooter grade rifle. No collector is going to pay a premium price for this gun with a cracked stock no matter how well the repair is done, hell I could even throw it into a good original stock and the value would not change much. The Mum is defaced to the point it is completely ground off, It is late war production, no mono pod attachment, no dust cover, short cleaning rod, it does have the aircraft sights. So instead of using it as a sporter candidate and chopping it up, What I did was make it a shooter again without just throwing it into any old authentic Arisaka stock. All while trying to keep this unusual one as original as possible. This gun is now something that can be taken to the range and enjoyed. Shooting history without the fear of devaluing a good example of this gun. Thanks for watching.
That Glue is the Shit you could probably glue a car to the top of a tree with it I use it all the time the only thing I really don't like is it expands as it drys and then you have to clean it up but other than that it's great shit.
That bubbling in overflow that Gorilla Glue does is the reason why it's not good for any type of major repair. And you should have washedThe Crack out with some acetone
The bubbling is why It is so strong. Internally it forces itself into the pores and grain of the wood creating a stronger deeper bond. All Glues will have some run out. I know Acraglas is the standard. Why is Acraglas the standard? Because it has been around the longest and been used successfully millions of times. Thanks for watching.
The heal is most likely part of the 2 piece stock. Remove the but plate and action. You can most likely slide it out of the dove tail, clean it up and glue it back together. Thanks for watching.
Gorilla Glue is an expanding glue, great for expanding repairs - not good for wood rifle repair. 2 ton epoxy and wood plug would have worked much better.
Epoxy's work great and are a traditional method of repair for gun stocks particularity in areas that are hard to clamp. Gorilla glue works best in areas that can be clamped down because with proper pressure applied to the wood the Glue has no other way to go but to expand into the pores of the wood and provide a very strong bond. You have to be careful with epoxy's and clamping because it is real easy to have all the epoxy run out when you clamp then you have no bond. Thanks for watching.
Nice. I doweled mine with bamboo skewers for the "oriental" effect. Between the glue and the dowels, held up fine. Dowels allowed me to sand it flush. I've done cracks with missing pieces with the sawdust and glue method. Works pretty good too. You can gradually build it up to the surface.
I was reading about the brass pins with threads and someone said you grind off what protrudes. Then I realized I can just get long brass screws and grind off the head and have just a tine bit of brass that will tarnish just fine. We don't need the head of the screw since the threads with glue are holding both sides together. I suppose there is no going back at that point. I think gorilla needs to moisten non porous surfaces but not sure if porous needs to be moistened.
Good call the use of brass screws and cutting the head off. Will look more like a traditional brass pin repair made back in the day. Thanks for watching.
Cool repair. Too many people think cracked = crap. Many good rifles sit in cracked stocks that could be repaired or replaced. Are you guys based in Iowa?
Thanks for watching. Nice to have this rifle shooting again, now to work up a load it likes and see how accurate it is. Yes I am based in central Iowa.
I spotted your Zombie Outbreak papers on the wall and thought I saw what looked like Iowa on them. I actually was searching for cracked wrist repair videos as I'm currently looking at a scrubbed Polish Mauser that has a cracked wrist but is otherwise in good condition. Thanks again!
Very fixable repair, and should be easy to keep it hidden. I touched on a wrist repair in the video but I currently don't have anything broken like that to film. Nice score on the rifle and good luck fixing it. I know when I fixed this one my plans changed a few times the further I got into the project. Make sure that you have removed all the oils out of the wood before you glue it or the glue won't hold. The old gunsmith has had rifles he has had to soak in Turpentine for 4 weeks and then let dry for 2 weeks just to get the oils out of the stock so the glue would hold.
OUCH. I'm sorry man but as from a gunsmiths point of view, that is a horrendous repair. Did you repair what looks like a large crack running down the stock to the butt? There are better ways to repair that and the glue you used is bad, it is an epoxy not a glue. That's why it had foamed out and its not very strong. It leaves small pockets of gas and air when drying .You should have used a glass bedding compound. Sooner or later that repair will fail and will end up hurting someone.. If one of my guys made a repair like that, he or she would be out the door. that is a liability. Scary to see things like this .
Checked your channel, what a waste of time! No videos WTF! I thought I would check out how you would do it. Their are a lot of way to skin a cat, was this the most traditional way, NO. I did however take a wall hanger and and return it back to a shooter without using mending plates, bailing wire or duct tape. I was not trying to hide the fact it it had been fixed and 95% of the people that have seen this rifle in person have no idea how it was fixed, Thanks for watching though and I look forward to your future videos.
shoulda mixed the saw dust with the glue to plug an hide screws
I’m going to try this on my
Old mossberg 385k. Thanks for the video.
The only thing I would have changed is to use wood plugs instead of wood putty when filling the holes. Thanks for watching.
Mix epoxy with wood shaving powder to make it look like wood. That's how you cover the screws. And the screws could have been smaller.
The one thing I would change on this fix is to not use wood filler but try pulgs or something mixed with sawdust. Thanks for watching.
Wood dial is your best shot as a gunsmith recommendation. Reason is wood will expand with glue.
poor repair
Where's your video then Mr. Fucking expert?
Nice job
Anvil Gunsmithing Mark Novak use Acraglass . An he is one hell of a gunsmith/ Gun Restorator.
Absolutely... acraglass. ... the thin type, there is nothing i have found that it won’t hold better than gorilla glue
Merci pour cette vidéo très instructive 👍🇫🇷
Save the saw dust and use clear glue for fill on screw holes ; harvest wood saw dust from under but plate if needed ; also if bubba drilled holes in the steel harvest metal from places outta site to weld them up then you can use any welding rods to rebuild outta site harvesting point this will match all of the repair areas on any classic rifle
I have tried that in other projects with little success. Maybe I am using the wrong glue or not enough wood dust. good information thou and many have had success with it. Thanks for watching.
David Methvin
Having repaired a lot of military stocks this is close to the worst job I've ever seen of matching the distress! A good job would of enhanced its "history" and not just been an "excuse" for bad shop work. Pinning with screws is though a very good method.
Thanks for watching. Please do some videos on stock repair I would love to see them. Always looking to learn new techniques.To the naked eye the repairs go unnoticed by the people I have shown the rifle to, however the camera picks up all the flaws.
there is a new "low expansion" gorilla glue that is much better fyi.
Seems like you are missing the extractor screw, another youtuber, Readiness reviews, had this problem with a arisaka
Just bought a iver Johnson 12 gauge the whole butt stock is cracked all the way down and a new stock is $120+ don’t really wanna stick more money into the gun saying that i just got it any ideas what to do to fix stock ? The gun retails for $175 in good condition and is from 1919
Use cabinet trim screws 3/16 head inverted Torx head
Great video. You might think of going through and editing out some of the repetitive and extraneous stuff.
Noted! I think my videos have come a long way since this one. Thanks for watching.
Does your rifle have the rear aircraft wings and a mum on the receiver?
Mum was ground off, It does however have the aircraft sights. Odd for a late war model. Here is a video I did on a little history on these. Thanks for watching.
brownells acra-glass and surgical tubing would be the best for this repair
And he could of pinned it from the inside
Screws......really, really........what not to do!
I like to use wood glue and wood dust from the stock i am working mix it and it match's perfect when its stained
Thanks for the video. I picked up a late war type 99 with a similar crack that I need to fix. I’ll give your method a try
Good luck with your repair. Only thing I would do different is not use the plastic wood filler. Thanks for watching.
Please use the method I placed earlier, you will have a stock with more strength and definitely a much better job when it comes to cleaning and staining. bond the Cracks or splinters with epoxy and fill with plastic wood made for the appropriate wood; beech filler or Light Oak best --hope this helps.
Cool you could salvage the stock. Looked like the ejector was failing to eject. I loved the guy at 14.55 who closed his eyes, and yanked the trigger. Why can't I get a group? ha ha.
The ejector is working, I reload for this rifle and did not want to lose any brass so I was slow cycling this rifle. Thanks for watching.
I have an Arisaka 99 that is pretty nice. I had to splice the forend back together under the rear band. One of the screws on the bayonet lug was rounded out and seized so it couldn't be disassembled. So they removed the band and sawed the forend off. I had to drill and easy out the screw, then dowel and epoxy the stock. You can get a used one for about 150, but then I am that much deeper in the gun and my wife gives the stink eye. It has the mum, and original blue. I have not shot it yet, but recently got a box of ammo. I also have a Type 44 carbine in 6.5 I have not fired. Glad you got it up and running. have a good one.
My father has an old arisaka with a cracked stock. Hes been saying that he was going to just buy a new stock but I think I might just repair it myself. It's got a couple missing screws, it needs the strap mount on the back. Is there any tips on getting new screws?
You may be able to find screws and pieces on Ebay or Gun broker. Good luck on your repair and thanks for watching.
Aaron Ives u could try numrich gun parts corp.
I would have bonded the stock and then cross pinned it with dowels or pieces of old furniture wood so that i could contour and stain with a yellow /walnut dye. In case anyone interested the rear sights on type 99 had aim off "wings " thought to be for engaging Aircraft in flight or running targets, I am told by a re-loader that 30-06 brass can be used after resizing.
I resize 8mm Mauser brass, no need to trim afterwards. Thanks for watching.
I'm happy to know the existence of people who cherish enemy rifles like you. I watched a video that American shoot Type 99 with M1 rifle and it made me very offensive.
I do like Military surplus rifles and the story's behind them. Thanks for watching.
Enemy rifles? HEY !! the war has been over for more the 75 yrs. Get a clue and a life
i would say be offended, be very offended. instead i will say be made very offensive, be made very very offensive. Also, i'm sure you are aware you have anime as your icon, douche bag.
Id have you fix up my carcano
why not the way boatwrights do cedar-strip canoes
by applying epoxy and a sheath of fiberglass fabric
made transparent and ultra strong by epoxy infusion?
Have you ever had any issues with the stock working loose since you made the repair on it? I have a muzzleloader I need to do and want to try repairing it the way you did this one.
Nice job 👏👏👏👏👏
I've actually been wondering what you do for a arisaka type 2 paratrooper as no one sells the stock for replacements
Just depends on where the brake is. If you can do a hidden repair That would be best. If I had to do this repair again I would not use the wood filler. I would use some sort of wood plug. Thanks for watching.
I made my stock from scratch but there is a company that can make one. When I got my Type 2 it was only the barrel, barrel bands, the junctions and the receiver.
I have a 1903a3 stock with a really similar break. Mine however doesn't seem like I can spread through the stock behind the tang. I'm hopping there isn't much oil or old glue in the crack. I wish I could show you a picture here. Also the 2 blocks of wood connecting each side are crack right where you added 2 screws to strengthen yours. It's too late for mine but hopefully some nice brass screws will pull those back together.
for 5 min you talked about gluing...then you glued and clamped without instruction.....if this was supposed to be a show us how vid...that was weak
I would have done it way differently but that’s the beauty of gunstock repair. Everyone has a different take on it
somebody butchered this stock before..
Could this have been a worse repair, a boy scout could have done better
Sorry but the hardware store was out of mending plates and piano wire, so I had to improvise. Tried to watch your boy scout repair videos but they must be on private setting. Thanks for watching.
The WORST hack job??? That's a little harsh. But then, to just call it just an amateur repair might be overly generous. The Gorilla Glue isn't the worst choice but adding the screws IS... Surely to have heard that a glue joint is "stronger than the wood itself." This would certainly apply to Gorilla Glue. But after all, it's your rifle and you wouldn't be the first person to refinish an antique piece of furniture or sharpen a collectable knife. But if you ever show that rifle to someone who KNOWS guns, you might tell them those repairs were already there when you got the gun.
Yea, it is an amateur repair. As for the glue joint being stronger than the wood itself, I did not feel comfortable putting that sharp jagged spit in front of my face without a mechanical bond as a backup. Lets look at the collectors value. It was not shootable as it was, it is now a shooter grade rifle. No collector is going to pay a premium price for this gun with a cracked stock no matter how well the repair is done, hell I could even throw it into a good original stock and the value would not change much. The Mum is defaced to the point it is completely ground off, It is late war production, no mono pod attachment, no dust cover, short cleaning rod, it does have the aircraft sights. So instead of using it as a sporter candidate and chopping it up, What I did was make it a shooter again without just throwing it into any old authentic Arisaka stock. All while trying to keep this unusual one as original as possible. This gun is now something that can be taken to the range and enjoyed. Shooting history without the fear of devaluing a good example of this gun. Thanks for watching.
That Glue is the Shit you could probably glue a car to the top of a tree with it I use it all the time the only thing I really don't like is it expands as it drys and then you have to clean it up but other than that it's great shit.
Thanks for watching. The expansion is the reason it works so well. Penetrates deep into the wood.
That bubbling in overflow that Gorilla Glue does is the reason why it's not good for any type of major repair. And you should have washedThe Crack out with some acetone
The bubbling is why It is so strong. Internally it forces itself into the pores and grain of the wood creating a stronger deeper bond. All Glues will have some run out. I know Acraglas is the standard. Why is Acraglas the standard? Because it has been around the longest and been used successfully millions of times. Thanks for watching.
Absolutely correct
AWESOME Job mine is heel split definitely considering this style of repair
The heal is most likely part of the 2 piece stock. Remove the but plate and action. You can most likely slide it out of the dove tail, clean it up and glue it back together. Thanks for watching.
Gorilla Glue is an expanding glue, great for expanding repairs - not good for wood rifle repair. 2 ton epoxy and wood plug would have worked much better.
Epoxy's work great and are a traditional method of repair for gun stocks particularity in areas that are hard to clamp. Gorilla glue works best in areas that can be clamped down because with proper pressure applied to the wood the Glue has no other way to go but to expand into the pores of the wood and provide a very strong bond. You have to be careful with epoxy's and clamping because it is real easy to have all the epoxy run out when you clamp then you have no bond. Thanks for watching.
Acra Glass from Brownells is the best option.
Nice. I doweled mine with bamboo skewers for the "oriental" effect. Between the glue and the dowels, held up fine. Dowels allowed me to sand it flush. I've done cracks with missing pieces with the sawdust and glue method. Works pretty good too. You can gradually build it up to the surface.
I like the bamboo idea. If I were to do this one again I would use the glue and sawdust or a wood dowel to cover the screws. Thanks for watching.
I was reading about the brass pins with threads and someone said you grind off what protrudes. Then I realized I can just get long brass screws and grind off the head and have just a tine bit of brass that will tarnish just fine. We don't need the head of the screw since the threads with glue are holding both sides together. I suppose there is no going back at that point. I think gorilla needs to moisten non porous surfaces but not sure if porous needs to be moistened.
Good call the use of brass screws and cutting the head off. Will look more like a traditional brass pin repair made back in the day. Thanks for watching.
Acraglass.. I promise, the runny type. It doesn’t disappoint
Hollow brass rod and acra glass are your friends
good job destroying a good stock with amatuer "repairs"
Lol destroying the stock that was already basically broken in half? What's it like eating corn the long ways.
Great repair job, adds character to the rifle!
Thanks for watching. would I do some things different if I had to do it again, yes, but I like the way it turned out.
Nice work, guy!👍🏻
Thanks for watching.
Hawaiian. Hehe
No expert technology. Take bone glue and wooden dowels.
my type 38 has the same crack
Don’t fix it that is not broken it is a two part stock
Cool gun, now I want one.
Cool repair. Too many people think cracked = crap. Many good rifles sit in cracked stocks that could be repaired or replaced. Are you guys based in Iowa?
Thanks for watching. Nice to have this rifle shooting again, now to work up a load it likes and see how accurate it is. Yes I am based in central Iowa.
I spotted your Zombie Outbreak papers on the wall and thought I saw what looked like Iowa on them. I actually was searching for cracked wrist repair videos as I'm currently looking at a scrubbed Polish Mauser that has a cracked wrist but is otherwise in good condition. Thanks again!
Very fixable repair, and should be easy to keep it hidden. I touched on a wrist repair in the video but I currently don't have anything broken like that to film. Nice score on the rifle and good luck fixing it. I know when I fixed this one my plans changed a few times the further I got into the project. Make sure that you have removed all the oils out of the wood before you glue it or the glue won't hold. The old gunsmith has had rifles he has had to soak in Turpentine for 4 weeks and then let dry for 2 weeks just to get the oils out of the stock so the glue would hold.
OUCH. I'm sorry man but as from a gunsmiths point of view, that is a horrendous repair. Did you repair what looks like a large crack running down the stock to the butt? There are better ways to repair that and the glue you used is bad, it is an epoxy not a glue. That's why it had foamed out and its not very strong. It leaves small pockets of gas and air when drying .You should have used a glass bedding compound. Sooner or later that repair will fail and will end up hurting someone.. If one of my guys made a repair like that, he or she would be out the door. that is a liability. Scary to see things like this .
It’s a nice repair, and made the rifle functional again. Well done.
It is a good shooter now. Thanks for watching.
I watched up to the point where the screws were used to rape the poor stock. Then I could not watch any more
It's the worst repair of a butt that l see
Horrible repair work. As for shooting it.....why do you have a rifle you seem so afraid of ?
You waste an individuals time watching, when do a repair so poorly. I would remove it from UA-cam in embarrassment!
Checked your channel, what a waste of time! No videos WTF! I thought I would check out how you would do it. Their are a lot of way to skin a cat, was this the most traditional way, NO. I did however take a wall hanger and and return it back to a shooter without using mending plates, bailing wire or duct tape. I was not trying to hide the fact it it had been fixed and 95% of the people that have seen this rifle in person have no idea how it was fixed, Thanks for watching though and I look forward to your future videos.
YOU ARE AMAZING
Thank you, and Thank you for watching.
You know that Hitoshi made that comment on "Opposite Day," don't you?