Elliott Smith - Christian Brothers (from Elliott Smith)

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  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult Рік тому +35

    Every single song is magic

  • @roiybenkel682
    @roiybenkel682 6 років тому +55

    No bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around
    Christian brothers gonna take him down
    But it can't help me get over
    Don't be cross it's sick what I want
    I've seen the boss blink on and off
    Fake concerns is what's the matter, man
    And you think I ought to shake your mother fucking hand
    Well I know how much you care
    Don't be cross it's sick what I want
    I've seen the boss blink on and off
    Come here by me I want you here
    Nightmares become me it's so fucking clear
    Nightmares become me it's so fucking clear

    • @assfukwut
      @assfukwut 2 роки тому +1

      Roy the the homie always coming through with the words 🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 2 роки тому

      Someone had a intervention.

  • @laurenmagor
    @laurenmagor 10 років тому +75

    Really love this version. also the Heatmiser version.
    damn Elliott..I miss you.

    • @Glastoki
      @Glastoki 6 місяців тому

      It's been like 20+ years or something

    • @juljasmah
      @juljasmah 6 місяців тому

      @@Glastoki to be fair it was only 12 years when the comment was made

    • @okaywhatevernevermind
      @okaywhatevernevermind 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Glastokiso what. elliott’s missed ❤

    • @GaryStephens-kh9jo
      @GaryStephens-kh9jo 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Glastoki So time is supposed to magically wash away the thoughts, feelings, and memories of someone or something that had/has a huge impact on your life? What do you think Nostalgia is all about? Or memories for that matter? Or how about the fact when you truly love something you carry it around in your heart for the rest of your years. Remember this. Time doesn’t make you forget. It’s only because the situations have changed. You have new feelings, new thoughts, new experiences, all stemming from the new you and the new life you’ve made for yourself. That being said… Every now and then, when I find myself alone and in a certain mood or way, I’m revisited by the beautiful and sometimes terrifying ghosts of my past, as we all are. It’s just the way life and our brain happens to unfold at times. It’s mysterious, yet when you think about why those recurring thoughts or memories keep revisiting you, you tend to get your answer. Everything has a reason.

  • @christiangasior4244
    @christiangasior4244 7 років тому +160

    This music can make you feel like you aren't alone when you're going through extreme depression and the drug use and suicidal thoughts that come with it, but on the other hand, you have to treat it with respect. Many of his songs come from a place where you may well not make it back, like he didn't. I would say avoid it if you're seriously depressed and/or suicidal, but if you can relate but aren't in such a dark place, listen to an album once a few months or a song a day at most. This shit's real and it's powerful. I didn't realize this sort of thing was causing me to wallow in my depression until i started forcing myself to think happy thoughts and surround myself with happy stuff. Elliott was a genius who perfectly captured how he and millions of people felt. I wish he would've make it through but considering the manner of suicide, which was TWO knife punctures to the chest, then he must have been in some unfathomable inner hell. Rest in Peace, angel.

    • @jarrettthomas4865
      @jarrettthomas4865 5 років тому +2

      Christian Gasior well said man

    • @chayseblack4162
      @chayseblack4162 4 роки тому +13

      It really is a way of wallowing in a sea of sorrow. But I gotta say the only times I've ever been dead I was was listening to more happy and upbeat music than Elliott and his haunting vulnerability. I gotta say it gives me a kinda solace in the sense that alternate between heavy apathetic lows and almost elated and out of my head highs. So it kinda fuels the musician spirit I sometimes feel like I've lost

    • @TastyLightBulbs
      @TastyLightBulbs 3 роки тому +15

      I still maintain that his girlfriend killed him but 100 percent agree with you. That headspace he had is such an ugly yet beautiful thing

    • @ismaelgarrido1719
      @ismaelgarrido1719 3 роки тому +2

      So true. This music sets you in a depresive mood. It’s dangerous how u can relate to it in some moments of life. Take care. Ask for help. Do psychotherapy and if u need psychopharmaceuticals give it a try. They have been very helpful to me. Xoxo, Keep swimming ❤️‍🩹🌹

    • @ethanseidl6101
      @ethanseidl6101 2 роки тому +1

      I needed to read exactly this, thank you, seriously.

  • @cardholder_john
    @cardholder_john 6 років тому +44

    This album, either/or, and basement on a hill always made me feel a little less alone and felt better about being "sick", as it were.

    • @GaryStephens-kh9jo
      @GaryStephens-kh9jo 5 місяців тому

      Same here, except with every album and song Elliott Smith ever conceived

  • @JesusChrist-ee2eu
    @JesusChrist-ee2eu 8 років тому +34

    not a song to kick to. but an inspiration. I think of my sister. best friend I've ever had.

  • @charlesharrison1115
    @charlesharrison1115 7 років тому +85

    i got into elliott smith from mainstream good will hunting - but this opened up the most epic world of his music. good on you those fans who have been supporters since before time - you are lucky.

    • @LowEndPCGamer100
      @LowEndPCGamer100 3 роки тому +6

      I sing his ballads to my daughter every night

    • @edhelvey
      @edhelvey 8 місяців тому +2

      I got into him in 1995 when I moved to Portland. When I went to Music Millennium, I took both "Roman Candle" and his second album to the counter and asked the clerk which one I should buy. She said, "Both!". So, I did.

  • @Syntox
    @Syntox 8 років тому +32

    Took me a very long time to appreciate this man.

    • @sro2457
      @sro2457 7 років тому +3

      Oh yeah. It had been like 6 years until I really got into his music.

  • @dannybursace9151
    @dannybursace9151 5 років тому +10

    Love this song & Christian Brothers is my favorite brandy...that is all, thank you

  • @pandap4ntz
    @pandap4ntz 5 років тому +15

    Elliott is so underrated.

  • @jakekehl7183
    @jakekehl7183 8 років тому +66

    i used to drink straight from the bottle till i was i was out on a nightly basis to this album. R.I.P. Elliott

  • @charlesharrison1115
    @charlesharrison1115 7 років тому +5

    utterly beautiful song. period

  • @mariannastoker1125
    @mariannastoker1125 10 років тому +4

    amazing song

  • @Alextrovert
    @Alextrovert Рік тому +1

    The riff starting at 0:28 sounds like Suspicious Minds, but in a minor key

  • @pepe7drum
    @pepe7drum 6 років тому +8

    Is not easy at all to take an acoustic guitar and write such a badass song, Elliot was a natural... too bad he died too soon

  • @naiyalexic
    @naiyalexic 8 років тому +31

    I want you here...

  • @rexbanner7611
    @rexbanner7611 4 роки тому +2

    This is his best album, alphabet town is my favorite song of his.

  • @jayorazi9784
    @jayorazi9784 6 років тому +2

    Love u Elliott. Miss u

  • @rkf87
    @rkf87 6 років тому +2

    this is the first time I've heard this version. I play the Heatmiser version all the time and i gotta say I like the dynamics of that one better. this is pretty interesting though as you can see what his original idea for it was before he brought it to his band. too bad that one became an outtake!

  • @alanross7916
    @alanross7916 8 років тому

    so beautiful

  • @jasoncracknell4086
    @jasoncracknell4086 Рік тому

    I always sing this quite lol❤

  • @melblank760
    @melblank760 8 років тому +17

    absolute utter fucking genius...I hate you died

    • @danielchristopher4155
      @danielchristopher4155 8 років тому +1

      I totally aggree! Such an inspiration to real musicians.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 2 роки тому

      @@danielchristopher4155 yup. A musicians musician

    • @TheMonolake
      @TheMonolake Рік тому +1

      Somewhere in the future there is a spaceship travelling between the planets named
      The Elliot Smith

  • @lascauxpainter364
    @lascauxpainter364 8 років тому +22

    For such a deeply depressing and prophetic song, especially considering his early death, the level of discussion seems fairly base and without substance. I'd like to see more people interpret the song's meaning. It's definitely related to escaping reality through a drunken binge on Christian Brothers, but there is more to it.

    • @FeidlimidAthol
      @FeidlimidAthol 8 років тому +7

      Brian Applequist every time I put it on it reminds me of all the shit people I've met in life and the ones I thought were good for me. and how now I just wake up in a nightmare when thinking about all that have come and gone

    • @justiceblunt1444
      @justiceblunt1444 7 років тому +6

      Brian Applequist it's about his bad nightmares apparently. Ive had periods of relentless insomnia and pretty bad nightmares so that's the meaning i stick with.

    • @Ethan-fh9lq
      @Ethan-fh9lq 5 років тому +23

      Besides the popular brandy, the Congregation of Christian Brothers is a Catholic organization that was mired in sexual abuse scandals in the late 80s and early 90s. I’m fairly certain he’s playing off of the double association that the title carries. Elliott often played with double meanings like this and another example occurs in this song with the lyric "don't be cross."
      In Christian Brothers, the narrator in the verses seems to have a troubled, oppositional attitude and a distrust of authority, while the chorus is made up of a recurring sequence of imperatives (orders/commands) followed by past tense descriptive statements (i.e. the 1st line is a command and then the 2nd is a past t. statement, 3rd line is a command, 4th is a statement). For example, the admonishment, “Don’t be cross, come here by me,” is followed by the past tense description, "I've seen the boss blink on and off," etc.
      The strange, seemingly fragmented lines of the chorus seem to clash with the consistent, steady-in-tone voice of the verses. The verses' narrator is angry, defiant, apparently prepared for conflict. In other words, he is cross. In the 1st verse he prepares to take his opponent down; in the 2nd verse he scoffs at the idea of a handshake. He/she is taking action and the feeling is immediate and present. The direct, connected, comprehensible and immediate verses clash with the hypnotic imperatives and past tense hallucinations of the chorus, almost as if they are in dialogue, like a call-and-response.
      In the chorus' first line, the narrator is admonished "don't be cross" and commanded to "come here by me, while the 2nd line relates to the verses' subject of authority/authority figures. It is the second occurrence of the word "boss," drawing a connection between the seemingly juxtaposed verses and the chorus. As a matter of fact, every line of the chorus relates back to the song's first line in some way or another. "Come here by me, I want you here," then , "nightmare's become me, it's so fucking clear." The 1st and 3rd lines of the chorus relate to the verse's 1st line in that someone is being told what to do, ie bossed around. The 4th chorus line is connected of course by "bad dream fucker" and "nightmare... fucking clear."
      To me the chorus' 2nd line conjures an image of a street light or sign blinking on and off, an image of an object which dictates ones behavior (ie, stop on red, drive on green). It’s also strict and binary. It also, with the Christian Brothers abuse scandals in mind, makes me think of the way a child abuser behaves towards their victim and the world. Appearing one way when the lights are on, so to speak, and another when the lights are off (ie appearing to be what they are supposed to be when others are looking, then using their power to abuse their victim(s) out of sight).
      “Don’t be cross I want you here by me,” and, “come here by me I want you here,” again to me suggest, in this context, an abuser admonishing his victim. To me this chorus always felt hallucinated and dream-like. The lyrics seemed obtuse and confused. One might interpret the strange nature of the chorus as reflecting the narrator’s confused, chaotic feelings towards his/her abuse. Also note how the chorus is incomplete the first time, then expands further before repeating again, almost as though someone were remembering something, first in part, then with more of the buried memory returning to light, more of the picture becoming clear (the final line, "it's so fucking clear," is epiphianic, it has the tone of a realization). Dreams are explicitly referenced in the first line of the song and the repeated last line of the song: “no bad dream fucker’s gonna boss me around,” and, “nightmare’s become me it’s so fucking clear.” This last line is visceral as hell and hearing it for the first time had me floored.
      I don’t really know much about the kinds of effects that childhood abuse can have on a victim’s later life, but resentment and distrust of authority, as well as alcoholism and self-destruction seem to characterize the narrator of Christian Brothers. “Christian Brothers gonna take him down” also has always struck me as sounding naive or childish, suggesting arrested development (often associated with addiction) and also the (subconscious or conscious) addiction logic of “drinking/drugs/or whatever else will solve this problem.” “Bad dream fucker” again suggests that this is something repressed in the narrator’s psyche.
      In a sense the song seems to switch between the daytime/conscious/actions verses (drinking, defiance, fake concern) and the nighttime/unconscious/yin which is related to the verses, as if in conversation, or is their underlying cause. The song seems to suggest that the victim internalizes abuser. At first he/she seeks to rid himself of the "bad dream fucker" but by the end realizes "nightmares become me."
      The kind of binaries I've explored abound in Elliott Smith’s music and lyrics (and in life and language generally i guess). One obvious example would be the titles of his albums: Either/Or, XO, From a Basement on a Hill. Some have even gone as far as to note the contrast between the debut Roman Candle and the following unnamed album (often just treated as self-titled).
      Sorry if this is disorganized or whatever I wrote it on my phone. Its already long as hell but I’m going to end with a quote from ES talking about his songs:
      “With a very simple change of device, I’m two opposite things to people,” he says. “I mean, you can’t even understand your neighbor much less someone you saw on a television program. And I’m not necessarily talking about myself, but people form such strong and narrow opinions of people, and they’re going on such little information. The thing that’s fun for me is to make parallels between things. That’s more interesting to me, at the moment anyway, than writing really straight songs about a particular person or event. Metaphors work a lot better when you don’t draw attention to the fact that they’re metaphors. Talking about drugs-and why people do drugs and how they feel about it-just leads you to the same things as talking about relationships and people in love.”

    • @Ethan-fh9lq
      @Ethan-fh9lq 5 років тому +7

      Also, this is not the only Elliott Smith song which explicitly refers to abuse in the the Catholic Church. In the third verse of "Abused" he sings:
      “Sunday Morning in the aisle with my brother
      watching the men in Black tell the youths
      how you’re supposed to behave and tell the truth
      you don’t know what you’re saying, we’ve been abused.”
      "Abused" also seems to use a similar technique as the chorus of Christian Brothers to express the confused, mixed up, torturous feelings that the narrator has related to his/her abuse. In the final verse, the lyrics become more fragmented, disjointed and obtuse (at least that's how it strikes me, especially compared to the prior verses, which are direct and well connected):
      "Other people see some evil intention
      but the closer you look
      the more you get confused how
      why does everyone know?
      been abused now
      didn't want it to show."

    • @Ethan-fh9lq
      @Ethan-fh9lq 5 років тому +9

      One last note: i think Smith often uses shifts in pronouns to destabilize a sense of identity in his songs, to put it one way. One great example is Needle in the Hay, which begins with "you" and "he" ("your hand on his arm," etc.) but in the final verse switches to an immediate 1st person ("i can't be myself and i don't want to talk"). Or Alameda: ("you walk down Alameda, brushing off the nightmares you wish/ could plague me while I'm awake... you're all pretention/ i never pay attention"). Junk Bond Trader is another example. A recurring explicit theme in his songs is the idea of fluid and conflicting selves within one person: "people you've been before/ who you don't want around any more." Many of his songs seem to explore inner conflict. Also sleep, dreams and waking are really heavy motifs, such as in this song, Last Call, No Confidence Man, Alameda, Clementine, Division Day, Independence Day, The Ballad of Big Nothing, Son of Sam, Little One, etc.

  • @jas00_00
    @jas00_00 4 роки тому +4

    Absolute fucking genius.

  • @AlfharMcgreager-zo1en
    @AlfharMcgreager-zo1en 6 місяців тому +2

    No bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around
    Christian brothers gonna take him down
    But it can't help me get over
    Don't be cross, this sick I want
    I've seen the boss blink on and off
    Fake concerns is what's the matter, man
    And you think I ought to shake your motherfucking hand
    Well I know how much you care
    Don't be cross, this sick I want
    I've seen the boss blink on and off
    Come here by me I want you here
    Nightmares become me it's so fucking clear
    Nightmares become me it's so fucking clear

  • @tylerfryatt9447
    @tylerfryatt9447 2 роки тому +5

    his music is itself a drug

    • @yaagos
      @yaagos 9 місяців тому

      and I wanna OVERDOSE!

  • @MrCaatman
    @MrCaatman 6 років тому +4

    Makes my hair stand on - Meow Elliott, meow!

  • @eliotcaro
    @eliotcaro 7 місяців тому

    oh god i can not forget the first time i heard this song

  • @taxomichaels7545
    @taxomichaels7545 8 років тому +2

    I fucking love this songgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jacklegg21
    @jacklegg21 4 роки тому +62

    QOTSA did a pretty good cover of this song.

    • @za2206
      @za2206 Рік тому +5

      That'd be real dumb.

    • @AFormerClarity1
      @AFormerClarity1 Рік тому +16

      ​​@@za2206t's not dumb. They did a pretty good cover and it was to honor Elliott Smith cuz they respect him as musician.

    • @III_SLEEP_III-Daevicus
      @III_SLEEP_III-Daevicus Рік тому +8

      Appeared as a bonus track on the extended version of Era Vulgaris. It is pretty good.
      They played it live a few times too.

    • @knuckle12356
      @knuckle12356 Рік тому +1

      I wonder if influential artists are ever disappointed in precisely _who_ it was what claims inspiration or fandom from them..?

    • @ba_charles
      @ba_charles Рік тому

      shit sucks

  • @alfiejwall9625
    @alfiejwall9625 8 років тому +7

    the good die young

  • @izaakdaviddiggs
    @izaakdaviddiggs 3 місяці тому

    It's funny to see Elliott's evolution as a drummer. On this album, he's keeping good time and I like the parts he plays, but on that snare fill near the end he barely pulls it off. You get to Figure 8 and he's comfortable on a full kit, more an incredibly musician than a full time drummer (like McCartney), but I love Elliott's drumming, how he knows how to serve a song...

  • @starbirdcup
    @starbirdcup 3 роки тому +4

    NO BAD DREAM FUCKER’S GONNA BOSS ME AROUND

  • @melblank760
    @melblank760 8 років тому +6

    Christian Brothers is a cheap brandy just like X.O., think he was definitely enjoying these brands

    • @crazylikeatiger8896
      @crazylikeatiger8896 8 років тому

      +Mel Blank what. I like r and r. rich and rare its about 8 bucks a fifth. its gooood

    • @Ethan-fh9lq
      @Ethan-fh9lq 5 років тому +6

      Don't forget St. Ides Heaven and Kiwi Maddog 20/20

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому

      I'm sorry but r and r is no better than black velvet. the true cheap whiskey, or brandy, or gin, or _____, that's worth drinking, is what's on sale for a Managers Special discount at the counter by the till.
      That is all.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 2 роки тому +1

      “I’ll fake it through the day with some help for Johnny Walker Red.” He may of liked alcohol. May of.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 2 роки тому

      @@stella-vu8vh Your point?

  • @TheMonolake
    @TheMonolake Рік тому +2

    The guitar WHO could come up with this ?

  • @stella-vu8vh
    @stella-vu8vh 11 місяців тому +1

    Nothing hits as hard as this backed with coast to coast while on the way to dose at the methadone clinic after spending a rough usual 48 hours sick as a dog due to selling a friend just starting out at a clinic one of your carries that will most certainly keep that man fucked up for a fortnight. Nobody who should be on a dose as high as mine should do this shit especially if the dope you get in trade comes a day or two early. 310mg is brutal to come down from

  • @aftrthehangovr8347
    @aftrthehangovr8347 3 роки тому +4

    Who killed Elliott Smith!!!

  • @Teh-Penguin
    @Teh-Penguin Рік тому +1

    My whole life I thought it was an original QOTSA song D:

    • @MatthewMcRowan
      @MatthewMcRowan Рік тому +2

      thanks didnt know there was a cover of this song

  • @Glastoki
    @Glastoki 6 місяців тому

    I haven't heard this in months and it seems like he's playing it way too fast I guess I just sing it more slowly when I wake up every day.

    • @Nopenonameok
      @Nopenonameok 4 місяці тому

      It’s so disappointing that I have to see you on here too. 🤢
      He plays this song better than you ever could.

  • @jennieriley422
    @jennieriley422 3 місяці тому

    Haha still the boss

  • @alexandercrawford6785
    @alexandercrawford6785 Рік тому +1

    I went to an Ivy League college

  • @martinspud8325
    @martinspud8325 6 років тому

    Great fuckin song

  • @grwl1x
    @grwl1x 9 років тому +40

    That moment when you start liking music from a dead musician ;_;

    • @_KingOfCalifornia
      @_KingOfCalifornia 9 років тому +10

      tf? I listen to dead ppl music all the time.

    • @grwl1x
      @grwl1x 9 років тому +1

      +Alexander Ramone well,this is my first lol

    • @yagiveit
      @yagiveit 9 років тому +5

      +Layla Bear I know what you mean. I had heard of him, but I never really got into him until recently. It's like opening an amazing bottle of wine that has been saved for 20 years.

    • @_KingOfCalifornia
      @_KingOfCalifornia 9 років тому

      +Layla Bear lol

    • @Bnswiss
      @Bnswiss 9 років тому

      +Layla Bear i only listen to dead people

  • @JesusChrist-ee2eu
    @JesusChrist-ee2eu 8 років тому +4

    I drank brandy

  • @shawncurrin7051
    @shawncurrin7051 2 роки тому +1

    The boss is in the head.

  • @lucassmith4524
    @lucassmith4524 9 років тому +1

    Christian Brothers...Tgey have a decent high school football team. I know that got fuckall to do with this....

    • @LavarockfilmsNet
      @LavarockfilmsNet 9 років тому +2

      +Lucas Smith ...but Christian Bros. have a better brandy.

  • @martinspud8325
    @martinspud8325 6 років тому +2

    lol I like what I have done with my last 48 hours

  • @leaveslessfreq
    @leaveslessfreq 2 місяці тому

    JACK TO FIRE B.CVDSB

  • @leaveslessfreq
    @leaveslessfreq 2 місяці тому

    IDC IT'S A FLEYNGE WORD. SILENCE IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD #SEEKIINGOUTTAHUS #AYCESOFMURDER

  • @longbeachdirtbag
    @longbeachdirtbag 8 років тому

    Holy fuck I heard josh homme play this song had no idea it was Elliott Smith.

  • @TheMonolake
    @TheMonolake 2 роки тому

    You got to get off the main road
    Or Else. All your gonna see is....

  • @4thekingdom100
    @4thekingdom100 6 років тому +2

    yesss came for the 666 likes