Yeah having lots of fun that's fine......but at 18.00 he says icing was the last thing on his mind.....Being that unaware,,,, It will someday, be the last thing on his mind.....ever.
I can't believe so many people giving thumbs up on this retarded comment. They obviously didn't record this in January. Look at their clothings, they were wearing t-shirts and shorts.
My ex-gf's father passed away as the result of a plane crash caused by ice on the wings. He was flying with Tony Bettenhausen (Bettenhausen Racing) over Tennessee in a twin engine Cessna. Tony had just been multi-engine qualified and apparently didn't have the autovibrate for the ice. Needless to say they went into a flat spin. Four perished. Pay attention to ice!
Seriously. He is always so distracted in the cockpit, and seems more focused on trying to make videos than fly the plane. Would never get in a plane with him. And complaining about how Europe actually follows procedures & rules over the unregulated airspace in the US... if you hate flying in Europe, head back over to the US -- nobody there will miss your arrogant American attitude.
I love coming back to this video, all the dudes flying as the night slowly looms in and the atmosphere gets close, then dealing with the ice, I dunno just something great about it. Top vid Matt
Matt, I generally love your videos but please please please take the time to review the local ATC when you next fly in Europe as it varies vastly depending on which country you are in and helps to avoid a frosty reception. Regarding the high landing fees at Shoreham, not all UK GA airfields cost as much - some just ask for a donation or cost £5, others mirror Shoreham. Hopefully you will fly around the UK again as most airfields are pretty friendly. The Skyway Code produced by the CAA in the UK will give you a quick overview of R/T in the UK without having to read through the 400 or so pages of CAP413!
@@Malc478 if this is to complicated for you, you shouldnt be flying a plane, simple as that. These are simple laws and rules that thousands of pilots cope with every year. And every rule and law is there for a reason, usually at the cost of human life, it makes it safer, there is a reason there is controlled airspace, but i guess your to stupid to understand that, JUST TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS MORE, REALLY SHOWS YOUR INTELLIGENCE, a typical american i'm guessing.....
I have to say, that dik thing did make me chuckle. Us lads are so silly sometimes. You missed the opportunity for Kok as well. Dik and kok in one day too much for anyone.
'Making it up as you go' is NOT how professional pilots do it. You need to take the International Procedures Initial course from FlightSafety, and you are legally required to review the AIP for each country you operate through. There's no excuse for just bumbling around.
Len Laughridge yeah the guy is an a hole complains about the plane, complains about other countries' rules, I wouldn't be able to stand him in a plane next to me.
I agree with you. I did my VFR in the US and my IFR in Europe. I understand that in the US everything about aviation is taken less serious. Telecomms are sloppy, procedures are guidelines. So that's where this guy gets his attitude from. Once you start flying in a really crowded airspace like Europe, you start realizing that preparation is half the work involved in flying. So I did watch this feeling cringy most of the time. Not a video I would recommend to anybody.
I like this comment. I fly professionally as well, when I have friends or family ask me to fly them for fun on a weekend, I won't go until I check and review everything.
Yes, in Europe we have more restrictions, than in the USA. I own the German PPL and the FAA-Licence and I know very well the difference. I love to fly in America! Many happy landings to all of you!
A lot of interesting stuff in this video. It is a legal requirement (not to mention polite and in the best interest of safety) to report icing encounters ... FYI
they clearly dont give a fuck just like they dont care that they are flying and doing 50 other things besides flying. idiots like this are why planes have accidents. report this video and the rest of his videos to the FAA
So...these guys didn’t film their every radio call. And they have indeed reported pireps. Perhaps we can hold judgment unless we were actually with them on the flight. Thanks.
I love how when some (definately not all) americans try to pronounce german words and fail, they make a big deal about it and shitting on the language instead of just accepting that they just suck pronouncing it :) props to the people that actually try to accept and respect different cultures
I have flown a lot in the UK, and in particular actually learned to fly in a Tiger Moth at Shoreham, so am very familiar with the Seaford/Lydde routings. We had to land at Lydde and then fly over the channel on the Light aircraft corridor,and I agree with you that the GA systems in the US are one heck of a lot more user friendly than the UK, where light aircraft are most illegal in pretty well all controlled airspace., and by the way the infringement penalties ARE SEVERE! I really enjoyed this video, and applaud you for finding the time to make and edit it, well done.
Hey Matt, great video! I'm a French private pilot and subscriber based in Chicago, your first comment about French ATC made me cringe. Then 2 min later I must admit that the French controller on the radio was the most confusing :D He even seemed to get mad at you guys because you didn't get his accent ;) Anyway, great vid, but after spending 5 years in the US, I'd advise you to adopt slightly more open mindedness towards other cultures, you can only benefit from it :)
I agree, as a Private Pilot in the US, we can only learn from different cultures. And props for not making your comment toxic like 90% of the other commenters from Europe!
@@holdenm1400 I mean, they have a pretty good reason to react negatively. All Matt did was complain about how awful it is over there. Arrogant American syndrome -- and people wonder why Americans are so reviled around the world.
Plenty of small GA airports with reasonable landing fees here in the UK. Shoreham is one of the largest, and situated in a very wealthy part of the UK. Agreed the way UK controlled airspace is set up is a bit crazy
Another nice video Matt. I've enjoyed your flying adventures! Hopefully one day I'll get brave and cross the Atlantic in my 310! Watching these videos helps give me an expectation of how ATC works outside of the US.
Matt, I could not agree with you more about flying in the UK. I’m a recently retired 777 captain. I flew that thing to Australia, Asia, South America, and Europe. London Control was the biggest pain a__ I ever dealt with.
Although the Bonanza probably is better at most things, the 210 is better at: 1. Loading/unloading - 2 doors vs 1 door. Pilot and passengers step up into cabin (in the 210) vs down into cabin through wing walk (in the Bonanza). Much easier for loading and unloading. 2. Visibility - High wing vs low wing, although this is personal preference. High wing is much better for sight seeing. 3. Airplane camping. You can set up your tent under the wing, if you're into that sort of thing.
Hi Matt just love your VLOG! As a frustrated pilot living in Plymouth UK, I am following your epic trip from the US to Europe. Love your coverage such as different camera angles, narration, GREAT music, drone footage & experiences (Haggis/Castles!!) Tell me, are you all from the USA as your friend in the back seat has an English accent? (I can't find his name anywhere). Glad you enjoyed Scotland & now look forward to watching your trip to Austria. I've been there many times & could I suggest a flight over the Salzkammergut (the Austrian Lake District). It is absolutely stunning. East of Salzburg, Wolfgangsee with the Lion shaped mountain & then south to Hallstadt, a town literally perched at the edge of a lake at the foot of a mountain! Keep them coming guys as I just love it all! Will you be covering your return?
People give these kids a break, they are doing way more interesting things than most of us have done in our intire life. You are always going to be new at something!!
Personally, I really enjoy Matt’s sense of humour. Like the ongoing Bonanza vs Cessna jabs. It's a shtick, and it’s great. Just like the whole UK ATC thing. Matt and JP would look at each other and smile each time Matt would launch into it, because they knew it would evoke reaction. And that it did. Sure enough, reaction poured in from the grumpy old pilot peanut gallery - as it always does. I sure hope when I’m a grumpy old pilot I will find enjoyment in videos like these - instead of hurtling criticism and insults at them.
These guys have more aviation knowledge under their belts than I have at twice their age. I struggle to understand even American ATC at times, much less with accents and unfamiliar phraseology inherent with other ATC systems. Crossing the pond in a single engine piston is not something I would ever consider, either. After building an airplane and pulling engines apart and knowing how just one small part can crater an engine...well..such a trip is just beyond my comfort level. These videos are so well done, I get the thrill without the risk.
@@briand4000 Engine failures are pretty rare. I have flown single-engine airplanes for more than 2,000 hours without a single engine failure. Driving to the airport is usually more dangerous than flying halfway across the US is a single engine 206 Cessna. Once you get up to altitude in a single engine airplane, about the only thing or person that you have to worry about is yourself. Do everything right and the trip will always turn out OK.
When we travelled around the USA in the early 70's we met a lovely retired couple in the Smokey Mountains , who noticing our Canadian number plates commented that it was a shame we didn't have mountains in Canada !! And that was nearly 50 years ago .
Not sure about that , this was the early 70's ,Americans did not get dry humour and this couple was in their eighties I would guess and had retired from running an antique business . I just think they had never travelled north of their border and had no reason to be interested in anything out of the USA and in some way I can understand that as they grew up in a nation that had everything , no need to know .
What makes you think I live in Canada , never lived in Ontario although been there . Lovely country though, as is the USA . Shame about the politicians though .
Karlrsruhe; I love that city: I spent three years in high school there between 1962-1965! I suppose it has changed a lot since then, but it's still a great city!
What's funny about it? Are you implying an insult to everyone whose name happens to be Richard - often shortened to Dick, as in Dick van Dyke, Dick Strawbridge, Dick Emery and others? Seriously, it means nothing in Europe, and not even schoolchildren think that it's funny. You'll be saying that the Irish politician, Willy Stroker, has a funny name next, or that the late Korean statesman, Lee Bum Sook should have changed his name! ;-)
@@RWBHere It seems like some people, even if they can call themselves mature by age and actually fly planes spiritually do not manage to evolve beyond Beavis and Butthead mentality. Sadly enough, this actually can also be diagnosed with certain corporate leaders and politicians these days.
Matt, I'm not sure if anyone has ever told you but you have a very calming effect about you. Normally I would feel very anxious and on the edge of panic in that small Cessna over the ocean but I think you would make it bearable. Great content!
Great vlog guys, brings back memories of my flying around...Its all good fun..privileged as well...Keep filming Matt and get back to your Bonanza asap.
Karlsruhe / Baden-Baden Airpark EDSB - the airport ist right in my neighborhood. I am based at Speyer EDRY, a couple of miles further north of EDSB. Glad to see you stopped by! :) Love your videos!
You lucky guys not crashed.....I was shocked and surprise that you don’t checked the icing conditions specially when you’re flying over Europe before your flight plan has been submitted.?? Please consider this as it serious lessons for your future and for all other pilots how watching your channel !! I always wish for you saves flight .... this is captain Raf from Jordan .
They decided to sink a bit, end of story. That's flying here at this time of the year. With no mountains below them, not a real concern in that aircraft.
The plane has de-icing boots on the wings and tailfeathers, so I think they were not too worried about minor icing. Not sure about the prop, but usually they have heat strips on it if the rest of the plane has de-icing or TKS.
Scary these youngsters are. What would they do if the us government shut off the satellites the control gps and phone communications. They'd be SOL, and probably not alive.
agreed. this wreaks of amateur hour to the point of negligence. Specially when you hear them asking control what the LSALT is for the area they are descending in.
Checking the freezing levels along your route before you fly is great, but the current outside air temperature will never lie to you. It was unexpected because at that OAT, airframe icing is extremely unlikely. I don't think this looks like amateur hour at all. What looks like amateur hour are two random guys on the internet dropping comments about an experienced pilot who has flown around the world in a NON known ice certified airplane. I've been flying professionally for quite a while, and from time to time, you get some ice when you didn't think you would.
I don't agree at all. Asking what the minimum altitude was, I personally think that was a great decision. In the US we call it the minimum vectoring altitude. If I started rapidly picking up ice in a piston single, where my only option to escape it was to go down and not up, I'd really like to know what the lowest altitude I can stay on my clearance is. Did you realize that they were navigating off airway? It's not as simple as just checking an MEA.
This guy is a statistic waiting to happen! He flies crazy hours, spends more time watching screens than looking at the airplane, and is continuously distracted. He's got ADD and that's going to get him and his passengers killed. "Fly the plane kid, stop recording your imminent demise!"
I think Matt is really young. I would have been 100% more harsh at that age. Do we really want people to censor their comments to the extent that they don't say anything? He doesn't like the Europe setup. Why is that crushing to so many? I like that this actually touches on some of the technical aspects of this trip. I watch Louis and I have no idea what is going on other than he is excited and clueless.
The middle of the US is a haven compared to the rest of the world, especially north western Europe, because the middle of the USA is relatively dead in terms of traffic. London, northern Europe etc is absolutely chock full of traffic, especially for the type of flying you wanna do. It's like wanting to ride your push bike in the middle of the freeway
i realize I am a little late to the show but cant stop watching! As an aspiring pilot I find this absolutely incredible. Very impressed and entertained to say the least....
Cool vid guys. Wouldn't be much of a video if you put your cameras down like a lot of commenters are saying. You've probably given up reading this thread but I have a question. How to you store all your data? Do you keep it on hard drives or upload to cloud servers? Cheers
There's a slight temperature rise on the OAT indicator because the air is compressed slightly in and around it. The whiz wheell the Navy issued me when I was a flight engineer in P-3s had an OAT temp rise correction. You need to account for that. If you're that close to freezing on the guage and there's any precipitation, you're in icing conditions. You should have mentioned that to ATC.
Flying in and around Britain is vastly different to the USA. It's common sense to get to know the procedures before attempting to fly in the UK. Otherwise its confusing, you annoy others and potentially mistakes can happen.
LOL. U.K. pilots thinking their shit doesn't stink. Your airspace system sucks. It's over complicated and asinine. That's what happens when you turn it over to a private company. They fuck shit up.
Holy Smokes guys! I hate to be negative, but in shot after shot I was screaming, "Who is flying the damn plane". Significant periods of time passing with not a glance of the panel. Flying in an unfamiliar area, at night, not only in weather but icing conditions, and a lot of distraction in the cockpit. Again, it isn't my intention to bash. But, if an emergency occurs, seconds can count and not having your head in the game can be disastrous. Thanks for the video and fly safe.
It's an edit of a long video. What do you think we do when we are at cruise level on autopilot? The normal thing - fuel, instruments, atc, all blend into "no surprises, smooth sailing". That simple.
At 11:43 minutes you are in Koksy airspace (The Koksy beacon is on the military air base EBFN of Koksijde and this is also the name of the town) Koksijde is where i live here in Belgium.
Matt: based aircraft pay zero fees. Also: even on most international airports, when accepted, touch and go fees are zero. Just for the record. Oh, and stop patronizing. Yes the US is GA paradise, but, do you have universal health care?
Why TF would anyone want Universal Healthcare????? I can pay and get my treatment in days. I dont need to jump into a year long "queue" for basic treatment.
@@maesc2001 Yep and I still dont pay as much as UK in taxes. I definitely am not interested in funding the Royal family sit sit on their royal asses. While telling me my Healthcare is free. You are ignorant if you think your healthcare is free. I would wager you pay twice what I pay and STILL have to wait for treatment. SUCKER!
When you pick busy airports to land at with high landing fees you pay more. The landing fees are not the same at every airport in the UK. The same is true throughout Europe. The only annoying thing I found flying in the UK, flying VFR, was the rather chaotic and overlapping radar service. No doubt if you fly there regularly you figure out who is best to call up. But flying up there once from Switzerland I ended up calling people for radar services north of London based on my preplanning that I wouldn't have if I repeated the trip. The flight back after figuring it out went a lot smoother. France was so much more clear and organised that way.
That music tho. Know how some people are color blind? UA-cam has clearly shown that some people are cheesy-music-blind. Or, would that be: Chessy-music-deaf?
It’s Tropical House music which has plagued UA-cam for a few years now, I’m assuming since there is a lot of royalty free versions. It’s seriously one of my biggest pet peeves
Hi, as much as I liked Louis's channel during his world tour, I don't really feel a need to watch one more of Mr Guthmiller's videos. I'm a professionnal pilot flying through Europe for the last 25 years and never ever heard a so called professionnal pilot complaining so much about flying around Europe. At my early years of flying I used to go to different airports almost every day and I just delt with it. This is what flying is about, or you just want to make money out of it, and that is just business. No problem, go and find a corporate job. I just do not appreciate Mr Guthmiller's attitude towards Europe and as I see not much of the viewers do either. Anyways, young man, fly and fly safe and try to stay humble. Greetings
I didn't hear him complain about Europe has whole once, he complained about the fact that the UK doesn't follow the rest of Europe and the world in it's application of air traffic control processes. The dude has flow around the world, pretty sure he is qualified to have a voice on the different air traffic controlling processes and which ones he sees as working better or not.
"I didn't hear him complain about Europe has whole once, he complained about the fact that the UK doesn't follow the rest of Europe" Actually, the UK and Europe have a common set of rules. It is wrong that "anywhere other than the UK they do everything exactly the same". For a start most of the commonwealth countries (53) have a set of regs that are still very similar to the UK.
It's curious that Matt never seems to respond to constructive comments. Maybe he's afraid of learning from more experience people? A dangerous attitude to have, if that's his mindset.
That's the problem he wrongly assumed the UK works differently from Europe when it does not, London control just has tighter airspace because it is the heaviest congested airspace in Europe. And he was so blatantly wrong about the landing fee's thing.
Also a difference between Europe and US is that recording and publicly disclosing ATC audio is illegal over here (at least in Germany). It is already illegal to listen to it if you are not a pilot in an airplane.
Except that one time when I was listening to ATC on my headphones while I was at the visitors deck at EDDK and the security guys of the airport did care. Luckily I only had to pay a fine and had to sign a paper that I would never do this again.
Then rather go to EDDL Observation Deck in the future. I regularly do some spotting there and listen to even ATC over speaker. No one cares and lately even a federal Policemen asked what Plane would be on the approach next. Besides, it is not strictly forbidden to listen to ATC Transmitions in Germany. But when doing so, u have to use Headphones and must not tell anyone about what you've just heard on the air ;)
Great video! Watching your videos has really inspired me to get my PPL. Just finished ground school and about to take my FAA written. See you in the sky!
@@fordog He's just tagging along for this though, it's the other UA-camrs footing the bill mostly here... Also I don't think googling him fully answers the question.
As heinous as the cessna is, it's actually faster than bonanza and has higher payload. It's also a bit lighter than the bonanza but both are fairly chunky which is why it struggles to take off.
48 years old and yes I LMAO when ATC responded with Direct DIK ...... Thx Matt you got me to go back and restart my Part 61 here in the Brooksville/Zephyrhills area in Florida. I love yours and Stevos vids
Matt, next time for IFR filing in Europe, just go to the website Eurofpl.com. Makes it easy! Not as easy as in Canada/US, but easier than filling out a paper ICAO plan
Interesting, beautifully shot video by gutsy and capable young aviators. The Brits lambasting them below for expressing polite frustration with the distinctions in their airspace system and ATC can fly DIRECT DIK as far as I'm concerned :p
I had a windshield ice over as i took off with a trial lesson in PA28. Half hour flight, the heater just about cleared two ovals about six inches across, enough to see the runway to land. But if this had been in our Cessna 152, it has only one demister slot on the left. That would have been interesting.
That's not a professional behavior on the cockpit. Beyond that, don't be aware of MEA/MSA is unacceptable. When you are flying you must pay attention to everything, airplane parameters the hole time. It has to be taken serious. It's a risky and amateur way to fly. Turn off your mobiles and cameras and do that the right way. Best wishes from Brazil.
That's really, really interesting what he says about flying in the UK vs flying in the US. I didn't grow up in the US but I live here. When I was driving in the UK it showed me how much more enjoyable driving in the US is. There was something incredibly restrictive about road rules in the UK; signs for *everything*, speed limits change sporadically and unpredictably, and cameras everywhere...you feel like you're being watched every second. Quite oppressive really. Not sure if that's what he meant but it rang a bell...
Dude... holy crap was that ATC difficult to understand! It's stressful enough flying into unfamiliar airspace without not being able to desypher the ATC commands. You guys have some balls!
nicholmesza - interestingly, (my experience through/into Germany from USA) is that most of the European Air Traffic Controllers enjoy speaking with American "English" speaking pilots... because I've noticed they pep/chirp up a bit when they realize they have a yankee conversing with them... just saying I've noticed it...
Yes the french accent of the ATC controller was so horrible (I'm french also but I have a better accent than him ahah) and even me I had some difficulties to understand what the ATC wanted to say
Always check paper charts, never use devices as primary for ANYTHING, and check weather before and during p/on the route of flight. Lots of things missed. Lucky kids to be alive still.
He says it all “I don’t even know where we are going”.
Thats tells you the level of preparation!
The last time I watched this I was 15, and this series inspired me to start flying. Got my private last summer
that's awesome, do you still fly / started building your hours?
Makes me happy to see pilots still having a fun time in cockpit with direct to DIK 😂. Loving the videos!
It's BIKOK and ASOLE in this part of the world.
14:15 :)
Yeah having lots of fun that's fine......but at 18.00 he says icing was the last thing on his mind.....Being that unaware,,,, It will someday, be the last thing on his mind.....ever.
January over the mountains in Europe, during the night, 0 C° or below... UNEXPECTED ICING.
How. Unexpected.
They were surprise about a clogged pitot tube north of the arctic circle, too!
They were flying during the summer - this video was uploaded months after flight.
I can't believe so many people giving thumbs up on this retarded comment. They obviously didn't record this in January. Look at their clothings, they were wearing t-shirts and shorts.
Where did you see "mountains" between UK and Germany ?
My ex-gf's father passed away as the result of a plane crash caused by ice on the wings. He was flying with Tony Bettenhausen (Bettenhausen Racing) over Tennessee in a twin engine Cessna. Tony had just been multi-engine qualified and apparently didn't have the autovibrate for the ice. Needless to say they went into a flat spin. Four perished. Pay attention to ice!
situational awareness: zero
Seriously. He is always so distracted in the cockpit, and seems more focused on trying to make videos than fly the plane. Would never get in a plane with him.
And complaining about how Europe actually follows procedures & rules over the unregulated airspace in the US... if you hate flying in Europe, head back over to the US -- nobody there will miss your arrogant American attitude.
''We'll be passing over Dunkirk...I *loved* that movie!'' FFS
Similar to how it sounded like he thought a castle in Scotland and its history was inspired by Game of Thrones in a previous video...
I love coming back to this video, all the dudes flying as the night slowly looms in and the atmosphere gets close, then dealing with the ice, I dunno just something great about it. Top vid Matt
Matt, I generally love your videos but please please please take the time to review the local ATC when you next fly in Europe as it varies vastly depending on which country you are in and helps to avoid a frosty reception. Regarding the high landing fees at Shoreham, not all UK GA airfields cost as much - some just ask for a donation or cost £5, others mirror Shoreham. Hopefully you will fly around the UK again as most airfields are pretty friendly. The Skyway Code produced by the CAA in the UK will give you a quick overview of R/T in the UK without having to read through the 400 or so pages of CAP413!
Matt also needs to learn how to talk to ATC and be more appreciative of how controllers assist him and not take everything for granted.
UK pilots continually forget about ICAO standards of radio phraseology.
Most Americans think we're the reason English is the international standard for aviation communication...
@@Malc478 if this is to complicated for you, you shouldnt be flying a plane, simple as that. These are simple laws and rules that thousands of pilots cope with every year. And every rule and law is there for a reason, usually at the cost of human life, it makes it safer, there is a reason there is controlled airspace, but i guess your to stupid to understand that, JUST TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS MORE, REALLY SHOWS YOUR INTELLIGENCE, a typical american i'm guessing.....
I have to say, that dik thing did make me chuckle. Us lads are so silly sometimes. You missed the opportunity for Kok as well. Dik and kok in one day too much for anyone.
cleared direct DIK, standby for KOK. Better use the autopilot, else risk going blind if you hand fly.
'Making it up as you go' is NOT how professional pilots do it. You need to take the International Procedures Initial course from FlightSafety, and you are legally required to review the AIP for each country you operate through. There's no excuse for just bumbling around.
Len Laughridge yeah the guy is an a hole complains about the plane, complains about other countries' rules, I wouldn't be able to stand him in a plane next to me.
You are so right this guy complains about everything, if the US is so great then go back there Matt we won't miss you !
Len Laughridge you are right ... and also he speaks too much.. its better to enjoy the video with no audio😁😁
I agree with you.
I did my VFR in the US and my IFR in Europe. I understand that in the US everything about aviation is taken less serious. Telecomms are sloppy, procedures are guidelines. So that's where this guy gets his attitude from.
Once you start flying in a really crowded airspace like Europe, you start realizing that preparation is half the work involved in flying.
So I did watch this feeling cringy most of the time. Not a video I would recommend to anybody.
I like this comment. I fly professionally as well, when I have friends or family ask me to fly them for fun on a weekend, I won't go until I check and review everything.
4 guys flying from DIK to KOK, not bad for a joke! :D
Yes, in Europe we have more restrictions, than in the USA. I own the German PPL and the FAA-Licence and I know very well the difference. I love to fly in America! Many happy landings to all of you!
A lot of interesting stuff in this video. It is a legal requirement (not to mention polite and in the best interest of safety) to report icing encounters ... FYI
Im not into flying at all but I actually thought that as well since icing had to be something others would really like to know.
Well said. That is very true. Irresponsible behaviour. But courageous and fascinating adventure.
they clearly dont give a fuck just like they dont care that they are flying and doing 50 other things besides flying. idiots like this are why planes have accidents. report this video and the rest of his videos to the FAA
They clearly have an autopilot which reduces workload in an airplane like this to extremely minimal levels.
So...these guys didn’t film their every radio call. And they have indeed reported pireps. Perhaps we can hold judgment unless we were actually with them on the flight. Thanks.
I'd be wearing my life vest while crossing the channel
I love how when some (definately not all) americans try to pronounce german words and fail, they make a big deal about it and shitting on the language instead of just accepting that they just suck pronouncing it :) props to the people that actually try to accept and respect different cultures
I have flown a lot in the UK, and in particular actually learned to fly in a Tiger Moth at Shoreham, so am very familiar with the Seaford/Lydde routings. We had to land at Lydde and then fly over the channel on the Light aircraft corridor,and I agree with you that the GA systems in the US are one heck of a lot more user friendly than the UK, where light aircraft are most illegal in pretty well all controlled airspace., and by the way the infringement penalties ARE SEVERE! I really enjoyed this video, and applaud you for finding the time to make and edit it, well done.
Hey Matt, great video! I'm a French private pilot and subscriber based in Chicago, your first comment about French ATC made me cringe. Then 2 min later I must admit that the French controller on the radio was the most confusing :D He even seemed to get mad at you guys because you didn't get his accent ;) Anyway, great vid, but after spending 5 years in the US, I'd advise you to adopt slightly more open mindedness towards other cultures, you can only benefit from it :)
I agree, as a Private Pilot in the US, we can only learn from different cultures. And props for not making your comment toxic like 90% of the other commenters from Europe!
@@holdenm1400 I mean, they have a pretty good reason to react negatively. All Matt did was complain about how awful it is over there. Arrogant American syndrome -- and people wonder why Americans are so reviled around the world.
@@AureliusR bro, i posted that comment 3 years ago
thanks for the time capsule :)
Plenty of small GA airports with reasonable landing fees here in the UK. Shoreham is one of the largest, and situated in a very wealthy part of the UK. Agreed the way UK controlled airspace is set up is a bit crazy
Another nice video Matt. I've enjoyed your flying adventures! Hopefully one day I'll get brave and cross the Atlantic in my 310! Watching these videos helps give me an expectation of how ATC works outside of the US.
Matt, I could not agree with you more about flying in the UK. I’m a recently retired 777 captain. I flew that thing to Australia, Asia, South America, and Europe. London Control was the biggest pain a__ I ever dealt with.
LARRY TAYLOR xplane guy right here
So you prefer Australian ATC more? 😁
Gotta love boys being boys! Super serious IFR flying but they erupt in laughter at "continue DIK" - ;-)
Fascinating video, Matt! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into making these. You are the best!
Although the Bonanza probably is better at most things, the 210 is better at:
1. Loading/unloading - 2 doors vs 1 door. Pilot and passengers step up into cabin (in the 210) vs down into cabin through wing walk (in the Bonanza). Much easier for loading and unloading.
2. Visibility - High wing vs low wing, although this is personal preference. High wing is much better for sight seeing.
3. Airplane camping. You can set up your tent under the wing, if you're into that sort of thing.
Hi Matt just love your VLOG! As a frustrated pilot living in Plymouth UK, I am following your epic trip from the US to Europe. Love your coverage such as different camera angles, narration, GREAT music, drone footage & experiences (Haggis/Castles!!) Tell me, are you all from the USA as your friend in the back seat has an English accent? (I can't find his name anywhere). Glad you enjoyed Scotland & now look forward to watching your trip to Austria. I've been there many times & could I suggest a flight over the Salzkammergut (the Austrian Lake District). It is absolutely stunning. East of Salzburg, Wolfgangsee with the Lion shaped mountain & then south to Hallstadt, a town literally perched at the edge of a lake at the foot of a mountain! Keep them coming guys as I just love it all! Will you be covering your return?
Cheers!
People give these kids a break, they are doing way more interesting things than most of us have done in our intire life. You are always going to be new at something!!
Personally, I really enjoy Matt’s sense of humour. Like the ongoing Bonanza vs Cessna jabs. It's a shtick, and it’s great. Just like the whole UK ATC thing. Matt and JP would look at each other and smile each time Matt would launch into it, because they knew it would evoke reaction. And that it did. Sure enough, reaction poured in from the grumpy old pilot peanut gallery - as it always does. I sure hope when I’m a grumpy old pilot I will find enjoyment in videos like these - instead of hurtling criticism and insults at them.
Yep. Both the 210 and the Bonanza are wonderful airplanes and I would happily fly either.
Bingo!
These guys have more aviation knowledge under their belts than I have at twice their age. I struggle to understand even American ATC at times, much less with accents and unfamiliar phraseology inherent with other ATC systems. Crossing the pond in a single engine piston is not something I would ever consider, either. After building an airplane and pulling engines apart and knowing how just one small part can crater an engine...well..such a trip is just beyond my comfort level. These videos are so well done, I get the thrill without the risk.
The art of the troll.
@@briand4000 Engine failures are pretty rare. I have flown single-engine airplanes for more than 2,000 hours without a single engine failure. Driving to the airport is usually more dangerous than flying halfway across the US is a single engine 206 Cessna. Once you get up to altitude in a single engine airplane, about the only thing or person that you have to worry about is yourself. Do everything right and the trip will always turn out OK.
When we travelled around the USA in the early 70's we met a lovely retired couple in the Smokey Mountains , who noticing our Canadian number plates commented that it was a shame we didn't have mountains in Canada !! And that was nearly 50 years ago .
+Kryptoday BS!, they were just ignorant.
Not sure about that , this was the early 70's ,Americans did not get dry humour and this couple was in their eighties I would guess and had retired from running an antique business . I just think they had never travelled north of their border and had no reason to be interested in anything out of the USA and in some way I can understand that as they grew up in a nation that had everything , no need to know .
What makes you think I live in Canada , never lived in Ontario although been there . Lovely country though, as is the USA . Shame about the politicians though .
Some people see conspiracy in everything I guess . In the late 60's and early 70's we did live in Canada now we don't .
I'm glad im not the only one who doesn't understand a thing those ATC were saying
Karlrsruhe; I love that city: I spent three years in high school there between 1962-1965! I suppose it has changed a lot since then, but it's still a great city!
"Continue DIK " i laughed so hard !! I was expecting him to say delta india kilo, but nope, he said dik !
What's funny about it? Are you implying an insult to everyone whose name happens to be Richard - often shortened to Dick, as in Dick van Dyke, Dick Strawbridge, Dick Emery and others? Seriously, it means nothing in Europe, and not even schoolchildren think that it's funny.
You'll be saying that the Irish politician, Willy Stroker, has a funny name next, or that the late Korean statesman, Lee Bum Sook should have changed his name! ;-)
@@RWBHere It seems like some people, even if they can call themselves mature by age and actually fly planes spiritually do not manage to evolve beyond Beavis and Butthead mentality. Sadly enough, this actually can also be diagnosed with certain corporate leaders and politicians these days.
That’s because he’s a dik...
I'm personally surprised there was no comment on their current routing from KOK to DIK. Missed opportunity.
funny if you are 8 years old i guess
Matt, I'm not sure if anyone has ever told you but you have a very calming effect about you. Normally I would feel very anxious and on the edge of panic in that small Cessna over the ocean but I think you would make it bearable. Great content!
DIK, was right under KOK....
Great vlog guys, brings back memories of my flying around...Its all good fun..privileged as well...Keep filming Matt and get back to your Bonanza asap.
Continue DIK was absolutely hilarious 😂😂. Lovely these videos 👏🏻👏🏻
Karlsruhe / Baden-Baden Airpark EDSB - the airport ist right in my neighborhood. I am based at Speyer EDRY, a couple of miles further north of EDSB. Glad to see you stopped by! :) Love your videos!
You lucky guys not crashed.....I was shocked and surprise that you don’t checked the icing conditions specially when you’re flying over Europe before your flight plan has been submitted.?? Please consider this as it serious lessons for your future and for all other pilots how watching your channel !! I always wish for you saves flight .... this is captain Raf from Jordan .
They decided to sink a bit, end of story. That's flying here at this time of the year. With no mountains below them, not a real concern in that aircraft.
The plane has de-icing boots on the wings and tailfeathers, so I think they were not too worried about minor icing. Not sure about the prop, but usually they have heat strips on it if the rest of the plane has de-icing or TKS.
not really. they have de ice boots. maybe not the best decision to fly in it but it would take a substantial amount of ice to make it crash
Before takeoff checklist:
I pad on
Phone in everyone's hand
Camera in everyone's hand
Talk shit about people
Oh yea Wx fuel safety bla bla bla
Scary these youngsters are. What would they do if the us government shut off the satellites the control gps and phone communications. They'd be SOL, and probably not alive.
MH motorVlogs om
Haha. Nice one centurion
"you have passports, right?"
"ehmmm no" :D
Coming back to watch this, the first airfield I flew GA from G-AYOL was the call sign. Long since deregistered.
It's embarrassing to watch this as an American. You have so much to learn, and not just about flying.
he doing better than you so i wouldn't worry about him.
right, says a guy that I bet has never circumnavigated the earth in a GA.
@@frankword9889 He must have some interesting times with ATC if he thinks the UK is odd wait for Africa.
I think you are doing a great job. Wonderful experience, thanks for bringing us along.
DIK jokes are always funny no matter how old you are.
What a great trip. I saw all legs from Boston to Wien in a row. I hope the Corona lockdown is over soon and we can all fly GA again.
Unexpected icing!!!! I’d better say unaware and unexpected pilot!
Ps check your freezing level weather charts next time you plan a flight!
agreed. this wreaks of amateur hour to the point of negligence. Specially when you hear them asking control what the LSALT is for the area they are descending in.
He asked for the minium altitude (IFR), not the lowest safe
Checking the freezing levels along your route before you fly is great, but the current outside air temperature will never lie to you. It was unexpected because at that OAT, airframe icing is extremely unlikely. I don't think this looks like amateur hour at all. What looks like amateur hour are two random guys on the internet dropping comments about an experienced pilot who has flown around the world in a NON known ice certified airplane. I've been flying professionally for quite a while, and from time to time, you get some ice when you didn't think you would.
I don't agree at all. Asking what the minimum altitude was, I personally think that was a great decision. In the US we call it the minimum vectoring altitude. If I started rapidly picking up ice in a piston single, where my only option to escape it was to go down and not up, I'd really like to know what the lowest altitude I can stay on my clearance is. Did you realize that they were navigating off airway? It's not as simple as just checking an MEA.
S4 Aviator here is another smart ass pilot who has a couple hours on Cessna calls him self I’ve been flying professionally for quite a while!
Having learned to fly in the UK and then being lucky enough to fly in Europe, Australia and the US I have to agree with you regarding UK complexity!
This guy is a statistic waiting to happen! He flies crazy hours, spends more time watching screens than looking at the airplane, and is continuously distracted. He's got ADD and that's going to get him and his passengers killed. "Fly the plane kid, stop recording your imminent demise!"
I think Matt is really young. I would have been 100% more harsh at that age. Do we really want people to censor their comments to the extent that they don't say anything? He doesn't like the Europe setup. Why is that crushing to so many?
I like that this actually touches on some of the technical aspects of this trip. I watch Louis and I have no idea what is going on other than he is excited and clueless.
I am laughing my head off watching you confirm DIK with ATC!
The middle of the US is a haven compared to the rest of the world, especially north western Europe, because the middle of the USA is relatively dead in terms of traffic.
London, northern Europe etc is absolutely chock full of traffic, especially for the type of flying you wanna do. It's like wanting to ride your push bike in the middle of the freeway
i am doing my thesis on de-icing procedures.
i realize I am a little late to the show but cant stop watching! As an aspiring pilot I find this absolutely incredible. Very impressed and entertained to say the least....
Matt: *Filing the no camera sign*
Just a fun fact when flying over the UK, you have to fly on the left as well like you do when driving. Not many know that.
Did you ever had someone have a look at that autopilot? The gain is too high and it’s constantly overcorrecting in roll
I agree with you. The flying would be fun but the hoops you have to fly through to go anywhere would be a pain.
14:15 My favourite ATC exchange ever! well done, very entertaining :-)
Cool vid guys. Wouldn't be much of a video if you put your cameras down like a lot of commenters are saying. You've probably given up reading this thread but I have a question. How to you store all your data? Do you keep it on hard drives or upload to cloud servers? Cheers
You'd be insane to fly in cloud without an aircraft approved for icing. Forecasts mean shit. If you're in cloud below zero, expect ice.
There's a slight temperature rise on the OAT indicator because the air is compressed slightly in and around it. The whiz wheell the Navy issued me when I was a flight engineer in P-3s had an OAT temp rise correction. You need to account for that. If you're that close to freezing on the guage and there's any precipitation, you're in icing conditions. You should have mentioned that to ATC.
Not reading back the majority of the mandatory read back instructions! Cleared to enter controlled airspace, service type etc should all be read back!
ignore the flying police - pretty good fun watching you guys buzzing round Europe. Keep it up chaps!
Flying in and around Britain is vastly different to the USA. It's common sense to get to know the procedures before attempting to fly in the UK. Otherwise its confusing, you annoy others and potentially mistakes can happen.
LOL. U.K. pilots thinking their shit doesn't stink. Your airspace system sucks. It's over complicated and asinine. That's what happens when you turn it over to a private company. They fuck shit up.
Welcome to the joys of flying in the UK!
Great content as always 👍🏻
That pilot looks totally lost. Would never fly with him.
What type of plane is this, and why did you choose this to make such a long trip, how much fuel does it hold?
It's a Cessna 210. They had a temporary additional fuel tank installed to increase the range from what it normally is.
Holy Smokes guys! I hate to be negative, but in shot after shot I was screaming, "Who is flying the damn plane". Significant periods of time passing with not a glance of the panel. Flying in an unfamiliar area, at night, not only in weather but icing conditions, and a lot of distraction in the cockpit. Again, it isn't my intention to bash. But, if an emergency occurs, seconds can count and not having your head in the game can be disastrous. Thanks for the video and fly safe.
It's an edit of a long video. What do you think we do when we are at cruise level on autopilot? The normal thing - fuel, instruments, atc, all blend into "no surprises, smooth sailing". That simple.
At 11:43 minutes you are in Koksy airspace (The Koksy beacon is on the military air base EBFN of Koksijde and this is also the name of the town) Koksijde is where i live here in Belgium.
Matt: based aircraft pay zero fees. Also: even on most international airports, when accepted, touch and go fees are zero. Just for the record. Oh, and stop patronizing. Yes the US is GA paradise, but, do you have universal health care?
Lol we don't want that. 🤣
Why TF would anyone want Universal Healthcare????? I can pay and get my treatment in days. I dont need to jump into a year long "queue" for basic treatment.
@@frankword9889 You said it: YOU can pay; US is the land of individualists. Enjoy while you can.
@@maesc2001 Yep and I still dont pay as much as UK in taxes. I definitely am not interested in funding the Royal family sit sit on their royal asses. While telling me my Healthcare is free. You are ignorant if you think your healthcare is free. I would wager you pay twice what I pay and STILL have to wait for treatment. SUCKER!
What do you think of the new super hydrophobic coatings/ surface etchings that stop ice formation?
"We are so immature!" lolzz
I love the shot with the no cameras sign
When you pick busy airports to land at with high landing fees you pay more. The landing fees are not the same at every airport in the UK. The same is true throughout Europe. The only annoying thing I found flying in the UK, flying VFR, was the rather chaotic and overlapping radar service. No doubt if you fly there regularly you figure out who is best to call up. But flying up there once from Switzerland I ended up calling people for radar services north of London based on my preplanning that I wouldn't have if I repeated the trip. The flight back after figuring it out went a lot smoother. France was so much more clear and organised that way.
Wunderbar!
This was an amazing flight all perspectives. Thanks for sharing u should re share again. When is the documentary coming out. Any word ?
That music tho.
Know how some people are color blind? UA-cam has clearly shown that some people are cheesy-music-blind.
Or, would that be: Chessy-music-deaf?
It’s Tropical House music which has plagued UA-cam for a few years now, I’m assuming since there is a lot of royalty free versions. It’s seriously one of my biggest pet peeves
Very well done. Enjoyed the comments, music and mix of views. Excellent!!
I like the last 5 seconds muhahah :)
Well. Great flying. I am glad you all pulled out of your predicament.
Yeah we love red tape in the UK, not always a bad thing to be honest.
that was awesome ride along with you guys great footage as well matt!!!!!!
Hi, as much as I liked Louis's channel during his world tour, I don't really feel a need to watch one more of Mr Guthmiller's videos. I'm a professionnal pilot flying through Europe for the last 25 years and never ever heard a so called professionnal pilot complaining so much about flying around Europe. At my early years of flying I used to go to different airports almost every day and I just delt with it. This is what flying is about, or you just want to make money out of it, and that is just business. No problem, go and find a corporate job.
I just do not appreciate Mr Guthmiller's attitude towards Europe and as I see not much of the viewers do either.
Anyways, young man, fly and fly safe and try to stay humble.
Greetings
I didn't hear him complain about Europe has whole once, he complained about the fact that the UK doesn't follow the rest of Europe and the world in it's application of air traffic control processes.
The dude has flow around the world, pretty sure he is qualified to have a voice on the different air traffic controlling processes and which ones he sees as working better or not.
"I didn't hear him complain about Europe has whole once, he complained about the fact that the UK doesn't follow the rest of Europe"
Actually, the UK and Europe have a common set of rules. It is wrong that "anywhere other than the UK they do everything exactly the same". For a start most of the commonwealth countries (53) have a set of regs that are still very similar to the UK.
It's curious that Matt never seems to respond to constructive comments. Maybe he's afraid of learning from more experience people? A dangerous attitude to have, if that's his mindset.
That's the problem he wrongly assumed the UK works differently from Europe when it does not, London control just has tighter airspace because it is the heaviest congested airspace in Europe. And he was so blatantly wrong about the landing fee's thing.
He was joking he was looking at his friends smiling
I know a guy who flew around the world in a 450 Stearman. BTW, icing at night was always a concern of mine, even in ships with boots and hot props.
Also a difference between Europe and US is that recording and publicly disclosing ATC audio is illegal over here (at least in Germany). It is already illegal to listen to it if you are not a pilot in an airplane.
But actually, no one really cares :D
Except that one time when I was listening to ATC on my headphones while I was at the visitors deck at EDDK and the security guys of the airport did care. Luckily I only had to pay a fine and had to sign a paper that I would never do this again.
Then rather go to EDDL Observation Deck in the future. I regularly do some spotting there and listen to even ATC over speaker. No one cares and lately even a federal Policemen asked what Plane would be on the approach next.
Besides, it is not strictly forbidden to listen to ATC Transmitions in Germany. But when doing so, u have to use Headphones and must not tell anyone about what you've just heard on the air ;)
Actually it is forbidden unless you are licensed. Check the StGB. But agreed, that should be abolished.
Totally. It makes absolutely no sense to prohibit listening in.
Great video! Watching your videos has really inspired me to get my PPL. Just finished ground school and about to take my FAA written. See you in the sky!
Where do you find the money to do this type of flying?
Just Google his name and you can easily find out . Matt Guthmiller
I tend to find most of my money under the couch.
@@fordog He's just tagging along for this though, it's the other UA-camrs footing the bill mostly here... Also I don't think googling him fully answers the question.
As heinous as the cessna is, it's actually faster than bonanza and has higher payload. It's also a bit lighter than the bonanza but both are fairly chunky which is why it struggles to take off.
Louis owns the plane?!? Um, let him ride up front every now and then???
48 years old and yes I LMAO when ATC responded with Direct DIK ...... Thx Matt you got me to go back and restart my Part 61 here in the Brooksville/Zephyrhills area in Florida. I love yours and Stevos vids
I hate that the reason he gets exited flying over Dunkirk is because of the movie
It's the first exposure a lot of people have to the whole thing.
I agree. That movie was not the best in my opinion. Too Hollywood-ized.
Great Video. I travel to Karlsruhe often for work. Nice city to visit in Germany!
Matt, next time for IFR filing in Europe, just go to the website Eurofpl.com. Makes it easy! Not as easy as in Canada/US, but easier than filling out a paper ICAO plan
eurofpl.eu :)
Yes you’re right! It has been a few months since I’ve used their service
Don’t worry :) i actually saw your comment and I was interested so thank you for sharing :)
C Farrugia can someone tell me how much this cessna Cost??
Soufiane Bouatlaoui controller.com should have enough information about pricing ;)
You passed over my house. 😂DIK is a vor standing for dikirsh :d. I loved you faces when you had to talk to Brussels control. Belgian accent hahaha
Interesting, beautifully shot video by gutsy and capable young aviators. The Brits lambasting them below for expressing polite frustration with the distinctions in their airspace system and ATC can fly DIRECT DIK as far as I'm concerned :p
I had a windshield ice over as i took off with a trial lesson in PA28. Half hour flight, the heater just about cleared two ovals about six inches across, enough to see the runway to land. But if this had been in our Cessna 152, it has only one demister slot on the left. That would have been interesting.
That's not a professional behavior on the cockpit. Beyond that, don't be aware of MEA/MSA is unacceptable. When you are flying you must pay attention to everything, airplane parameters the hole time. It has to be taken serious. It's a risky and amateur way to fly. Turn off your mobiles and cameras and do that the right way. Best wishes from Brazil.
That's really, really interesting what he says about flying in the UK vs flying in the US. I didn't grow up in the US but I live here. When I was driving in the UK it showed me how much more enjoyable driving in the US is. There was something incredibly restrictive about road rules in the UK; signs for *everything*, speed limits change sporadically and unpredictably, and cameras everywhere...you feel like you're being watched every second. Quite oppressive really. Not sure if that's what he meant but it rang a bell...
I don't call it oppressive I call it safe🙂
Dude... holy crap was that ATC difficult to understand! It's stressful enough flying into unfamiliar airspace without not being able to desypher the ATC commands. You guys have some balls!
I am with Matt all the way. The communication confusion is disturbing.
nicholmesza - interestingly, (my experience through/into Germany from USA) is that most of the European Air Traffic Controllers enjoy speaking with American "English" speaking pilots... because I've noticed they pep/chirp up a bit when they realize they have a yankee conversing with them... just saying I've noticed it...
Yes the french accent of the ATC controller was so horrible (I'm french also but I have a better accent than him ahah) and even me I had some difficulties to understand what the ATC wanted to say
My friends from Sweden keep an airplane here in the states so they can enjoy the freedom of flying without excessive restrictions and fees.
Always check paper charts, never use devices as primary for ANYTHING, and check weather before and during p/on the route of flight. Lots of things missed. Lucky kids to be alive still.