Its really dumb. The admirals are supposed to contend against the yonko, not their lackeys, mihawk is a yonko and kuzan is an admiral, the only commander that will reach yonko level is zoro, and at the end lol.
i also want to point out that Kidd has only lost to other top tiers. Kidd losing to Beckman, Kaido, and Shanks isnt bad at all. Considering that Law & Kidd will be reintroduced to the story at some point; I think theyll be much stronger when they go through their own training arcs similar to how the strawhats did when they got stomped at sabaody
@@user-xs5iy4ut1qso 1 don't mean strength so nami is Luffy vice captain no a vice captain is some one who can fight admirals not like ur Kat's and kings and Queens Zoro , mihawk , Ben Beckman , kuzan can all fight admirals and give them a high - extreme diff bro😂
W video IMO The fight would definitely be close but with you're scaling and interpretation your opinions are valid, although if somebody were to not believe the Beckman statement and also say that Zoro is under base Luffy (both opinions are valid in my opinion) then I would definitely give the edge to the admirals. I feel like once Beckman gets actual feats we'll know for sure about who wins because rn Mihawk and Aokiji are hard carrying.
If we keep it real. Admirals would beat Kata,Marco without going High-extreme diff in a individuall 1V1. BUT if we talk about, peak Ben Beckman, full power Silvers Rayleigh, full power King the Wildfire, FRESH KoH Zoro, they are hanging with Admirals in their full power. (FOR ME) YES I believe that, current Rayleigh, would in a all out fight, match someone like Fujitora or GB equally.
@@youngfish1370 thats gonna be seen soon guess. Assuming Kaidos Right hand just getting low difft even though we saw how that fight was portayed against acoc Zoro, comes me a bit dishonest to say.
Zoro who couldn't get pass from Rob Lucci? King the same one who lost to Zoro? LMAO the Admirals destroy both of them. Kizaru don't give shit about Ben Beckmann and still continue to attack.
@@joaov.candido8399 we literally got three panels of Zoro vs Lucci where Zoro said to Lucci that "if this is the best he's got it shouldn't be up to the captain to take care of him" Zoro literally says that Lucci's awakening isn't anything special. In addition, from what we have seen from the (panel), Lucci has currently survived longer against Gear 5 than he is currently fighting against Zoro for us viewers.. We also didnt saw a panal of Zoro where he says "King of Hell three sword style" against Lucci so how you can assume that Zoro apparently can't get past Lucci? Kizarau literally did the same with Kuzan to Shanks.. both ignore him and attacked the under water ship where luffy was at.
Could you please do a what if the Straw Hats,the Heart Pirates,the Kid Pirates and so on who are currently as they are in the story now and in the crews the captains obviously are included in a sense could you do a Stampede what if but with everyone as they are now it would be fun as a next video suggestion?
I thought you meant the vice admirals had already killed of some of the admirals, like this was some sort of One Piece version of a TechStarr fan story.
Aokiji is an admiral, and Mihawk is obviously a special case, apart from those 2 the admirals absolutely stomp. Zoro has no case to beat any admirals when his captain basically had a draw with Kizaru, while he was panting over fucking Rob Lucci that Luffy one shot earlier on
In which manga did luffy one shot lucci as shown in the video luffy fought lucci for longer than Zoro fought lucci and luffy used named attacks Zoro is not even using three swordstyle yet and no named attacks
Ok if we’re adding characters like Mihawk and akoji and like EVERY Yonko commander I think it can go either way But if it’s like only yonko commander levelish level kinda like law kid zoro sanji king etc then admirals slam
I think you were a literal generous with Zoro, Kaido very clearly was still suppressed. While I think Asura Zoro overwhelmed that Kaido he wouldn't survive an extended fight with Hybrid Kaido and he definitely would lose to drunken Kaido.
"overwhelmed" he literally could just future sight and dodge if he wanted. Zoro at no point ever overwhelmed Kaido, Kaido was just testing their strength, he was only ever serious Vs Luffy
@@JT-km6th Against Asura we see Kaido temporarily got overpowered not that it mattered because Kaido didn't take him serious. Since Kaido suppresses himself
@@JT-km6th go and reread that panel we see him clearly overpower Kaido actually hurt him. They clash and Zoro wins the clash. My point is that Kaido holds back so even if you overwhelm him once you'll find he quickly gets stronger
one thing to take note of though is how luffy in gear 5 was outclassing a hybrid kaido which is suppose to be the strongest creature. Even taking that with a grain of salt I can’t imagine any of the other yonko have more strength and durability than him so luffy in gear 5 might be strongest than the other yonko. Kizaru being one shot by him only makes sense because to tank an attack like that you need durability comparative to a hybrid kaido
no he didnt. He emitted it during the attack he didnt use it while executing the attack. He only used it on King at the end of their fight and ended up beating him in 3 moves!
For a moment I thought this would be your worst opinion yet, and then you named the strongest of the Yonko Commanders which includes a confirmed Yonko level and possible Yonko level (Mihawk and Ben Beckman) along with Aokiji who can hold Akainu like you said.
Tbr I really don’t count Mihawk and Kuzan as a commander as Mihawk is obviously the Yonko of the crew (idc what anyone says) and Kuzan is obviously up to something and not really a BB Pirate. I think Sabo and Prime Ray along with Beckman and Zoro would be a more fair matchup
Mihawk is the captain as he’s the strongest in the crew and shares his position in the crew with the actual vice captain, Crocodile, Aokiji isn’t the vice captain either just the strongest crew member Blackbeard has, Shiryu and Burgess can both be argued for vice captain but I’d say Shiryu is the best bet, sneaking in Mihawk who’s easily above most yonko’s and someone who literally was an admiral is quite unfair for the admirals, Beckman has no feats but Zoro and the other vice captains we know (Killer, King, Katakuri and Marco) all get absolutely destroyed by even just Greenbull who’s the weakest non featless admiral, Zoro at best scales slightly above base conquerors coated Luffy eventhough a snakeman Luffy got blitzed by Kizaru and a Yamato who scales similar to snakeman Luffy and could barely damage a non serious and non haki using Greenbull meaning Zoro and anyone weaker than him is objectively weaker than Greenbull and Kizaru who are weaker than Akainu meaning you’d only be able to argue them against Fujitora who should be relative to Greenbull meaning they’d still lose, the featless vice captains (Shiryu, Beckman and Crocodile), Crocodile is likely weaker than the admirals as he also has a logia however he doesn’t have powerful haki and a 1 billion berry lower bounty than the admirals, Shiryu should be relative to the admirals as he was able to severally damage Garp who has an equal bounty to the admirals and could keep up with a mentally nerfed and holding back Aokiji however he still scales lower than that Aokiji and considering the relativity Kizaru has with him and Akainu being stronger as well as Aokiji being nerfed in that interaction would mean Shiryu could at best beat Greenbull, Benn Beckman has narrative scaling to Shanks and Kizaru however his scaling to Kizaru gets debunked by the interactions we see between him and Kizaru as well as the source of this comparison being horrible as the same source states Marco is equal to Kizaru which is again debunked in the manga and it says Vista is equal to Mihawk which is also blatantly not true, as for his comparison to shanks it’s a statement about the fear he puts into others and the aura he has not about strength, Beckman has no feats but even if we put all the scalable vice captains (Shiryu, Zoro, King, Marco, Katakuri, Killer and Crocodile) against just Kizaru, Fujitora and Greenbull they’d lose since Killer would get treated similar to the scabbards/all stars by Greenbull, Katakuri is even weaker but even if we ignore the power creep he’d still get blitzed and one tapped by Kizaru like the Luffy he was defeated by, Crocodile should just lose in a 1 on 1 against Fujitora while Greenbull would beat Shiryu if he wouldn’t then Kizaru would, Zoro also gets defeated by Kizaru with ease as we see Luffy who scales to Kizaru toy with Lucci who scales to Zoro, while Marco and King could be annoying due to the healing and lunarian defense but as soon as King turns off his flames he’d get one tapped and blitzed while Marco just gets destroyed by any admiral as shown in Marineford
dude you sound dumb lucci is not as strong as kizaru but kizaru doesn’t scale significantly above him. Lucci was able to clash w/ an awakened Yonko (Luffy in Gear 5th). That’s a feat because many Yonko commanders like Katakuri n more will get blitz by a base Yonko not awakened one. Lucci slightly weaker than an admiral & I would say Zoro is stronger than him which makes scale to a low-tier admiral like Fujitora or Greenbull.
ok this seems a bit unfair since you counted mihawk and aokiji as vice captains since mihawk is yonko level and aokiji was an admiral and benn beckmans power is unknown but if we talking about katakuri zoro benn beckman and marco admirals would def win vice captains only win if they have mihawk and aokiji but even then i still think it would be in the admirals favor
.... bro cooked and burnt the whole place down. You realize one , one piece can go from the final enemy of that arc being defeated easily to one of the low tiers being a tough fight in the next arc. which just shows the powerscaling goes up really quick. and adding on to that the admirals are implied to be around the final arc as villians its just like Dressora to Whole cake is a huge jump because katakuri is basically double doffys power and dont get me started on big mom. also the conquerors haki part is basically irrelevant if its 1/1mil that doesnt matter that means 7000 ppl have it if there are 7 billion people in the one piece world which is definitely false because the world is basically 5x our planets size. so if you really think that captains who are much weaker than the captains themselves then your lying to yourself.
Only reason why this video is facts is because Mihawk and Kuzan are now "commanders". Also because ben beckmann is somewhat relative to shanks (stated in vivre card).
It could be interpreted as his base conqueros haki, exactly how he did it against queen in the raid. But im undecided on either interpretation@@orbboom6119
2 things I don't agree with: -On what basis woulf you rank aokiji above shillew,king,marco? You're already making the assumption that most vice captains are weaker than admirals -Kaido's top 5 really is about the characters who can currently beat him, otherwise it would make no sense: kid kaido would get folded by dozens of characters yet only 5 are in his top, so it's about the characters who are still stronger than him.
Luffy is not in his prime and has yet to surpass Roger as stated by Roger himself. Me personally I believe that Lucci is Sanji or Jimbei level as Luffy is not in his prime and wasn't being serious while I think Zoro is just way too strong for him.
Not kuzan and and mihawk GB , Fuji ,kizaru should be weaker than shanks is weaker than mihawk is the strongest swordman stated by oda and stated in the op world so Kuzan and mihawk carrying u need watch how he said the admirals will losses
Admirals are relatives to yonko and one of them is stronger, it has been shown through out many times. Also kizaru case garp got slumped by pre timeskip luffy in similar fashion and we clearly saw kizaru saw the attack coming and chose to do nothing he even had the time to say ooh and put his finger down.while lufy charge his attack, you dismissed the case of not having the will to fight but reighly pointed our beatenly and showned many times garp vs lre timeskip lufy aokiji vs garp and garp keep telling to sokiji. Honestly the levle you people would go to dismiss admirals credit is insane.
I typed this in accordance to the points your bringing up, this way i can get a better point without having to edit too much. Putting muhawk in here feels like cheating. To everyone outside of cross quild mihawk and crocodile are commanders how ever that is the gurthest from the truth. Its clear mihawk could take an admiral and demolish them, how ever that assumes that admirals teirs are equal to yonko, which is heavily debated, even now: 8j this very video Lucci was literally the test drive of gear 5, zoro taking Lucci shouldn't change that, its clear lucci git stronger but Luffy wasn't using any peak attacks or taking the fight as serious even in gear 5. Zoro managed to give a 3rd of odens dealt damage to kaido, he actually managed ti cut and make kaido bleed, however i dint see that as enough to beat him fully recovered k.o.h. mode vs. kaido either. Luffy's power and zoro's power may seem relative in sime instances but at full capability Luffy would be a teir or 2 above zoro. Id agree with gear 4 after the 3rd oneshot levels of power, as that seems to be the mist consistent. Kaido's perception of haki is correct but this can jusy be chalked up to haki bloom rather than sheer power. Kaido's only true challenge after oden was shanks, he wouldn't have gotten dozens of times stronger, moderately stringer would more consistent with the story, but as far as we know yamato was the one contendung with kaido the most, withiut that kaido would have either deteriorated in power or stayed the same power, as he wasn't out if his prime. If were applying the "rumored strength" to actual ability sure, how ever shanks hadn't made significant moves after beciming a yonko, stopping kaido from entering marine ford and appearing there was likely a rare occurrence for them. Ben beckman being string enough to take on an admiral isnt far fetch'd how ever we shouldn't over estimate him Over all ive agreed with mihawk and ben beckman being able to beat a admiral, i definitely think aokiji can do it, how ever he's no vice captain, that goes to one if the original 4 on teechs ship (if i remeber right, if this buts ering then i guess he does count) In the furst 7 minutes ive agreed with the mihawk statements, aokiji statements, and some of beckman's suppoting arguement. Iver all the only one thats has yet to have me agree us zoro. So i agree, it is a stop on the 3 admirals, how ever thats because these commanders possess lower admiral/yonko portrayal and feats. Mentality matters in one piece, kizaru didn't get dropped, he just took it and said he can definitely get up if given the proper time, kizarus heart isnt in the egghead situation and he's actively trying to just do his job even though his behavior gives it away that he doesn't want to do it, and that it actually pains him to do it. This is something thats been presented since the singke dihit chapters, its also vital when talking abiut haki. For greenbull its clear that he is the most durable but to say he got blitzed is an overstatement, he planted himself into the ground then ate that attack, momonosuke's breath is clearly enough to elemental advantage the mori mori's defensive capabilities but it jist shows that admirals have some form of duranegation resistance like sanii does in egghead I agree that we can just eliminate the 3 admirals with the commander team being as they are, which wiuld also be overwhelming for akainu, too many targets that can guve him actual trouble, if he has an opening all if these people would take it. So i agree, but zoro is the iffy assessment
Fujitora Kizaru and Akainu are out of the league for Zoro and Idk why people turn blind on this that G5 luffy defeated Kaido but Kizaru draws match with G5 luffy 😂
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_itcause mihawk is the strongest commander alive And kuzan is the 2 strongest commander alive u make no sense he said he gonna use the 4 strongest commander
@@kinghjoih1493 mihawk is not a commander hé dont work for buggy Hell crocodile and mihawk contrôle cross cuild equality as buggy And blackbeard vice captain IS shiryu not kuzan
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_ithe still is the vice captain of the crew if we ain't talking how we know buggy a fraud It still look like buggy that captain Mihawk the vice captain Croc the left hand man Doffy the yc3
You are literally having to take Aokiji and Mihawk into the mix just to make this an argument. Aokiji isn’t a vice commander and Mihawk was supposed to be the yonko. Admirals do slaughter the first commanders unless you want to re-decide who is a vice captain.
So zoro ain't Luffy vice captain our nami is Luffy vice captain is some one who can fight admirals not like ur Kat's and kings and Queens Zoro , kuzan, mihawk, Ben Beckman can all fight admirals okay admiral fan
@@kinghjoih1493Zoro is portrayed as luffy’s right hand man. While you can have an argument about mihawk because buggy is an official yonko, the bb pirate’s literally already have a vice captain that is not aokiji and it was like that pre timeskip.
@@user-xs5iy4ut1qu know right buggy had a right hand man before mihawk and it don't matter cause kuzan is pretty much bb right hand man cause bb was trying to get him on his crew
@@kinghjoih1493 how can you prove that kuzan is bb new vice captain? We already had statements about Jesus being a vice captain as well as shiriyu appearing on a panel with vice captain. For buggy you just disproved your statement that mihawk is his vice captain.
@@user-xs5iy4ut1qThat make no sense u can get a new vice captain and bb was begging and was drinking trying to win him over to join his crew and Kuzan can mid diff the whole bb pirates without bb
Mostly agreed, just some points I found iffy -Aramaki didn't know who Yamato was.. he was surprised and slightly shook when he heard she was Kaido's "Son". He definitely didn't know she had a Mythical Zoan type fruit. To which, I'd also note Yamato was instructed not to fight after throwing the first hit. It also scales bad that Aramaki couldn't react to a Boro Breath that was identical to Kaido's. That would have his reaction speed lower than the Rooftop Supernovas, which might be consistent, as Logia usually don't bother dodging non Haki attacks. Especially when they're portrayed to be overconfident such as Aramaki. -It should be noted that Oda's words on Akainu ending one piece in a year is extremely hyperbolic. People do this conversation alot to convey points.. Also the quote is more along the lines of "So when creating a character, one needs to be careful not to make them too strong. For example, if Akainu was the main character, the series wouldn't last a year" and it was told in a joking manner -Assuming Kizaru wasn't weakend on Egghead by conflicting emotions, assuming he was giving 100% in his fight Against Luffy, I believe the commanders would win mid low diff. Simply because Zoro's AP, well swordsmen in particular have high AP. Zoro has comparable to, if not better AP than Luffy. Mihawk's AP naturally upscales from Zoro's.. theoretically, Mihawk, Beckman And Zoro should all be capable of one tapping an Admiral. It's just a matter of "can" they land those attacks. My guess is yeah.
@@kinghjoih1493 I like how you read what I said and only took away "one tap" Assuming Kizaru was at full power, and Luffy one tapped him, it stands to reason that Mihawk and Zoro would one tap him at full power as well, as they both have superior AP to Luffy. The big word here is *"Assuming"* This isn't "my" logic, this is going off the logic of the statement I heard first. Which means you agree that it sounds iffy
@@kinghjoih1493 either you didn't watch the whole video, or you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, either way, please reread and watch everything before the next comment, elsewise explaining further will leave you even more confused
@@_General_Grievous__ ? Chapter 1030 or 1031 smt like that. Colorspread with all the vice captain is drawn, Shilew is here not Aokiji. It’s not even a debate.
zoro is not even near as strong as kaido,base luffy (that clashed with kaido) had FAR stronger and more forms of haki:Future sight and ryo (idk how to spell it) and this was a kaido who was fatigued,injured,holding back (due to his death wish) and holding up an island
This is a terrible misrepresentation of what portrayal is and how it matters in the world of one piece. The admirals were stated to be the strongest forces in the world government at the time the shichibukai's were present, which includes mihawk. Kizaru falling from a single punch indicates a lack of durability, not a lack of overall strength. Just like not using ACoC is a lack of IQ from big mom, not a lack of overall strength. This is a weird and disingenuous trend in powerscaling today, where if Yonkos fall short in a single combat-related category, people automatically defend the overall strength and only critique the yonko for the downfall in that 1 category. Whereas when an admiral falls short in a single category, they are automatically fraudalent overall and are reduced to zoro level. Absolutely pathetic.
The admirals arent apart of the world government, their spefiically apart of the marines which is under the umbrella of the world government (This was confirmed by the narrator when akainu talked with the gorosei where they distinctively put akainu as apart of the navy and the gorosei apart of the world government). The warlods are too (under the umbrella of the world government) in the same sense, but the outline is distinct between the navy and the warlords which was confirmed by garp where he referred to the navy and warlords as separate entitys. Also,The admirals being the strongest force has been said to be attriubed to their rank not the individual themselves, the warlords wouldnt get the chance to even go for the position since they operate under a completely different system as pirates. They can still remain pirates but at the cost of helping the WG and navy, So using the admirals strongest in the navy argument is a disengenous argument that was regurgitated back in 2018 cant believe its starting to be brought back up. When i was talking about kizaru getting one shot i was referring to his durability aspect of his strength not his actual output. I separated each of his stats if you go thru the video. I agree with your last paragraph though.
Because you’re stronger equal to the captain besides if Marco had conquerors HAKI along with devil fruit awakening he would’ve beaten and taken down king and queen
i feel like wano marco could’ve taken one of them in a 1v1. but the thing about marco is that he was already using a lot of his energy healing people. Awakened fruit Marco would go incredibly hard and i think something will push him in the final saga to awaken.
Even with that stuff ppl gotta realize Marco never intended to take anyone down in Wano, it was not his war to begin with. He was only there to support & propel the alliance not to take part in a serious battle. The role would’ve been the same regardless if he had those things or not. For all we know it’s possible he could have something unique with the mythical powers but we still haven’t seen a whole lot from him since he’s literally always supporting a bunch of allies.
Akainu≈Mihawk/Aokiji Kizaru=Zoro . 1st fight, Akainu Vs Mihawk Draw . Both eliminated . Or Akainu Vs Aokiji then 50/49 . 2nd fight , Kizaru Vs Aokiji then Aokiji win Or Kizaru Vs Mihawk then Mihawk . 3rd Ben Backman Vs fujitora Ben win Or Draw . 4th fight Greenbull Vs Zoro Greenbull win . Win Persentage , Admiral 51 , Vice-Captain 49 . Zoro is Wekest Now .
I like how you use the road to ponaglyphs volume to prove Mihawks title but then ignore the fact that in the road to ponaglyph volumes it’s also stated shanks to be the freest man currently on the seas something only given to the pirate king💀and by Mihawks own account Pirate king >world greatest swordsmen Luffy wants to be the freest man on the seas meaning shanks is one of luffys end goals💀 And again BIG MOM NEGS KING MEANING SHE WOULD NEG KING OF HELL ZORO mere commanders get negged by admirals and yonkous It’s why zoro is struggling against lucci The meat riding scaling zoro up to snakeman luffy💀 when he’s no where near that and even if he was kizaru negged snakeman luffy meaning he would body zoro even harder
WSS is solely about strength compared to pirate king which requires a crew, fleet finding ponegliphs which is why it is easier to become a WSS than a pirate king... Pirate king doesn't even require you to be the strongest
Mihawk and Aokiji should be able to high to extreme diff any of the admirals besides the Sakazuki but let's be honest. Neither are VCs. The Beckman statement comparing him to Shanks isn't about his power but his influence so trying to scale him based on that is wrong and Zoro shouldn't even be in this debate. Overall the Admirals are stronger than the Vice Captains. The agenda pushing in the One Piece community never ceases to make me laugh.
Power scaling is stupid overall. Because in a fight do you know who wins? The one Oda wants to win to advance the plot, and that's it lol. But if we have to powerscale I'd say the admirals are around YC level and the Gorosei around Yonko level since they are the final and highest threat( and we have some feats from Saint Saturn that back this up too)
What? Cross Guild doesnt have a vice captain and BB's vice captain is stated as Shusui. Watch people run with this dumbass agenda vice captains > admirals, its such a bad take.
Mihawk literally can't be weaker than shanks it would directly kill his character purpose... he can only be equal if not stronger.. also shanks is directly confirmed to be a swordsman ... It's just the assumption of shanks fans that believes he isn't a swordsman while the story has always shown him to use a sword he fights
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru so by extension, Law, Big Mom, Kaido are swordsmen. Whitebeard is also a swordsman which makes Mihawk stronger than Whitebeard because he uses his naginata (refered to as a supreme grade "sword")
Mihawk=Yonko level due to WSS Zoro=Relative to yonko tier due to scarring hybrid Kaido without fully mastered acoc or enma, King should be relative to this tier since he fought a less weakened Zoro even if he was in base Beckman=Low end yonko level, in the vivre card of film red it’s stated that his haki is too immense for Kizaru Kuzan:Yonko level, he fought with Akainu for 10 days giving him a immense haki boost and previous to this was able to freeze Wb and one shot Jozu and casually block a high speed kick from Marco (acceleration is power, speed x mass=power) he also clashed with Ace while Aces perspective of the clash was a flame wall attack while Aokiji just formed a ice defense wall, Kuzan fought with Garp and Garp states holding back is stupid basically implying Garp isn’t holding back, Garp is also using acoc and Kuzan isn’t using adv arm or obs(he has both) and they clash and he doesn’t even use his fruit in the clash Admirals: Fujitora:yonko level relative to Ryokugyu via Reverie Ryokugyu: yonko level, negged queen and king in the manga, literally off screened them and stated it’d be disgraceful if people such as them gave him trouble Akainu: >Kuzan Kizaru: Yonko level, damaged WB with a laser and fought with Luffy and made Rayleigh child’s play and held back against Marco now all the fights Kuzan vs Akainu(Very extreme diff and would last a long time, whoever’s team comes out on top first will give them the edge) Ben vs Kizaru(Probably high diff, Ben wins) Mihawk Vs Fuji(Mihawk absolutely slams, Mid-High diff) Zoro vs Ryokugyu(Zoro gets mid-high diffed After Ryokgyu beats Zoro and Mihawk beats Fuji (it’ll be about the same amount of time) they could fight each other, After Mihawk beats Ryo he could help Kuzan or Ryo could try to help Kizaru but then he would have to fight Ben+Mihawk and get violated, he could try and help Akainu but he would have to fight Mihawk+Kuzan and get destroyed
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Putting Mihawk and Aokiji as vice captains is kind of cheating.
How cause that they in the 4 strongest vice captains
@@kinghjoih1493never was it stated that aokiji or mihawk is a vice captain especially aokiji
@@FfbjrjrnfddjdjBro so zoro is not luffy vice captain sense it have not been said
@@Ffbjrjrnfddjdjthey are vice captain its not like any thing against admirals these vice captain can defeat yonko too
it's not fair cause Mihawk is stronger then most yonko's and Aokiji was the second strongest admiral before he was a pirate@@kinghjoih1493
The only reason I'm tolerating this goofy agenda is because I like ur channel
Its not against admirals or anything vice commander can even defeat all yonko too because of mihawk and kuzan
Its really dumb.
The admirals are supposed to contend against the yonko, not their lackeys, mihawk is a yonko and kuzan is an admiral, the only commander that will reach yonko level is zoro, and at the end lol.
@@orbboom6119 Mihawk isn’t a yonko though, he may be as strong as one, but he isn’t one.
@@crazygamer-mr6nr yes i meant he is strong as one obviously
It's all facts tho
-marco fails to damage kizaru
-king fails to touch greenbull
-benn beckman fails to scare kizaru
-zoro can't even one tap Lucci with ACOC
To be fair king was pretty weak and marco hurts aokiji pre ts also kizaru is just slow but I still don’t think they win
Zoro didn’t even hit Lucci with ACOC yet
@@jaredbowen3527 he is using Koh mode on Lucci you can't see his ACOC "flames"
@@sloppygusapMarco kicked aokiji a few ft away and didn’t damage him at all
And he’s using film red as a scaling source😭
i also want to point out that Kidd has only lost to other top tiers. Kidd losing to Beckman, Kaido, and Shanks isnt bad at all. Considering that Law & Kidd will be reintroduced to the story at some point; I think theyll be much stronger when they go through their own training arcs similar to how the strawhats did when they got stomped at sabaody
Planning on a kidd video soon, the downplay for him is too harsh imo
@@IMO3530 it really is. especially since Oda said he has big plans for kidd and law in the final saga 👀
Fr people Always like " captain mid "
" Useless kid " do to losing to shanks a yonko
@@tannermarkland5214 I can't wait to see what those plans are.
Yeah they act like kidd lost to fodder. I mean luffy lost to kaido multiple times😂 and prob 99% of the one piece verse would get one hit by shanks too
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Aokiji isn’t a vice captain, he’s just a second strongest bb pirate
Bro he in the 4 strongest vice captain what are people on today
@@kinghjoih1493 he is the 10th titanic captain(as I remember), not the 1st. It’s not just about strength
@@user-xs5iy4ut1qso 1 don't mean strength so nami is Luffy vice captain no a vice captain is some one who can fight admirals not like ur Kat's and kings and Queens
Zoro , mihawk , Ben Beckman , kuzan can all fight admirals and give them a high - extreme diff bro😂
I’m pretty sure he’s the strongest bbp they ALL shit their pants when he threatened them including Blackbeard
@@seaweed5debatable tbh
All you’re doing is spitting bro 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!
W video IMO
The fight would definitely be close but with you're scaling and interpretation your opinions are valid, although if somebody were to not believe the Beckman statement and also say that Zoro is under base Luffy (both opinions are valid in my opinion) then I would definitely give the edge to the admirals.
I feel like once Beckman gets actual feats we'll know for sure about who wins because rn Mihawk and Aokiji are hard carrying.
Good vid, I think its kinda hard to include Mihawk and Aokiji as vice captains, but technically they are, good vid Buggy solos
Beautiful video and the most fair, not driven by agenda!
Finally a guy who’s not underestimate Ben Beckman.
If we keep it real. Admirals would beat Kata,Marco without going High-extreme diff in a individuall 1V1. BUT if we talk about, peak Ben Beckman, full power Silvers Rayleigh, full power King the Wildfire, FRESH KoH Zoro, they are hanging with Admirals in their full power. (FOR ME)
YES I believe that, current Rayleigh, would in a all out fight, match someone like Fujitora or GB equally.
Annnndddd you lost me with the Rayleigh thing
Zoro and Kjng are getting low diffed
@@youngfish1370 thats gonna be seen soon guess. Assuming Kaidos Right hand just getting low difft even though we saw how that fight was portayed against acoc Zoro, comes me a bit dishonest to say.
Zoro who couldn't get pass from Rob Lucci? King the same one who lost to Zoro? LMAO the Admirals destroy both of them.
Kizaru don't give shit about Ben Beckmann and still continue to attack.
@@joaov.candido8399 we literally got three panels of Zoro vs Lucci where Zoro said to Lucci that "if this is the best he's got it shouldn't be up to the captain to take care of him" Zoro literally says that Lucci's awakening isn't anything special. In addition, from what we have seen from the (panel), Lucci has currently survived longer against Gear 5 than he is currently fighting against Zoro for us viewers.. We also didnt saw a panal of Zoro where he says "King of Hell three sword style" against Lucci so how you can assume that Zoro apparently can't get past Lucci?
Kizarau literally did the same with Kuzan to Shanks.. both ignore him and attacked the under water ship where luffy was at.
Could you please do a what if the Straw Hats,the Heart Pirates,the Kid Pirates and so on who are currently as they are in the story now and in the crews the captains obviously are included in a sense could you do a Stampede what if but with everyone as they are now it would be fun as a next video suggestion?
When you said vice captain I thought you meant zoro, Marco,king and ben. Then I hear mihawk and I knew the admirals are done for
Love the penguin pfp
I strongly agree with this
Bro snuck in that hiyori clip 😂
what was the instrumental you used for this video?
I thought you meant the vice admirals had already killed of some of the admirals, like this was some sort of One Piece version of a TechStarr fan story.
Aokiji is an admiral, and Mihawk is obviously a special case, apart from those 2 the admirals absolutely stomp. Zoro has no case to beat any admirals when his captain basically had a draw with Kizaru, while he was panting over fucking Rob Lucci that Luffy one shot earlier on
In which manga did luffy one shot lucci as shown in the video luffy fought lucci for longer than Zoro fought lucci and luffy used named attacks Zoro is not even using three swordstyle yet and no named attacks
kinda off topic, but won't Greenull have infinite stamina and maybe infinite endurance if he has access to water and sunlight?
Dad im standing on business😤😤
Kizaru if he could actually move at the speed if light:
Akainu's goal may be to annihilate all pirates, but in onepiece itself the goal is to find the onepiece, thats when it would end.
honestly buffing Lucci to YC++ is such a comically bad decision. Like seriously who asked for that? who needed him back?
Vice captain is the most important position on a crew.
Ok if we’re adding characters like Mihawk and akoji and like EVERY Yonko commander I think it can go either way
But if it’s like only yonko commander levelish level kinda like law kid zoro sanji king etc then admirals slam
mohjis the vice capt of the buggy pirates
Is mihawk actually a vice captain? I do know for sure Aokiji isn't. Shiryu is tho.
1:48 yooo I’m rewatching this n I ain’t een realize that till now 😂
The Admiral agenda not gonna wanna hear this 😭😭
Icel, ever since 1094 that shi has TANKED
I think you were a literal generous with Zoro, Kaido very clearly was still suppressed. While I think Asura Zoro overwhelmed that Kaido he wouldn't survive an extended fight with Hybrid Kaido and he definitely would lose to drunken Kaido.
"overwhelmed" he literally could just future sight and dodge if he wanted. Zoro at no point ever overwhelmed Kaido, Kaido was just testing their strength, he was only ever serious Vs Luffy
@@JT-km6th Against Asura we see Kaido temporarily got overpowered not that it mattered because Kaido didn't take him serious. Since Kaido suppresses himself
@@mr.quirrel4982 at not a single point did Zoro overpower Kaido, Zoro's peak never reached Kaido.
@@JT-km6th go and reread that panel we see him clearly overpower Kaido actually hurt him. They clash and Zoro wins the clash. My point is that Kaido holds back so even if you overwhelm him once you'll find he quickly gets stronger
And when I say he overwhelmed him I'm not implying he's above Kaido. Kaido clearly didn't take him serious
one thing to take note of though is how luffy in gear 5 was outclassing a hybrid kaido which is suppose to be the strongest creature. Even taking that with a grain of salt I can’t imagine any of the other yonko have more strength and durability than him so luffy in gear 5 might be strongest than the other yonko. Kizaru being one shot by him only makes sense because to tank an attack like that you need durability comparative to a hybrid kaido
i just dont agree how ppl think that admirals vs vice captains isnt even close
Non of the admirals have really gone all out
Just wanna say before watching that greenbull low-mid diffs sanji, jinbe, and zoro at once
😂😂 nah GB high - extreme diff for zoro and sanji high diff
Zoro did use conqueror’s against Kiado 😂 he just didn’t know it
no he didnt. He emitted it during the attack he didnt use it while executing the attack. He only used it on King at the end of their fight and ended up beating him in 3 moves!
For a moment I thought this would be your worst opinion yet, and then you named the strongest of the Yonko Commanders which includes a confirmed Yonko level and possible Yonko level (Mihawk and Ben Beckman) along with Aokiji who can hold Akainu like you said.
Tbr I really don’t count Mihawk and Kuzan as a commander as Mihawk is obviously the Yonko of the crew (idc what anyone says) and Kuzan is obviously up to something and not really a BB Pirate. I think Sabo and Prime Ray along with Beckman and Zoro would be a more fair matchup
no buggy is the yonko are u stupid
why not raelagh (idk how to spell it) roger vice captain
Yooo 3rd comment cuz guy put 2 comment's before me!
Not Geo with the AOT pfp💀
Wtf is u saying
Background music 💀💀💀
And do you think white beard was a vice captain of rocks, because someone said he was
Mihawk is the captain as he’s the strongest in the crew and shares his position in the crew with the actual vice captain, Crocodile, Aokiji isn’t the vice captain either just the strongest crew member Blackbeard has, Shiryu and Burgess can both be argued for vice captain but I’d say Shiryu is the best bet, sneaking in Mihawk who’s easily above most yonko’s and someone who literally was an admiral is quite unfair for the admirals, Beckman has no feats but Zoro and the other vice captains we know (Killer, King, Katakuri and Marco) all get absolutely destroyed by even just Greenbull who’s the weakest non featless admiral, Zoro at best scales slightly above base conquerors coated Luffy eventhough a snakeman Luffy got blitzed by Kizaru and a Yamato who scales similar to snakeman Luffy and could barely damage a non serious and non haki using Greenbull meaning Zoro and anyone weaker than him is objectively weaker than Greenbull and Kizaru who are weaker than Akainu meaning you’d only be able to argue them against Fujitora who should be relative to Greenbull meaning they’d still lose, the featless vice captains (Shiryu, Beckman and Crocodile), Crocodile is likely weaker than the admirals as he also has a logia however he doesn’t have powerful haki and a 1 billion berry lower bounty than the admirals, Shiryu should be relative to the admirals as he was able to severally damage Garp who has an equal bounty to the admirals and could keep up with a mentally nerfed and holding back Aokiji however he still scales lower than that Aokiji and considering the relativity Kizaru has with him and Akainu being stronger as well as Aokiji being nerfed in that interaction would mean Shiryu could at best beat Greenbull, Benn Beckman has narrative scaling to Shanks and Kizaru however his scaling to Kizaru gets debunked by the interactions we see between him and Kizaru as well as the source of this comparison being horrible as the same source states Marco is equal to Kizaru which is again debunked in the manga and it says Vista is equal to Mihawk which is also blatantly not true, as for his comparison to shanks it’s a statement about the fear he puts into others and the aura he has not about strength, Beckman has no feats but even if we put all the scalable vice captains (Shiryu, Zoro, King, Marco, Katakuri, Killer and Crocodile) against just Kizaru, Fujitora and Greenbull they’d lose since Killer would get treated similar to the scabbards/all stars by Greenbull, Katakuri is even weaker but even if we ignore the power creep he’d still get blitzed and one tapped by Kizaru like the Luffy he was defeated by, Crocodile should just lose in a 1 on 1 against Fujitora while Greenbull would beat Shiryu if he wouldn’t then Kizaru would, Zoro also gets defeated by Kizaru with ease as we see Luffy who scales to Kizaru toy with Lucci who scales to Zoro, while Marco and King could be annoying due to the healing and lunarian defense but as soon as King turns off his flames he’d get one tapped and blitzed while Marco just gets destroyed by any admiral as shown in Marineford
dude you sound dumb lucci is not as strong as kizaru but kizaru doesn’t scale significantly above him. Lucci was able to clash w/ an awakened Yonko (Luffy in Gear 5th). That’s a feat because many Yonko commanders like Katakuri n more will get blitz by a base Yonko not awakened one. Lucci slightly weaker than an admiral & I would say Zoro is stronger than him which makes scale to a low-tier admiral like Fujitora or Greenbull.
i ain't reading allat
I agree people keep thinking just because kuzan is the strongest he is the vice captain when its just not true and never ven hinted at
Bro forgot that Yamato was in base
Blud forgot base yammato drew blood from kaido
Beckman, Aokiji and Mihawk carry lol.
ok this seems a bit unfair since you counted mihawk and aokiji as vice captains since mihawk is yonko level and aokiji was an admiral and benn beckmans power is unknown but if we talking about katakuri zoro benn beckman and marco admirals would def win vice captains only win if they have mihawk and aokiji but even then i still think it would be in the admirals favor
Btw gear 5 vs lucci, luffy might not have use advanced haki and if he wanted to,he could have beaten lucco with advanced haki in gear 4
This is not luffy’s peak bro
12:37 is it just me or did bro really just say "Za painter"
No one Even Mihawk Aint Touching The Red Dog Sakazuki
Mihawk and Kuzan beating that paper worker
Kuzan can fight him 10 days and mihawk is above him because of narrative
@@captain5996 ???
@@captain5996he isn’t
R nobody talking about how king and queen just got mop in 2 seconds !!! What duh fuck!!!
.... bro cooked and burnt the whole place down. You realize one , one piece can go from the final enemy of that arc being defeated easily to one of the low tiers being a tough fight in the next arc. which just shows the powerscaling goes up really quick. and adding on to that the admirals are implied to be around the final arc as villians its just like Dressora to Whole cake is a huge jump because katakuri is basically double doffys power and dont get me started on big mom. also the conquerors haki part is basically irrelevant if its 1/1mil that doesnt matter that means 7000 ppl have it if there are 7 billion people in the one piece world which is definitely false because the world is basically 5x our planets size. so if you really think that captains who are much weaker than the captains themselves then your lying to yourself.
Only reason why this video is facts is because Mihawk and Kuzan are now "commanders". Also because ben beckmann is somewhat relative to shanks (stated in vivre card).
These vice captains even defeat the current yonko too
They can defeat bm , bb , buggy , kaido , luffy ,shanks cause he is weaker than mihawk
+ they got kuzan and Ben Beckman and zoro
Here the no prime wb
@@kinghjoih1493 the vice commanders have mihawk and kuzan they carry them
@@captain5996yay they gonna Carry fr fr fr
@@kinghjoih1493ya only yonko who can defeat mihawk is prime whitebread but we don't know when whitebread become yonko
@@captain5996True
Hey I wanna correct his Ashura form was using color of the supreme king it was confirmed by Kaido
ambigious imo
Ambigous to have a character literally say it😂
It could be interpreted as his base conqueros haki, exactly how he did it against queen in the raid. But im undecided on either interpretation@@orbboom6119
Yes base conquerer haki can injure Kaido how would Kaido know if Zoro couldn’t infuse yet @@IMO3530
@@orbboom6119doffy and luffy also used conq when they clashed does that mean it was conq coating or acoc
how many times u gon say kaido is stronger than shanks
Dad the comander was gonna win cause fuji = a mihawk victim
2 things I don't agree with:
-On what basis woulf you rank aokiji above shillew,king,marco? You're already making the assumption that most vice captains are weaker than admirals
-Kaido's top 5 really is about the characters who can currently beat him, otherwise it would make no sense: kid kaido would get folded by dozens of characters yet only 5 are in his top, so it's about the characters who are still stronger than him.
Kaido clearly says that these people can give him a good fight but you people just want to twist that for the sake of your agenda
BRO THEY MEAN REGULAR COMMANDERS NOT SOMEONEWHO IS ON THE SAME LVL AS YONKO AND AN ANOTHER ONE ADMIRAL LVL THATS NOT FAIR👿👿👿👿👿👿👿😠😠😠😠 im coming for you
Luffy is not in his prime and has yet to surpass Roger as stated by Roger himself. Me personally I believe that Lucci is Sanji or Jimbei level as Luffy is not in his prime and wasn't being serious while I think Zoro is just way too strong for him.
If the admirals are compared to the yonko how can they be beat by the admirals
because the vice captains are also compared to the yonkos ,
bro the admirals wipe the yonko commanders
Not kuzan and and mihawk
GB , Fuji ,kizaru should be weaker than shanks is weaker than mihawk is the strongest swordman stated by oda and stated in the op world so
Kuzan and mihawk carrying u need watch how he said the admirals will losses
exept for mihawk and kuzan the others get wiped@@kinghjoih1493
@@kinghjoih1493 Mihawk isn't a vice captain, he's his own captain lol
Mihawk above shanks and aokiji above shiliew ☠️☠️☠️
mihawk isnt a commander tho... cross guild isnt even buggy's crew...
Admirals are relatives to yonko and one of them is stronger, it has been shown through out many times. Also kizaru case garp got slumped by pre timeskip luffy in similar fashion and we clearly saw kizaru saw the attack coming and chose to do nothing he even had the time to say ooh and put his finger down.while lufy charge his attack, you dismissed the case of not having the will to fight but reighly pointed our beatenly and showned many times garp vs lre timeskip lufy aokiji vs garp and garp keep telling to sokiji. Honestly the levle you people would go to dismiss admirals credit is insane.
Never cook again.
Aokiji isn’t a vice captain, shiriyu is.
Even with mihawk, akainu and gb solo
Mihawk isn't a vice captain either, he's just in a alliance with buggy and created a organisation with him and croc, not apart of his crew lol.
@@ProphetLotmeh, I’m being really generous with my comment
I typed this in accordance to the points your bringing up, this way i can get a better point without having to edit too much.
Putting muhawk in here feels like cheating. To everyone outside of cross quild mihawk and crocodile are commanders how ever that is the gurthest from the truth. Its clear mihawk could take an admiral and demolish them, how ever that assumes that admirals teirs are equal to yonko, which is heavily debated, even now: 8j this very video
Lucci was literally the test drive of gear 5, zoro taking Lucci shouldn't change that, its clear lucci git stronger but Luffy wasn't using any peak attacks or taking the fight as serious even in gear 5.
Zoro managed to give a 3rd of odens dealt damage to kaido, he actually managed ti cut and make kaido bleed, however i dint see that as enough to beat him fully recovered k.o.h. mode vs. kaido either. Luffy's power and zoro's power may seem relative in sime instances but at full capability Luffy would be a teir or 2 above zoro. Id agree with gear 4 after the 3rd oneshot levels of power, as that seems to be the mist consistent. Kaido's perception of haki is correct but this can jusy be chalked up to haki bloom rather than sheer power.
Kaido's only true challenge after oden was shanks, he wouldn't have gotten dozens of times stronger, moderately stringer would more consistent with the story, but as far as we know yamato was the one contendung with kaido the most, withiut that kaido would have either deteriorated in power or stayed the same power, as he wasn't out if his prime.
If were applying the "rumored strength" to actual ability sure, how ever shanks hadn't made significant moves after beciming a yonko, stopping kaido from entering marine ford and appearing there was likely a rare occurrence for them. Ben beckman being string enough to take on an admiral isnt far fetch'd how ever we shouldn't over estimate him
Over all ive agreed with mihawk and ben beckman being able to beat a admiral, i definitely think aokiji can do it, how ever he's no vice captain, that goes to one if the original 4 on teechs ship (if i remeber right, if this buts ering then i guess he does count)
In the furst 7 minutes ive agreed with the mihawk statements, aokiji statements, and some of beckman's suppoting arguement.
Iver all the only one thats has yet to have me agree us zoro.
So i agree, it is a stop on the 3 admirals, how ever thats because these commanders possess lower admiral/yonko portrayal and feats.
Mentality matters in one piece, kizaru didn't get dropped, he just took it and said he can definitely get up if given the proper time, kizarus heart isnt in the egghead situation and he's actively trying to just do his job even though his behavior gives it away that he doesn't want to do it, and that it actually pains him to do it. This is something thats been presented since the singke dihit chapters, its also vital when talking abiut haki.
For greenbull its clear that he is the most durable but to say he got blitzed is an overstatement, he planted himself into the ground then ate that attack, momonosuke's breath is clearly enough to elemental advantage the mori mori's defensive capabilities but it jist shows that admirals have some form of duranegation resistance like sanii does in egghead
I agree that we can just eliminate the 3 admirals with the commander team being as they are, which wiuld also be overwhelming for akainu, too many targets that can guve him actual trouble, if he has an opening all if these people would take it.
So i agree, but zoro is the iffy assessment
Fujitora Kizaru and Akainu are out of the league for Zoro and Idk why people turn blind on this that G5 luffy defeated Kaido but Kizaru draws match with G5 luffy 😂
Zoro getting carried, he is not even close to the other ones
He will get stronger
Its only close if you have kuzan as vice commanders even tho he isnt shiryu is
Édit : ohh right hé include mihawk as well
Fr why did he choose mihawk and kuzan as the commanders of the video knowing they are above that tier
@@rxyvon9381 fr Beckman is alright hé is one but mihawk and kuzan are not
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_itcause mihawk is the strongest commander alive
And kuzan is the 2 strongest commander alive u make no sense he said he gonna use the 4 strongest commander
@@kinghjoih1493 mihawk is not a commander hé dont work for buggy
Hell crocodile and mihawk contrôle cross cuild equality as buggy
And blackbeard vice captain IS shiryu not kuzan
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_ithe still is the vice captain of the crew if we ain't talking how we know buggy a fraud
It still look like buggy that captain
Mihawk the vice captain
Croc the left hand man
Doffy the yc3
Mihawk beats Akainu
Kuzan beats Kizaru
Beckman beats Fuji
Zoro beats GB
All Extreme diff
no
Only 4 vice admirals that we know can beat an admiral like kizaru these are : prime Rayleigh (maybe) , Ben Beckman ( prolly) , white beard , mihawk
king, zoro, beckman and katakuri would slaughter all them fraudmirals
Akainu alone is enough for king , zoro and beckman.,.....lol
You are literally having to take Aokiji and Mihawk into the mix just to make this an argument.
Aokiji isn’t a vice commander and Mihawk was supposed to be the yonko. Admirals do slaughter the first commanders unless you want to re-decide who is a vice captain.
So zoro ain't Luffy vice captain our nami is Luffy vice captain is some one who can fight admirals not like ur Kat's and kings and Queens
Zoro , kuzan, mihawk, Ben Beckman can all fight admirals okay admiral fan
@@kinghjoih1493Zoro is portrayed as luffy’s right hand man. While you can have an argument about mihawk because buggy is an official yonko, the bb pirate’s literally already have a vice captain that is not aokiji and it was like that pre timeskip.
@@user-xs5iy4ut1qu know right buggy had a right hand man before mihawk and it don't matter cause kuzan is pretty much bb right hand man cause bb was trying to get him on his crew
@@kinghjoih1493 how can you prove that kuzan is bb new vice captain? We already had statements about Jesus being a vice captain as well as shiriyu appearing on a panel with vice captain. For buggy you just disproved your statement that mihawk is his vice captain.
@@user-xs5iy4ut1qThat make no sense u can get a new vice captain and bb was begging and was drinking trying to win him over to join his crew and Kuzan can mid diff the whole bb pirates without bb
Mostly agreed, just some points I found iffy
-Aramaki didn't know who Yamato was.. he was surprised and slightly shook when he heard she was Kaido's "Son". He definitely didn't know she had a Mythical Zoan type fruit. To which, I'd also note Yamato was instructed not to fight after throwing the first hit. It also scales bad that Aramaki couldn't react to a Boro Breath that was identical to Kaido's. That would have his reaction speed lower than the Rooftop Supernovas, which might be consistent, as Logia usually don't bother dodging non Haki attacks. Especially when they're portrayed to be overconfident such as Aramaki.
-It should be noted that Oda's words on Akainu ending one piece in a year is extremely hyperbolic. People do this conversation alot to convey points.. Also the quote is more along the lines of "So when creating a character, one needs to be careful not to make them too strong. For example, if Akainu was the main character, the series wouldn't last a year" and it was told in a joking manner
-Assuming Kizaru wasn't weakend on Egghead by conflicting emotions, assuming he was giving 100% in his fight Against Luffy, I believe the commanders would win mid low diff. Simply because Zoro's AP, well swordsmen in particular have high AP. Zoro has comparable to, if not better AP than Luffy. Mihawk's AP naturally upscales from Zoro's.. theoretically, Mihawk, Beckman And Zoro should all be capable of one tapping an Admiral. It's just a matter of "can" they land those attacks. My guess is yeah.
One tap is crazy u on something the vice captain winning extreme diff
Aramaki didnt dodge cuz he was a giant fucking stationary tree lmao
@@kinghjoih1493 I like how you read what I said and only took away "one tap"
Assuming Kizaru was at full power, and Luffy one tapped him, it stands to reason that Mihawk and Zoro would one tap him at full power as well, as they both have superior AP to Luffy. The big word here is *"Assuming"*
This isn't "my" logic, this is going off the logic of the statement I heard first. Which means you agree that it sounds iffy
@@hushsilence8932bro there no assuming they ain't one taping a admiral stop using the word assuming
@@kinghjoih1493 either you didn't watch the whole video, or you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, either way, please reread and watch everything before the next comment, elsewise explaining further will leave you even more confused
Its mihawk>akainu>aokiji>admirals>beckman(barely weaker)>zoro.pin me
W Fax
Wrong signe bro
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_it i see thanks i change it
@@eriktrp im never wrong .
Bro, slow down. mihawk doesn't have haki on the level has shanks kaido sad that already bro
Shilew is the vic captain not Aokiji, Aokiji is like queen sanji smoothie ace
Cap
@@_General_Grievous__ ? Chapter 1030 or 1031 smt like that. Colorspread with all the vice captain is drawn, Shilew is here not Aokiji. It’s not even a debate.
Mihaek isn’t even a pirate lit alone a Vic catpon
He is he is apart of the cross guild/buggy crew and he is vice captain
Putting Mihawk, and Shanks is cheating.
Saying Brn Beckman is relative to Shanks is yanking him.
Ben Beckman might be weakest admiral level.
zoro is not even near as strong as kaido,base luffy (that clashed with kaido) had FAR stronger and more forms of haki:Future sight and ryo (idk how to spell it) and this was a kaido who was fatigued,injured,holding back (due to his death wish) and holding up an island
This is a terrible misrepresentation of what portrayal is and how it matters in the world of one piece.
The admirals were stated to be the strongest forces in the world government at the time the shichibukai's were present, which includes mihawk.
Kizaru falling from a single punch indicates a lack of durability, not a lack of overall strength.
Just like not using ACoC is a lack of IQ from big mom, not a lack of overall strength.
This is a weird and disingenuous trend in powerscaling today, where if Yonkos fall short in a single combat-related category, people automatically defend the overall strength and only critique the yonko for the downfall in that 1 category. Whereas when an admiral falls short in a single category, they are automatically fraudalent overall and are reduced to zoro level.
Absolutely pathetic.
The admirals arent apart of the world government, their spefiically apart of the marines which is under the umbrella of the world government (This was confirmed by the narrator when akainu talked with the gorosei where they distinctively put akainu as apart of the navy and the gorosei apart of the world government). The warlods are too (under the umbrella of the world government) in the same sense, but the outline is distinct between the navy and the warlords which was confirmed by garp where he referred to the navy and warlords as separate entitys. Also,The admirals being the strongest force has been said to be attriubed to their rank not the individual themselves, the warlords wouldnt get the chance to even go for the position since they operate under a completely different system as pirates. They can still remain pirates but at the cost of helping the WG and navy, So using the admirals strongest in the navy argument is a disengenous argument that was regurgitated back in 2018 cant believe its starting to be brought back up. When i was talking about kizaru getting one shot i was referring to his durability aspect of his strength not his actual output. I separated each of his stats if you go thru the video. I agree with your last paragraph though.
Because you’re stronger equal to the captain besides if Marco had conquerors HAKI along with devil fruit awakening he would’ve beaten and taken down king and queen
You can Say that for every character
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_it no vice captains only some who are worthy yes
i feel like wano marco could’ve taken one of them in a 1v1. but the thing about marco is that he was already using a lot of his energy healing people.
Awakened fruit Marco would go incredibly hard and i think something will push him in the final saga to awaken.
@@tannermarkland5214nah what if Marco df don't a awakened cause he had that df for a Long time cause he was fighting roger crew at 20 or 18
Even with that stuff ppl gotta realize Marco never intended to take anyone down in Wano, it was not his war to begin with. He was only there to support & propel the alliance not to take part in a serious battle. The role would’ve been the same regardless if he had those things or not. For all we know it’s possible he could have something unique with the mythical powers but we still haven’t seen a whole lot from him since he’s literally always supporting a bunch of allies.
Akainu≈Mihawk/Aokiji
Kizaru=Zoro .
1st fight, Akainu Vs Mihawk Draw . Both eliminated . Or Akainu Vs Aokiji then 50/49 .
2nd fight , Kizaru Vs Aokiji then Aokiji win Or Kizaru Vs Mihawk then Mihawk .
3rd Ben Backman Vs fujitora Ben win Or Draw .
4th fight Greenbull Vs Zoro Greenbull win .
Win Persentage , Admiral 51 , Vice-Captain 49 .
Zoro is Wekest Now .
I like how you use the road to ponaglyphs volume to prove Mihawks title but then ignore the fact that in the road to ponaglyph volumes it’s also stated shanks to be the freest man currently on the seas something only given to the pirate king💀and by Mihawks own account
Pirate king >world greatest swordsmen
Luffy wants to be the freest man on the seas meaning shanks is one of luffys end goals💀
And again BIG MOM NEGS KING MEANING SHE WOULD NEG KING OF HELL ZORO mere commanders get negged by admirals and yonkous
It’s why zoro is struggling against lucci
The meat riding scaling zoro up to snakeman luffy💀 when he’s no where near that and even if he was kizaru negged snakeman luffy meaning he would body zoro even harder
WSS is solely about strength compared to pirate king which requires a crew, fleet finding ponegliphs which is why it is easier to become a WSS than a pirate king... Pirate king doesn't even require you to be the strongest
Mihawk and Aokiji should be able to high to extreme diff any of the admirals besides the Sakazuki but let's be honest. Neither are VCs. The Beckman statement comparing him to Shanks isn't about his power but his influence so trying to scale him based on that is wrong and Zoro shouldn't even be in this debate. Overall the Admirals are stronger than the Vice Captains. The agenda pushing in the One Piece community never ceases to make me laugh.
I love the idea that Buggy has the strongest first commander
Power scaling is stupid overall. Because in a fight do you know who wins? The one Oda wants to win to advance the plot, and that's it lol. But if we have to powerscale I'd say the admirals are around YC level and the Gorosei around Yonko level since they are the final and highest threat( and we have some feats from Saint Saturn that back this up too)
What? Cross Guild doesnt have a vice captain and BB's vice captain is stated as Shusui.
Watch people run with this dumbass agenda vice captains > admirals, its such a bad take.
😂😂😂
Kizaru>>>all vice
Akainu>Midhawk(High diff)
Aokiji>=Kizaru
Fujitora>Beckman(high-extreme diff)
Greenbull>Zoro(mid diff)
Simple
Fujitora over Beckman 😂. Wtf?
@@WolfFang28 Like he said the admirals are relative
That means Fujitora is equal to Kizaru or almost as strong
And Kizaru humiliated Beckman
@@WolfFang28 featless
@@WolfFang28ur delusional fujitora would destroy that fraud
@@WolfFang28Ben Beckmann is NOT above the admirals. He is yc1 level.
Katekuri is shitting on admirals too let’s be real
Putting Mihawk above Shanks is a crime. Shanks isnt only a swordsmaster and Law doesnt use his sword as much, just to boost his abilities.
Mihawk literally can't be weaker than shanks it would directly kill his character purpose... he can only be equal if not stronger.. also shanks is directly confirmed to be a swordsman ... It's just the assumption of shanks fans that believes he isn't a swordsman while the story has always shown him to use a sword he fights
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru so by extension, Law, Big Mom, Kaido are swordsmen. Whitebeard is also a swordsman which makes Mihawk stronger than Whitebeard because he uses his naginata (refered to as a supreme grade "sword")
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru stronger than Roger because he uses a sword too :)
@@raidenpainn1561How is Kaido a swordsman?
@@adaurysantos Kaido isn't, that's my bad but Law, Big Mom and Whitebeard are swordsmen
Mihawk>Any admiral
Beckmann>any current admiral
Kuzan>any current admiral
Any admiral one shots zoro though
Bro is spitting facts
Mihawk=Yonko level due to WSS
Zoro=Relative to yonko tier due to scarring hybrid Kaido without fully mastered acoc or enma, King should be relative to this tier since he fought a less weakened Zoro even if he was in base
Beckman=Low end yonko level, in the vivre card of film red it’s stated that his haki is too immense for Kizaru
Kuzan:Yonko level, he fought with Akainu for 10 days giving him a immense haki boost and previous to this was able to freeze Wb and one shot Jozu and casually block a high speed kick from Marco (acceleration is power, speed x mass=power)
he also clashed with Ace while Aces perspective of the clash was a flame wall attack while Aokiji just formed a ice defense wall, Kuzan fought with Garp and Garp states holding back is stupid basically implying Garp isn’t holding back, Garp is also using acoc and Kuzan isn’t using adv arm or obs(he has both) and they clash and he doesn’t even use his fruit in the clash
Admirals:
Fujitora:yonko level relative to Ryokugyu via Reverie
Ryokugyu: yonko level, negged queen and king in the manga, literally off screened them and stated it’d be disgraceful if people such as them gave him trouble
Akainu: >Kuzan
Kizaru: Yonko level, damaged WB with a laser and fought with Luffy and made Rayleigh child’s play and held back against Marco
now all the fights
Kuzan vs Akainu(Very extreme diff and would last a long time, whoever’s team comes out on top first will give them the edge)
Ben vs Kizaru(Probably high diff, Ben wins)
Mihawk Vs Fuji(Mihawk absolutely slams, Mid-High diff)
Zoro vs Ryokugyu(Zoro gets mid-high diffed
After Ryokgyu beats Zoro and Mihawk beats Fuji (it’ll be about the same amount of time) they could fight each other, After Mihawk beats Ryo he could help Kuzan
or Ryo could try to help Kizaru but then he would have to fight Ben+Mihawk and get violated, he could try and help Akainu but he would have to fight Mihawk+Kuzan and get destroyed