Why Zoro vs Law and Kid Is Not A Fair Fight

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  • @zagessj
    @zagessj  Рік тому +11

    Make sure to join the discord 🙏: discord.com/invite/HZjvt6vPq4
    Do you think Zoro can beat Kid & Law at the same time?

    • @beepboop4833
      @beepboop4833 Рік тому +2

      What do you think about Sanji?
      Sanji is for sure massively faster than Kid and Law and has the attack power to put them down. Also with his durability he shouldn't take too much damage from Kid's attacks (if Kid can even land anything). Against Law, Sanji could probably 'heal' from his attacks.
      The portrayal is def in Kid and Law's favor though.

    • @Coolgamer..
      @Coolgamer.. Рік тому +2

      I agree Zoro for me is number 2 after Luffy of the worst generation not counting Blackbread.

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow Рік тому +6

      I think Zoro loses to them individually. He doesn’t have the crazy durability of Kaido and a Big Mom, so Kid’s attack can hurt him. And if Kid can tag doll Big Mom with his awakening, Zoro is getting beyond rag dolled
      I don’t even need to explain why Law could violate
      Law and Kid have the speed to keep up with a Bloodlusted Life Force amped Big Mom. Zoro is relative to or slower than King depending on the form. King was relative to Marco, who basically got blitzed and overpowered by Base Big Mom
      Durability wise, Law and Kid’s metal constructs can take attacks from Hybrid Kaido and various forms of Big Mom, including Bloodlusted, Life Force Amped Big Mom. And her attacks were taken when they had injuries from prior.
      None of them are tanking each others attacks, but they have the endurance to keep fighting afterwards
      Law has the speed, AP and hax to put down Zoro if he could damage 3 Yonko with and without his awakening. For Kid it’s harder to say since his showings weren’t as impressive, but he should be able to do massive damage to non durability monsters, and he has the speed, AP, and hax as well. If Big Mom can’t physically overpower his awakening, then Zoro definitely isn’t

    • @luis15317
      @luis15317 Рік тому

      No!

    • @iReaperYo
      @iReaperYo Рік тому

      Yeah he beats both in a 2v1

  • @cuthbut1
    @cuthbut1 Рік тому +7

    Zoro gets decimated vs either let alone both. Both are hard counters. Both kid and law can instantly disarm him..............

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому +2

      W finally someone with a brain, and they also out perform Zoro. Kidd tanked +15 attacks from Big Mom. And their ap? Zoro made a flesh wound on Kaido while Kidd and Law actually broke bones.

  • @Packirup1234
    @Packirup1234 Рік тому +14

    Wowwwww I skipped to the end and first thing I see is using zoro blocking an attack VS kid not blocking an attack as a valid reason why zoro durability is greater
    Comparing a direct hit to a blocked attack really
    U forget luffy died from a direct hit by kaido
    After both kaido and bigmom respectively both individually got amped than the strength they showed on the roof top together
    Plus this take is only if u look at it from a perspective of haki >>>>>×devil fruit cause that just means u will be downplaying bigmom to fit Ur narrative cause she didn't use haki
    Even if you don't agree with my takes
    I don't get how u can actually say zoro would beat kid and law at all I can't even fathom it no matter how much I like zoro

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +9

      It's just fanboyism or for the views i guess cause that take is just false. We all know zoro will attain mihawk level, but he not there yet. But who knows how far law and kidd can go. Kidd have coc, imagine him learning advanced haki types, along with law. But for now law and kidd are obviously stronger than zoro.

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 Рік тому

      @@obmis_arraid21 “law and Kidd are obviously stronger than zoro” keep coping
      People will give good arguments but you will just call them fanboys because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +4

      @@biasedpotato8511 I'm not coping, im stating facts, kidd and law are stonger than current zoro, they have better feats against stonger opponents, their awakening attacks can be deadly for zoro, as they were inflicting severe damages to big mom with just base awakening powers before there ultimate ( puncture shock, and damned punk), and she's way stronger and lore durable than zoro. We saw kidd using is scrap to block sword attacks many times, and law can teleport at any given time and also create shields, they are more versatile than zoro, they have more hacks, better abilities. Haki isn't a hax, anyone can have it at some level. Even though zoro got acoc, it's not as strong as luffy or kaido, law and kidd already fought big mom who's mire experienced than zoro in haki, so zoro haki won't even amaze them. Those are some arguments for you. Again those who seriously thinks zoro is stronger than law or kidd are moslty fanboys. I myself prefer zoro to kidd and law or any side characters, but it doesn't blind me from facts. Im waiting for ur arguments now, all the things i said are verifiable facts from the manga. What are ur arguments ?

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 Рік тому

      @@obmis_arraid21 I don’t care if you think zoro is weaker than law and kid(even if I don’t agree with that). But you can’t just use “fanboy” as an excuse for people having a different opinion than you. One piece scaling has never been set in stone and there is really no way to tell definitively who is stronger.

  • @wildfellow9063
    @wildfellow9063 7 місяців тому +4

    Mind blown, IDK what to say I am just sad. This is extreme level of meat riding. Luffy's rivals losing a 2v1 against his underling. Just sad. People have lost their mind.

  • @WWEFans223
    @WWEFans223 Рік тому +45

    Great video. Question, given that Luffy's first use of AdCoC was deemed crude and clumsy by Kaido, can we assume the same was the case for Zoro or is his use of AdCoC was a bit better considering he put down King? Also, given that Luffy's 'mastered' use of AdCoC (his 2nd use of it) allowed him to split the sky with Kaido, will Zoro's 2nd use be sky splitting calibre? (this assumes he's fighting a yonko calibre person)

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +8

      Yea egghead zoro should be if not close to it being able to split the sky

    • @zagessj
      @zagessj  Рік тому +19

      I think Zoro’s understanding of Haki flow was better than Luffy’s since he had been using it for a much longer time ever since he beat Mr 1 so I wouldn’t say Zoro’s usage of conquerors against King would be crude. As for splitting the sky if Zoro’s comparable to G4 Luffy he should be able to split the sky.

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +5

      Considering Zoro managed to coat his swords and not only his own body shows volumes to me. Someone who can do that already shows a degree of mastery. Also Zoro got conquerors and advanced conquerors at the same night so his Haki potential seems better than that of Luffy

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +7

      ​@@thocka5144 lol y'all starting to push it bruh, zoro is swordsman, ofc haki flow would be familiar to him since he already was making coa flow through his weapon. Luffy doesn't have a weapon, enma was a big reason for zoro haki bloom, as enma is difficult to master. Saying zoro haki potential is larger than luffy is crazy. Luffy mastered the 3 haki types before zoro and at a much higher level since his g4 coa is more powerful than his regular haki. He learned coc coating by himself in just one fight, same with future sight. Zoro don't have future sight yet and luffy have one of the most if not the most powerful coc in the entire series. At 19 he could knock out 50 000 fishmen and hundredsof marines at marineford, zoro can't do such thing yet.

    • @sisekodeyi6604
      @sisekodeyi6604 Рік тому +1

      ​@@obmis_arraid21You are confusing control of Haki and how powerful Haki is. These guys are talking about control when they talk about potential since Coating is what swordsman shine at.
      But when we talk about powerful Haki obviously Luffy has more powerful CoC than Zoro and Zoro has more stronger Armament.

  • @lazyscholar7932
    @lazyscholar7932 Рік тому +54

    Big Mom saw Kaido taking a fatal blow with her observation haki.

    • @MonkeyDEneru
      @MonkeyDEneru Рік тому +15

      Nah stop making assumptions. Besides Kaido didn't try to dodge

    • @pokeballblaze9835
      @pokeballblaze9835 Рік тому +21

      Zoro meat rider bro fatal wound my ass you better be joking the attack probably did not even has conquers coating in it

    • @Kami-ye9lx
      @Kami-ye9lx Рік тому +26

      FATAL?! Zoro didn’t even one shot King. Please get that Bs outta here 💀💀

    • @killme1389
      @killme1389 Рік тому

      Big Mom Couldn’t Move Her Sword Cause Of Kids Awakening + Law Spamming Kroom It’s Over They Are 2 Captains

    • @killme1389
      @killme1389 Рік тому

      Your Crazy Nobody Has A Stronger Will Than Kid And Luffy They Don’t Back Down Kaido Would Have Tanked It He Tanked An Asura

  • @oliviermateso
    @oliviermateso Рік тому +16

    Delusional

  • @obmis_arraid21
    @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +33

    This video is straight up layer upon layers of cap, assumptions and low balling of kidd and law. Won't even argue cause most of the time those who have that kind of take are often blinded by hype and no matter what u say they will always see what's convenient to them.

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому +10

      Couldn't agree more! Overrate zoro's feats and portrayal while greatly undermine the opponent.

    • @Azydos.
      @Azydos. Рік тому +9

      ong its just common sense that kidd and law r stronger, not just by bounties but Oda himself puts kidd, law and luffy in 1 category and every1 else below

    • @drago1616
      @drago1616 Рік тому +5

      kidd solo or law solo are destroying zoro alone let alone 2v1 @@Azydos.

    • @ltsMotion
      @ltsMotion 10 місяців тому

      Even if it is zoro still beats both

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому +2

      @@ltsMotion lmao prime meat riding, kidd and law destroy that bum even individually

  • @mattc4266
    @mattc4266 Рік тому +5

    Puncture willie > asura

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому

      and he's still saying zoro would be both at once

    • @mattc4266
      @mattc4266 Рік тому

      @@Jaafar_Alkhalifa he said they couldn’t

    • @Naldinho456
      @Naldinho456 4 місяці тому

      Asura>>>>

    • @mattc4266
      @mattc4266 4 місяці тому

      @@Naldinho456 than you woke up

    • @Naldinho456
      @Naldinho456 4 місяці тому

      @@mattc4266 I can't let this blasphemous take go unchecked
      Puncture Wille is overrated h3 couldn't even seriously harm big meme while asura cut kaido HIS THE GOAT THE GOAAT

  • @justbandile5625
    @justbandile5625 Рік тому +9

    Zoro is getting one shotted by shock willie..💀what are we talking bout here?

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +2

      Yea and Punk Damned or Puncture Willie are overkill😂😂

    • @RimuruTempest-wl1ru
      @RimuruTempest-wl1ru 3 місяці тому

      Zoro didn't get one shot by thunder hakai what makes you think a stronger Zoro would get oneshot by shock wille infact one koh attack and law would get one shot​@@sloth1384

  • @jaydenclarke6184
    @jaydenclarke6184 Рік тому +21

    If Zoro had better defense, I would give him the win, but Zoro isn't even near big mom levels of defense I don't think he can survive being jumped by kid and law I just don't see it.

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +6

      Zoro loses to both in a solo fight. Loses to Kidd far more easily since this guy is his natural counter. Its like Enel vs Luffy, Sanji vs girls. So Kidd no diffs him and turns him into a pancake, and Zoro is NOT surviving Damned Punk or Puncture Wille so Law can one shot him too but mid diff.

    • @herplederpledoodledoo
      @herplederpledoodledoo Рік тому +1

      @@sloth1384 I mean... Shanks uses a metal sword too, and DF powers specifically don't seem to have ontological inertia(as in, if you cancel/defy the devilfruit some how, all effects stop and revert). SInce Haki can repulse something as abstract as a disease, can it repulse the artificial magnetism? Can it cut a Room? Only tangentially related but Kid's Magnetism kinda works more like telepathy that only affects magnetic objects, that or he can create magnetic fields anchored to thin air, which is wierd in a completely different way. Also it probably wouldn't be easy to jump him considering he reacts to projectile attacks in his sleep. I'd say there are too many variables and unanswered questions to say for sure. Most of them actually brought up by Law himself. But the biggest question is: If Law tries to move Zoro via a Shambles, will Zoro get lost and end up somewhere else entirely?

    • @gsphil414
      @gsphil414 Рік тому +1

      @@herplederpledoodledoothe thing we do know is that kids assign would work on zoro as it worked on bm and made her lose her ability to control her sword

    • @blazespins6875
      @blazespins6875 Рік тому +2

      @@sloth1384 I'm sorry but 1v1 wise I see zoro winning against any of them. Law's attack are mainly sneak attacks and shit and if u see in the fight against big mom you'd notice everytime law got a fatal hit it would be a sneak attack(except for puncture willie) and puncture willie law had to be on top of the opponent, its clear Zoro can dodge the attack as he is much more faster than big mom and can blitz law or kid.

    • @blazespins6875
      @blazespins6875 Рік тому

      @@gsphil414 But the thing is the assign move, Kid had to move and touch big mom for it to work, Zoro would easily dodge the attack as he is fast unlike big mom.

  • @Ken-pn4of
    @Ken-pn4of Рік тому +14

    great points! Kid/Law strongest moves was what they needed to do good damage to Big mom, that’s something zoro/Luffy could do on the rooftop already pre their power up.

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +10

      Luffy never did damage to big mom, even before awakening kaido was saying law powers are bothersome. Big mom is far more durable than zoro, an attack that can make big mom crawl in pain with broken bones can obviously send zoro to like 10 percent hp or even take him out for a while.

    • @justbandile5625
      @justbandile5625 Рік тому +17

      ​@@obmis_arraid21 zoro fans delusional

    • @_jb5261
      @_jb5261 Рік тому +2

      There is a reason why Big Mom is considered a tank. Pre power up Luffy couldn’t even damage BM much less Zoro. Of all the characters, she probably has the most absolute defense which is her body. It took that much from Law and Kidd to damage her and a few broken bones for Big Mom isn’t really all that crazy if you think about it.

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +4

      @@obmis_arraid21 luffy or zoro never attacked bm once on the rooftop and there is a reason for that lol so u saying Luffy didn’t do any damage when he never even attacked bm is a null argument lol and law used his strongest pre awakening attack gamma knife on dragon kaido and it was weaker than zoros dragon blaze kaido said that in context to law teleporting zoro out of the way before he attacked him unless u wanna try to argue that injection shit is some how tiers in strength stronger than gamma knife lol when gamma knife did shallow damage to dragon kaido

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +4

      @@whatthatbout4629 i ain't gonna argue much, the dragon blaze attack wasn't going to do shit to kaido. If u think Zoro's attacks are deadlier than awakened law that's up to you. Before luffy attain the roof top he had a little clash with big mom and didn't do shit. Ofc luffy can hurt big mom, he did hurt kaido. What i said is that law and kidd attacks were strong enough to inflict pain to big mom, she's far more tankier than zoro, so their attacks gonna be deadly for zoro.

  • @orion5565
    @orion5565 6 місяців тому +3

    I don’t think people realize how much stronger Law and Kid got during and after their fight with Big mon, law later goes to stalemate ( for a bit) against black beard (canceling out his gura dv attacks, injured him pretty good, mostly lost due to typing advantage ) who was stronger than reiyleigh who was giving Kizaru a hard time (made him bleed, and had him visibly worried) while Zoro is overall closer to high tier 1st commander tier (Ap definitely higher) in still struggling to beat king, (took 3 Adv. C.C. Attacks to take him down even in speed mode) and his asura ultimately had no affect on Kaido, only ones who did were Luffy and Yamato
    So law alone could already give Zoro a hard times let alone with Kidd for help

  • @kaleb2342
    @kaleb2342 Рік тому +3

    The Zoro glazing is crazy ngl

  • @pattouco
    @pattouco Рік тому +1

    Great video. We need vodeo.of Garp please

    • @zagessj
      @zagessj  Рік тому +1

      It’s in the works

  • @Moonlit_1311
    @Moonlit_1311 2 місяці тому

    B-but but it was Oden's Haki

  • @jkcarter8925
    @jkcarter8925 Рік тому

    Did dis guy just say king is more durable than kaido? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @snowinouterspace1883
    @snowinouterspace1883 Рік тому +1

    Aight first two minutes in I smell CAAAP😂

  • @creamsoda1
    @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

    advanced conquerors haki this, advanced conquerors haki that. Kidd has better feats during the battle against Big Mom and his devil fruit 100-0 counters Zoro without leaving any openings. Its a no brainer, Kidd no diffs. Law has shown better feats and he is more capable in a battle even if his fruit is more suited in supporting, he can just support himself with it. Both Law and Kidd beat Zoro in an 1v1 and it is not fait. Mid diff for Law at most.

  • @Tarnished5Leaf
    @Tarnished5Leaf Рік тому

    Bro I’ve been saying this EXACT Argument for Zoro ever since RoofPiece Ended 👺🤝🏾🗿

  • @Naldinho456
    @Naldinho456 4 місяці тому

    Wid>fraw(leaning toward kid)

  • @joeygamingnl2724
    @joeygamingnl2724 Рік тому +4

    Better haki doesn’t always mean u win a fight law and Kidd both smack anyone in Luffy’s crew except Luffy himself and it’s not really an argument unless Zoro gets a powerup, after getting better stamina and considering they wouldn’t have the Hawkins bs or prior injuries law and Kidd could likely individually beat big mom and even if this weren’t true the difference between big mom and king is insane as we’ve seen big mom one shot queen who’s relative to king that same big mom after actually going all out and using her giant form didn’t even scratch Kidd with a named attack, if big mom at for example (and exaggerated) 80% power can one shot queen but at 100% can’t even deal fatal damage to a fatigued and injured Kidd what makes u think that that Kidd would lose to the Zoro who barely won against King while King was also holding back during even the last part of their fight?

    • @scuffedpixel
      @scuffedpixel Рік тому +1

      king was holding back?!? huh? pass me whatever you are smoking breh it must be some unworldly stack

    • @beepboop4833
      @beepboop4833 Рік тому

      They would not beat her individually lmao. They extreme diffed pushing her down a hole and still needed bombs to finish her off.
      How was King holding back in the last part of the fight? 😂

    • @blazespins6875
      @blazespins6875 Рік тому +2

      I am not trying to sound like a zoro fan boy but King was NOT holding back at all as there was no reason to and it was clear he wanted to defeat Zoro. Now you are really overstimating kid and law. Yes they have the AP to damage big mom but you have to see again that Law had sneak attacked her multiple times instead of getting a clear hit and the only time he could attack her was when she was down on the floor and hitting her with puncture willie. Not only that, they weren't even able to take her out, a whole nuke did. That shows how despite all their efforts they weren't even able to knock her out yet something else did. So what if Big Mom one shot Queen? She wouldn't even be able to one shot flames on king. Flames on King being much more durable than Hybrid Kaido and Kaido is clearly more durable than big mom and big mom. And saying she can't deal damage and all this but if you really see the fight again, when has big mom used her actual strongest arsenal conquerors coating? She could've took them down much more easily and has she started to paid more attention to the fight it would've been a high diff win for her. Cause multiple times she thought she won and that gave Kid and Law the chance. The kid and law fight wass more plot armor than most of the fights in roof top as there was no way Big mom was heavily nerfed like that just for the plot.

  • @gerardocovarrubias3058
    @gerardocovarrubias3058 Рік тому +3

    its the same of luffy vs kid and law also im sure when sabo comes back he will be more stronger than zoro and sanji just wait and see

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +2

      Sorry but Sabo ain’t doing shit to Zoro and he can’t even damage Sanji. At least not with his feats

    • @gerardocovarrubias3058
      @gerardocovarrubias3058 Рік тому

      @@thocka5144 oh really okay well when he comes back don't say I didn't warn you pal

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому

      @@gerardocovarrubias3058 Sure, I will come here and even say sorry. Now the reason why this won’t happen is because Sabo is narrative wise not meant to be one of the strongest anyways. He also had normal observation and normal armament and not Ryou like Luffy. His flames are easily avoidable as well so Sabo really isn’t strong, with his feats now Sanji would mid diff him. I can be wrong and Sabo can have a crazy awaking but until then I have 0 reasons to believe you

    • @gerardocovarrubias3058
      @gerardocovarrubias3058 Рік тому

      @@thocka5144 buddy I hope you're wrong

    • @musalefatle6454
      @musalefatle6454 Рік тому

      I'm betting on sabo having acoc
      I just feel like no way dragon is right hand man doesn't have acoc also his know as the flame emperor

  • @notamerican3964
    @notamerican3964 Рік тому +1

    I don't think they beat a rooftop Zoro...

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому

      They're not even beating pre-time skip zoro, he's too much for them.

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      ​@@Jaafar_Alkhalifazip up Zoros pants when ur done

    • @brothsipper-h5o
      @brothsipper-h5o Рік тому

      ​@@Jaafar_AlkhalifaKidd got one shot by Shanks while Zoro gave a good fight against pocket knife Mihawk so East Blue Zoro is stronger.

    • @Fnafmaster1359
      @Fnafmaster1359 7 місяців тому

      @@brothsipper-h5othat wasn’t a good fight mihawk landslided zoro and wasn’t even trying

  • @CRY10
    @CRY10 10 місяців тому

    100% accurate. Zoro wins extreme-insane diff

    • @hajileknochi7086
      @hajileknochi7086 10 місяців тому

      In Ur Dreams

    • @hajileknochi7086
      @hajileknochi7086 10 місяців тому

      Law alone Beats zoro

    • @hajileknochi7086
      @hajileknochi7086 10 місяців тому

      Kid and law beat big mom high diff and zoro only cut kaido law also broke kaidos bones and when zoro cut kaido kaido made it clear that he wasn’t trying since he thought zoro couldn’t do enough damage

    • @CRY10
      @CRY10 10 місяців тому

      @@hajileknochi7086 law didn't do shit against Kaido and he was useless most of the fight when fighting Kaido. Half dead Zoro was doing much better than Law. 😂
      Big Mom vs Law and Kidd was a high-extreme win.
      After the KOH BUFF Law cannot do a shit against Zoro. It will be a low-diff fight for Zoro.
      King who was way better in physical stats than the law was 1 shotted by Zoro.
      Law cannot even win against Sanji what are you talking about? 😂🤣
      Go watch that fight again how useless he was 😂

  • @rev3rend353
    @rev3rend353 Рік тому

    Let’s be clear Luffy used AWAKENING to beat Kaido. G4 plus Acoc didn’t do shit and wasn’t going to win. Narratively awakening was the key for Wano. Even bajarang gun is debatable for using Acoc but awakening was shown for the 3 captains which don’t compare to Zoro narratively. Once again all 3 captains awakened their abilities and beat yonko. King turned off his flames n got beat whereas BM giant form> King with flames on durability wise and kid sent her packing with two shots yet he can fire 9 I’m out💀

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 Рік тому

      90% of this comment is just incorrect

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      @@biasedpotato8511 Kidd no diffs Zoro and outperforms and counters him. Magnetism vs swords? no brainer. Kidd broke Big Moms arm, that attack would kill Zoro or disable him.

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 9 місяців тому

      @@creamsoda1 Bor what are you even talking about?💀
      I made this comment 5 months ago and I never even mentioned who I thought would win. He just got basically everything wrong in his comment.

  • @davidjones-ez6uu
    @davidjones-ez6uu Рік тому

    Law > Zoro > Kidd
    I think zoro can defeat law simply because of his haki is stronger and Kidd only relies on his devil fruit and even though he has conquerors haki he doesn’t know how to utilize it so zoro wins high diff. With Laws hax I just don’t see zoro winning. It will be a close fight but I believe law will come out on top with extreme high diff

  • @nb-jd9fb
    @nb-jd9fb Рік тому +11

    law and kid low diff zoro

    • @nbadai2762
      @nbadai2762 Рік тому +8

      ??? I’m pretty sure it’s the other way around 💀

    • @donrog5035
      @donrog5035 Рік тому +3

      In two piece 😂

    • @zagessj
      @zagessj  Рік тому +1

      Nah

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому

      Law and Kid would no diff zoro if they started with their awakening.
      Zoro being strong enough to beat those 2 at the same time, would ruin the story. It makes 0 sense on so many levels.

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      ​@@zagessjdefinitely do😂

  • @nottawa86
    @nottawa86 9 місяців тому

    im not even gonna watch this bc based off the comments, this video is complete bs

  • @zhuff56
    @zhuff56 Місяць тому

    Zoro fanboys foghting for their lives since he couldnt gwt passed lucci at egghead 😂🤡🤡

  • @MonkeyDEneru
    @MonkeyDEneru Рік тому +3

    Common zage, sure king was scared but zoro only did damage when his flames were off.

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +1

      Yea people mentions only what gives credit to their opinions or takes.

  • @lute6904
    @lute6904 Рік тому +5

    It would be a close fight but I’m betting on law and Kidd. If zoro fought Kidd 1v1 then fought law 1v1 immediately after then zoro wins, but the 2v1 scenario makes a huge difference. Neither law nor Kidd were even close to big moms full strength but they still took her down, zoro is not as strong as big mom so I’d argue that Kidd and Law could win a 2v1 against him using proper tactics and teamwork.

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому

      BM was defeated by the explosion and not by by Law and Kid. Also if Zoro with advanced conquerors fights BM without advanced conquerors then Zoro wins that no debate. His speed and attack power would be just way ahead

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +1

      ​@@thocka5144 lol what speed ? Zoro isn't as fast as luffy, flames off king, kaido or sanji ,lol. Zoro with coc still can't do shit to big mom, i think big mom won't even need to go her berserk form, law and kidd could attack her cause they were coordinating. Kidd distract her with a xeak attacks while law takes profit from the opening to launch a massive attack, and while big mom is taking that kidd also lauch his massive attack, the entire fight was just that. Zoro alone won't find no openings, he would do better than brook but that's all. He ain't beating or disabling big mom, she migjt took a scar but even then zoro after ashura couldn't stand again and big mom is relative to kaido in durability, so it won't make her fall, zoro would just exhaust himself. Read the fights correctly before making such assumptions.

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +1

      @@obmis_arraid21 🤡🤡

    • @robinn384
      @robinn384 Рік тому

      @@obmis_arraid21 it’s not even close

    • @robinn384
      @robinn384 Рік тому +3

      @@thocka5144 big mom is putting zoro on his neck tbh she oytscales him in everything and hee homies are keeping zoro busy that’s why it took more then 1 perosn to be beat hee her whole thing is jumping ppl and area attacks

  • @lilsupaSSR
    @lilsupaSSR Рік тому +8

    Tbh Zoro might be able to beat both of them lol

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +5

      Yea I don’t wanna think this for Kidd and law sakes but if egghead zoro shows top tier feats and that his acoc bloomed to that level than it might be ggs lol

    • @vistaxx
      @vistaxx Рік тому +4

      @@whatthatbout4629 ​ na Law and Kidd are many times stronger zoro had high-Extreme diff fight against an yc1 while law and Kidd had against an Yonko and big mom can defeat King and Queen Both at once while Zoro is just Little Bit stronger then King Zoro is far away from defeating 2 yonko commander by himself

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +1

      @@vistaxx bro did u even watch the video? This argument is just wrong like ur just wrong… zoro after unlocking acoc beat king in 2 named attacks bro that’s not and extreme diff bud and in the video he literally established that the rooftop zoro that was losing to king is already stronger than pre awakening kidd and law.. big mom had the same reaction to rooftop zoros dragon blaze to kidds and laws combined awakening attacks…like ur not using any powerscaling logic ur using classic one piece fandom logic “Kidd and law “beat” bm while zoro fought a “yc1” that is dumb logic without using any context and feats

    • @lilsupaSSR
      @lilsupaSSR Рік тому

      @@zagessj facts he deadass could 😂😂😂😂🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @ocbmega1011
      @ocbmega1011 Рік тому +1

      ​@@whatthatbout4629 the 2 attack wank is so braindead hes litterally using swords its not like hes gonna hit him 20 times hes hitting him with a fatal weapon

  • @suzukisatoru4701
    @suzukisatoru4701 Рік тому

    Kid and law are both stronger than zoro. They fought in the raid much longer their fight with big mom lasted much longer and they got koed in the process and got back up. Kid is a terrible matchup for zoro because of his magnetism. Although I’m sure that zoro could negate kids fruit with haki there is no way that he would be able to negate assign since even big mom couldn’t do it. I am pretty sure that awakening cannot be negated by haki from what we have seen during g5 luffy vs Kaido and kid and law vs big mom so it’s pretty much gg for zoro. He can’t beat kid. People should just accept that kid and law are portrayed to be a step above zoro

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      Kidd no diffs Zoro. As you too know, Zoros durability is like a 100 times worse than Big Moms so every landed attack turns him into a pancake, and Big Moms haki is stronger than Zoros yet even she wasnt able to counter Kidds magnetism.

    • @suzukisatoru4701
      @suzukisatoru4701 Рік тому

      @@sloth1384 chill lol I believe kid and law defeat zoro but it would be a high diff at best . I think they defeat him ext diff. Oda always give harder matchups to atrongee opponents

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      @@suzukisatoru4701 bro think about it. Magnetism vs swords. Its low diff.

    • @suzukisatoru4701
      @suzukisatoru4701 Рік тому

      @@sloth1384 zoro has haki bro. Kid will eventually catch him lacking with assign and then kill him with damned punk but it won’t be easy

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      @@suzukisatoru4701 what does haki help in this situation tell me

  • @jimohabdulqudus4283
    @jimohabdulqudus4283 11 місяців тому +7

    Law alone is enough...With kid, it's an overkill

  • @zhuff56
    @zhuff56 Рік тому +12

    Kidd claps Zoro. He's Zoro's counter of you say otherwise you're just bias or watching two piece LOL

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +4

      W

    • @gameonln6077
      @gameonln6077 Рік тому

      I mean haki>df (specially if u can use adv coc).....bm wasn't using adv coc

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      @@gameonln6077 nah not true. Haki>DF only when youre on the level of Shanks and Garp and can use all advanced hakis very well.

    • @nathanwelling8948
      @nathanwelling8948 9 місяців тому

      ​@@sloth1384Zoro can cut anything Kidd uses against him. Zoro is more of a counter to Kidd than the other way around.

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 9 місяців тому +1

      @@nathanwelling8948 Kidd counters Zoro 100-0. Its like Luffy vs Enel but easier. If Zoro even tries to swing his swords, Kidd can instantly repel them. Now he could let them go and lose his weapons or he would get flung like a ragdoll along with them. Kidds magnetism was strong enough to restrain Big Mom, Zoro cant do shit. Its a no diff fight.

  • @ocbmega1011
    @ocbmega1011 Рік тому +21

    The zoro wank 😂 hes not yonko level yet

  • @generalyousif3640
    @generalyousif3640 Рік тому +14

    Zoro cant win a 2 vs1
    If you think so, you are funny

  • @axciel5651
    @axciel5651 Рік тому +7

    powerscaling isn't everything in a fight ffs man
    law and kidd outhax to an insane amount, k-room and jiki awakening is insane, and you act as if zoro can constatnly land these attacks. the only reason zoro put kaido in the position to dodge is because law teleported him up
    things like gamma life and shock wille attack the internal organs, and zoro, while having endurance+ap, doesn't have the durability like kaido does
    this is some insane zoro meatriding

  • @hisuiangengar8169
    @hisuiangengar8169 Рік тому +6

    Who do you guys think would win in terms of wanking and glazing, zoro fanboys or Itachi fanboys, NOW THATS something I would love to watch a video on

  • @generalyousif3640
    @generalyousif3640 Рік тому +8

    Zoro is dying in a 2 vs 1

  • @Mr.XLAW0
    @Mr.XLAW0 Рік тому +18

    Zoro fans you need to stop overrating Zoro ,law can beat Zoro mid -high diff
    and kid can beat him high diff

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +5

      😂😂😂🤡🤡

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому +2

      That's considered blasphemy in their cult

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +2

      Kidd no diffs because he counter with magnetism

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +1

      @@sloth1384 Zoro has stronger Haki so he negates the magnetism, he is faster, stronger, has stronger attacks, has more endurance, he counters Kidd‘s steel so no.
      Kidd is a fodder

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      @@thocka5144 he cant negate shit when even Big Mom couldnt do it and her haki is much stronger than Zoros. Zoros attacks are DOGSHIT compared to Kidds. He barely cut Kaido which did NOTHING, Kidd overpowered and broke Big Moms wrist, that attack would one shot ur overrated Zoro. Also Zoro cant use swords when Kidd uses repel or assign

  • @Mobash8352
    @Mobash8352 Рік тому +34

    Zage I’m gonna have to disagree with u on this one man, kid+law basically took down a yonko together, mind u she was definitely nerfed, but there’s no way they’re losing zoro man even with his Coc power buff, I just don’t see it man they’re combo is just wayyy too powerful together💯🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +6

      Pre acoc dragon blaze =kidd and law awakening

    • @zagessj
      @zagessj  Рік тому +18

      If Zoro was outperforming base Kid and Law without Adv Conq, why would they be stronger than him with Adv Conq? Do you really think that their awakening is a bigger power up than Zoro getting Adv Conq?

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +5

      And not to mention that Kidd is literally as base conquers while zoro has reached advanced conquers level… conquers haki only grows stronger as the user themselves get stronger so by default zoros conquers>>>kidds conquers which in turn means zoro is stronger than Kidd it’s really simple 😊

    • @Mobash8352
      @Mobash8352 Рік тому +22

      @@whatthatbout4629 you’re bugging man, Oda is literally showing us how comparable those three are, there’s no way they’re losing to him together, maybe against luffy they’ll lose but definitely not against zoro

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +4

      @@Mobash8352 bro where did I say zoros beats Kidd and law together and where did he show they were comparable???if anything he did the opposite by zoro unlocking conquers infusion while kidd didn’t. I didn’t say zoro beat them both at the same time but yo say they are comparable is just wrong yall op fans gotta let this because “beat” a yonko and zoro fought a “yc1” and because they are “rivals” yo luffy narrative go and actually powerscale zoro is just exponentially stronger than them it is wat it is

  • @_jb5261
    @_jb5261 Рік тому +27

    Narratively, this doesn’t really make sense. IT even seems you’re putting him in the same class as Luffy which is a big no no ( Luffy is way stronger). Law and Kid are seen as comparable to to Luffy. It wouldn’t make sense for Luffy’s subordinate to be stronger than the people who are being setup to be Luffy’s rivals. Zorro’s opponents always show this. He’s always fought the second in commands. If Zorro was so strong, why didn’t he get a Yonko to fight on his own? Why would he fight King? In fact he struggled against King before his Advanced Coq awakening (pure plot) and was even near death of his fight. King pushed Zorro to his limit.
    You mentioned his feats against Kaido, but let’s remember he only gave Kaido a flesh wound. Zorro is not a coq haki master in any regard. He went through most of Wano not even knowing he had it. We all love Zorro because he’s cool and he’s strong but this doing too much. Even Luffy wouldn’t even be able to easily beat Law and Kid. Zorro is very strong but not that strong. If we want to put Zorro in a tier, it would in the same tier as the likes of Sanji, Killer, Kat, King, Queen. The only two subordinates in the entire story who have been comparable to their captains in strength were Rayleigh and Ben Beckman. ( Do note that comparable doesn’t mean equal for anyone making that assumption )
    Guys please stop being reactionary. There is so much context in the story that you’re missing. Atleast read any chapter twice. Pay attention to the story and you’ll see a lot of the stuff you’re saying doesn’t make sense.

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +9

      Ur right, zoro and shanks fans are the wildest when it come to those things

    • @fittzie
      @fittzie Рік тому +4

      Spitting facts

    • @Jay-ke4us
      @Jay-ke4us Рік тому +2

      Comparing luffy with law& kidd 😂😂 Bro onto nothing. Luffy only need one Bajrang guns to defeat this frauds. Go get yourself a realty check

    • @_jb5261
      @_jb5261 Рік тому +3

      @@Jay-ke4us I didn’t say they were my guy. You need to read more. They are being setup to be viewed as Luffy’s rivals or being comparable. The clues are there if you’d just pay attention. There is a reason why they all got the same bounty even though we know Luffy can beat either one and Luffy actually defeated a Yonko opposed to Law and Kidd who got lucky and didn’t even beat Big Mom. Luffy is obviously stronger than both but from what we’ve seen with the WG after Wano and them trying to hide Luffy being the modern day Joy Boy, Law,Kid and Luffy were being set up to seem somewhat equal in strength to hide Luffy’s insane power up. Joy Boy is known through legends as a liberator and if people ever found out he was back, people would have a reason to oppose the WG.
      You need a reality check if you think Law and Kid are frauds. Just because they aren’t as strong as the strongest 0.01% of people in the world (which Luffy is a part of) doesn’t make them weak. Like stop this talk about Frauds and shit and just pay attention to the story. Just because you haven’t seen someone do anything flashy or shown their power yet doesn’t make them a fraud.

    • @Zoro-go1mc
      @Zoro-go1mc Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂Luffy neg diffs Mid and Law side by side panels is not portrayal bozo. Law is a swordsman and he doesn't even have conquerors haki, imagine comparing him to the incoming strongest swordsman in OP💀

  • @JACKAGLAW
    @JACKAGLAW Рік тому +6

    Kid=Law>Zoro

  • @unknownplayer7667
    @unknownplayer7667 Рік тому +5

    Kidd and law beat him

  • @obmis_arraid21
    @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +44

    Since the coc coating reveal, people just assume if u have coc then you're automatically stronger than those who don't have it. That'd work on linear power system, not in one piece system,those who don't have acoc can train their obs and armament to a descent level and if u add a busted df, anyone can compete with a coc coating user. Big Mom had it, an got beaten by law and kidd. Yamato used it against greenbull, he just brushed it off. We already know luffy is a haki beast that's why when he discovered acoc it was so deadly as luffy's coc is one of the if not the strongest in the entire series.

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 Рік тому +16

      To be fair, she didn’t even use conquerors against kid and law.

    • @TheOrginalWockySlush
      @TheOrginalWockySlush Рік тому +6

      @@biasedpotato8511 Yes she did. Its both implied and stated that shes using everything at her disposal. Zoros arms arent black against Kaido or King. Does that mean zoro didnt use haki? No

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 Рік тому +3

      @@TheOrginalWockySlush she might have used it to protect herself but she never attacked with it. Both other times she used it, we could clearly see the conquerors haki. Even when law was on top of her about to attack, she still only used base armament to punch law.

    • @TheOrginalWockySlush
      @TheOrginalWockySlush Рік тому +6

      @@biasedpotato8511 Its literally stated otherwise, and she used acoc before she used a year of her lifespan to amp herself.
      Zoro didnt have black arms against kaido or king. Doesnt mean he didnt use armament against either of them.

    • @biasedpotato8511
      @biasedpotato8511 Рік тому +3

      @@TheOrginalWockySlush we could literally see zoro’s haki in his swords.
      It’s never stated that she used conquerors to attack them. We can see that she doesn’t use it against them. Every other time it was shown when she used it.

  • @AmrAlnamer
    @AmrAlnamer 4 місяці тому +7

    who tf made this matchup zoro cant even beat law on his own life what the actual fuck💀

    • @Queiroz23564
      @Queiroz23564 3 місяці тому +2

      Zoro would blitz and one shot Law in a 1v1, in 1v1 Law is a bum

    • @davidortiz3094
      @davidortiz3094 Місяць тому +2

      Law can't even withstand advanced conquerors. Shown when Kaido dropped his @$$ with a Thunder Bagua. Zoro haki is far superior to Law. So is his offensive power. Law ain't a Lunarian, Big Mom nor a Oni like Kaido. Taking on Zoro's King Of Hell techniques directly will cut right through him & his sword. Ya forgetting Zoro is destined to surpass Shanks & Mihawk. Both who are Swordsmen. Zoro already has advanced armament & now advanced conquerors.

  • @Handsomeguy-kj2jg
    @Handsomeguy-kj2jg Рік тому +6

    Kid and laws awakenings are individually equal or greater than zoros conquerer attacks. If he 1v1 either of them it would be high-extreme diff. 1v2 he has no chances of winning

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +3

      In 1v1 Kidd low diffs

    • @blazespins6875
      @blazespins6875 Рік тому

      @@sloth1384 Kid low diffs?? u must be joking 🤣

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +2

      @@blazespins6875 no im not joking, Kidd hard counters and on top of that is already stronger. Zoro cant even touch him since kidd can use assign and Zoro is stunned. And also Kidd can repel all of Zoros attacks so hes basically invincible against Zoro. Haki isnt an issue since even Big Mom couldnt resist Kidds magnetism.

    • @blazespins6875
      @blazespins6875 Рік тому

      @@sloth1384 If you see the fight again, Kid had to run up to big mom and hit her with that move. And Kid is not even faster than Zoro and its clearly why Kid was able to use Assign on her as big mom has one of the worst speed feats in the series and honestly anyone can get a hit on her. So it was obvious why he was able to use assign, but you think Zoro is gonna stand there and have Kid use assign on him? Zoro can easily dodge it and also how can he repel all of Zoro's attack? I can see Zoro's attacks cutting through any of Kid's attack. I keep saying this, stop overrating Kid and Law just because they defeated the dumbest Yonko who still kept underestimating them.

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      @@blazespins6875 at first when he used assign, he didnt have to. You can use assign in more than just one way. Kidd is fast enough to keep up or react to Zoro for sure. Now youre saying if i think Zoro will just stand there and let Kidd use assign. No, but he doesnt have many choices to make, he cant even attack Kidd since he can just spam repel. And its hilarious how you said he can dodge assign. Its not dodge able and not aimable, it just happens, its a magnetic force and it cant be dodged. Youre the biased one overrating Zoro. Kidd is stronger already and add the worst counter on top of that, its over kill. Kidd vs Zoro is like Luffy vs Enel. Zoro cant do anything, Kidd pulls his swords which would affect his swordplay and make his attacks useless, or he could use repel to negate any attack and send Zoro flying constantly.

  • @bigmighty7900
    @bigmighty7900 Рік тому +13

    Law>Kid>Zoro it's really that simple

  • @pokeballblaze9835
    @pokeballblaze9835 Рік тому +8

    By far the best video on this exact debate i have seen you earned my like and sub but i am still iffy on it especially since you forgot to mention that although theoretically Zoro's haki could nullify it how would you tell me that Kidd could not just pull away Zoro and Law's swords if they fought when the both of them especially Zoro rely on their swords to fight especially since punk crash was able to affect big mom's sword although it did not seem like she ran haki through it at the time and oda was nerfing big mom by not letting her use ACOC during the fight

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +2

      The gap beetween zoro and kidd or law haki isn't big enough to prevent them from using some of their capacities, Zoro's haki is not that strong yet.

    • @musalefatle6454
      @musalefatle6454 Рік тому +2

      @@obmis_arraid21 bro Zoro has one of the strongest haki in the series
      Kidd is not pulling Zoro's sword when he uses acoc

    • @tensei7487
      @tensei7487 Рік тому +4

      @@musalefatle6454yes tf he is if his df worked on big mom the same one who nullified laws shambles it’s working on zoro

    • @musalefatle6454
      @musalefatle6454 Рік тому

      @@tensei7487 did big mom use acoc??
      We've seen with the law vs black beard fight that stronger haki nullifies strong devil fruit and zoros haki is way way stronger than Kidd's one

    • @tensei7487
      @tensei7487 Рік тому

      @@musalefatle6454 She used her haki subconciously to nullify laws shambles but her haki had no effect on kidds awakening so i have no reason to believe zoro can nullify its effects. Kidds haki really isnt that weak his armament was strong enough for him to tank hits from big mom even with hawkins attacking him through his hax.

  • @luis15317
    @luis15317 Рік тому +73

    Zoro has absolutely no chance against both at the same time. Even Luffy would struggle and he is on another level than Zoro. The Zorotards overwanking him is so pathetic its not funny anymore and I say this although I love Zoro.

    • @luis15317
      @luis15317 Рік тому +22

      @Jay WBell i am the biggest Luffy stan and he is now emperor level but he would struggle stop underestimating everyone that is not a strawhat you famboys !🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ both got praised by Kaido and Big Mom. Shanks gave his props to Kid before defeating him. Law is holding his own against Blackbeard. So gtfoh they're not worth 3 billions for nothing Luffy would still struggle against them in a 2v1 and the likes of Zoro would get annihilated.

    • @newt2120
      @newt2120 Рік тому +4

      yup, Luffy against the would would be a tough fight. dont know who wins though

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому +15

      Exactly!! It's really ridiculous how they wank zoro and downplay anyone else just to fit their agenda.
      It's just annoying.

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +5

      Do u have any logic to that statement or are u just in ur feelings because u already have a pre conceived notion about how strong these characters should be😢

    • @Tarnished5Leaf
      @Tarnished5Leaf Рік тому +1

      Zoro and Luffys are on the same level bro. Luffy couldn’t solo Kaido , Zoro awakened and borderlined mid diffed a dude who has higher endurance than Kaido.

  • @TrueReverse74
    @TrueReverse74 Рік тому +7

    It's one thing to believe that he beats Kid or Law individually, he doesn't but that's one thing, BEATING THEM AT THE SAME TIME!? that's prime meat riding right there. Yet another person overrating zoro just because he has advanced conquerors, which is entry level at best.

  • @odin....
    @odin.... 4 місяці тому +1

    There's no way in hell he's fighting both at the same time and winning. Law and kid slam mid-high diff

  • @sincolateforever9454
    @sincolateforever9454 Рік тому +6

    He is stronger individually than any of those two but he ain't winning that 1v2, u crazy

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +1

      He definitely is winning. BM wasn’t even defeated by them, it was the explosion + she didn’t use advanced conquerors coating at that. Zoro is faster than BM and with conquerors coating he has stronger attacks as well. Zoro only needs to concentrate on Kid and finish him off with one serious attack and then law is next.

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      @@thocka5144 cry about it they broke her bones, both of them did actually with single attacks that werent even their trump cards. zoro used his trump card to a relative opponent and only made a flesh wound lmao. thats nothing in comparison. kidd wont be one shotted cuz big mom didnt beat him even with +15 attacks.

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 9 місяців тому

      @@creamsoda1 15 attacks with no acoc Haki lol, Oda had to nerf BM against Kid while Oda nerfed Zoro physically against Kaido. Cry harder

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      @@thocka5144 without acoc haki? so what? it was with her df which is way stronger than zoros bum ass haki lmao. oda didnt nerf big mom, how is it a nerf when her df is stronger than her haki anyway

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      @@thocka5144 and zoro didnt get nerfed ur just dumb, he was almost dead cuz he got his ass beaten

  • @Sm0k6poke
    @Sm0k6poke Рік тому +2

    kid can j take bros sword

  • @censari544
    @censari544 Рік тому +1

    Zoro is stronger than Kidd though. Kidd did nothing the whole arc. Law would never be weaker than Zoro. Pure wank.

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      Kidd did nothing you say? tanked +15 attacks from Big Mom, dealt the final blow, overpowered her in several power struggle clashes and broke her forearm.

  • @Thefunkymunky619
    @Thefunkymunky619 Рік тому +1

    Let’s just take into consideration…power scaling is kinda bull, it just takes the right stats or even the right DF to deal with powerful enemies, like realistically law an kid shouldn’t of been able to defeat big mom. BUT it’s the strategy they did that managed to beat her, an with luffy an enel ofc luffy didn’t scale above enel everyone knew that, he’d even be scaled above everyone in punk-hazard, also in this case zoro has enough speed an if he hits kid an or law with ONE attack their dead… or atleast knocked out. Maybe not kid… kid tanky fr fr, BUT IM ALSO not saying it would eb a no diff law and kid is a good dang team they would hit zoro with most of their attacks but I’ll say, zoro is the same level of not more Tankier then kid

    • @Thefunkymunky619
      @Thefunkymunky619 Рік тому

      @zage Sorry for the paragraph 🏃‍♀️💨💨💨💨 but yes I agree with u

  • @bigmighty7900
    @bigmighty7900 Рік тому +15

    Just cuz Zoro got Conqueror's Haki don't mean he slams someone who doesn't Law & Kid have way better feats against way stronger opponents than Zoro wit they devil fruit awakening powers Haki is not the end all be all

    • @daivonbailey7495
      @daivonbailey7495 Рік тому +9

      Bruh big mom was literally yelling in fear at kaido for a pre advanced conquers Zoro attack which he said in the video isn’t even one of zoros top 5 strongest attacks 😂😂😂 nowhere did kidd and law before they used awakening had that kinda portrayal… so pre advanced conquers haki zoro is literally comparable to awakening kidd and law 🤣 zoro getting advanced conquers made him get multiple times stronger as we see he was able to beat king in 2 named attacks after previously doing 0 damage to him

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому

      BM was scared of Zoro‘s named attack which wasn’t even his strongest and he had no conquerors coating at that time. Now every single basic slash of Zoro would be absolutely destructive for BM considering how strong Luffy became while Zoro had already stronger attacks than Luffy.

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +11

      ​@@thocka5144 Big mom said it's not a ordinary sword, she wasn't screaming in pain, stop changing event for the sake of argument lol. Kaido took zoro ashura without even flinching, that attack wasn't going to do shit. Stop the cap and read the manga.

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +1

      @@obmis_arraid21 🤓💀👌🤡

    • @ihateithere9298
      @ihateithere9298 Рік тому +1

      @@obmis_arraid21 you should read the manga. She did scream for him to dodge the attack, so the narrative you're painting isn't correct here.

  • @jlee9350
    @jlee9350 4 місяці тому

    Nah, after Wano and face to face with the yonkos, it was clear how Zoro upgraded and also his big potential for more power ups. If Zoro is put on 1 on 1 with either Kid and Law, it might take time and effort because of their dfs but I can see still Zoro winning the fight mainly because of his endurance and powerful attacks.

  • @alifputrawan9565
    @alifputrawan9565 Рік тому +11

    Sorry Zage I have to disagree this time. Although I agree Zoro can beat Kid and Law individually.

    • @uglykgb
      @uglykgb Рік тому +2

      with that weak ass haki i doubt it

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому

      Loses to both individually, can make logical explanations if you want

  • @godlessoutsider2283
    @godlessoutsider2283 6 місяців тому

    law&kid low diff. But theres no doubt Zoro's plot armor is greater than both combined. & no doubt Zoro is the MVP of the Rooftop Battle...

  • @Dmanime23
    @Dmanime23 Рік тому +9

    Saying zoro can beat law and kidd is like saying he ready fir mihawk now. Just base off bounty law kidd and luffy are closer to mihawk than zoro after wano he does have the masterswordsman title

    • @Jay-ke4us
      @Jay-ke4us Рік тому +3

      Law & kidd are not closer to mihawk not even close 😂. Shanks need one attak to blow kidd to the watery grave

    • @Relax_Rombey
      @Relax_Rombey Рік тому +1

      bounty scaling💀

    • @Dmanime23
      @Dmanime23 Рік тому +1

      @@Relax_Rombey now now don't let the bounty comment fool you let's just go by wano opponent Big mom is greater than King I'm sorry Kidd and Law lost to Blackbeard and Shanks even after wano look who they were fighting still YONKO Zoro agenda must stop he going to get their but he is not their now

    • @Frost-yq8kg
      @Frost-yq8kg Рік тому

      @@Relax_Rombey Fr L Bozo thinks law and Kidd actually equal with luffy

    • @Relax_Rombey
      @Relax_Rombey Рік тому

      @@Frost-yq8kg fr

  • @funnymemeguy8295
    @funnymemeguy8295 Рік тому +2

    zoro gets ready to fight law and sanji disappears

  • @joker2929
    @joker2929 Рік тому +18

    The level of overestimation of Zoro is crazy, Law one shots the Zoro with his devil fruit same goes for the Kidd he can turn the Zoro into pancake You can say that Law and Kid are not very effective against Kaido and Big Mom until they awaken devil fruits but this is because of their superior haki and that doesn't mean they can't beat Zoro, Big Mom and Kaido have almost invincible body but not Zoro, They have very strong haki and have been using it for years but Zoro not They have strong devil fruits but Zoro not and you are saying 2 against 1 but still Zoro wins like Wtf you are basically turned Zoro into Kaido and sayed not even close. I used to be a Zoro fan but I dropped because of this fanbase.

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +8

      Lol see how everyone u said was based on feelings u even said kidd and law have superior haki to zoro which is actually disgusting lmaooo 💀 y’all always get in y’all feelings because y’all think zoro isn’t as strong as he actually is lol I would debunk u but it’s not worth it

    • @joker2929
      @joker2929 Рік тому +10

      @@whatthatbout4629 Im not sayın Zoro weak, You Zorotard thinking Zoro is Kaido lvl just beacuse he unlock the conquerors haki Bruh yeah dont even try

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +8

      @@joker2929 that’s literally how conquers haki worth bro conquers haki is only as strong as the user is themselves meaning when another character has stronger conquers haki than another character with conquers haki the one with the stronger conquers is the stronger fighter it’s literally that simple y’all don’t understand how conquers haki works zoros conquers>>>>kidds that’s simple

    • @joker2929
      @joker2929 Рік тому +2

      @@whatthatbout4629 For me yeah Zoro is stronger than Kidd in general, Yes conquerors haki is important in the fight but it is not enough alone in the fight, for example Big Mom has conquerors haki and strong conquerors haki that's why Law's devil fruit did not much have an effect on Big Mom. The same is goes for Kid until they awaken their fruits and I don't see anyone who can stand up after eating tons of metal or after his internal organs are destroyed from the inside, except Kaido and Big Mom because their body almost invincible and maybe Whitebeard, Zoro is stronger than the Kid He can beat the Kid in fight but once Kid awaken Zoro has nothing do to be honest

    • @Jay-ke4us
      @Jay-ke4us Рік тому

      Na just specify you are lawtrad🤡

  • @Hayder609
    @Hayder609 Рік тому

    Law > Zoro > kid!
    Law is second strongest supernova cause his devil fruit is busted!

  • @MichaelDease822
    @MichaelDease822 Рік тому

    Why even make this video bro? Obviously kid and law are winning.

  • @lawrencekatende2131
    @lawrencekatende2131 Рік тому +18

    Law is beating Zoro. He proved to be more of a pain than zoro, kaido and big mom claimed it themselves. And both kaido and big mom were weary of Enma not zoro. Plus it is true that zoro was nerfed, but kaido fought the akazaya nine who wounded him, was literally lifting an island and fought all the worst generation at once

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому +1

      Kaido has mythical Zoan so he heals a lot. Considering characters like Ace can fight 5 days straight means Kaido wasn’t really exhausted. And Zoro was the one welding Enma, if Killer or Law would have taken it, Enma would have killed them and even if not, their attacks wouldn’t be as strong as Zoro‘s. Law can’t do anything to Zoro, he can dodge by teleport but anything else is useless because Zoro is just that much faster. Also with conquerors coating Zoro didn’t even needs Enma to deal damage to Kaido even greater than what Luffy could do before gear 5 so law ain’t even close to Zoro. He is a good support and stronger than anyone who has the same Haki level but Zoro is physically, skill and Haki wise above Law

    • @Tobiasagain
      @Tobiasagain Рік тому

      Scared of just enma? all it does is draw all of zoro’s OWN haki it’s not like it just gives him haki lol

    • @Ken-pn4of
      @Ken-pn4of Рік тому

      Emma is Zoro lol

    • @whatthatbout4629
      @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +3

      When tf did law do anything to kaido y’all just be lying lol

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Ken-pn4of Enma triggered zoro haki bloom, it was because he had to conquer enma that his coc awakened lol. Ofc zoro is the only one at wano that can handle enma, but that doesn't mean enma had nothing to do it.

  • @FlawlessWallace3350
    @FlawlessWallace3350 Рік тому +5

    Man it’s kinda of weird of big mom said there was something weird about the sword not the attack

    • @lawrencekatende2131
      @lawrencekatende2131 Рік тому +5

      people keep fotgetting big mom warned kaido about the sword not the attack

    • @metalme2306
      @metalme2306 Рік тому +3

      Zoro is wielding that sword. Enma drains the Haki from the body of the user it don't have any additional power to give zoro. Basically Zoro haki makes Enma stronger.

    • @mowmow4617
      @mowmow4617 Рік тому +2

      ​@lawrencekatende2131 it's literally his haki with the sword. It's not just the sword or anyone would be able wield it, zoro fought the sword more than he did king. Literally showing the sword would probably kill any person who have weaker haki than zoro. She brought the sword up but it was his haki that ignite it. Does that make sense to you?

    • @lawrencekatende2131
      @lawrencekatende2131 Рік тому

      @@metalme2306 Still Zoro nearly got killed in his fight against king cause of enma, same sword oden was wielding since he begun wielding swords.

    • @kirind.dragon1901
      @kirind.dragon1901 Рік тому +2

      ​@@lawrencekatende2131 the thing is Zoro uses that sword. It's his sword. If she's scared of it . It's still makes Zoro impressive

  • @NegronAngel2828
    @NegronAngel2828 Рік тому +13

    Law>Kidd>zoro

  • @Yaboiglid.
    @Yaboiglid. 8 місяців тому

    2v1 Zoro gets Mid diffed 1 on 1 his extreme diffs

  • @Dragonbreathereditz
    @Dragonbreathereditz 8 місяців тому

    Fax brother zoro scales higher than big mom

  • @Guyalmogisgay
    @Guyalmogisgay Місяць тому

    Zoro cant take both, but he low diffs kidd

  • @c4ghts1
    @c4ghts1 Рік тому +9

    People underestimate LAW so damn much , he's so OP

  • @melejitt
    @melejitt Рік тому +1

    i wouldn't say he can beat them both at them same time, but zoro is indeed the strongest of the three. and the gap is not narrow at all.

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +5

      The weakest one and by far*😂 he barely beat King whos a mere commander while these two beat a Yonko. King is NOTHING in comparison.

  • @DiegoA-vc2ey
    @DiegoA-vc2ey 5 місяців тому

    Zoro>Law>Kidd but Zoro

  • @Bruh89847
    @Bruh89847 Рік тому +1

    Im a bit confused, is bb a supernova or a worst generation member? or is he both?

  • @visivoakavalerie
    @visivoakavalerie Рік тому

    o like how you use the hunterxhunter soudntrack to explain this video, actually this soundtrack normally standups when someone are explaining something in the anime :D

  • @carrieromberger8640
    @carrieromberger8640 Рік тому

    Law alone can most likely beat zoro. Both Kid and Law are stomping on Zoro together. It’s not a battle with both of them, this dude overrates the straw hats, he prob thinks sanji beats Law

  • @jyNight658
    @jyNight658 Рік тому

    I don't see Zoro beating big mom especially not Law and Kidd. And I read Japanese manga untranslated and as an Asian I proudly say that Zoro isn't as strong as he rate him.

  • @placeholder_384
    @placeholder_384 Рік тому

    2v1 he’s not winning but 1v1 he crushes them

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому +2

      1v1 or not he gets no diffed by both

  • @turnwaiter
    @turnwaiter Рік тому +3

    if you almost die from an attack it can hardly be used as a feat

  • @MichaelDease822
    @MichaelDease822 Рік тому

    Yeah Zorro stands no chance and that’s my main favorite character in the show lol. I haven’t even listened to the video yet 😂

  • @drago1616
    @drago1616 Рік тому

    actually the asura zoro used was his all, and that was coming from zoro himself, he said after asura I will go down, so fresh or not fresh the attack would've been the same, the difference is just zoro continuing the battle

  • @Azydos.
    @Azydos. Рік тому

    Yall should take into account that if you say that Zoro beats law, then that technically means that sanji beats law too cuz zoro and sanji r extremely close equals ( zoro is a bit stronger ). so that means if zoro beats law then sanji can either beat law or assuming sanji loses, law would be significantly scarred that he is as good as dead. think around the box before conclusions

  • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
    @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому +1

    Zoro beats law and kid at once mid diff,
    He could beat Big mom and kaido 1v1.
    But if he faced them together it would be a little tough for him.

    • @Kidtaker
      @Kidtaker Рік тому

      You d eating

    • @Jaafar_Alkhalifa
      @Jaafar_Alkhalifa Рік тому +3

      @@Kidtaker I'm being sarcastic... Zoro's getting folded of course

    • @Kidtaker
      @Kidtaker Рік тому

      @@Jaafar_Alkhalifa Oh

    • @Kidtaker
      @Kidtaker Рік тому

      @@Jaafar_Alkhalifa head?

    • @brothsipper-h5o
      @brothsipper-h5o Рік тому

      ​@SudanimeAMV Bruh you were cooking until I realized you were joking, Zoro is the strongest and unlike you I'm not joking about it cuz it's true. 🤡

  • @mattc4266
    @mattc4266 Рік тому

    Zoro wins extreme diff

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      zoro loses no diff

  • @whatthatbout4629
    @whatthatbout4629 Рік тому +10

    W zoro is so clear of them lol

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +2

      Zoro gets neg diffed

  • @kaustavborah5752
    @kaustavborah5752 Рік тому

    I think not now but by the time the series ends Zoro will surely be stronger than Law and Kidd. ( reason Shanks and Mihawk are equal or one is more stronger but not by a big difference for reference we can take Roger and Whitebeard; If Zoro will become strongest swordsman and I am pretty sure he will ' for that he have to defeat Mihawk and at that time Zoro will be most close to Luffy because Luffy's final enemy will be Shanks. ) that is my theory.

  • @placeholder_384
    @placeholder_384 Рік тому

    Zoro did not use acoc on the rooftop, acoc has lightning

  • @Zoro-go1mc
    @Zoro-go1mc Рік тому +1

    Imagine comparing aCoC monters to these fodders 😂😂😂☠️

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +1

      Zoro is fodder compared to them

    • @Zoro-go1mc
      @Zoro-go1mc Рік тому +1

      @@sloth1384 Glad you agree that Zoro=Luffy>Fishmen Island Zoro = Fishmen Island Luffy > current Kid=Law>>current Sanji=Jinbe

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +1

      @@Zoro-go1mc Luffy>Kidd=Law>Zoro>Sanji=Jinbe

    • @sloth1384
      @sloth1384 Рік тому +1

      @@Zoro-go1mc Kidd and Law fodderize Zoro, especially Kidd with magnetism

    • @Zoro-go1mc
      @Zoro-go1mc Рік тому +2

      @@sloth1384 I knew you would agree that Zoro=Luffy and both oneshot Kid and Law 🤝

  • @lilsupaSSR
    @lilsupaSSR Рік тому +8

    Zoro might be able to beat both of them together lmao Zoro definitely number two and I'ma kid fan & law power is o.d but Zoro at this point yea no question he's stronger

    • @thocka5144
      @thocka5144 Рік тому

      Thank you. A half dead Zoro blitzing hybrid Kaido already shows the outcome.
      At the start of rooftop it was like this:
      Zoro > Luffy > Law > Kid > Killer
      After the awaking of conquerors coating and DF awaking by kid and law.
      Zoro > Luffy >>>>>>> Law > Kid > Killer
      After gear 5
      Luffy > Zoro >>>>>>> Law > Kid > Killer

    • @007jtp
      @007jtp Рік тому

      @@thocka5144 pass me the drugs bro

  • @mohamedabdulfatah3632
    @mohamedabdulfatah3632 Рік тому

    You say Thunder Bagua so statisfying lol

  • @keepitreal4404
    @keepitreal4404 Рік тому

    Zoro can fuck up law and kid at the same time

  • @ThoseCloudyDaze
    @ThoseCloudyDaze Рік тому

    8:12 "King with his Flame on is more durable than Kaido".
    Legitimately which translation is that? I haven't read the official viz translations I admit but even the scans I read at the time never implied he was stronger. As strong or almost as strong.
    I'm probably wrong but can someone confirm that for me?

    • @zagessj
      @zagessj  Рік тому +2

      King says his toughness is more special than dinosaurs and dragons and we can tell by feats. Pre KOH Zoro can damage Kaido but can’t damage King.

    • @ThoseCloudyDaze
      @ThoseCloudyDaze Рік тому

      @@zagessj Ah I see that makes sense. I don't do scaling stuff so I didn't really put that together as a matter of fact. In my interpretation I thought Zoro was reflexively using CoC against Kaido and Zoro had to figure out how to use it on purpose against King. I didn't really think to compare the two in terms of toughness like that.
      Thanks for the clarification. C:

  • @fuzzo2734
    @fuzzo2734 Рік тому

    i know that kidd is potrayed as equal or relative to law but i think kidd is weaker than both. law > zoro > kid for me and im only putting law > zoro bcz his hax are crazy but i dont see how law can get up from a asura or a king of hell attack

    • @obmis_arraid21
      @obmis_arraid21 Рік тому +2

      Kidd df literally counters zoro, he was strong enough to break bones from big mom, and immobilize her by stucking her to napoleon or other metallic objects, unless u think zoro is stronger than big mom, which is obviously not the case, he can't beat kidd yet. Zoro will enter the realm of top tier only when he reach mihawk level, as for know he a " commander level" fighter relative to sanji, marco, king, katakuri in power.

  • @nightfurylover5547
    @nightfurylover5547 Рік тому

    I think it might be similar to Marco v King and Queen

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      Lol 2vs1 or not, Zoro gets stomped.

  • @cotijepotomhajzle4385
    @cotijepotomhajzle4385 Рік тому +3

    Zoro's strongest attack should be capable of doing what Shanks did with his divine departure to Kid BUT Law is no dummy so he would cover Kid and teleport him if needed.
    Kid should be a bane to swordsman if he would just use "Asign" in a way that would make his body and Zoro's swords repel each other.While Law could teleport himself and Kid in and out.
    The only way Zoro would win is if he could quickly one shot of them and make it one on one while his King of Hell "mode" lasts.

    • @herplederpledoodledoo
      @herplederpledoodledoo Рік тому

      Follow up condition: If Haki can repulse something as abstract as a feminization disease, can it cut a room? Can it de-asign Kid's fruit? Most importantly, if Kid tries to Shambles Zoro, will Zoro get lost and end up somewhere else entirely?

    • @cotijepotomhajzle4385
      @cotijepotomhajzle4385 Рік тому

      @@herplederpledoodledoo damn...Law could realy just teleport Zoro down some stairs and thats game over.

    • @creamsoda1
      @creamsoda1 9 місяців тому

      Zoro is nowhere near Shanks in terms of attack potency and Zoro wont be able to do lethal damage to Kidd. Zoro scratched Kaido but Kidd broke Big Moms arm. If something that can break her arm hits Zoro hes either instantly dead or unconscious. Kidd tanked +15 attacks from Big Mom and shes way stronger than Zoro, what makes you think that he could one shot this guy when Big Mom wasnt enough at all?

  • @danielchester1109
    @danielchester1109 Рік тому

    Pls do king vs katakuri or king vs Marco

  • @thatguyoverthere2217
    @thatguyoverthere2217 Рік тому

    Haki is will based not strength based.