Amazing guide - thanks for your work! I've been meaning to rebuild my scuffed lucy after getting m6 but i had no idea how and a lot of other content creators seemed to gloss over the nuances between m0 to m6
Great guide! As a fellow Lucy enjoyer (I play her mostly with Jane), I want to share my discoveries, for swap-cancels I like swapping Jane during a Dodge Counter or Ex and use a Line Drive into quick assist to cancel the recovery time of those moves and get back Jane into the fight, another option is to predict when a parryable enemy attack is coming and do a Fly Ball into parry with Jane.
I think what you've called animation masking is usually just referred to as swap-cancelling (swapping out to cancel the animation commitment)/ Great video!
FINALLY somebody mentions her bangboo buff! Been a Lucy main since day 1. No C6 yet, but I've maxed her skills (Save for the Hamster Cage). She and her lil henchpiggies immediately charmed me when I got her and I've always been way more fond of simpler playstyles. I haven't even pulled for any S-Ranks yet cuz I prefer her over all of em so far. Put together the dumbest playstyle with her. 2-man team with Devilboo to spam its buffed turret state. Great fun for doin' dailies.
@@TheFlygoniq haha thanks!! Team building is so interesting at 3 characters. I just pulled on burnice’s banner (trying to avoid her) and got 2 Lucy’s within 50 pulls! I’m stoked. Juiced my m6 Lucy’s skill and BA up to 15. thanks to for crunching numbers and making this guide.
@@TheFlygoniq I only HAVE 2 units I play, so. I'll be ignoring shiyu for a whiiiiiile. Though I imagine I'll be doing much the same when the time comes.
I appreciate the kind words! To be fair to the professional CCs, it's easy for me to spend over two weeks on a single video about my favorite character when my income doesn't depend on it.
very nice guide. yours cover some of the detail aspect of lucy's ex special not included in imravenous or nakfrag's guide. interestingly all three share the precision and attention to detail in german engineering.
@@TheFlygoniq Lighter is my favorite out of the Sons of Calydon so he's an emotional must. Can the Fire 4 set that gives Crit Rate if you hit burning opponents proc when Burnice is using her skill and Lucy's M6 starts hitting? Also does the Battle Pass W-Engine Crit Rate boost proc when Lucy is off field? Thank you for answering. In all honesty I'm a button masher but I've already hit a wall that I can't brute force through.
@phoenixguy7016 infernal only works when the holder hits a burning enemy. It should work off field. I dont know about game ball, that would require some testing. If button mashing is something you want to improve on, you'll have to consciously slow down and try to have a goal during all phases of the battle
I’m looking at your doc guide and was wondering about disk 6. You say atk% over ER as the main stat. If my skill is already meeting the threshold, should I choose atk% or ER for my m6 Lucy?
Excellent guide! Any idea what her best slot [5] is when she's M6 and you've already maxed out her ATK for the buff? I have her on fire dmg for her EX, chain and M6 procs, but not sure if she'd be better with PEN or ATK?
PEN is very weak without other sources like weeping gemini, so it should only be used if it has way better crit subs. A maxed Lucy with ATK% in 6 will gain about 15% damage from ATK% in 5. This can be diluted by external attack buffs like Caesar. Fire dmg is 23-30% increase (depending on external dmg% buffs like proto punk/swing jazz active time), but her boars' phys damage represent more than half of an off field lucy's damage, so ATK% technically wins out unless the boars are missing a lot of attacks, which can happen. Frankly they're so close that you should just pick the better substats/set.
@@DragomirZlatanov-oo5vi what would you like to see in such a video? I don't think Burnice is that complicated, but that might be good for me since it'll be a short video haha
@TheFlygoniq an intense breakdown. Many people do suggested teams and just slap Caesar and Jane but I find jane lucy burnice really strong. How to do proper energy rotations without a sig and d6 energy regen. What's he r best a rank option. Is she even worth the pull in the end. I gotta say I am impressed by your video great job!
The default keybind should be C. Take a peek in the settings if you want to use a different button. Personally I use R because despite playing ff14 for years, I'd rather put a button i use more often at the top rows.
@@TheFlygoniq Thank so much!!! I had the same issue of not knowing how to walk during the Jane story mission 😤 (i missed out big time). I swear the game doesn't tell us about these hidden mechanics. Imma also follow your lead with keybinding the swap it to "R" , just feels better. 👍
With regards to her design, I think the devs wanted her to be a support, especially before M6. Devs aren't always perfect, and I find that her long, unskippable animations make almost any other option feel AND perform better. However, at M6, Soukaku can and should be played as an on field DPS, who is competitive with M0 Ellen. Long animations are not a problem if you're making good use of the time to do damage, after all. Check out this early shiyu clear video with a level 50 soukaku carry, it's absolutely crazy: ua-cam.com/video/i8hpzLrLfhs/v-deo.html
@@TheFlygoniq i have the video already liked XD but yeah what i meant design wise she is a support who takes a lot of field time and at C6 its more emphasized
It's far better than any other weapon, especially A-rank alternatives, but it really depends on how mad you'd be to get the Vault (which is also a good weapon) and Burnice's w-engine after a 10 pull or two.
@@thaitoan4760Its unfortunate, but it seems like agents only do anomaly damage of their element. Only phys characters can assault, even though everyone can do phys damage.
Amazing guide - thanks for your work! I've been meaning to rebuild my scuffed lucy after getting m6 but i had no idea how and a lot of other content creators seemed to gloss over the nuances between m0 to m6
Great guide! As a fellow Lucy enjoyer (I play her mostly with Jane), I want to share my discoveries, for swap-cancels I like swapping Jane during a Dodge Counter or Ex and use a Line Drive into quick assist to cancel the recovery time of those moves and get back Jane into the fight, another option is to predict when a parryable enemy attack is coming and do a Fly Ball into parry with Jane.
Great times for swap cancels!
I think what you've called animation masking is usually just referred to as swap-cancelling (swapping out to cancel the animation commitment)/ Great video!
"get pigged" LOL that was funny. Nice guide!
this is a great guide, Lucy is my favorite ZZZ character and I'm always up for learning how to use her better. thank you!
whoa
I didn't know her ult snatched up a boar... These calcs are very useful for minmaxing, though. Thank you!
FINALLY somebody mentions her bangboo buff!
Been a Lucy main since day 1. No C6 yet, but I've maxed her skills (Save for the Hamster Cage). She and her lil henchpiggies immediately charmed me when I got her and I've always been way more fond of simpler playstyles. I haven't even pulled for any S-Ranks yet cuz I prefer her over all of em so far.
Put together the dumbest playstyle with her. 2-man team with Devilboo to spam its buffed turret state. Great fun for doin' dailies.
Reminds me of when I cheesed early shiyu with 2 units + rocketboo (I think it was Lucy + S11) lmao
What are your shiyu teams
One side is Qingyi + Nicole + ZY. The other is either Caesar + Lucy + S11/Corin/Neko/Burnice or Lucy + Burnice + Piper
@@TheFlygoniq haha thanks!! Team building is so interesting at 3 characters.
I just pulled on burnice’s banner (trying to avoid her) and got 2 Lucy’s within 50 pulls! I’m stoked. Juiced my m6 Lucy’s skill and BA up to 15. thanks to for crunching numbers and making this guide.
@@TheFlygoniq I only HAVE 2 units I play, so. I'll be ignoring shiyu for a whiiiiiile.
Though I imagine I'll be doing much the same when the time comes.
Fantastic job, thank you for your hard work fellow Lucy appreciator
Excellent content! Keep up dude. Surprised to find you had such low views and subscribers for such high effort video compared to other gacha ccs.
I appreciate the kind words! To be fair to the professional CCs, it's easy for me to spend over two weeks on a single video about my favorite character when my income doesn't depend on it.
Lucy is my favorite too. She's my first and only completely maxed for my level character.
very nice guide. yours cover some of the detail aspect of lucy's ex special not included in imravenous or nakfrag's guide. interestingly all three share the precision and attention to detail in german engineering.
That was dope 👌 thanks so much!
Thank you rly needed this
In fighting games I've heard it, and always called it "swap tech", I believe a handful of people do too
Great vid, im eagerly waiting to get her to m6 as shes still m3
I had no idea what she does. I use her because she is not complicated and can stay out of melee range.
Do you think a DPS M6 Lucy, Burnice, Lighter, Rocketboo team could be viable?
I have 180 pulls saved for Lighter and everyone else ready to go.
@@phoenixguy7016 it sounds fine assuming you dont have caesar. As in, hes probably a sidegrade to caesar in this use case.
@@TheFlygoniq Lighter is my favorite out of the Sons of Calydon so he's an emotional must.
Can the Fire 4 set that gives Crit Rate if you hit burning opponents proc when Burnice is using her skill and Lucy's M6 starts hitting? Also does the Battle Pass W-Engine Crit Rate boost proc when Lucy is off field?
Thank you for answering. In all honesty I'm a button masher but I've already hit a wall that I can't brute force through.
@phoenixguy7016 infernal only works when the holder hits a burning enemy. It should work off field. I dont know about game ball, that would require some testing.
If button mashing is something you want to improve on, you'll have to consciously slow down and try to have a goal during all phases of the battle
Really good vid bro
Great content! Will you be making more guides soon?
W GUIDE, LUCY ENJOYERS RISE UP
I’m looking at your doc guide and was wondering about disk 6. You say atk% over ER as the main stat. If my skill is already meeting the threshold, should I choose atk% or ER for my m6 Lucy?
@@somefishhere for m6, cheer on is very easy to maintain. Almost always atk% at m6 just for more damage
Excellent guide! Any idea what her best slot [5] is when she's M6 and you've already maxed out her ATK for the buff? I have her on fire dmg for her EX, chain and M6 procs, but not sure if she'd be better with PEN or ATK?
PEN is very weak without other sources like weeping gemini, so it should only be used if it has way better crit subs.
A maxed Lucy with ATK% in 6 will gain about 15% damage from ATK% in 5. This can be diluted by external attack buffs like Caesar. Fire dmg is 23-30% increase (depending on external dmg% buffs like proto punk/swing jazz active time), but her boars' phys damage represent more than half of an off field lucy's damage, so ATK% technically wins out unless the boars are missing a lot of attacks, which can happen. Frankly they're so close that you should just pick the better substats/set.
Thanks so much for that! Fire has much better subs for me so I'll stick with that but keep an eye out for a better ATK disk ^^
Wow, didn't even have the F Core Skill enhancement, smh /s
This is a very impressive video! Could you make one for burnice
@@DragomirZlatanov-oo5vi what would you like to see in such a video? I don't think Burnice is that complicated, but that might be good for me since it'll be a short video haha
@TheFlygoniq an intense breakdown. Many people do suggested teams and just slap Caesar and Jane but I find jane lucy burnice really strong. How to do proper energy rotations without a sig and d6 energy regen. What's he r best a rank option. Is she even worth the pull in the end. I gotta say I am impressed by your video great job!
Is animation masking possible if you got ping above 180?
@@user-ot4ly9dp1cAs far as i know, combat in ZZZ is run client side so ping shouldn't be an issue
How do you reverse swap on pc? I see people doing it but I can never find how they do it.
The default keybind should be C. Take a peek in the settings if you want to use a different button. Personally I use R because despite playing ff14 for years, I'd rather put a button i use more often at the top rows.
@@TheFlygoniq Thank so much!!! I had the same issue of not knowing how to walk during the Jane story mission 😤 (i missed out big time). I swear the game doesn't tell us about these hidden mechanics. Imma also follow your lead with keybinding the swap it to "R" , just feels better. 👍
i like lucy over soukaku because of her lower field time
i still dont understand how soukaku is meant to be played is she a DPS or a support?
With regards to her design, I think the devs wanted her to be a support, especially before M6. Devs aren't always perfect, and I find that her long, unskippable animations make almost any other option feel AND perform better. However, at M6, Soukaku can and should be played as an on field DPS, who is competitive with M0 Ellen. Long animations are not a problem if you're making good use of the time to do damage, after all. Check out this early shiyu clear video with a level 50 soukaku carry, it's absolutely crazy: ua-cam.com/video/i8hpzLrLfhs/v-deo.html
@@TheFlygoniq i have the video already liked XD
but yeah what i meant design wise she is a support who takes a lot of field time and at C6 its more emphasized
Very cultured haha
Both tbh
Shoild I roll fkr her W-engjne? I've got plenty of spare polychrome, so 10 lulls doesn't, cost much to me, but i dont know if it's worth it
It's far better than any other weapon, especially A-rank alternatives, but it really depends on how mad you'd be to get the Vault (which is also a good weapon) and Burnice's w-engine after a 10 pull or two.
Jstern thinks it's the best wengine in the game
The piggy not dealling anomally damage is the single dumbest thing in zzz ever. There is literally no reason not to have them do that
@@thaitoan4760Its unfortunate, but it seems like agents only do anomaly damage of their element. Only phys characters can assault, even though everyone can do phys damage.
0/10 guide, my Lucy milk yield did not improve in the slightest, clickbait
@@josephchen1973 oof could be a skill issue xD