The new model 054B was launched on 9/6/2023. 054B is bigger 6000 tons with DC electric propulsion system and new rotating action array radar. You should do a preview of her.
With the Type 054B frigate well under away and with the first ship likely to be launched within this decade. I wonder if it will replace the Type 054A? Or will supplement them with the former Type 054B likey to escort the PLAN carrier battle groups or amphibious ready group, while the Type 054A will deployed closer to Chinese waters eventually replacing the Type 056A corvette which then can be transferred to the Chinese Coast Guard which have received Type 054A as coast guart cutters. Regardless the speculation is it will have a higher top speed then the Type 054A 27 knots due to being fitted with an electric propulsion rumored to be an Integrated-electric propulsion (IEP) system? Like CODLOG or CODLAG like the USN upcoming Constellation-class FFG(X), it will likely include a gas turbine, unlike the previous Type 054A, which is an all diesel propulsion.
One question Most ships seems to be mainly focusing on Anti air, defense systems and anti submarines In the case of two modern warships meeting and engaging, with their little anti ship weaponry and heavy defenses how exactly will the battle go? I wonder because several simulation games such as Harpoon (which I've been told is a very nice naval combat simulation game) when two ships were to fight each other with both on alert all their anti ship missiles were shot down and the ships had only two options to fight eventually, either using deck guns or torpedoes Since submarines proved to be most effective against ships does that mean that ships are no longer focusing on anti surface threat and leaving that for submarines or are there plans to enhance ships' anti surface combat abilities?
If you wan't to play with simulation games i would recommend "Command modern naval operations". As for your question, Ships do not fight 1 vs 1 in any meaningful fashion anymore and The U.S is not using Surface combatants as their primary offensive platform. That role fall on Submarines and Air launched anti ship missiles from Carrier and if possible land based fighters as well as land based bombers. Such an attack could involve hundreds of missiles in each wave, preferably arriving at the same time. The Chinese surface combatants have greater offensive anti ship capability in general but the biggest threat is still from Subs and land based bombers and fighters.
@@tomte47 thanks for the recommendations, and yes like I mentioned in my original comment submarines indeed seem to be playing the role of the offense, missiles however as I mentioned the modern ships has a lot of anti air weaponry, anti missiles and so on, so technically each attack wave will be encountered by a heavy defense wave as well unless the missile can either escape radar detection or move so quick that the weapons don't have time to react once they detect the missile, missile also are quite expensive nowadays, so launching a wave of more missiles than your enemies defense weapons will be costly, this leaves either radar detection, supersonic or hypersonic missiles, and submarines, but there's still a problem. China itself has a lot of submarines, the last time I checked the majority of their naval units were submarines, and considering the wargames with the swedish submarines and that I read about a retired military officer or commander in the navy claiming they couldn't even detect the Chinese submarines unless the crew made a mistake or if they deliberately exposed their position this means aircrafts won't really be of a help against submarines and neither do modern warships that much, I kinda have a feeling countries need to think of a better modern warships design. Some claim aircraft carriers will no longer be useful in the future now that countries are building aircrafts that can fly over continents and ballistic missiles that can hit moving gigantic ships Traditional Aircrafts themselves won't be useful against ships designed with heavy anti air, like you said they move in fleets, and most weapons on those ships are anti air weapons same with traditional anti ship missiles Ships themselves will be useless against submarines including aircraft carriers if they can't detect them And submarines.. those seem like they have conquered the naval battlefield completely... So yes I believe maybe countries should start making better plans to build useful naval vessels to catch up to this change as well.
@@T.M.O001ships are useless against aircraft however this is modern day naval ships not ww2 naval ships. Air defense system had improved drastically now. They are more accurate than ever. In modern day, most aircraft do not close in on ships like in ww2. The reason why Chinese have many aa system because it is their naval doctrine. It is all about area denial. The key point is to limit US access into area and intercept any potential strikes
It was licensed in 1980s when the West and China had a common enemy. The cooperation after 1990s were mainly for civilian use. EU still impose arms embargo on China. And PLA reduced the dependence on imports. For example, Z-15 is a very good platform. But it is impossible for PLA to adopt.
The Z9 only has 4 tons and is not a qualified anti-submarine helicopter. You should feel a headache about the SZ-20, as it is very qualified as an anti-submarine helicopter.
Pinin X shounds like Hs or Hsh (both are used) the closest sound in English to pinyin X is Sh. But if you make H andt then SH that's X all right. ou is alway o ls in owe uo is like wo as in woe Z is like Ds Zh is like J as in Jour as in soup du jour Pinyin Q is like TKTCHH. This sound doesn't exist in English or other European languages.
Considering the size of Japan's submarine fleet and maritime patrol aircraft fleet, I would be surprised if the PLAN is brave enough to test their submarines in Japanese waters.
@@hanovergreen4091 If it helps you sleep at night, but unlike, say the Russian navy china doesn't have an issue with maintenance or money. There has been zero instances of new chinese warships breaking down
@@hughmungus2760 Hahahahhaa...pause...breath...Hahahhahahahahahahh... ARe you honestly trying to say China, the home of the lying, thieving, genocid@l CCP, has press freedom??? Muahahahah... anyone caught even thinking of reporting on something negative about the PLA instantly disappears to the place all the bodies of the missing Tiananmen Protestors are "stored". ROFLAU. Thank You so so much for that belly laugh. You have a good day Mr Comedian Sir! Don't quit you day job at CCP Propaganda HQ though...you are kinda transparent :)
The new model 054B was launched on 9/6/2023. 054B is bigger 6000 tons with DC electric propulsion system and new rotating action array radar. You should do a preview of her.
With the Type 054B frigate well under away and with the first ship likely to be launched within this decade. I wonder if it will replace the Type 054A? Or will supplement them with the former Type 054B likey to escort the PLAN carrier battle groups or amphibious ready group, while the Type 054A will deployed closer to Chinese waters eventually replacing the Type 056A corvette which then can be transferred to the Chinese Coast Guard which have received Type 054A as coast guart cutters.
Regardless the speculation is it will have a higher top speed then the Type 054A 27 knots due to being fitted with an electric propulsion rumored to be an Integrated-electric propulsion (IEP) system? Like CODLOG or CODLAG like the USN upcoming Constellation-class FFG(X), it will likely include a gas turbine, unlike the previous Type 054A, which is an all diesel propulsion.
Beautiful breakdown, very well informed 👍
Not next few years, this year.
4艘已经快完工，如果测试合格。可以做到每年生产10-12艘，尽快完成62艘的基本需求。054A可以淘汰了，落后产品。
Thank you for providing professional level content. UA-cam is filled with to many click-bait fanboy stuff these days.
The fire power of these frigates seem a lot more powerful than destroyers of other nations!
China has to prepare a war with U.S that Americans are actively seeking.
Thank you very intertesting
Wow, it's amazing that you finally realized China has this type of ship right as it ends production of it and transitions to the new 054B. LMAO.
One question
Most ships seems to be mainly focusing on Anti air, defense systems and anti submarines
In the case of two modern warships meeting and engaging, with their little anti ship weaponry and heavy defenses how exactly will the battle go? I wonder because several simulation games such as Harpoon (which I've been told is a very nice naval combat simulation game) when two ships were to fight each other with both on alert all their anti ship missiles were shot down and the ships had only two options to fight eventually, either using deck guns or torpedoes
Since submarines proved to be most effective against ships does that mean that ships are no longer focusing on anti surface threat and leaving that for submarines or are there plans to enhance ships' anti surface combat abilities?
If you wan't to play with simulation games i would recommend "Command modern naval operations".
As for your question, Ships do not fight 1 vs 1 in any meaningful fashion anymore and The U.S is not using Surface combatants as their primary offensive platform. That role fall on Submarines and Air launched anti ship missiles from Carrier and if possible land based fighters as well as land based bombers. Such an attack could involve hundreds of missiles in each wave, preferably arriving at the same time.
The Chinese surface combatants have greater offensive anti ship capability in general but the biggest threat is still from Subs and land based bombers and fighters.
@@tomte47 thanks for the recommendations, and yes like I mentioned in my original comment submarines indeed seem to be playing the role of the offense, missiles however as I mentioned the modern ships has a lot of anti air weaponry, anti missiles and so on, so technically each attack wave will be encountered by a heavy defense wave as well unless the missile can either escape radar detection or move so quick that the weapons don't have time to react once they detect the missile, missile also are quite expensive nowadays, so launching a wave of more missiles than your enemies defense weapons will be costly, this leaves either radar detection, supersonic or hypersonic missiles, and submarines, but there's still a problem.
China itself has a lot of submarines, the last time I checked the majority of their naval units were submarines, and considering the wargames with the swedish submarines and that I read about a retired military officer or commander in the navy claiming they couldn't even detect the Chinese submarines unless the crew made a mistake or if they deliberately exposed their position this means aircrafts won't really be of a help against submarines and neither do modern warships that much, I kinda have a feeling countries need to think of a better modern warships design.
Some claim aircraft carriers will no longer be useful in the future now that countries are building aircrafts that can fly over continents and ballistic missiles that can hit moving gigantic ships
Traditional Aircrafts themselves won't be useful against ships designed with heavy anti air, like you said they move in fleets, and most weapons on those ships are anti air weapons same with traditional anti ship missiles
Ships themselves will be useless against submarines including aircraft carriers if they can't detect them
And submarines.. those seem like they have conquered the naval battlefield completely...
So yes I believe maybe countries should start making better plans to build useful naval vessels to catch up to this change as well.
@@T.M.O001ships are useless against aircraft however this is modern day naval ships not ww2 naval ships. Air defense system had improved drastically now. They are more accurate than ever. In modern day, most aircraft do not close in on ships like in ww2.
The reason why Chinese have many aa system because it is their naval doctrine. It is all about area denial. The key point is to limit US access into area and intercept any potential strikes
Thank You!
I see that China is taking the US threat seriously.
Watching the license built Z-9 made my heart sink. I’m thinking of Macron’s recent visit and what else he might have sold them this time.
It was licensed in 1980s when the West and China had a common enemy. The cooperation after 1990s were mainly for civilian use. EU still impose arms embargo on China. And PLA reduced the dependence on imports. For example, Z-15 is a very good platform. But it is impossible for PLA to adopt.
Boo hoo 😂
why your heart sink? are you scared?
The Z9 only has 4 tons and is not a qualified anti-submarine helicopter. You should feel a headache about the SZ-20, as it is very qualified as an anti-submarine helicopter.
If it makes you feel better Z-9s are getting retired for Z-20s
Interesting content, but the audio quality is not good. A bit of an echo, I think.
Zhousan sounds closest to Jo-shan (joe shan)
Xuzhou sounds closest to Hshoo-joe (shoe joe)
Nice in photo talking but i don't know if it can kill one in SCS
Pinin X shounds like Hs or Hsh (both are used) the closest sound in English to pinyin X is Sh. But if you make H andt then SH that's X all right.
ou is alway o ls in owe
uo is like wo as in woe
Z is like Ds
Zh is like J as in Jour as in soup du jour
Pinyin Q is like TKTCHH. This sound doesn't exist in English or other European languages.
@@bubac2701 i love watching stupid prejudice lift its head out of the trough
This thing should be called a destroyer, what is the difference between destroyer and frigate these days? This thing weights more than ww2 cruisers
Destroyer has self-destruct mechanism while Frigate has self-freezing mechanism 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes smaller is better ...
Somehow it is looks like oliver hazzard pery class
😂every ships look like the Oliver Perry frigate.
"Oooh. I want a dress from Temu! It's so cheap"!
PLAN adds another foot of welding to their next frigate.
Yup. All those cheap goods Americans buy that are made in China have helped finance the PLA.
Noone over rate chinese defence products than America itself
A word of advice... If I come from a country as poor as yours where toilet is an issue, I wouldnt even laugh at others
@@kimchiba4570 strange , did you ask your master about you using UA-cam.. brave slave 😁..
We are converting OIL TANKERS and FREIGHTERS into vertical missile launchers, each carrying 1000+ missiles 🇨🇳
Forgetting all the Chinese submarines being built and lurking around Guam Philippines Japan and south Korea.
Oh, you can absolutely bet Nobody has :)
Everyone knows all Chinese submarines are noisy, so if you don't hear anything, that can only mean it's not there :)
Considering the size of Japan's submarine fleet and maritime patrol aircraft fleet, I would be surprised if the PLAN is brave enough to test their submarines in Japanese waters.
Just hope it does not run across with can opener 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tofu. 🤣🤣🤣
... Dreg Ships...
@@hanovergreen4091 If it helps you sleep at night, but unlike, say the Russian navy china doesn't have an issue with maintenance or money.
There has been zero instances of new chinese warships breaking down
@@hughmungus2760 Hahahahhaa...pause...breath...Hahahhahahahahahahh... ARe you honestly trying to say China, the home of the lying, thieving, genocid@l CCP, has press freedom??? Muahahahah... anyone caught even thinking of reporting on something negative about the PLA instantly disappears to the place all the bodies of the missing Tiananmen Protestors are "stored". ROFLAU. Thank You so so much for that belly laugh. You have a good day Mr Comedian Sir! Don't quit you day job at CCP Propaganda HQ though...you are kinda transparent :)
funny because the US carriers are often called Tofu's in slang
joker🤣🤣🤣
LMAO china ship 😳😂
paper boat
Not according the US admiral of pacific command.