Well the JMSDF was interested and took a look at US Navy's LCS program developments since 2000s. If you want to know, 30DEX concept (predecessor of 30FFM) take a lot of similiar design and features of LCS. Today's 30FFM still have LCS' DNA but discarded all problems that LCS had, following the global frigate trend.
The LCS was dead as soon as they made it. US has no need for a littoral combat ship. They’re a blue water navy so having a ship specialise in an almost irrelevant field of battle as frigates can do the LCS role plus more.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته لدى احساس قوى جدا ان هذه الفرقاطه قويه جدا وتمتلك اجهزة رصد وتتبع متقدمه جدا امل ان تنضم مثيلاتها الى الاسطول المصرى والله ولى التوفيق وهو جل فى علاه الموفق والمستعان
Why can't we build something like this? Did you listen to program 2017 to funding 2018 to keel laying in 2019 to launch in 2020. Our Navy acquisition system is so broken.
@@definitelyfrank9341 In its original configuration no, but the Batch 2 configuration as showcased at IndoPacific 23 shows an enlarged Mogami with a 32 cell VLS akin to it's US counterpart. It is currently one of 4 vessels types being considered for the RAN(Royal Australian Navy) General Purpose Frigate programs which aim to procure 11 of the type.
Thats one of the best of the destroyers aka Frigates they just need a diferent type of armament that includes land attack capability and long range weapons like heavy Rocket artillery system with 254mm rockets that can reach 200km or more and the use of the Vulcano amunnition in that 5'inch gun but a new naval gun with a 160mm bore is what is needed in naval warfare with a 50kg projectile to 55kg and a good range of 40km RAP ammo, but Rocket artillery is the future in naval warships heavy rockets in the 320mm and a range of 300 to 320km with a 300kg warhead to strike with accuracy targets on land or a lighter 254mm 125kg warhead, and Europe will be the ones that will have or be forced by their people because enough its enough its like Japan now a peaceful country but surrounded by enemies great investments in defense and develop home grown thecnology and nationalized key military industrial complex capacity for true capabilities to fight the future enemies that are rearming and developing a great range of weapons
In an intense battle, yes they are vulnerable. Especially to the aerial threats since they only have the main gun, 11 rounds of SeaRAM, ECM and chaffs for AAW. So the JSDF is intend to modify all 8 Mogami frigates with upgraded radar systems and 16 cells of VLS(can be loaded with 4×SAM or 1×SUM each). And the 7th to the last 12th ships are going to be armed with VLSs when they commissions. So don’t worry about it:)👍
This is what the Littoral Combat Ship should have looked like.
The toyota of frigates
Well the JMSDF was interested and took a look at US Navy's LCS program developments since 2000s. If you want to know, 30DEX concept (predecessor of 30FFM) take a lot of similiar design and features of LCS. Today's 30FFM still have LCS' DNA but discarded all problems that LCS had, following the global frigate trend.
The LCS was dead as soon as they made it. US has no need for a littoral combat ship. They’re a blue water navy so having a ship specialise in an almost irrelevant field of battle as frigates can do the LCS role plus more.
@@CC-ns2dsIt was down to cost more than anything else. And in a world of asymmetric warfare, a relatively cheap littoral ship makes sense.
@@Tourist1967if we need to do littoral combat we have the coast guard available, their cutters are more than capable
Japanese make some beautiful ships
So that's what makes this special. Small crew
Australia might be getting some of these ships
Just look at that 5 inch gun.... just look at it!
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته لدى احساس قوى جدا ان هذه الفرقاطه قويه جدا وتمتلك اجهزة رصد وتتبع متقدمه جدا امل ان تنضم مثيلاتها الى الاسطول المصرى والله ولى التوفيق وهو جل فى علاه الموفق والمستعان
Super Frigates
Why can't we build something like this? Did you listen to program 2017 to funding 2018 to keel laying in 2019 to launch in 2020. Our Navy acquisition system is so broken.
VLS needed badly, bigger magazines for more weapons
They're using the names of light cruisers and cruiser classes of the old IJN 😮
2/3 of a Constellation Class frigate for 1/3 the cost...?
Nowhere near as potent as the Constellation-class.
@@definitelyfrank9341 In its original configuration no, but the Batch 2 configuration as showcased at IndoPacific 23 shows an enlarged Mogami with a 32 cell VLS akin to it's US counterpart. It is currently one of 4 vessels types being considered for the RAN(Royal Australian Navy) General Purpose Frigate programs which aim to procure 11 of the type.
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Thats one of the best of the destroyers aka Frigates they just need a diferent type of armament that includes land attack capability and long range weapons like heavy Rocket artillery system with 254mm rockets that can reach 200km or more and the use of the Vulcano amunnition in that 5'inch gun but a new naval gun with a 160mm bore is what is needed in naval warfare with a 50kg projectile to 55kg and a good range of 40km RAP ammo, but Rocket artillery is the future in naval warships heavy rockets in the 320mm and a range of 300 to 320km with a 300kg warhead to strike with accuracy targets on land or a lighter 254mm 125kg warhead, and Europe will be the ones that will have or be forced by their people because enough its enough its like Japan now a peaceful country but surrounded by enemies great investments in defense and develop home grown thecnology and nationalized key military industrial complex capacity for true capabilities to fight the future enemies that are rearming and developing a great range of weapons
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Without the VLS these things are simply floating targets.
In an intense battle, yes they are vulnerable. Especially to the aerial threats since they only have the main gun, 11 rounds of SeaRAM, ECM and chaffs for AAW.
So the JSDF is intend to modify all 8 Mogami frigates with upgraded radar systems and 16 cells of VLS(can be loaded with 4×SAM or 1×SUM each).
And the 7th to the last 12th ships are going to be armed with VLSs when they commissions.
So don’t worry about it:)👍
13番艦からは新型艦(3900t→4880t)に変更され、VLSの数も16→32に強化する予定
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This ship is designed to supplement the US navy. It doesn't have the VLS size or the radar for air defense at all. Mainly a glorified sub hunter.
Weaker radar and there is no vls
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