Problem with that comment is watching players from past eras, you're usually watching thru the lens of today's game. So it lack complete perspective and many nuances
He's not a legend he got owned by Chris when he asked him if his old high school team could play against today's high schooler and he said yes. His whole argument crumbled. Should've put his ego in check and said no. Took the bait like a sucker
@@juice4080 not really. His only point about UA-cam was that he was able to evaluate magic and bird no differently than Chris and rob given that they both had access to the games. Which might be more credible analysis since he has no nostalgia attached to magic and bird unlike Chris and rob. Chris’s point about high school players was a real well sprung but it’s just a strawman. He was trying to use the guys opinion about an unrelated topic to defeat his original argument.
The more interesting debate is the 5v5 question. Not this 2v2 nonsense. Collectively Bron-KD are better on defense, shooting, finishing and are more athletic so this isn’t even a good question to be honest.
@@melvinhhcp3615 if they were both 7ft tall, it’s would be close but then there’s the speed Kd has over bird that gives him another advantage..dunking and driving is part of offense too
@@mlking213 Bro, I'm telling you. Bird & KD are damn near the same player. 1A & 1B. You must not know Bird was league MVP for 3 straight seasons, the only player in NBA history to do so.
Give me Bron and KD, all day. I respect the hell outta Magic and Bird both. They’re obviously legends and should be treated as such. But this would be an awful matchup for them.
Not taking anything away from the brilliance of Larry and Magic, but I just feel like LeBron and KD would steamroll them, especially with LeBron's strength and physicality and KD's freakish length. And are we taking all four of them at their peaks?
Lebron is stronger than Larry Legend but not tougher. Larry averaged more boards a game even though he played with solid rebounders in Mchale and Parish.
So athleticism is the determining factor for you. Tell that to Dominique wilkins, tell that to jordan,. Athleticism isn't the determining factor. And yet you're talking about it as though it is
@@kdogg1000 Lebron is a better rebounder than Larry, stop it. Idc that Larry averages slightly more rebounds a game in the playoffs. If you told Larry and lebron to get as many rebounds as possible, lebron would get more rebounds period.
@@Howdidhenotseeme bro Larry Bird used to outrebound Hakeem and Ralph sampson. He used to out rebound both McHale and Paris he is so out rebound and average more rebounds than Patrick Ewing and David robinson.. Bird was a post player. You have to understand that bird was a center that could shoot and pass. he has a mentality over rebounder. He's not a perimeter player. Even though bird played in the perimeter his main spot was in the post and getting dirty with the rebounds. You have no idea about Larry birds game
The people who say it wouldn't be fair shows me how ignorant you guys are for the game of basketball. You guys never seen Larry Bird or magic. half of you don't even know that magic Johnson had a crazy mid-range. Half if you don't even know that magic and bird would be considered the best post players in today's game. They be considered the best passers in today's game along with jokish and LeBron. You guys talk with so much certainty and I have such an ignorance of the history of the game that I think this is going to happen to LeBron and Kevin Durant once they retire
Don't forget that magic and bird had 90% free throw shooting. They were good shooters. Magic was a good spot up shooter and bird wasn't all around shooter.
Kd is a better shooter than bird, his ability to drive and pull up on a dime with a release that’s 9-10ft in the air is unstoppable. It’s basically the sky hook version of a mid range shot. Magic had a set shot, he wasn’t gonna break a guy down and shoot a Step back jumper. Magic’s best ability is passing which isn’t much valuable in 2 on 2
@@datsapaddlin6449 well they're used to attacking and having no help defense. It's part of the rules.. Bird and magic played in a more congested era. It was harder to finish around 3 dudes. There's a lot of inflation in terms of skills because of the unbelievable spacing
People ain’t sayin Magic and Bird wouldn’t cook today but this is like expecting a slightly taller version of Luka to guard Lebron or KD...they wasn’t great defenders or athletic enough to really do anything to stop them.
I am 32 too. People older than us think this generation is soft, it goes both ways. You should know better than this. We have watched Jordan, Kobe, LeBron play. The game has changed many times since Magic and Bird's time. It is not superior, it is just different. The players are faster and have more skills and the contact and defense is nonexistant because of the nba rules for foul calls. If you put the truly great players from this era to the 80s or 90s and vice versa they will find a way to adapt. This conversation is about match ups though and that's a bad match up for Magic and Bird.
The idea that players couldn't adapt to today's game is absurd. Bird COOKED Pippen even with a bad back in the early 90s. Pippen played until 2004 and was the leader of the Blazers team in 2000 that almost beat Kobe and Shaq in the WCF. I can name several role players that were drafted in the 80s that played into the 2000s and did well.
Yup. Bird even cooked a young but ridiculously athletic and pesty Rodman. The same guy that locked down a Shaq at some point 🤣. Bird would kill in the game today
A lot of you dudes is smoking dope. There are only 3 current players that I would even mention with Bird and Magic, and that's Bron, KD, and Steph. Yeah, they could win, but to say it would be a blowout is straight foolish.
@@mysterion5136 I mean they would get the easier less contested shots with their athletic ability. It would be pretty bad most likely. Bird and Magic were limited on defense and they wasn’t athletic either. It’s just common since.
@@mysterion5136 It would be a blowout. Lebron and KD will destroy Magic and Bird. Besides the overwhelmingly superior athleticism, Lebron and KD are more skilled. Magic couldn't really shoot from the outside. At the latter part of his career, he improved his 3-point shot just like Jason Kidd. But he would only make when he was wide open.
@Chance Blackmon they couldn’t jump over a paper back that’s how. He wouldn’t have to shoot much cuz he would blow right past them with no rim protection.
I love how Chris just changes the narrative, The conversation was about 2 on 2 He made it about a team game just so he could put magic and Larry above LeBron and KD, Because head to head they both play better defense than Magic and Bird,talking about they pass better 😆, defense wins games especially 2 on 2!!
Thats not it. He took lebron and durant on a 2 vs 2. Then, he took magic ...bird in a 5 man. Im brussards age and watched all 4. I agree with brussard. In a 5 man, going wit magic...bird. 2 vs 2 im taking lebron and kd.
LOL at these guys having to nitpick LeBron for just his free-throw shooting, the only, and I mean only weakness in his game. KD + LeBron will win this easily. It would not be close. 21 to 8. Easy money. Magic would be a non-factor due to his lack of shooting.
LeBron is not a good mid range shooter either. He shoots 35% for his career from outside 3 feet. Magic was an underrated shooter. Shot 38.4% from 3 in 1991 on 3.5 attempts per game. It would definitely be a close game. KD can't lock down Bird.
I wouldn’t say his only weakness. His midrange shot is a weakness and his 3 ball is average at best definitely not a strength. With that said lebron and KD definitely win.
The logic of 2 on 2 makes as much sense as: "what if they played on Mars?" 5 on 5 is all that matters because it's how the game is played. Yes, I agree on the 2 on 2 goes to lebron and KD. However, if Bird and Magic came up in modern basketball culture they would be more athletic than they were... If one thing is hypothetical, then all things are hypothetical. 5 on 5 , bird and Magic every single day.
I don’t care where they’re at all time. I’m talking about a 7 foot tall guy who has the handles and moves of a point guard, along with unlimited range shooting and inside scoring without needing many shots and can defend 1-5. I’m talking bout a 6’9 freak of nature with unlimited athleticism and strength, high IQ, great passing ability, a freight train to the rim and is also a versatile defender. All respect to Larry and Magic, but I got 👑 x 🐍
Magic was such an underrated shooter. Magic attempted less than 1 3 a game his first 9 seasons. He didn't start shooting 3s really until his final season in 1990-91 when he shot 38.4% on 3.5 attempts per game. He adapted his game. He definitely would be an above average 3pt shooter if he played today.
@@KingKalidor KD is one of the best shooter of all time. That wasn't the point. My point was that many people think he was a terrible shooter when he was actually pretty good.
Athleticism and strength isn't the end all be all. Its SKILL. Look at Nikola Jokic hes one of the slowest yet he's dominating more athletic players. Of course Bird and Magic would hold it down!
Guys come on! Do u think that magic and bird would win over LBJ and KD? This media lived the old era and still supporting it! After 20 years, the new media stupids will be saying about the current players as goats and hammering the new players! There is no professionalism!
I am going Magic and Bird. Both great leaders and have tremendous in terms of playing basketball. Not to mention Larry Bird was an unbelievable shooter with 50/40/90 splits in 86 and 87. And they will probably go to the post more and score more easy baskets.
Handchecking doesn’t make the difference y’all claim. I was playing against hand checking when I was 13. Didn’t do too much plus they didn’t like have their hands on you 100% of the time. There is a reason 2PT% was higher back then than nowadays...handchecking is overrated and only made minimal differences.
PPG,DRTG,FG%,2PT% all favors today’s NBA defenses since all of them are lower on an average in “Lebron’s playoff years” than in “Jordan’s Playoff years”
@@Kingstyles05 Yeah. Magic and Bird were phenomenal players, but their athleticism was nowhere close to the freakish athleticism of Lebron and KD. Also, Lebron might not be a great shooter from the perimeter, but he's still better Magic. So, if just 2 on 2, Lebron & KD would beat Magic & Bird.
All star Weekend needs to bring a 2v2 or 1v1 game to 21 format to really prove whose the best at each “position” . More so Guard vs Guard and Big vs Big .
Quinn cook posted the laziest question. How bout Jordan/Pippen vs LBJ/Kyrie or give him AD or Wade...then ask folks who they got but we know why Cook didn't lol.
Without a doubt 9 rings 14 NBA finals... in only 13 season each one Magic and Bird would won.... League changed too much but there in no magic nowadays.
this whole 80s physicality gets so overblown . Dudes acting like they can just grab KDs arm back then and not get called for a foul lmao fouls still got called . Nobody his body type had the speed or dexterity to guard him and people who did are 5-6 inches shorter . He'd do more work back then not to mention he'd be getting 3s up to their 2s.
They act like that physical defense stopped people from scoring lol. It didn’t 😂. The 80s games had higher scores then today at times. It was a great era but the great players of today would’ve been fine.
"I've seen everybody play because ive got youtube" lol they had no rebuttle for that when he asked them whats the difference so chris had to switch to another point.
Bird used to torch the super athletic guys of the time like prime Dominique Wilkins. I got no doubt that he could do the same against Lebron and Durant. Magic was also a beast and torched taller guys than Lebron and Durant when he played Center. This is a lot closer than people think.
Lebron isn't Wilkins.... Lebron is 30 lbs heavier than him and a great defender. Wilkins never made even 1 all defensive teams. Magic can't torch lebron who's bigger, stronger and more agile than anyone Magic played against.
A lot closer but you still have Bron and KD. Lol. Wilkins had no left, and couldn’t dribble without looking down a lot. Bron is Bron. KD like he said, you know who I am.
Bro Wilkins use to give the Celtics fits too. Him and Bird use to have Duels. They couldn’t stop him either. Lebron and KD would be to much cuz Magic wasn’t the scorer the other 3 are.
@@datsapaddlin6449 I grew up a Hawks and Dominique Wilkins fan. No other player scared me more as a kid than Bird. 'Nique would score 40 but Bird would always make the winning plays. Same with Jordan, "Nique had some epic duels with him too. He was a scoring machine and was def up there with the best of them and I think he would've done great in today's NBA ( they probably would have him play as a small ball PF nowadays) yet Bird always found a way to win. I agree with Chris and Rob Lebron and KD would probably win but it would be a hell of a close game. KD and Bron are superior athletically but Magic and Bird were crafty AF and could make up for it with smarts.
Hahahahaha Bird would make Lebron cry all the way back home to his Mom, Lebron as an athlete is incredible. But there is no way that he could handle Bird getting into his head.
@@oblove1586 without context lbj and kd would win it easely but with context I go with bird and magic. Context means. You have to give LB and magic the skillset and athletics of the 2k10 then you have for LB Luka but with a better shooting touch and magic wow he would be a cheat code. or give Lbj and kd the athletics and skillset of the 80
C'mon man, I'm going with prime Larry and Magic. It would be close but Bird was money from any range and Magic was tall, big, and an underrated scorer if he had to be. Prime Larry was quick, active, and could use both hands inside to add to his GREAT shooting as in 90, 50, and 40. Bird was a walking bucket if he wasn't so unselfish...people forget how great prime Bird was. Prime Bird is easily top 5 for me and higher than Magic on the all-time list in my opinion.
Hahahaha hahahah hahahah Bird and magic couldn't hold jordan and zeke. They both are smaller weaker but somehow bird and magic magically can improve thier body to match apex bron and kd. People don't even try to think anymore.
Bird is top 3. Magic is top 10. Lebron is #16 and KD is top 20. Bird was a much, much better passer than Lebron. And a much better shooter. And Bird and Magic might lose a bit defensely inside, but who can stop Bird? And he can shoot 3 pointers all day. And Magic and Bird would put on a dizzying passing exhibition. So, for every Lebron dunk, there's a 3pt-er. And Magic can play EVERY position...so.. Im no math genius, but.... And Bird would trash talk the whole game...which would rattle these new players...😇 Magic and Bird would still win this. 😉
2v2 is an entirely different game altogether. Bird and Magic were team players, they weren't isolation scorers. This isn't exactly a fair topic to discuss. You can't put a top European cuisine chef in a Chinese cuisine restaurant and expect good results just because he's a top chef. It just doesn't work like that. Jordan/Pippen vs. LeBron/Durant would be a better matchup to analyze.
Highlights prove otherwise. I always hear this myth that players from back then didn't use their off hand. Footage doesn't lie. Even players from the 50s like Bob Cousy have plenty of highlights of them using their off hand.
@@BaithNa Yeah that documentary doesn't take into account the more lax palming calls. Again, John Stockton had a left. Highlights prove that. Switching to your off hand suddenly could have been called a carry back then.
Idk where Chris comes from with his point about positioning. It’s all about positioning nowadays on both ends. Back then in the isolation era you could clear out and nobody could stop the 1 on 1 player
I don't like this thought experiment because it's too easy...LeBron and KD would body them in caskets. But I love this thought experiment because LeBron is placed in company where he belongs. It's immature and ridiculous to compare him or any of these guys to Michael Jordan da Goat. These four men are Jordan's sons, LeBron being the eldest of his children. MJ surpasses these guys in both basketball IQ, skill, and accomplishments. These four belong in the same league together which means they are 5-10 tiers below Michael Jordan. This is a great thought experiment.
Love their podcast but they went super get off my lawn with this one. The first caller said it all, “ I did watch all the games because of UA-cam .” That is a 100 percent. I don’t know why the older folks refuse to realize that fact. We can watch almost any game or person career through UA-cam. Probably better than these old time writers and reporters can while attending the game personally. You can only follow one game at a time versus now, we can see all the highlights and stats immediately after the game
A question like this is impossible to answer, Bird and Magic lived in a completely different era in terms of how the game was played, diet, training etc. I know mentally I’d go with Bird and Magic because they would talk and trash anyone off a court, physically you’ve got to go with KD and LeBron. One thing I don’t think is being mentioned is in that scenario who would want it more, now we all should know Bird and Magic never backed down, can’t say the same for a KD and LeBron. Larry is still pissed and can’t let it go that he lost to Magic in college finals, even with what he achieved in the NBA, and Magic may be his friend but still is looking for something he can find so him and Bird can go at it again and all those rings haven’t put his fire out. There’s no diet or training that can change what’s inside. It would be close and over a series physicality may come through but you can’t just discount Bird and Magic, those 2 knew how to win and adapt.
Kevin Durant most skilled player ever best scorer ever and Lebron is the most Athletic and overall player ever would definitely beat Bird and Magic in a 2 on 2 or 5 on 5 KD is the most Clutch too
@@melvinhhcp3615 I came to say the exact same. The most skilled player to ever play the game is Kobe Bryant. Followed by Hakeem Olajuwon. The rest can be debated.
Prime Larry Bird is the closest thing to Batman in the real world. Every nuance was master class and beyond what you'd think was possible. Fakes to get folks off balance, footwork, positioning, passing, lightning quick hands, coordination, shooting, mental toughness, iron will. The dude made basketball look easy against the best competition of his era.
Yeah but his defense was massively overrated. He wasn’t a great one on one defender at all. The athletic guys use to kill him on that end. He was an unstoppable offensive player but let’s cut the crap. He would get killed by Lebron and KD without any help defense. At the least Lebron and KD would contest him better then he would contests them. That’s just a fact.
This is quite simple lol. Chris and Rob are really trying to guage different scenarios as if it would change the outcome. 90s rules, free throws, etc, it dosent matter. BRON AND KD period 😂🤣
It’s not accurate to say you can’t have an opinion if you didn’t watch them play. So only a few hounded thousand people can talk basketball okay.... Tapes are here and we can see how good someone was.
People always forget to adjust classic players to the training and modern medicine they would receiving in today’s times. Magic Johnson and Larry bird from back in the day in today’s times would be even better than they were back then if they were in today’s times and lebron and kd would not be the same players if they were in the 80s based on the training they would’ve received back then they would be good still but no who they are today
They would be completely different players if we adjusted their training to the modern standards. Magic couldn't even play PG in the 90's when he came back, he had to play power forward. You have to take them as they were.
@@dparks2856 Not so much with Bird. He played with a lot of hustle & didn't mind sacrificing his body or diving on the floor to make the correct defensive play.
They said if you looked at James Harden you wouldn't know he played ball... Wtf are these guys talking about? He's 6'6 and is super built has huge muscles like what😭
Whoever threw this out there was tripping. And you guys "THE ODD COUPLE" you're tripping as well for doing this. Anyone who knows basketball got Kevin Durant and LeBron James over Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Please! As much as I love Magic and Larry. I've Got Magic shoes and other gear okay, but no. You're talking about possibly the two best all around player's to ever do it in KD and LBJ.. This topic is whack.
A match like that might come down to which pair has the greater court sence,who is willing to put victory over pride,wanting to see his teammate truly shine Bird and Magic all day
My problem is they say you cant say any of the new school would destroy any of the old school but its ok for the old school to make these fake claims that they would destroy the new school. Respect has to be both ways.
@@kjb200814 than why the most athletic players like these players in the dunks contest never win championship, , basketball is 80 percent mentality and u have to think the game, if u relying on just athletic abilities and skills u defeated before u start, bird and magic wasn't very athletic which is why they out think u on the court, but I would give the edge to kd and bron but u not running over another grow man
@@herbslim2008 see where you are misunderstanding is the fact that they are only athletically better they are also more skilled. It’s a wash honestly they can’t stop them from getting to the rim and they can’t stop them from shooting over them. Bird doesn’t have the athleticism to keep up with either and neither one of them have the strength to stop Lebron at the rim
You can say the same thing about magic. Magic had a better post game than LeBron and passed. better off the post done LeBron. simply because back then you had to be a better passer off the post. And bird has better off movement than KD and he's a better post player than kd. I would say that LeBron and Katie would win but by hair
They were originally the New Orleans Jazz, but when they moved the franchise to Utah they should have changed the nickname, I’ve always thought a team in Utah being named the Jazz was comical
Larry Bird and Magic Johnson cannot guard KD and Lebron. This is a 2 on 2. Not 5 v 5. Don't matter how hype Andre gets. Lbj and KD have defense, the other two do not. As great as Bird and Magic are they'd be helpless on defense.
@@christophermitchell8144 lmao Yall clearly don’t understand how basketball works. If he’s not even putting up those points now how would he do it in the 80s when the lane was clogged with big men and true rim protectors and he lacks a consistent mid range or post game? Sucks at the free throw line. If he’s not putting all those points now when the lane is wide open because all the big men are camped out behind the three-point line he would definitely not put those points up back then or grab all those rebounds Because there would be less to grab due to the clogged lanes and big men. It’s easy to grab 8 rebs a game over euro stretch fives and the small ball era.
@@jamtv3258 I overstand bball 80s bball was a bunch of unskilled bums and big slow hacks all the guys today would be stars back then Michael Cage was an All Star, Bill Lambier was an All Star Kurt Rambus started omg what wld AD Jokic and Myles Turner do back then I get some of yall loyal to 70s 80s 90s ball but Todays game is more skilled players todays bums would be stars back then- Kurt Rambis started on championship teams a total bum! LeBron wld be Buck Williams/Karl Malone but MORE OF A GOAT LOL
and comparing Bron to Buck n Karl is an insult to him but he wld be a PF and dominate 80s bball omg him at the 4 with cage, oakley, rambis, ml carr, bird trying to guard him the rules would have to change
Magic would be an offensive liability IN 2 ON 2, not 5 on 5. But the better matchup would be Jordan&bird vs lebron &kd! I think old school could win that!
@@fredrickmeredith513 I'm saying it would be a better matchup. And it wouldn't be any massacre. Who stopping Jordan? And you forgetting how good bird was offensively. One of the quickest releases ever since he doesn't jump with the ball. It could go either way!
MJ-Magic-Kobe-Bird-Kareem-Bill Russell- I’m so sick of all these main stream LeMedia stans. Lebum isn’t better than the late great black mamba!!!!!!! Cut the crap
I could see MJ Kareem and maybe Kobe but Lebron is the better all around player then those other guys stop it 😂. They never had to carry a team in their entire careers.
“I seen everybody play, I got UA-cam”
That dude was a legend 😂 they couldn’t respond to that
hahaha
Problem with that comment is watching players from past eras, you're usually watching thru the lens of today's game. So it lack complete perspective and many nuances
He's not a legend he got owned by Chris when he asked him if his old high school team could play against today's high schooler and he said yes. His whole argument crumbled. Should've put his ego in check and said no. Took the bait like a sucker
@@juice4080 not really. His only point about UA-cam was that he was able to evaluate magic and bird no differently than Chris and rob given that they both had access to the games. Which might be more credible analysis since he has no nostalgia attached to magic and bird unlike Chris and rob.
Chris’s point about high school players was a real well sprung but it’s just a strawman. He was trying to use the guys opinion about an unrelated topic to defeat his original argument.
@@juice4080 It depends how old he is though, if he played high school in the mid 2000s then that’s still the modern era.
Was waiting for Rob’s dig at Lebron. Even when he chooses him he criticises him. Hatin is real guys.
facts jus had to bring up freethrows and hes the weakest link
Is Rob under a contractual obligation to use the phrase “poo poo” in every episode?
Yes it is in his contract. He needs to say poo poo and prisoner of the moment in every episode.
Rob Parker finally cleaned his camera! Hooray!
I was wondering why nobody told him
So unprofessional
Joint been filmy as TF!
Lol
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You think a guy that calls people cornball brothers cares about professionalism?
I agree with Rob sayin don’t disrespect the older guys but all he does is disrespect the younger guys 😂.
The more interesting debate is the 5v5 question. Not this 2v2 nonsense. Collectively Bron-KD are better on defense, shooting, finishing and are more athletic so this isn’t even a good question to be honest.
LBJ and KD by a mile. Superior offense, defense, and athleticism. Not close.
I agree
KD & Bird's offense are about the same.
@@melvinhhcp3615 if they were both 7ft tall, it’s would be close but then there’s the speed Kd has over bird that gives him another advantage..dunking and driving is part of offense too
@@mlking213 Bro, I'm telling you. Bird & KD are damn near the same player. 1A & 1B. You must not know Bird was league MVP for 3 straight seasons, the only player in NBA history to do so.
@Danny Krenjamin being physically strong doesn’t necessarily equate to athleticism
Give me Bron and KD, all day. I respect the hell outta Magic and Bird both. They’re obviously legends and should be treated as such. But this would be an awful matchup for them.
Not taking anything away from the brilliance of Larry and Magic, but I just feel like LeBron and KD would steamroll them, especially with LeBron's strength and physicality and KD's freakish length.
And are we taking all four of them at their peaks?
Lebron is stronger than Larry Legend but not tougher. Larry averaged more boards a game even though he played with solid rebounders in Mchale and Parish.
So athleticism is the determining factor for you. Tell that to Dominique wilkins, tell that to jordan,. Athleticism isn't the determining factor. And yet you're talking about it as though it is
@@kdogg1000 Lebron is a better rebounder than Larry, stop it. Idc that Larry averages slightly more rebounds a game in the playoffs. If you told Larry and lebron to get as many rebounds as possible, lebron would get more rebounds period.
@@Howdidhenotseeme bro Larry Bird used to outrebound Hakeem and Ralph sampson. He used to out rebound both McHale and Paris he is so out rebound and average more rebounds than Patrick Ewing and David robinson.. Bird was a post player. You have to understand that bird was a center that could shoot and pass. he has a mentality over rebounder. He's not a perimeter player. Even though bird played in the perimeter his main spot was in the post and getting dirty with the rebounds. You have no idea about Larry birds game
Bird by a mile... Not even close... 2 on 2 is a mens game smh
The people who say it wouldn't be fair shows me how ignorant you guys are for the game of basketball. You guys never seen Larry Bird or magic. half of you don't even know that magic Johnson had a crazy mid-range. Half if you don't even know that magic and bird would be considered the best post players in today's game. They be considered the best passers in today's game along with jokish and LeBron. You guys talk with so much certainty and I have such an ignorance of the history of the game that I think this is going to happen to LeBron and Kevin Durant once they retire
Don't forget that magic and bird had 90% free throw shooting. They were good shooters. Magic was a good spot up shooter and bird wasn't all around shooter.
Kd is a better shooter than bird, his ability to drive and pull up on a dime with a release that’s 9-10ft in the air is unstoppable. It’s basically the sky hook version of a mid range shot. Magic had a set shot, he wasn’t gonna break a guy down and shoot a Step back jumper. Magic’s best ability is passing which isn’t much valuable in 2 on 2
No one is sayin they wasn’t great but Lebron and KD would just blow past them without any help defense at the rim. It would be quick and painless lol
@@datsapaddlin6449 well they're used to attacking and having no help defense. It's part of the rules.. Bird and magic played in a more congested era. It was harder to finish around 3 dudes. There's a lot of inflation in terms of skills because of the unbelievable spacing
It's a 2 v 2 not 5 v 5
I’m 32 and A lot of people my age and younger believe nobody from the past ever could hang with anyone in the new area which is ridiculous
People ain’t sayin Magic and Bird wouldn’t cook today but this is like expecting a slightly taller version of Luka to guard Lebron or KD...they wasn’t great defenders or athletic enough to really do anything to stop them.
I am 32 too. People older than us think this generation is soft, it goes both ways. You should know better than this. We have watched Jordan, Kobe, LeBron play. The game has changed many times since Magic and Bird's time. It is not superior, it is just different. The players are faster and have more skills and the contact and defense is nonexistant because of the nba rules for foul calls. If you put the truly great players from this era to the 80s or 90s and vice versa they will find a way to adapt. This conversation is about match ups though and that's a bad match up for Magic and Bird.
The idea that players couldn't adapt to today's game is absurd. Bird COOKED Pippen even with a bad back in the early 90s. Pippen played until 2004 and was the leader of the Blazers team in 2000 that almost beat Kobe and Shaq in the WCF. I can name several role players that were drafted in the 80s that played into the 2000s and did well.
Great point
Yup. Bird even cooked a young but ridiculously athletic and pesty Rodman. The same guy that locked down a Shaq at some point 🤣. Bird would kill in the game today
Yeah but he would also get destroyed on the other end without hand checking
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Rodman locked down Bird for the entire 1988 ECF
@Micah Newson You missed the entire point
The disrespect.
Taking James and KD all day no competition ever!
Its not even a discussion and they drug it out for 20 mins?
A lot of you dudes is smoking dope.
There are only 3 current players that I would even mention with Bird and Magic, and that's Bron, KD, and Steph. Yeah, they could win, but to say it would be a blowout is straight foolish.
@@mysterion5136 I mean they would get the easier less contested shots with their athletic ability. It would be pretty bad most likely. Bird and Magic were limited on defense and they wasn’t athletic either. It’s just common since.
@@mysterion5136 It would be a blowout. Lebron and KD will destroy Magic and Bird. Besides the overwhelmingly superior athleticism, Lebron and KD are more skilled. Magic couldn't really shoot from the outside. At the latter part of his career, he improved his 3-point shot just like Jason Kidd. But he would only make when he was wide open.
It wouldn't even be fair.
it would be fair, you tripping
They would just blow past and shoot over Bird and Magic they couldn’t jump over a loaf of bread
It’s fair. I personally going with Bird and Magic
@@J34xalpha_KING it really wouldn’t be fair.
@Chance Blackmon they couldn’t jump over a paper back that’s how. He wouldn’t have to shoot much cuz he would blow right past them with no rim protection.
I love how Chris just changes the narrative, The conversation was about 2 on 2 He made it about a team game just so he could put magic and Larry above LeBron and KD, Because head to head they both play better defense than Magic and Bird,talking about they pass better 😆, defense wins games especially 2 on 2!!
Thats not it.
He took lebron and durant on a 2 vs 2.
Then, he took magic ...bird in a 5 man.
Im brussards age and watched all 4.
I agree with brussard.
In a 5 man, going wit magic...bird.
2 vs 2 im taking lebron and kd.
LOL at these guys having to nitpick LeBron for just his free-throw shooting, the only, and I mean only weakness in his game. KD + LeBron will win this easily. It would not be close. 21 to 8. Easy money. Magic would be a non-factor due to his lack of shooting.
Early 90s (once Kareem retired) Magic was a beast in the mid post. They'd still lose, but Magic would not have been useless at all.
LeBron is not a good mid range shooter either. He shoots 35% for his career from outside 3 feet. Magic was an underrated shooter. Shot 38.4% from 3 in 1991 on 3.5 attempts per game. It would definitely be a close game. KD can't lock down Bird.
I wouldn’t say his only weakness. His midrange shot is a weakness and his 3 ball is average at best definitely not a strength. With that said lebron and KD definitely win.
@@handlebucket6285 Lebrons midrange shot is decent. Great enough to keep defenders attached to his hip.
they changed the whole question around just to protect bird & magic 😂😂
Fax talkin bout 5v5 😂
LmOooo facts bruh!!
2vs2. It’s not even close. James and KD. Stoppppp itttttttt.
However 2nd caller had me rolling Though
The logic of 2 on 2 makes as much sense as: "what if they played on Mars?" 5 on 5 is all that matters because it's how the game is played.
Yes, I agree on the 2 on 2 goes to lebron and KD. However, if Bird and Magic came up in modern basketball culture they would be more athletic than they were...
If one thing is hypothetical, then all things are hypothetical.
5 on 5 , bird and Magic every single day.
Put some respect on Wilt and Russell's name - they each won 3 straight MVPs.
I don’t care where they’re at all time. I’m talking about a 7 foot tall guy who has the handles and moves of a point guard, along with unlimited range shooting and inside scoring without needing many shots and can defend 1-5. I’m talking bout a 6’9 freak of nature with unlimited athleticism and strength, high IQ, great passing ability, a freight train to the rim and is also a versatile defender. All respect to Larry and Magic, but I got 👑 x 🐍
haha! king ang snake😂🤣
Jordan & Wilt vs. Kobe & Shaq
Lebron and kd for sure not even a debate
It’s
Magic and bird
@@christopherrenshaw5028 stop it .
Magic and Bird definitely
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Magic was such an underrated shooter. Magic attempted less than 1 3 a game his first 9 seasons. He didn't start shooting 3s really until his final season in 1990-91 when he shot 38.4% on 3.5 attempts per game. He adapted his game. He definitely would be an above average 3pt shooter if he played today.
Lol kd 43 %career isn't he ?
you meant 1989-90 season he shot that percentage, 90-91 he a little lower
With that set shot Lebron woulda blocked that into the bleachers
@@KingKalidor hes 38% career. 43% the 2021 season
@@KingKalidor KD is one of the best shooter of all time. That wasn't the point. My point was that many people think he was a terrible shooter when he was actually pretty good.
It’s so hard for Rob and Skip to just pick lebron on anything like damn just be a analyst stop changing the subject
Chris literally chose KD and LeBron from the get go. Stop whining.
@@handlebucket6285 Reread what I said dude you ready to argue but don’t know wtf you talking about I Said ROB PARKER AND SKIP BAYLESS NOT CHRIS GTFO
@@Realjamg My mistake. Calm down Mary.
Athleticism and strength isn't the end all be all. Its SKILL.
Look at Nikola Jokic hes one of the slowest yet he's dominating more athletic players.
Of course Bird and Magic would hold it down!
Na bro we not just talking average athleticism and strength we talking Bron Bron and Deranchula's athleticism and strength... it's a huge difference
Yeah but he gets cooked on the other end lol. So would they
WelL Bird isn’t guarding either one, Magic ain’t guarding Bron and nobody can guard KD soooo
The funny thing is it's really that simple but these older dudes just refuse to admit it
@@5280AcoGs what if bird and magic get ball first?
If they get ball first neither of them driving by so they better pray and hope for post fades and hooks going in.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 they still lose
The best thing about bird and Magic..one team one city...true winners
Guys come on! Do u think that magic and bird would win over LBJ and KD? This media lived the old era and still supporting it! After 20 years, the new media stupids will be saying about the current players as goats and hammering the new players! There is no professionalism!
Bird and Magic practically invented basketball. They’d be extremely hard to top in their primes.
I am going Magic and Bird. Both great leaders and have tremendous in terms of playing basketball. Not to mention Larry Bird was an unbelievable shooter with 50/40/90 splits in 86 and 87. And they will probably go to the post more and score more easy baskets.
Bird top five. Bird and Magic prime would kill them.
Handchecking doesn’t make the difference y’all claim. I was playing against hand checking when I was 13. Didn’t do too much plus they didn’t like have their hands on you 100% of the time. There is a reason 2PT% was higher back then than nowadays...handchecking is overrated and only made minimal differences.
PPG,DRTG,FG%,2PT% all favors today’s NBA defenses since all of them are lower on an average in “Lebron’s playoff years” than in “Jordan’s Playoff years”
Bird and Magic are both 6'9, Lebron is 6'8. I just had to clear that up.
Let's go 3 on 3. Add Kobe to Lebron & KD and Jordan to Magic & Bird.
Changes the dynamic quite a bit actually.
Jordan, Magic, and Bird would win that immediately, especially if we're talking about all players being in their prime.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Can say for sure, but it's fun to talk about.
@@Kingstyles05 Yeah. Magic and Bird were phenomenal players, but their athleticism was nowhere close to the freakish athleticism of Lebron and KD.
Also, Lebron might not be a great shooter from the perimeter, but he's still better Magic. So, if just 2 on 2, Lebron & KD would beat Magic & Bird.
@@se7enzee444 What from my comment made you direct that comment to me though?
All star Weekend needs to bring a 2v2 or 1v1 game to 21 format to really prove whose the best at each “position” . More so Guard vs Guard and Big vs Big .
Quinn cook posted the laziest question. How bout Jordan/Pippen vs LBJ/Kyrie or give him AD or Wade...then ask folks who they got but we know why Cook didn't lol.
Quinn Cook was being lazy and because he was being biased because he is LeBron's former teammate.
Lebron and Kobe vs Jordan and Pippen. How bout that my guy. I may take Lebron and Kobe
Without a doubt 9 rings 14 NBA finals... in only 13 season each one Magic and Bird would won.... League changed too much but there in no magic nowadays.
BRON and KD is literally the athletic version of Bird and Magic .. this is not that close of a matchup
You know it's bad when a Quinn cook tweet makes headlines
this whole 80s physicality gets so overblown . Dudes acting like they can just grab KDs arm back then and not get called for a foul lmao fouls still got called . Nobody his body type had the speed or dexterity to guard him and people who did are 5-6 inches shorter . He'd do more work back then not to mention he'd be getting 3s up to their 2s.
They act like they grabbed and held guys arms and legs back then lmao, if you were physical in the perimeter back then it was still a foul
George gervin is the first kd
They act like that physical defense stopped people from scoring lol. It didn’t 😂. The 80s games had higher scores then today at times. It was a great era but the great players of today would’ve been fine.
@@Northphilly-wu4oq yeah he was skinny like kd, but he was also 4 inches shorter
@@ddp5406 Gervin was way more athletic as well.
Bird and Magic would rule the baseline jumpers and layups
Magic/Bird 👍🏼 you could dream it
This is not even close hands-down magic Johnson and Larry bird
I love how Andre was hyped. They need to put some respect on the old school legends.
Yeah they’d probably score 1 time so 21-2
"I've seen everybody play because ive got youtube" lol they had no rebuttle for that when he asked them whats the difference so chris had to switch to another point.
You guys or thinking of larry Bird and Magic Johnson in their old age but in their prime im taking Magic and Bird.
LoL Larry Legend and Magic in a landslide ..
Bird used to torch the super athletic guys of the time like prime Dominique Wilkins. I got no doubt that he could do the same against Lebron and Durant. Magic was also a beast and torched taller guys than Lebron and Durant when he played Center. This is a lot closer than people think.
No it's not
Lebron isn't Wilkins.... Lebron is 30 lbs heavier than him and a great defender. Wilkins never made even 1 all defensive teams. Magic can't torch lebron who's bigger, stronger and more agile than anyone Magic played against.
A lot closer but you still have Bron and KD. Lol. Wilkins had no left, and couldn’t dribble without looking down a lot. Bron is Bron. KD like he said, you know who I am.
Bro Wilkins use to give the Celtics fits too. Him and Bird use to have Duels. They couldn’t stop him either. Lebron and KD would be to much cuz Magic wasn’t the scorer the other 3 are.
@@datsapaddlin6449 I grew up a Hawks and Dominique Wilkins fan. No other player scared me more as a kid than Bird. 'Nique would score 40 but Bird would always make the winning plays. Same with Jordan, "Nique had some epic duels with him too. He was a scoring machine and was def up there with the best of them and I think he would've done great in today's NBA ( they probably would have him play as a small ball PF nowadays) yet Bird always found a way to win. I agree with Chris and Rob Lebron and KD would probably win but it would be a hell of a close game. KD and Bron are superior athletically but Magic and Bird were crafty AF and could make up for it with smarts.
The 80 /90 /2000/ players where playoff style basketball this era great regular season teams
I think bird would say something hurt both their feelings then they would go home and blog about it. Game bird and magic
Spot on..
Psh... Put Pippen & MJ on Durant & Lebron.
LeBron and KD!
Bird and Magic would beat any combo period..he forget about brains
Why tf is this even a discussion? Lebron would man handle both of them by himself. This the type of convo that makes old ppl seem so jealous
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Hahahahaha Bird would make Lebron cry all the way back home to his Mom, Lebron as an athlete is incredible. But there is no way that he could handle Bird getting into his head.
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@@oblove1586 without context lbj and kd would win it easely but with context I go with bird and magic.
Context means. You have to give LB and magic the skillset and athletics of the 2k10 then you have for LB Luka but with a better shooting touch and magic wow he would be a cheat code. or give Lbj and kd the athletics and skillset of the 80
I would rather go see bird and magic.
Put Lebron on Bird and KD on Magic and Lebron and KD would dominate. Bird was an amazing scorer so he would score point but not enough to win
Prime lebron will has amazing defense too
C'mon man, I'm going with prime Larry and Magic. It would be close but Bird was money from any range and Magic was tall, big, and an underrated scorer if he had to be. Prime Larry was quick, active, and could use both hands inside to add to his GREAT shooting as in 90, 50, and 40. Bird was a walking bucket if he wasn't so unselfish...people forget how great prime Bird was. Prime Bird is easily top 5 for me and higher than Magic on the all-time list in my opinion.
Hahahaha hahahah hahahah
Bird and magic couldn't hold jordan and zeke. They both are smaller weaker but somehow bird and magic magically can improve thier body to match apex bron and kd.
People don't even try to think anymore.
Andre the caller reminds me of micheal rapaport.
Fr, i dom't' know him but he always sounds obnoxious.
Bird is top 3. Magic is top 10. Lebron is #16 and KD is top 20.
Bird was a much, much better passer than Lebron. And a much better shooter.
And Bird and Magic might lose a bit defensely inside, but who can stop Bird? And he can shoot 3 pointers all day. And Magic and Bird would put on a dizzying passing exhibition. So, for every Lebron dunk, there's a 3pt-er. And Magic can play EVERY position...so.. Im no math genius, but....
And Bird would trash talk the whole game...which would rattle these new players...😇
Magic and Bird would still win this. 😉
Rob just wanted to hate or never hoop a day in his life. Since when has anyone shot free throws in 2 on 2.
2v2 is an entirely different game altogether. Bird and Magic were team players, they weren't isolation scorers. This isn't exactly a fair topic to discuss. You can't put a top European cuisine chef in a Chinese cuisine restaurant and expect good results just because he's a top chef. It just doesn't work like that.
Jordan/Pippen vs. LeBron/Durant would be a better matchup to analyze.
Lebron and KD
Bird's skill levels would make it competitive but Magic could barely dribble with his left hand.
Put Lebron on Magic and its game over.
Highlights prove otherwise. I always hear this myth that players from back then didn't use their off hand. Footage doesn't lie. Even players from the 50s like Bob Cousy have plenty of highlights of them using their off hand.
@@handlebucket6285 footage doesn't lie.
Look up the "No Left" documentary on UA-cam and educate yourself.
Stay in school, kid
@@BaithNa Yeah that documentary doesn't take into account the more lax palming calls. Again, John Stockton had a left. Highlights prove that. Switching to your off hand suddenly could have been called a carry back then.
Also bird’s handles compared to Kd’s is very mediocre and that’s a big deal 2v2
Idk where Chris comes from with his point about positioning. It’s all about positioning nowadays on both ends. Back then in the isolation era you could clear out and nobody could stop the 1 on 1 player
You could still double team in that era
I don't like this thought experiment because it's too easy...LeBron and KD would body them in caskets. But I love this thought experiment because LeBron is placed in company where he belongs. It's immature and ridiculous to compare him or any of these guys to Michael Jordan da Goat. These four men are Jordan's sons, LeBron being the eldest of his children. MJ surpasses these guys in both basketball IQ, skill, and accomplishments. These four belong in the same league together which means they are 5-10 tiers below Michael Jordan. This is a great thought experiment.
Kd isn't bodying nobody.
@@handlebucket6285 he doesnt need to he just pulls up over them
Bird is in the same tier as Jordan. KD is there also.
@@kevincramer2683 That wasn't what the other guy said
Bird is Jordan's daddy if anything. Only guy in this list that could say that.
I don’t know who would win, honestly. Games like these are very mental too.
Bird and magic are better mentality 😂 so you answered the question.
@@robertrios1732 Bird and Magic had playoff chokes too but people only bring up their good moments lol. That’s how it goes when time passes.
Even with free throws Bron and KD gone get to the line more.. they know how to draw fouls
Love their podcast but they went super get off my lawn with this one. The first caller said it all, “ I did watch all the games because of UA-cam .” That is a 100 percent. I don’t know why the older folks refuse to realize that fact. We can watch almost any game or person career through UA-cam. Probably better than these old time writers and reporters can while attending the game personally. You can only follow one game at a time versus now, we can see all the highlights and stats immediately after the game
LeBron & K D easy
rob is so sick he can barely admit it
Definitely not easy.
@@handlebucket6285 they couldn’t even stop Wilkins and Drexler gettin to the rim stop it 😂
A question like this is impossible to answer, Bird and Magic lived in a completely different era in terms of how the game was played, diet, training etc. I know mentally I’d go with Bird and Magic because they would talk and trash anyone off a court, physically you’ve got to go with KD and LeBron.
One thing I don’t think is being mentioned is in that scenario who would want it more, now we all should know Bird and Magic never backed down, can’t say the same for a KD and LeBron. Larry is still pissed and can’t let it go that he lost to Magic in college finals, even with what he achieved in the NBA, and Magic may be his friend but still is looking for something he can find so him and Bird can go at it again and all those rings haven’t put his fire out. There’s no diet or training that can change what’s inside. It would be close and over a series physicality may come through but you can’t just discount Bird and Magic, those 2 knew how to win and adapt.
LeBron and KD
Magic/Bird. Better defenders, passers and rebounders.
dude sound stupid
Kevin Durant most skilled player ever best scorer ever and Lebron is the most Athletic and overall player ever would definitely beat Bird and Magic in a 2 on 2 or 5 on 5 KD is the most Clutch too
KD is not the best scorer ever & Lebron is not the most athletic ever lol cut it out lol
Pretty sure Wilt existed.
The most skilled player ever is Kobe Bryant. Perimeter. Midrange. Post. 3ptrs. All NBA Defense 12 seasons.
@@melvinhhcp3615 - Nope!
@@melvinhhcp3615 I came to say the exact same. The most skilled player to ever play the game is Kobe Bryant. Followed by Hakeem Olajuwon. The rest can be debated.
Prime Larry Bird is the closest thing to Batman in the real world. Every nuance was master class and beyond what you'd think was possible. Fakes to get folks off balance, footwork, positioning, passing, lightning quick hands, coordination, shooting, mental toughness, iron will. The dude made basketball look easy against the best competition of his era.
Yeah but his defense was massively overrated. He wasn’t a great one on one defender at all. The athletic guys use to kill him on that end. He was an unstoppable offensive player but let’s cut the crap. He would get killed by Lebron and KD without any help defense. At the least Lebron and KD would contest him better then he would contests them. That’s just a fact.
This is quite simple lol. Chris and Rob are really trying to guage different scenarios as if it would change the outcome. 90s rules, free throws, etc, it dosent matter. BRON AND KD period 😂🤣
Who shoots free throws in a 2 on 2 😂
It’s not accurate to say you can’t have an opinion if you didn’t watch them play. So only a few hounded thousand people can talk basketball okay.... Tapes are here and we can see how good someone was.
People always forget to adjust classic players to the training and modern medicine they would receiving in today’s times. Magic Johnson and Larry bird from back in the day in today’s times would be even better than they were back then if they were in today’s times and lebron and kd would not be the same players if they were in the 80s based on the training they would’ve received back then they would be good still but no who they are today
True. KD would still be ok. He can play both on & off the ball.
This is a great point that most forget to factor into these debates.
You're right, Bron would be even better.
They would be completely different players if we adjusted their training to the modern standards.
Magic couldn't even play PG in the 90's when he came back, he had to play power forward.
You have to take them as they were.
@@jeremiahsmith7706 No, he wouldn't. Lol. Those 80's Knicks & Bad Boy Pistons would bully him.
Hol up, Rob think LeBron is #2 all time? What 😂😂😂
KD & Bron would win. Magic is a defensive liability.
Bird too
@@dparks2856 Not so much with Bird. He played with a lot of hustle & didn't mind sacrificing his body or diving on the floor to make the correct defensive play.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Bird without Mchale and Parish protecting the rim would be gettin yammed on every play 😂
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With that being said, he was a bad defender. That's like calling Curry a good defender because he at least tries
@@agent0200 Not the same parallel. Curry is more like Magic & Iverson on defense. Bird was better than all of them defensively.
Basketball is mostly a team game, and in that regard I’m taking Larry and Magic. 2 on 2 it’s no question KD and LB.
I'd take Bron and KD in a 2 on 2 easily. I would probably take Bird and Magic in a 5 on 5 game though.
What about a 5 on 5 game hurts lebron and kd..... Im taking Lebron and KD in 2 on 2 or 10 on 10
@@Howdidhenotseeme exactly lol
They said if you looked at James Harden you wouldn't know he played ball... Wtf are these guys talking about? He's 6'6 and is super built has huge muscles like what😭
Have you seen him lately? He is 15 lbs overweight and has to play his way into shape
Whoever threw this out there was tripping. And you guys "THE ODD COUPLE" you're tripping as well for doing this. Anyone who knows basketball got Kevin Durant and LeBron James over Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Please! As much as I love Magic and Larry. I've Got Magic shoes and other gear okay, but no. You're talking about possibly the two best all around player's to ever do it in KD and LBJ.. This topic is whack.
So are Magic and Bird.
A match like that might come down to which pair has the greater court sence,who is willing to put victory over pride,wanting to see his teammate truly shine Bird and Magic all day
My problem is they say you cant say any of the new school would destroy any of the old school but its ok for the old school to make these fake claims that they would destroy the new school. Respect has to be both ways.
Andre sounds remarkably like Michael Rapaport.
That’s definitely him!
The old heads need to sit down there is no chance bird and magic win. They get destroyed
You know nothing about basketball if you think they simply get destroyed.
@@handlebucket6285 they can’t guard either one at all. Athleticism prevails plus kd is the most offensively skilled person in the game
@@kjb200814 I didn't say they would win but their IQ and toughness would be a challenge.
@@kjb200814 than why the most athletic players like these players in the dunks contest never win championship, , basketball is 80 percent mentality and u have to think the game, if u relying on just athletic abilities and skills u defeated before u start, bird and magic wasn't very athletic which is why they out think u on the court, but I would give the edge to kd and bron but u not running over another grow man
@@herbslim2008 see where you are misunderstanding is the fact that they are only athletically better they are also more skilled. It’s a wash honestly they can’t stop them from getting to the rim and they can’t stop them from shooting over them. Bird doesn’t have the athleticism to keep up with either and neither one of them have the strength to stop Lebron at the rim
bird and larry would win in a landslide
Lebron plays the post and dishes out to KD whenever he gets board, plain and simple!
Bron plays the post? Lol. Nah
You can say the same thing about magic. Magic had a better post game than LeBron and passed. better off the post done LeBron. simply because back then you had to be a better passer off the post. And bird has better off movement than KD and he's a better post player than kd. I would say that LeBron and Katie would win but by hair
Tryna pick on Magic who cant shoot in a 2 on 2 game try MJ and Bird v Kd And Lebron certified L
@@iuhgfmnbert1744 lol MJ couldn’t guard Lebron or KD at 6’9 and 6’11
@@Rileylmao_ Nah MJ would get in Lebrons scary head and lebron's 6,8 Jordan's 6,6 and the bulked up jordan could guard Lebron
I got bird and magic winning 16-14 against lebron and kevin durant
Bird and Magic.
Next question.
"You couldn't find a more inappropriate name than Utah Jazz" had me dying
They were originally the New Orleans Jazz, but when they moved the franchise to Utah they should have changed the nickname, I’ve always thought a team in Utah being named the Jazz was comical
I know who Rob got
Nobody is stopping anyone in this match up tbf 🤷♂️
Larry Bird and Magic Johnson cannot guard KD and Lebron. This is a 2 on 2. Not 5 v 5. Don't matter how hype Andre gets. Lbj and KD have defense, the other two do not. As great as Bird and Magic are they'd be helpless on defense.
Be easy for bird to get into KD head
@@calumfitzpatrick4500 he’s got absolutely nothing for LBJ though
@@aaronryan8979 he not guarding lebron
@@calumfitzpatrick4500 neither of them have got anything for Lebron
@@aaronryan8979 ok lol
Magic & Bird was more battle tested
Peak Bron average like 36 10 9 in the 80’s
You smokin
Kevin you wrong peak Bron in 80s is 40pts 10 assists easy 10 boards 3 steals 2 blocks easy
@@christophermitchell8144 lmao Yall clearly don’t understand how basketball works. If he’s not even putting up those points now how would he do it in the 80s when the lane was clogged with big men and true rim protectors and he lacks a consistent mid range or post game? Sucks at the free throw line. If he’s not putting all those points now when the lane is wide open because all the big men are camped out behind the three-point line he would definitely not put those points up back then or grab all those rebounds Because there would be less to grab due to the clogged lanes and big men. It’s easy to grab 8 rebs a game over euro stretch fives and the small ball era.
@@jamtv3258 I overstand bball 80s bball was a bunch of unskilled bums and big slow hacks all the guys today would be stars back then Michael Cage was an All Star, Bill Lambier was an All Star Kurt Rambus started omg what wld AD Jokic and Myles Turner do back then I get some of yall loyal to 70s 80s 90s ball but Todays game is more skilled players todays bums would be stars back then- Kurt Rambis started on championship teams a total bum! LeBron wld be Buck Williams/Karl Malone but MORE OF A GOAT LOL
and comparing Bron to Buck n Karl is an insult to him but he wld be a PF and dominate 80s bball omg him at the 4 with cage, oakley, rambis, ml carr, bird trying to guard him the rules would have to change
Magic would be an offensive liability IN 2 ON 2, not 5 on 5. But the better matchup would be Jordan&bird vs lebron &kd! I think old school could win that!
KD and 'Bron would MASSACRE Bird and Jordan man what are u smokin!!? 🤔🤔🤔
@@fredrickmeredith513 I'm saying it would be a better matchup. And it wouldn't be any massacre. Who stopping Jordan? And you forgetting how good bird was offensively. One of the quickest releases ever since he doesn't jump with the ball. It could go either way!
MJ-Magic-Kobe-Bird-Kareem-Bill Russell- I’m so sick of all these main stream LeMedia stans. Lebum isn’t better than the late great black mamba!!!!!!! Cut the crap
I could see MJ Kareem and maybe Kobe but Lebron is the better all around player then those other guys stop it 😂. They never had to carry a team in their entire careers.
Odd couple should do some Q&A ... it would be so great