Kayak Scupper Hole Transducer Mount ( CHEAP DIY!)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Here is a cheap and easy way to mount your transducer in a kayak scupper hole!
When I first got my Jackson Liska from Frontenac Outfitters I was at a loss as to how I would mount the transducer for my Garmin Striker4 Portable, but after realizing I had all the materials I needed laying around in my garage, I came up with this! All it took me was a small piece of 2" PVC piping and 2 short bungee cords!
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Absolutely genius!!! Thank you sir!! I was about to spend some money on an arm that I really didn't like. I'll try it. Worthy of subscribing.
Thanks so much! It's definitely a good way to do it if you have the right kind of transducer. I ended up buying a Yakattack Switchblade transducer arm when I upgraded to the Echomap UHD 75sv with the GT54 transducer. Unfortunately this method wouldn't work with that ducer, it would be too high into the hull and the hull would block the side imaging sonar.
@jeffdicks I had to buy an arm myself. I've got a malibu kayaks xfactor. The recesses under it by the scupper holes weren't wide enough to hide it above the bottom of the hull.
Been looking for a way to do this. This is great!
Thanks! I'm super happy that I could help you out with some ideas!
I used ur method, thanks I saved at least $40!!! I had some small bungies laying around too.
Perfect! Happy I could help you out!
Mate!!!! That's brilliant! I've got plenty of PVC laying around and it was doing my head in trying to get my large Garmin transducer to fit with their bracket thing in the recess. With your solution, it fits fine and the bungie cord will allow the damn thing to fit regardless! Totally appreciate the tip from an Aussie kayak n00b! Playing the video twice for ya hits ;)
That's awesome! Thanks so much, and I'm glad my video could help get the brain juices flowing!
I will caution this, though: if the bigger transducer you're talking about is capable of side imaging, you need to be careful mounting high inside of a scupper like in this video. If it's too high, the sidewalls of the scupper will block the side imaging sonar beams, and it won't work properly. Traditional and down imaging will work just fine, though.
I found this out the hard way when I upgraded from the striker4 to my ECHOMAP UHD 75sv and ended up getting a YakAttack Switchblade transducer arm to mount my GT54 ducer.
@@jeffdicks The Garmin Echomap 45CV I bought for the kayak has a really long transducer. It doesn't do side imaging, but it is the same size as my boats Garmin 7SV which does. I will be testing the setup later today, but i am confident it will work as intended. I don't like the idea of the over edge (Railblaza) style for potential snagging and the internal glued due the lack of temperature feedback. Thanks again!
Lol, sorry...just found the video I was looking for...all set. Keep up the great work!
Haha glad you found what you were looking for! I don't have a Nocqua currently, but I'm looking at them to make life easier on the kayak rather than lugging around one or two 7ah SLA batteries!
Simple and lightweight for a stable transducer mounted, great idea.
It worked amazingly for my Garmin Striker4! I've since upgraded my fish finder to a unit with side imaging though, and this method wouldn't work very well with that transducer as it is so high up in the scupper hole, the hull of the Kayak would interfere with the sonar waves for my Garmin SideVu. I bought a YakAttack Switchblade Transducer Arm from www.Frontenacoutfitters.com to combat that
I just got my first fish finder and wanted to test it out tomorrow. Thanks so much for this video I’m doing this in the am great idea
Thank you! Although I didn't come up with the idea, just adapted it to my needs! I'm glad I was able to help give you some ideas!
Great tips. I just paid $50 for a Yak mount that goes over the side. I'll be returning it for this DIY. Great job.
If the transducer your using only has traditional 2D imaging, it's a great way to go. That said, since making this video I've upgraded my sonar to the Garmin ECHOMAP UHD 75sv and mounting the Garmin GT-54 transducer like this wouldn't work. The sidewalls of the scupper would end up blocking out the sonar waves rendering my side imaging unusable. I actually bought the Yak Attack Switchblade to use with that transducer, and still use it.
@@jeffdicks I just bought a lifetime 11'6" Kayak today. My 10' wasn't good enough anymore. Wanted bigger for holding camping gear and also better Stability. Rivers here in Iowa are VERY shallow the last 2yrs. Transducer DEFINITELY needs protection in my area.
thanks bro you saved me some money this worked perfect for me.
Hey that's awesome to hear! Glad I was able to help you out!
Thanks man! You're a lifesaver
I'm glad I could help you out! I was in a pickle myself when I came up with this solution. I'm super happy to hear it's helped so many people!
That’s a sweet little hack! Thanks for sharing and great vid man!
Thanks man!
That's pretty easy! What do you think about a pvc reducer coupler (like 1-1\4" to 1", or whatever fits) with small end fitting in scupper hole and big end holding it from falling through, then cut notches opposite each other on large end? Then pull bungies with pre-tied knots up in through reducer and into each notch. That way you don't need to tie knots each time you go out.
That's definately a more "put together" solution that would absolutely look much better. It also would be very inexpensive. I just wanted to show people that you could do it with just about anything they have laying around in their house or garage.
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Nice simple setup. I'm trying to figure out how to make this work with my lowrance unit
Great idea and video! I’m currently using a through the hull mount for my Garmin Striker Plus 4 but it’s just okay. I’m going to use your scupper mount this season. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks! I'm glad it helped you out! I've since upgraded to a 75sv that has a bigger transducer and is capable of side imaging, so this method doesn't work with the GT-54 ducer. I ended up buying a Yak Attack Switchblade to run that. But for the transducer that the Striker uses, this is the perfect solution to keep it up and out of the way all the time without having to worry about scratching it up or bumping it off rocks and stuff. There are defintely prettier ways to do it than what I did in this video. I've seen some people cut the outline of the scupper out of an old plastic cutting board and use that instead of the bulky and clumsy piece of PVC pipe I used, for example.
@@jeffdicks I got the Echomap UHD 75sv with the GT54 transducer and i'm going to rig something up based on your idea. Why do you think it wouldn't work with the GT54? It's just a bit bigger than the one in your video, no?
@bebertq this method won't allow you to use the Side Imaging capability of the GT54 transducer. Down imaging and 2d will work, but if the ducer is too high up into the hull like it is in this video, the hull of the Kayak will block the side imaging beams.
I recommend a YakAttack Switchblade transducer arm for your GT54. At least, that's what I use and it's easy to deploy and recover while mounted on the gunnel tracks of my Coosa FD
Good one, this is what I was looking for.
I'm glad my video could help you out!
Thank you this video helped me.
That's awesome Jacob! I'm glad I was able to help you out!
does the transducer face the front or back?
This video gave me creativity, however my lowrance transducer is small enough to fit through the hole. I’m looking for a solution for that now. I grinder the metal to fit but it moves under the boat. Still thinking.
I'm glad it got the creative juices flowing! What kind of kayak do you have?
Clueless on fish finders... does the transducer being up inside that hole affect it at all ? Thanks for the great video!
Regular 2d sonar and down imaging it would be fine, but with my new 75sv with side imaging the hull would impair its functionality like this. I'll have to either DIY a solution that lets me raise and lower the ducer a few inches or buy a rail mounted transducer arm like the Yak Attack Switch Blade.
Great video!
Thanks! Have you been able to do much fishing latey? We gotta get out sometime!
thanks for the video! have you tested this out on the water yet? i really didn't want to drill holes in my kayak
I've been using it this way since day one! 😂
This is an awesome video...as all are of them. Probably a really dumb question. I just got my Striker 4 and the power cable is not what I expected to see. Yellow fuse box on the positive and additional brown and blue wires with the ground. Any good videos on how to subdue these for use with the Nocqua battery pack? Any ideas appreciated!
I used heatshrink tube and bundled the unused wires inside the shrink.
One quick question isn’t there gonna be an air pocket on the under side of the scupper? 6:36
Only if you make the scupper air tight. The way I did it with the small piece of PVC, there's plenty of space for air to move around it. So if you were to, for example, make a piece out of a plastic cutting board or piece of wood, you'd have to make sure to drill a vent hole to allow to air to pass through in order to prevent the air pocket from forming.
He literally discussed this in the video.
With transducer tuck up does it work good.
A standard transducer that just has down imaging and 2d sonar will work just fine. If you are using any kind of side imaging this method will not work very well. The hull of the kayak will impede the sonar beams for side imaging.
Good idea, but did you run into any problems with the scupper draining properly where the transducer pushed up in the hole on the bottom (clogging it)?
No because it's not an airtight seal. Water is still able to drain out.
@@jeffdicks nice, thanks for the video!!!
Does the flat part of the transducer face the front or the back of the kayak?
On the striker4 the flat part faces the back. The tapered end is the front, and should be front facing.
@@jeffdicks I assumed correctly. There must be some other problem.
@@Roadrage-oq5js what's the problem? I'm far from an expert but I might be able to help you out
@@jeffdicks I only care about the traditional view. When I turn the unit on and switch it to traditional, I get a view of the bottom, a temperature, and a depth, for example, 27ft. Then it just stays the same, even if I'm 10ft from shore and can touch bottom with my paddle. Is the transducer bad maybe?
Hmm... that is strange... make sure the cable is seated correctly in the back of the unit and that none of the pins are bent or otherwise damaged. (Check for possible corrosion too) Is it possible that your battery is too low on charge? I know weird stuff happens to fish finders when they don't get enough voltage. You can set the head unit to display the current battery voltage, if it's at or below 12v charge the battery and try again. If you have tried that, try and use a different battery and see if it still reads improperly. It may be a silly thing to state, but you are using a 12v battery, right? If you are using a 24v, like a drill battery or some other kind of higher voltage lithium battery that would cause problems too.
If none of those things work to fix the problem, you probably had a bad transducer. If it's a new unit, I would bring it back to where ever you bought it and exchange it or contact Garmin. They offer a 1 year warranty on defective parts, with exceptions of course.
If you bought it used, you might just have to buy a new transducer.
Thanks for the video! My question is if the transducer is actually submerged since its sitting in that recessed area. Thanks in advance!
The bottom side of the scuppers are below the waterline of the Kayak, so they will most definitely be submerged. You just have to make sure that whether you do it like I did in the video, or have your own creative way to do it that you do not make an airtight seal at the top of the scupper. Doing so will create an air pocket around where the transducer sits.
Hey boss man which way is the kayak facing as well as which way do I point the transducer square side to the front of the kayak or the point of the transducer to the front of the kayak
The point of the transducer is always the front, and should be pointed towards the front of the Kayak. Square side faces the back.
@@jeffdicks 10-4 sir
What is all that background noise? Other than that a nice video.
Haha, I filmed this in my driveway. When I was getting set up, my street was dead, as soon as I hit record lots of activity started happening.
Hi how you install your battery?
When I made this video I was still using my striker4 in the ice fishing bag that held the battery and I just plopped it on the top hatch. I've since upgraded and got a Yak Attack fish finder mount for the track. I keep the battery in the same area there as the transducer scupper. I just used some stainless steel screws and drilled in some velcro tape to that front wall and use that to keep the battery from sliding around. I'll take a picture later tonight when I'm home from work and make a community post so you can see exactly what im talking about.
I just made a community post with a picture and description of how I do it!
Ok sure. Thank u..
nice hack bro!
Grade A thank you
My pleasure! Glad I could help you out!
Don't know knots make lots!!
Haha that's right
I got inspired by this video and changed the top piece. Put a much more video together but you can see the results. I also have ordered what will be the V2. Let me know your thoughts!
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I just had a watch through your video and thats certainly a cleaner way to do it! I wasn't too concerned about making it clean with mine though, just needed it to work! It was hidden underneath that front hatch anyways :P
So informative, thank you.
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I just got my first kayak and transducer, A pure beginner when it comes to this, I have the bullet transducer and its adjustable up and down. My question is, shouldnt the transducer be directed towards what its infront of you in order to read whats coming ahead? hope to get a reply, thanks for the vid cheers!
Oh I wish it were as simple as just aiming your transducer out a bit, but unfortunately that's not the way they work. They need to be angled perfectly parallel with the water surface in order to draw the best picture on your screen. It is the nature of all sonars, except for live imaging transducers, that essentially everything you see on your screen is drawn as you pass over it, effectively giving you an image of what is behind you. Everything you see on a traditional 2d sonar like, what I'm assuming is your Lowrance hook 4x, is history.
I have a video on the basics of how fish finders work, and you can watch it here:
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Hope that helps!
@@jeffdicks super answer! I will check the video out! Also subbing! Yes you are correct about hook2 X4, that's my setup, I have a bracketmount underneath my kayak that's for the bullet to be placed but then the "front side" of the the transducer will be facing backwards and not forward, in my novice brain that feels wrong. I know that they have to be in water in order to work at least. It's just the direction of the transducer that bothers me, there is no other way to put it in the predrilled holes than facing backwards, thanks for your reply btw!
@fuckedupswede it can definitely be confusing for people who are learning. As for your bullet transducer, the tapered end is the front, and the flat side is the back. So no matter where or how your transducer is mounted, that tapered end needs to be pointing towards the front of your kayak!
@@jeffdicks fucking legend! Mounting it tomorrow and heading out! Thanks alot for your help man! Kayaking kicks ass!
you ever fished lost lake in Amherst ?
I have not, in fact, I didn't know that little lake existed until now. Have you been there? Maybe I'll go explore a little this week, so long as the area between Taylor Kidd and the lake isn't private property. It's difficult to tell from Google maps alone.
@@jeffdicks if your interested ill make the treck up with you aha i have a feeling you'll need to cut through brush. had my eye on it for awhile on google earth as i live rather close. interested to see what the old lake holds
@@Realassmf send me a message on Facebook or Instagram @limestonefishing and we'll tee that up!