Re. ILS light fix: Honeycomb has a new version of that LED driver and this bug is fixed. No need to modify the BFC_Throttle_Config.json file. On a side note, thanks a lot for your video guides. Much appreciated!!
@@anthonysonstein4288 well my lights didn't work, I went to honeycomb, downloaded whatever version is there, and they started working again. It's magic. By the way, what is the configuration program for? it's called HONEYCOMB CONFIGURATOR. (I assume flight sims that are not intuitive?). I'm guessing it's not needed for MS2020?
Cpl ... IFR pilot here.... always use FLC for climbs (to protect you from stalls), and VS for descending. :) lots of reasons why these are rules ... and you should treat these as rules and not just guidance.
Hi guys, regarding the IAS light fix: We simply didn’t have an input controller layout for the Bravo, when we wrote the LED profile. So we could not know, which button would be mapped to which autopilot function but could only make educated guesses and try to map the LEDs accordingly. So, depending on which aircraft you fly the LEDs might work, or not work. As simply not all aircraft use the same autopilot functionality. I hope that clears it up a little. Have fun with your Bravos! Greets, Ben from Aerosoft
any idea how to get the caution&warning lights on the annunciator panel to work? I have the latest driver from your website and the other lights work fine, but never these 2.
Mark, I just wanted to say thanks for your very helpful and detailed videos. Even thought this video was about the Bravo Quadrant, I was able to determine how to fix an ongoing problem that I had in MSFS with the NAV button not staying on when I loaded a GPS flight plan. Your video helped me to appreciate that it is probably a conflict in my assignments on my controllers. By deleting the conflict the Nav button works again Thanks a bunch! Lee
The drivers for the LED lights for the Bravo TQ for use in MSFS are now available, version 1.002. There are a numbers of bugs which we have found solutions to. Hopefully this is a start to further updates to expand the versatility of the Bravo autopilot and LED’s.
I have checked the .json file with the newest drivers on Honeycombs site and the file is updated as you recommended but still not lights at all...Any suggestions?
Hi Mark, thanks for all your videos - they are a wealth of information, well put together and most helpful for technically challenged people such as myself. I do find, however, that the rate of presentation is a bit too fast to enable me to take in and comprehend what you are demonstrating. Consequently I have to stop and replay the videos a number of times to obtain a full understanding.
Hi Greg, it is often difficult to find the right balance in a tutorial, both in terms of video size and my time availability. Your point is noted however and thanks for watching. Stay safe.
Thank you, Mark, and have the happiest of New Years you can. Still awaiting delivery of my Bravo from mid-Nov expected delivery 😥, but at least it is paid for! Take care M8.
you will get it soon. i got mine , just now have to figure out where to put it so i can fly DCS with joystick base and grip at the same time. Honeycomb equipment I'm afraid is taking up lots of real estate.
Hi Mark. When you say "I checked the config for the LED file", how did you do that? Where do you look and what are you looking for? I have followed the instructions exactly but the lights aren't coming on at all for me. Great tutorials by the way! I love the Honeycomb yoke/quadrant, but it's been anything but "out the box" for me. I'd have been totally lost without these videos, so many thanks for putting them together.
hang in there, you'll get one. also keep searching eBay as people that pre-ordered them and are either not satisfied with it or didn't have room for it, or a ton of other reasons not to exclude Covid economy issues, etc. , could be selling their units at a very reasonable markup (cover shipping and eBay's 12%).
First of all, I think I’ve found my new favorite sim UA-camr. Second, my alpha and bravo will be here today, as it’s been a while I’m hoping some or all of these issues have been ironed out. Going to be doing set up today. Any input from you, Mark about the current state of the honeycomb drivers as of late?
Hi Mark, I followed your instruction correctly, however the LED won't come out, may be I installed MSFS in different hard drive_ Drive D instead of C, is that the problem?
Would love to see you make a video for P3D and the PMDG 737 NGXu. I've made good progress thanks mainly to an Aerosoft profile download and I have it up and running but the new configurator tool is very difficult to understand and doesn't seem to be nearly as straight forward as the MSFS interface.
Hi, agreed, the P3D interface is very difficult to work around, and more restricted than the Xplane configurator, and I don't want to use third party products to achieve what should be straight forward. Regards
Now owning the yoke and Bravo throttle I’ve noticed the elevator trim on both hardware is not working correctly. The trim is at 10% and if I try and change with the throttle wheel, or trim switched on the yoke the trim will change. Unfortunately, it then moves back to the starting 10%. My question: “do you know of a fix for this issue?”
Check which profile you are using, it does not copy the led config to some of the existing profiles you may have. If this is the case you will need to remake these profiles using the default profile. Hope this helps. regards
Hello , Please can you explain the beggining of your control setting. Im missing the bit where you say you move the throttle filter to search how is this done? I payed £600 for my Quadrant and yoke and i have never been so dissapointed. Ive tried to slow the video down but i just cant follow exactly what you are showing. Sorry im quite new to Flight simming but i am an electronics engineer by hobby as well as an ex Military Special forces Commando. I say ex as Helmand province claimed my left leg. MSFS is amazing and takes me back to places i never thought i would fly over again. But it helps if you have suitable working flight hardware and software.Thank you, Great vid!!
The search function, on the left hand side of the MSFS controls option menu allows you to find things quicker by typing in a name etc, rather than scroll through hundreds of options. You can change the filter search options to all…assigned etc to make it easier to find .
@@dabneyoffermein595 Using MSFS 2020 with the new driver desktop shortcut by Saitek, that's working everything but the display in the Multi Channel, I used to use Spad in MSFS X. I have had people reporting if I change from the Cessna 172 at try another aircraft that some times that starts the display in the muti panel working. Anyway thanks for the reminder.
I did order the bravo quadrant to match with my honeycomb yoke eta is 02/21 but I'll probably be April.also I logged in to msfs 2020 flew my Cessna 182 for a bit it is very smooth also I took off the landing assist off planes don't wander around anymore,but I still have unfinished business in prepard haven't fully used all the addons I paid for lol.
Hi, Nice video! I wondered if you in the future would be kind enough to edit out the “mouse click” at the end of each voiceover? I don’t know if it’s just me, but I find it a bit annoying :) Love your channel!
@@SimHangerFS Hi again. I hear it almost every time after a sentence is done by voiceover. I believe this is when you press “stop recording”. I’ve noticed it in a few videos, but it is indeed not in all :) I hope you don’t take it in the wrong way, but I’m sure you don’t. Again, many thanks for your hard work!
Mark, your videos are great, but you need to mic yourself better so you don't sound like you are in a tunnel. Audio in UA-cam video's a lot of time need to be leveled out and mixed a lot better. Thanks for all you do though. Just a thought.
The workaround I use for the hdg changing in 10 degree increments and vs/alt incrementing in 1000 ft increments is to use fsuipc. It only happens if you have a switch mapped in MSFS that is always on, like a toggle/rocker switch or even the mag switch on the Alpha I've heard. Hard to believe that bug is still around.
@Wealthy Wealthy They fixed that bug a long time ago, weird. FSUIPC is basically used for mapping controls outside of the flight sim and it gives a more options for things you can map. I don't use FSUIPC anymore since it came out of beta and you have to buy it and I didn't need it after they fixed the 10 degree bug. Although come to think of it when I tried a default plane awhile back it seemed to have that issue, but I never fly default planes since they are all completely broken now. I only fly the justflight pipers and they don't have that issue.
Hey Mark, I was hoping you'd reprise this video with the newest MSFS version. I just upgraded my hardware and I'm new to MSFS (used to use X-Plane) and I'm pulling my hair out trying to configure my Alpha, Bravo and older sytex rudder. I can't seem to get my flaps working for anything using the axis tools.
Hi there how do you map the throttles for the king air. I have the bravo throttle quadrant but can’t seem to go from idle to full power without it going into reverse in the idle position not in the reverse detent. Thank you.
You seeing APU working? Haven’t got that LED to show up. How about the anti ice? I notice that the anti ice comes in when it’s off and visa versa? Seeing that also?
@@SimHangerFS Switch itself is binded correctly. I meant in the plane. For example I tried the Longitude. When I turn on Anti-Ice it stays on. When I turn it off it stays on as well. Using the Mouse, not the buttons. Only way to shut it off is if I turn on Pilot Heat.
Hello, Monieur Can you give me a Honeycomb bravo trottle tutorial for an Airbs A320 thank you. I admire your videos but I can not find the video for the configuration of the trottle bravo for Airbus pending thank you and take care of yourself
I think I'm missing something. The video's tittle is 'LED LIGHTS Configuration Guide', and I see you install the driver (as I did myself, the AFC_Bridge folder is in the community folder), but then you're configuring levers and switches, but I didn't see anything about how you got the lights working. And I dont mean a specific light, but all the lights in general. I dont have any lights in any aircraft, so it must be turned on in some way, I assume. In the MSFS Content Manager, the AFC_Bridge folder is categorized as 'Not Installed', but I found that that's normal... I'm getting kinda stuck here...
The lights work providing you build your configs from the “ new” default config that has the lights now built in. Old configs need to be replaced unfortunately.
@@SimHangerFS I found the problem. From the video, I knew there was an exe-file in the folder, but Im not used to apps that need to be started, that the exe-file is 'hidden' behind so a long folder path, like this. But I have my light working. After starting the sim, I start AFC_Bridge and they work. And my complements and appreciation for your videos. I find a lot of valuable info and you're a very good teacher. Im glad I found your channel.
Hi Mark. A little off topic but is there a fix for the annoying 10 degree HDG bug . I can't get the bug to do less than 10 degrees of heading change. Thanks.
Hi! Question: At 03:36 you say your "LED configuration was copied across to the props but not to the jets". How do you check this? Is part of the .json copied to the aircraft folders? Appreciate some guidance because now I have zero lights working on the Fenix (however they do work on any other) nor do any of the turn knobs work... Good job on the videos, great help!
The led activation data on driver load is only transferred to one profile. The issue with the Fenix is it uses non-standard commands for many actions so the default bravo functions don’t work unfortunately.
@@SimHangerFS So if I understand correctly (from your vid and feedback): I need to take a prop profile and copy that to a new A320 profile or just select my current a320 profile (based on a 2 engine jet) and then active the bridge? Sry for this line of questions, but currently lost on what to do (besides using spad.next).
several people have asked the question regarding you saying "3:36 I see that the LED config had copied to the props but not to the jets" but you haven't answered anyone's question on this from what I can tell. where do you see that the config has been copied to the props?
The led config is copied to the default profile only…which happens to be the twin prop config, as mentioned in the video. It is not copied to any other existing profile. All profiles should be created/build from this profile.
@@SimHangerFS i appreciate the response. your video makes it clear that it only affects the default profile, but the question that you repeatedly aren't answering is where are you SEEING this? " I see that the LED config had copied to the props but not to the jets". It's a moot point for me now as I've found another utility that works better, and again I appreciate the vid and response.
I cant get the ias to control the 747 throttle, it controls the display I can see the triangle but the throttle will not change. I'm having to manually use the throttle.
Do you think it makes sense to buy Bravo when I'm only flying in VR ??? I ordered a Bravo throttle when I didn't have VR equipment yet, and now I'm thinking about canceling my Bravo purchase. Is the quality of the throttle levers themselves better than the Saitek I still use?
Hello, the Honeycomb quality is significantly better than the Saitek quality, they use a harder plastic, better components etc. For VR, in my opinion, many of the features of the Bravo will not be accessible as you can't see the unit when flying. If your only flying VR then the Bravo is not recommended. Regards
@@tombulva I use various options, depending on what I am flying, a toggle switch on my yoke, or just the mouse to move the throttles, for multi engine I use the bravo, but just for the throttles, not spoilers or mixture etc. Regards
I see that. I get mine today! I noticed in FS if you If you click you can get a degree but mouse wheel I get 10. Steam gauges are 10. I hope they fix that. I like flying direct VOR on Departure then transition to GPS. Enjoy your content. Long time simmer here. Since FS98 and Real Lic with Instrument Rating. Really Love pushing my IFR skills in FS. Thank you
Hi, this is probably a dumb question, but does the throttle quadrant need to be plugged in? I went to the download page and got drivers, but there was no text about "Enable LED lights." Thanks. Update: Even plugged in, I didn't get that text. Maybe it is all inclusive now.
@@SimHangerFS Thank you for answering, but I don't think you can plug the throttle quadrant into the yoke. They have to be plugged into the computer separately unless I completely messed up my installation. This is the first civilian yoke and throttle I've used. I was using an X-56 before.
@@crawl3ysnipe sorry, my error….thinking of the VelocityOne….with the Bravo there is no separate configurator. The config for the lights are installed into the Bravo default profile. All profiles must be built from this profile. Apologies again
Mark - I downloaded the drivers however it shows in my my content manager as "uninstalled". When I select it I'm not given any option to install. It's located in the community folder as you show in your video...any suggestions? Even when I click on the executable it appears like it's installed...but no lights and still showing as "uninstalled" in content manager.
It's seems to have become a status quo that companies/developers will release a half-baked version of whatever it is they are involved in, use the community as a large beta group and then incrementally update said product. Why? I understand that nothing is perfect first time around but basic bugs such as No2 throttle inop in a driver specifically released for twin engine aircraft makes no sense whatsoever.
I love your video's and the info that they give me, how to fly my plane in a better way in MSFS2020, using the best controls, and showing me what controls are out there. But your voice-over sound you are putting out there, is not up to par... The acoustics on your voice, sound like you spoke into a really big iron bucket. So, that could be improved. As I am an audio engineer and also an audio teacher in Belgium, I would like to make some suggestions, regarding vocal recordings on your channel. Hit me up, if you want to make some adjustments to your channel. Love, M.
Could you guys do a video on a little C+ coding so I could get the rest of the switches to work on the Bravo throttle since they cause a game breaking bug that won't allow you to select precise headings, altitudes, vor settings, radio settings etc.? Thanks : )
How do I make the leds work in the aircraft they are not showing, do I have to copy the lines from the JSON file, I am not sure how to get them working?
The led lights are configured to the default profile only...and this should now be twin engine GA. Best method is to then delete any other profiles and recreate new ones from the default profile and this will carry the led lights across.
So there is no longer an "Enable LED Lights" download option on their website. Is there a different work around now? I have downloaded the most current driver from them and I still have no LED lights
When I look in the config json file, I don't even see anything obvious that would turn on the master caution or master warning lights, have you seen these to be functional?
Maybe you can help, since update to update 5. Under Microsoft flight simulator update section it’s show that honeycomb AFC bridge not install but no download and install button. Plus I have download and install the AFC bride from honeycomb site.
yeah seems like asobo broke another thing. I've tried it Today with new bravo and beside all controls being badly assigned, leds are not working (with installed plugin for fs2020) and creating new profile just deleted all assignments... Sometimes during savings changes it will just crash to desktop.... :/ Works fine on XPlane 11...
But nobody seems to have a tutorial on the A320NX Fly-By-Wire? Can't get my Auto-Pilot light on yet, the 'AP1' comes on the cockpit 'dashboard'. Also the Heading is not shown 'on' on the dashboard.
Still cannot get the AutoPilot to work properly in the A320 Fly-By-Wire. The glass cockpit shows autopilot on -AP1- and so is the HDG. I cannot get the AutoPilot master button to light up. And as for the Altitude, I can't get that to work. I have the latest drivers from Aerosoft for 'AFC Bridge'.
The FBW mod uses some bespoke, non-standard mappings. That is why your having difficulty with config. No solution that I have found without third party apps.
question please, there is something wrong in my msfs2020 when i dial the heading knob, the course also move simultanously, how do i fix it? i deleted and reinstalled the game, even without the bravo quadrant connected it does it. how do I fix it?? thnx for help, can't find anything online that helped me overcome the problem
Hi Marc, have you tried an ILS approach with the Mooney M20R? I can’t get it to capture the glide slope for some reason. It works fine in the older 172, and I’d think that they would be the same. 🤷♂️
I'm waiting, like many, for my Throttle. Will the drivers help with my Alpha Yoke? The lights don't all map in light GA aircraft. Just a few work right now.
Hoenycomb throttle with good quality but is the most annoying system and hard to set up ! Need someone help me out here, MFS does not recolonise any my throttle, pitch and mixture in the control setting. How should my fix it? My version is 1.14.5.0
@@SimHangerFS thank you for your reply. I meant when I was trying to set up the control in the sim, it recognised all the button except the throttle, pitch and mixture. Have no idea why !
How do I get the darn throttle to stop going up/down in increments of 10 for IAS and HDG and 1,000’s for ALT? It’s so frustrating man. It shouldn’t be this hard. Is there a fix for this? Even when using the on screen knobs with the mouse, it only goes up or down by 10’s/1,000’s when the throttle is plugged in.
@@SimHangerFS I can’t get the knob on screen by scrolling with the mouse either to work correctly. It has to do with the binding of the lights switches from what I’ve been told, however I unblinded every button including all the knobs and buttons up top with just the throttles, flap, spoilers, gear and still get the issue. Someone told me to go look into FS Tool over on flightsim.to They said it gets it to work perfectly. Gonna try today. Have you heard of it?
@@gregthegroove have you checked the bindings for the mouse. It’s function is not linked to the switches in any way as far as I am aware. I’ve not heard of the app you mention. The 10’s/1000 problem is coded into the sim so will appear regardless of what you use. There are a few hacks out there to resolve the problem, but they are only a temporary solution. Regards
@@SimHangerFS what bindings for the mouse that would have an effect on the throttle that I should be looking for that shouldn’t be there? Can you help me understand so that I can go look around? Thnnx
@@gregthegroove Hello, I'm not sure I understand what your asking. You can move dials in the cockpit by using the center wheel on the move. It does not support changing the settings (ie heading) by dragging left of right like Xplane.
@@dabneyoffermein595 yes it does, although I did have a problem with Nav/App/ILS mode, but not sure if it was the config or more likely it was an error on my part.
Hi Mark. How can I enable bravo TQ lights on XBOX? (I know Bravo TQ is to be connected to XPC yoke via honeycomb HUB), or is it automatically enabled? My hub arrives tomorrow😁
FYI, the LED driver download from Aerosoft/Honeycomb will only work if you purchased MSFS2020 from xBox/Microsoft. I purchased my version through Valve/Steam. When I ran the install .exe file, it failed because it could not find the folder stream that Steam created to install and run the program. I would be interested if others out there have experience the same issue and if there is a fix for this. The folders it was looking for under Packages are Community and Official, whatever those are. Can I just create them and run the .exe again, and hope the drivers install properly?
Thanks for the reply. This is something the Aerosoft or Honeycomb needs to fix asap. Their .exe program, unlike every other install program I have run during the last 20 years, doesn't allow you to change the load path, it is apparently hard-coded and can't be modified. Terrible, lazy programming on their part IMO. As an experiment, I created the Community and Official folders it couldn't find so they would exist and ran the .exe again. Guess what, it ran successfully to completion this time (no run time error) but since the drivers are not in the place Steam loaded MSFS to, the led lights on the throittle quadrant still don't work. Steam puts their version under a "Roaming" folder, whereas Aerosoft puts them under the "Local" folder. Until they change the config to allow me to change it to where I want it to be, i.e. "Roaming", the driver(s) will never be installed where they need to be.
It's been a long wait to get my throttle quadrant and the first setup video I watched is this one. Unfortunately, the link to download the software is not working. That is the link is good but once you get to the honeycomb page the download link does nothing.
Hello, could you please help me know why even with autopilot all aircraft in MSFS2020 on a cruise flight my plane flight straight but banked to the left or right. Is there something to be configured ? Thanks in advance!
When you press autopilot the aircraft will react to whatever the autopilot settings are. Often it will default to heading mode for example...so the aircraft will turn to the set heading. Press heading button and it will turn heading mode off etc. There is also Nav mode (GPS). The other possibility is that you have two bindings set to a button or axis. So you are pressing a button or moving an axis and it is also moving the ailerons as well causing the aircraft to bank. Check all your bindings in the control section. Regards
Justin, run the config from desktop. Check if it has loaded by checking your community folder....it should show afc bridge. In sim the only config that will have the LED and button config will be the DEFAULT profile. Build new profile from this using duplicate etc.
@@SimHangerFS I opted out of beta and reinstalled the msfs when this happened. It was fine in beta. I have reinstalled the driver 3 times and same result. I might’ve to try-install msfs again.
Re. ILS light fix:
Honeycomb has a new version of that LED driver and this bug is fixed. No need to modify the BFC_Throttle_Config.json file.
On a side note, thanks a lot for your video guides. Much appreciated!!
newer than Aerosoft v2.1?
Buenas, no consigo que se me enciendan las luces led y ya hice incluso lo del video. ¿Qué se puede hacer? ayuda por favor Un saludo
they just came out with another one, and now my lights are working again
@@harpoon_bakery162 V2.1 has been out for months...what new one?
@@anthonysonstein4288 well my lights didn't work, I went to honeycomb, downloaded whatever version is there, and they started working again. It's magic. By the way, what is the configuration program for? it's called HONEYCOMB CONFIGURATOR. (I assume flight sims that are not intuitive?). I'm guessing it's not needed for MS2020?
Cpl ... IFR pilot here.... always use FLC for climbs (to protect you from stalls), and VS for descending. :) lots of reasons why these are rules ... and you should treat these as rules and not just guidance.
Thanks David, good to know. 😀
Very valid point there.
I Am SO Glad That You Are Around To Iron Out And Guide Me Through All Of The Bugs And Niggles . 2 Thumbs Up !
Hi guys,
regarding the IAS light fix:
We simply didn’t have an input controller layout for the Bravo, when we wrote the LED profile. So we could not know, which button would be mapped to which autopilot function but could only make educated guesses and try to map the LEDs accordingly.
So, depending on which aircraft you fly the LEDs might work, or not work. As simply not all aircraft use the same autopilot functionality.
I hope that clears it up a little.
Have fun with your Bravos!
Greets,
Ben from Aerosoft
Hi Ben, thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. Regards
Does this mean if you change it to FLC, it won't turn on with autothrottle?
@@quintenzappe3412 FLC mode in airliners operates differently due to the increased complexity in the RW.
Just got mine! Amazing!
any idea how to get the caution&warning lights on the annunciator panel to work? I have the latest driver from your website and the other lights work fine, but never these 2.
Mark, I just wanted to say thanks for your very helpful and detailed videos. Even thought this video was about the Bravo Quadrant, I was able to determine how to fix an ongoing problem that I had in MSFS with the NAV button not staying on when I loaded a GPS flight plan. Your video helped me to appreciate that it is probably a conflict in my assignments on my controllers. By deleting the conflict the Nav button works again Thanks a bunch! Lee
Thanks Mark. Picked up the Bravo throttle for Christmas and your video will make life that much easier.
The drivers for the LED lights for the Bravo TQ for use in MSFS are now available, version 1.002. There are a numbers of bugs which we have found solutions to. Hopefully this is a start to further updates to expand the versatility of the Bravo autopilot and LED’s.
I've never seen the caution or warning lights come on, but the others seem to work, any ideas?
@@anthonysonstein4288 , hi, I also have not seen these come on so far, pending an update from Aerosoft. Regards
I have checked the .json file with the newest drivers on Honeycombs site and the file is updated as you recommended but still not lights at all...Any suggestions?
@@whycanimakeaname the lights may be in the default profile only.
Hello. Great infor. Hope everything ok , glad you’re back.
Amazing video as always, thanks for putting in the time to explain things so well
Hi Mark, thanks for all your videos - they are a wealth of information, well put together and most helpful for technically challenged people such as myself. I do find, however, that the rate of presentation is a bit too fast to enable me to take in and comprehend what you are demonstrating. Consequently I have to stop and replay the videos a number of times to obtain a full understanding.
Hi Greg, it is often difficult to find the right balance in a tutorial, both in terms of video size and my time availability. Your point is noted however and thanks for watching. Stay safe.
Super user friendly and functional! 🤦♂️
Not to mention the hdg changing by 10s and altitude by 1000s bug that is almost making its 1yr anniversary 🎂.
Thank you for honeycomb videos, haven’t setup it up but got my yesterday looking forward flying with
Thank you, Mark, and have the happiest of New Years you can. Still awaiting delivery of my Bravo from mid-Nov expected delivery 😥, but at least it is paid for! Take care M8.
Thanks Patrick, I hope yours arrives soon. Happy New Year and stay safe.
@Patrick Smith did you order via Amazon or from the company directly?
you will get it soon. i got mine , just now have to figure out where to put it so i can fly DCS with joystick base and grip at the same time. Honeycomb equipment I'm afraid is taking up lots of real estate.
Even watching this video you learn a lot . Thanks !
Thanks for the great informative video. Just got my throttle 2 hrs ago
Hi Mark. When you say "I checked the config for the LED file", how did you do that? Where do you look and what are you looking for? I have followed the instructions exactly but the lights aren't coming on at all for me. Great tutorials by the way! I love the Honeycomb yoke/quadrant, but it's been anything but "out the box" for me. I'd have been totally lost without these videos, so many thanks for putting them together.
You're legend...cheers!
now i just need to find a bravo, to purchase!
hang in there, you'll get one. also keep searching eBay as people that pre-ordered them and are either not satisfied with it or didn't have room for it, or a ton of other reasons not to exclude Covid economy issues, etc. , could be selling their units at a very reasonable markup (cover shipping and eBay's 12%).
Hahahah
Found one! At the normal price too!
First of all, I think I’ve found my new favorite sim UA-camr. Second, my alpha and bravo will be here today, as it’s been a while I’m hoping some or all of these issues have been ironed out. Going to be doing set up today. Any input from you, Mark about the current state of the honeycomb drivers as of late?
happy new year mark slick video well done sir
Happy New Year and take care 👍😁
I would love to see a video using the Bravo with the autopilot in the CJ4. I'm having a terrible time with it....
Maybe in 2 years, when i buy it, i will be able to enjoy it.
Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for the excellent explanation.
Thnx Mark. Hope your budgies are prodigious.... 😊
Great videos as always. very helpful! is there still no fix to set the altitude increments to move in 100 ft increments instead of 100 ft?
mines coming tomorrow! £100 off :) nicee
Hi Mark, I followed your instruction correctly, however the LED won't come out, may be I installed MSFS in different hard drive_ Drive D instead of C, is that the problem?
Thank you - very helpful video.
Would love to see you make a video for P3D and the PMDG 737 NGXu. I've made good progress thanks mainly to an Aerosoft profile download and I have it up and running but the new configurator tool is very difficult to understand and doesn't seem to be nearly as straight forward as the MSFS interface.
Hi, agreed, the P3D interface is very difficult to work around, and more restricted than the Xplane configurator, and I don't want to use third party products to achieve what should be straight forward. Regards
Mark, you really need to install some acoustic panels in your studio. Way too much echo!
Agreed and on order 😁
Now owning the yoke and Bravo throttle I’ve noticed the elevator trim on both hardware is not working correctly. The trim is at 10% and if I try and change with the throttle wheel, or trim switched on the yoke the trim will change. Unfortunately, it then moves back to the starting 10%. My question: “do you know of a fix for this issue?”
do you have AI auto trim on in your assistance settings?
@@SkooBalls correct, that was the problem. Thanks.
@@GWAIHIRKV Np!
Thanks for all of your hard work in making these. I downloaded and installed the driver last night and I have no LED illumination. Any thoughts?
Check which profile you are using, it does not copy the led config to some of the existing profiles you may have. If this is the case you will need to remake these profiles using the default profile. Hope this helps. regards
@@SimHangerFS Yes! I made a brand new profile and got it to work including throttle, prop, and mixture. Thanks!
@@andrewmorris3479 happy days 👍
Hello , Please can you explain the beggining of your control setting. Im missing the bit where you say you move the throttle filter to search how is this done? I payed £600 for my Quadrant and yoke and i have never been so dissapointed. Ive tried to slow the video down but i just cant follow exactly what you are showing. Sorry im quite new to Flight simming but i am an electronics engineer by hobby as well as an ex Military Special forces Commando. I say ex as Helmand province claimed my left leg. MSFS is amazing and takes me back to places i never thought i would fly over again. But it helps if you have suitable working flight hardware and software.Thank you, Great vid!!
The search function, on the left hand side of the MSFS controls option menu allows you to find things quicker by typing in a name etc, rather than scroll through hundreds of options. You can change the filter search options to all…assigned etc to make it easier to find .
Awesome, thank you! I should have mine February 15, 2021.
I’m sure you will not be disappointed 😁👍
Thanks, very useful, even though I am using the old Saitek equipment, and have the trouble of non display in my muti panel.
Do you use SPAD.Next? If so, make sure it's up to the latest version.
@@dabneyoffermein595 Using MSFS 2020 with the new driver desktop shortcut by Saitek, that's working everything but the display in the Multi Channel, I used to use Spad in MSFS X. I have had people reporting if I change from the Cessna 172 at try another aircraft that some times that starts the display in the muti panel working. Anyway thanks for the reminder.
Had mine on order since 19th Aug still no sign of delivery. Can’t come soon enough. Excellent video as always.
I was lucky enough to order one direct on the 23rd of December and it arrived January 7
Hope you get yours soon.
@@ShotInTheDark where did you order from?
@@1975Stevo direct from honeycomb, they sent an email out regarding a limited quantity from week five run
@@ShotInTheDark Same here ordered within 2 minutes after the email :)
Arriving monday.
I did order the bravo quadrant to match with my honeycomb yoke eta is 02/21 but I'll probably be April.also I logged in to msfs 2020 flew my Cessna 182 for a bit it is very smooth also I took off the landing assist off planes don't wander around anymore,but I still have unfinished business in prepard haven't fully used all the addons I paid for lol.
You and me both...so many P3D add ons !
Hi, Nice video! I wondered if you in the future would be kind enough to edit out the “mouse click” at the end of each voiceover? I don’t know if it’s just me, but I find it a bit annoying :)
Love your channel!
Thanks for your feedback and support. 👍 what mouse clicks? I will check my audio....just this video or others as well?
@@SimHangerFS Hi again.
I hear it almost every time after a sentence is done by voiceover. I believe this is when you press “stop recording”.
I’ve noticed it in a few videos, but it is indeed not in all :)
I hope you don’t take it in the wrong way, but I’m sure you don’t.
Again, many thanks for your hard work!
@@mattyflying5483 don’t mind at all....appreciate the feedback 😀
Thanks. Is the FCU and inc/dec knob functionality pre-programmed or do they have to be set in sim. Cheers.
Download the bravo driver from Honeycomb for MSFS and it is preprogrammed.
Mark, your videos are great, but you need to mic yourself better so you don't sound like you are in a tunnel. Audio in UA-cam video's a lot of time need to be leveled out and mixed a lot better. Thanks for all you do though. Just a thought.
Thank for your reply and help
The workaround I use for the hdg changing in 10 degree increments and vs/alt incrementing in 1000 ft increments is to use fsuipc. It only happens if you have a switch mapped in MSFS that is always on, like a toggle/rocker switch or even the mag switch on the Alpha I've heard. Hard to believe that bug is still around.
Thanks for the tip 😁
@Wealthy Wealthy They fixed that bug a long time ago, weird. FSUIPC is basically used for mapping controls outside of the flight sim and it gives a more options for things you can map. I don't use FSUIPC anymore since it came out of beta and you have to buy it and I didn't need it after they fixed the 10 degree bug. Although come to think of it when I tried a default plane awhile back it seemed to have that issue, but I never fly default planes since they are all completely broken now. I only fly the justflight pipers and they don't have that issue.
Hey Mark, I was hoping you'd reprise this video with the newest MSFS version. I just upgraded my hardware and I'm new to MSFS (used to use X-Plane) and I'm pulling my hair out trying to configure my Alpha, Bravo and older sytex rudder. I can't seem to get my flaps working for anything using the axis tools.
Hi there how do you map the throttles for the king air. I have the bravo throttle quadrant but can’t seem to go from idle to full power without it going into reverse in the idle position not in the reverse detent. Thank you.
FYI... pitot is pronounced 'pee-toe' - it's a French word (eponymous)
You seeing APU working? Haven’t got that LED to show up. How about the anti ice? I notice that the anti ice comes in when it’s off and visa versa? Seeing that also?
Haven’t tried the APU yet, the anti ice switch can be reversed so it operates as needed. Depends how you configure the switch. Regards
@@SimHangerFS Switch itself is binded correctly. I meant in the plane. For example I tried the Longitude. When I turn on Anti-Ice it stays on. When I turn it off it stays on as well. Using the Mouse, not the buttons. Only way to shut it off is if I turn on Pilot Heat.
Hello, Monieur
Can you give me a Honeycomb bravo trottle tutorial for an Airbs A320 thank you. I admire your videos but I can not find the video for the configuration of the trottle bravo for Airbus pending thank you and take care of yourself
I think I'm missing something. The video's tittle is 'LED LIGHTS Configuration Guide', and I see you install the driver (as I did myself, the AFC_Bridge folder is in the community folder), but then you're configuring levers and switches, but I didn't see anything about how you got the lights working. And I dont mean a specific light, but all the lights in general. I dont have any lights in any aircraft, so it must be turned on in some way, I assume. In the MSFS Content Manager, the AFC_Bridge folder is categorized as 'Not Installed', but I found that that's normal... I'm getting kinda stuck here...
The lights work providing you build your configs from the “ new” default config that has the lights now built in. Old configs need to be replaced unfortunately.
@@SimHangerFS I found the problem. From the video, I knew there was an exe-file in the folder, but Im not used to apps that need to be started, that the exe-file is 'hidden' behind so a long folder path, like this. But I have my light working. After starting the sim, I start AFC_Bridge and they work.
And my complements and appreciation for your videos. I find a lot of valuable info and you're a very good teacher. Im glad I found your channel.
Hi Mark. A little off topic but is there a fix for the annoying 10 degree HDG bug . I can't get the bug to do less than 10 degrees of heading change. Thanks.
Not yet I am afraid.....awaiting Asobo
@@SimHangerFS Ok, thanks Mark. Your videos are fantastic, please keep them coming!!!!!!
How about some lighting on the instrument pane..if it does have it,it’s to dim😏
🤭
Hi! Question: At 03:36 you say your "LED configuration was copied across to the props but not to the jets". How do you check this? Is part of the .json copied to the aircraft folders? Appreciate some guidance because now I have zero lights working on the Fenix (however they do work on any other) nor do any of the turn knobs work... Good job on the videos, great help!
The led activation data on driver load is only transferred to one profile. The issue with the Fenix is it uses non-standard commands for many actions so the default bravo functions don’t work unfortunately.
@@SimHangerFS So if I understand correctly (from your vid and feedback): I need to take a prop profile and copy that to a new A320 profile or just select my current a320 profile (based on a 2 engine jet) and then active the bridge? Sry for this line of questions, but currently lost on what to do (besides using spad.next).
several people have asked the question regarding you saying "3:36 I see that the LED config had copied to the props but not to the jets" but you haven't answered anyone's question on this from what I can tell. where do you see that the config has been copied to the props?
The led config is copied to the default profile only…which happens to be the twin prop config, as mentioned in the video. It is not copied to any other existing profile. All profiles should be created/build from this profile.
@@SimHangerFS i appreciate the response. your video makes it clear that it only affects the default profile, but the question that you repeatedly aren't answering is where are you SEEING this? " I see that the LED config had copied to the props but not to the jets". It's a moot point for me now as I've found another utility that works better, and again I appreciate the vid and response.
I cant get the ias to control the 747 throttle, it controls the display I can see the triangle but the throttle will not change. I'm having to manually use the throttle.
You need to activate auto throttle in the cockpit as well. Then it will work. Regards
Do you think it makes sense to buy Bravo when I'm only flying in VR ???
I ordered a Bravo throttle when I didn't have VR equipment yet, and now I'm thinking about canceling my Bravo purchase.
Is the quality of the throttle levers themselves better than the Saitek I still use?
Hello, the Honeycomb quality is significantly better than the Saitek quality, they use a harder plastic, better components etc. For VR, in my opinion, many of the features of the Bravo will not be accessible as you can't see the unit when flying. If your only flying VR then the Bravo is not recommended. Regards
@@SimHangerFS I know you also use VR. What throttle are you using if I may ask? What do you recommend ???
@@tombulva I use various options, depending on what I am flying, a toggle switch on my yoke, or just the mouse to move the throttles, for multi engine I use the bravo, but just for the throttles, not spoilers or mixture etc. Regards
@@SimHangerFS Thank you very much. Your movies are a real treasure trove of knowledge.
Done
I see the heading changes 10 degrees at a time? Does the Nav on VOR. Should be 1 degree at a time.
It’s a MSFS bug, not the BTQ config. Regards
I see that. I get mine today! I noticed in FS if you If you click you can get a degree but mouse wheel I get 10. Steam gauges are 10. I hope they fix that. I like flying direct VOR on Departure then transition to GPS. Enjoy your content. Long time simmer here. Since FS98 and Real Lic with Instrument Rating. Really Love pushing my IFR skills in FS. Thank you
Hi, this is probably a dumb question, but does the throttle quadrant need to be plugged in? I went to the download page and got drivers, but there was no text about "Enable LED lights." Thanks. Update: Even plugged in, I didn't get that text. Maybe it is all inclusive now.
The throttle quad must be plugged in to the yoke to work. Lights are not yet configurable….currently in Beta test.
@@SimHangerFS Thank you for answering, but I don't think you can plug the throttle quadrant into the yoke. They have to be plugged into the computer separately unless I completely messed up my installation. This is the first civilian yoke and throttle I've used. I was using an X-56 before.
@@crawl3ysnipe sorry, my error….thinking of the VelocityOne….with the Bravo there is no separate configurator. The config for the lights are installed into the Bravo default profile. All profiles must be built from this profile. Apologies again
Hi Mark, I followed your instructions correctly but the LED light won't come out. I installed MSFS in different hard drive, would that's the problem?
One last question. How does it work with the TBM? I know I had to do the tweek with my Logitech using FSUIPC 7 which works pretty good.
Works great with the TBM 😁
See ua-cam.com/video/eUnhOorKSH8/v-deo.html
Here a question: when setup honeycomb hardware do you have to select the type of aircraft you setup
You need to create a separate profile for different configurations ...eg twin engine prop, single prop, twin jet etc. Regards
Rmag has UA-cam videos on how setup Bravo for each aircraft type as well as videos for fixing the bugs
@@peterferguson5705 thanks I will take a look. I will be doing config Vid for both prop and airliners soon. Stay safe.
But when u turn the pc off and turn it back on and go into MSFS for a flight the lights wont turn on, how to fix???
The installed driver should be in your community folder. AFC_Bridge.
@@SimHangerFS wdym by that i have downloaded and then it is fine but after another flight the lights do not work after than until i install it again
@@Mista_Spicy check the file is in your community folder. Also this file only loads if the bravo is connected before the sim starts.
Mark - I downloaded the drivers however it shows in my my content manager as "uninstalled". When I select it I'm not given any option to install. It's located in the community folder as you show in your video...any suggestions? Even when I click on the executable it appears like it's installed...but no lights and still showing as "uninstalled" in content manager.
It's seems to have become a status quo that companies/developers will release a half-baked version of whatever it is they are involved in, use the community as a large beta group and then incrementally update said product.
Why? I understand that nothing is perfect first time around but basic bugs such as No2 throttle inop in a driver specifically released for twin engine aircraft makes no sense whatsoever.
I can’t argue with you on that point. Frustrating.
How do I connect it to my Xbox through the hub WITHOUT the alpha yoke
I love your video's and the info that they give me, how to fly my plane in a better way in MSFS2020, using the best controls, and showing me what controls are out there. But your voice-over sound you are putting out there, is not up to par... The acoustics on your voice, sound like you spoke into a really big iron bucket. So, that could be improved. As I am an audio engineer and also an audio teacher in Belgium, I would like to make some suggestions, regarding vocal recordings on your channel. Hit me up, if you want to make some adjustments to your channel. Love, M.
Could you guys do a video on a little C+ coding so I could get the rest of the switches to work on the Bravo throttle since they cause a game breaking bug that won't allow you to select precise headings, altitudes, vor settings, radio settings etc.? Thanks : )
Hi, this is a MSFS bug, hopefully they will sort this in the not too distant future. Regards
How do I make the leds work in the aircraft they are not showing, do I have to copy the lines from the JSON file, I am not sure how to get them working?
The led lights are configured to the default profile only...and this should now be twin engine GA. Best method is to then delete any other profiles and recreate new ones from the default profile and this will carry the led lights across.
So there is no longer an "Enable LED Lights" download option on their website. Is there a different work around now? I have downloaded the most current driver from them and I still have no LED lights
When I look in the config json file, I don't even see anything obvious that would turn on the master caution or master warning lights, have you seen these to be functional?
Maybe you can help, since update to update 5. Under Microsoft flight simulator update section it’s show that honeycomb AFC bridge not install but no download and install button. Plus I have download and install the AFC bride from honeycomb site.
yeah seems like asobo broke another thing. I've tried it Today with new bravo and beside all controls being badly assigned, leds are not working (with installed plugin for fs2020) and creating new profile just deleted all assignments... Sometimes during savings changes it will just crash to desktop.... :/ Works fine on XPlane 11...
But nobody seems to have a tutorial on the A320NX Fly-By-Wire? Can't get my Auto-Pilot light on yet, the 'AP1' comes on the cockpit 'dashboard'. Also the Heading is not shown 'on' on the dashboard.
The FBW uses some bespoke assignments for bindings that are different to the default.
Still cannot get the AutoPilot to work properly in the A320 Fly-By-Wire. The glass cockpit shows autopilot on -AP1- and so is the HDG. I cannot get the AutoPilot master button to light up. And as for the Altitude, I can't get that to work. I have the latest drivers from Aerosoft for 'AFC Bridge'.
The FBW mod uses some bespoke, non-standard mappings. That is why your having difficulty with config. No solution that I have found without third party apps.
Don't I still need to click the bridge. Exe to get the lights working
Run the install once and your done.
@@SimHangerFS ok thank you so much
question please, there is something wrong in my msfs2020 when i dial the heading knob, the course also move simultanously, how do i fix it? i deleted and reinstalled the game, even without the bravo quadrant connected it does it. how do I fix it?? thnx for help, can't find anything online that helped me overcome the problem
This video didn’t help me at all with getting the lights to work, anyone recommend a better video for lights ? Thanks
Hi Marc, have you tried an ILS approach with the Mooney M20R? I can’t get it to capture the glide slope for some reason. It works fine in the older 172, and I’d think that they would be the same. 🤷♂️
Hi Jason, no I haven’t got this aircraft, might be a bespoke function? Regards
@@SimHangerFS I actually got it to work loading the approach into the gns530 instead of using the world map. Go figure
I just got the alpha and bravo today this stuff is just way too confusing for me
I'm waiting, like many, for my Throttle. Will the drivers help with my Alpha Yoke? The lights don't all map in light GA aircraft. Just a few work right now.
No the drivers will not have any impact on the Alpha yoke. Regards
I installed the Bravo Throttle quadrant LED LIGHT but no light come out. Check on Control, every work fine. Please tell me what's the problem ?
The Bravo settings will only initially be installed in the default profile. Others may need to be recreated. Check if working in default. Regards
Hoenycomb throttle with good quality but is the most annoying system and hard to set up ! Need someone help me out here, MFS does not recolonise any my throttle, pitch and mixture in the control setting.
How should my fix it? My version is 1.14.5.0
All axis need to be configured in the sim. Check out my channel I have done set up guides for props and jets to help you.
@@SimHangerFS thank you for your reply.
I meant when I was trying to set up the control in the sim, it recognised all the button except the throttle, pitch and mixture. Have no idea why !
@@HaNguyen-ox6zl , hi hopefully this may help ua-cam.com/video/MjovDdueafI/v-deo.html
@@SimHangerFS thank you for that
How do I get the darn throttle to stop going up/down in increments of 10 for IAS and HDG and 1,000’s for ALT? It’s so frustrating man. It shouldn’t be this hard. Is there a fix for this? Even when using the on screen knobs with the mouse, it only goes up or down by 10’s/1,000’s when the throttle is plugged in.
Next update I am believe.....it is such a pain I am frustrated they haven't fixed this basic issue yet.
@@SimHangerFS I can’t get the knob on screen by scrolling with the mouse either to work correctly. It has to do with the binding of the lights switches from what I’ve been told, however I unblinded every button including all the knobs and buttons up top with just the throttles, flap, spoilers, gear and still get the issue. Someone told me to go look into FS Tool over on flightsim.to They said it gets it to work perfectly. Gonna try today. Have you heard of it?
@@gregthegroove have you checked the bindings for the mouse. It’s function is not linked to the switches in any way as far as I am aware. I’ve not heard of the app you mention. The 10’s/1000 problem is coded into the sim so will appear regardless of what you use. There are a few hacks out there to resolve the problem, but they are only a temporary solution. Regards
@@SimHangerFS what bindings for the mouse that would have an effect on the throttle that I should be looking for that shouldn’t be there? Can you help me understand so that I can go look around? Thnnx
@@gregthegroove Hello, I'm not sure I understand what your asking. You can move dials in the cockpit by using the center wheel on the move. It does not support changing the settings (ie heading) by dragging left of right like Xplane.
Do these changes / configurations work for the NEO 320 AIRBUS mod ? SUBSCRIBED and Liked
Depends on what mod, but yes autopilot works fine. Regards
@@SimHangerFS The Fly-By_Wire all encompassing mod
@@dabneyoffermein595 yes it does, although I did have a problem with Nav/App/ILS mode, but not sure if it was the config or more likely it was an error on my part.
Hi Mark, how can I set up NAVIGATION button in Honeycomb Quadrant, the NAV light never come out, just HEADING light on. Thanks
Hi, the aircraft your flying will need to have nav/gps equipment. Selection is either hdg or nav. Nav is enabled by default so should work. Regards
Hi Mark.
How can I enable bravo TQ lights on XBOX? (I know Bravo TQ is to be connected to XPC yoke via honeycomb HUB), or is it automatically enabled?
My hub arrives tomorrow😁
No lights on Xbox at this time unfortunately.
Helo, i have a problem with the CRS buton 18, i can't change the NAV rate. Probably i am in the wrong setting.
The crs button is the vs button. It works when the selector dial is set to vs
FYI, the LED driver download from Aerosoft/Honeycomb will only work if you purchased MSFS2020 from xBox/Microsoft. I purchased my version through Valve/Steam. When I ran the install .exe file, it failed because it could not find the folder stream that Steam created to install and run the program. I would be interested if others out there have experience the same issue and if there is a fix for this. The folders it was looking for under Packages are Community and Official, whatever those are. Can I just create them and run the .exe again, and hope the drivers install properly?
There is no config app for MSFS as there is for p3d and Xplane. It should load directly into MSFS controls. Regards
Thanks for the reply. This is something the Aerosoft or Honeycomb needs to fix asap. Their .exe program, unlike every other install program I have run during the last 20 years, doesn't allow you to change the load path, it is apparently hard-coded and can't be modified. Terrible, lazy programming on their part IMO. As an experiment, I created the Community and Official folders it couldn't find so they would exist and ran the .exe again. Guess what, it ran successfully to completion this time (no run time error) but since the drivers are not in the place Steam loaded MSFS to, the led lights on the throittle quadrant still don't work. Steam puts their version under a "Roaming" folder, whereas Aerosoft puts them under the "Local" folder. Until they change the config to allow me to change it to where I want it to be, i.e. "Roaming", the driver(s) will never be installed where they need to be.
It's been a long wait to get my throttle quadrant and the first setup video I watched is this one. Unfortunately, the link to download the software is not working. That is the link is good but once you get to the honeycomb page the download link does nothing.
Hi Mark, If the link does not work right click on the link and select download in separate window or incognito....this will work. Regards
@@SimHangerFS That worked, thanks!
I downloded mine and install light still wont on
I can’t get Bravo led lights working with Fenix a320 but they work with the sim default a320,any ideas how to fix
The Fenix uses non default simconnect calls so some functionality is lost as the bravo lights config is set up for default (standard calls).
Hello, could you please help me know why even with autopilot all aircraft in MSFS2020 on a cruise flight my plane flight straight but banked to the left or right. Is there something to be configured ? Thanks in advance!
When you press autopilot the aircraft will react to whatever the autopilot settings are. Often it will default to heading mode for example...so the aircraft will turn to the set heading. Press heading button and it will turn heading mode off etc. There is also Nav mode (GPS). The other possibility is that you have two bindings set to a button or axis. So you are pressing a button or moving an axis and it is also moving the ailerons as well causing the aircraft to bank. Check all your bindings in the control section. Regards
how do I clear all my wrong inputs on my honeycombe throttle quadrant
Search by named function and delete entries
that voice.... do you do canel boat videos as well?
How are you supposed to download the areosoft honeycomb setup. The site does not let you
I know it’s weird….right click on download and select incognito….then it downloads.
Next time you are demonstrating setups, try and go a bit faster with your mouse, it really helps with novices!
Ouch!
@@SimHangerFS Sorry! Just frustration, you do a great job!
Cannot get the LEDs to light up at all. Is it me?
Justin, run the config from desktop. Check if it has loaded by checking your community folder....it should show afc bridge. In sim the only config that will have the LED and button config will be the DEFAULT profile. Build new profile from this using duplicate etc.
my bravo won't save new bindings, it kept going back to default. Help please.
Reinstall honeycomb driver. Make sure you rename and save and apply any changes. If your on beta then it may be related to that?
@@SimHangerFS I opted out of beta and reinstalled the msfs when this happened. It was fine in beta. I have reinstalled the driver 3 times and same result. I might’ve to try-install msfs again.
Non of my led lights work despite installing the drivers
So I managed to get the other lights working except the fcu/ autopilot lights
Please, what is "pit tot heat"? 😛