How to set up Autopilot Panel on the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- In this video I give a brief how-to on the autopilot panel for the honeycomb bravo throttle in MSFS2020. You can bind any button to any AP function really, but I showed you what I personally have programmed and the methods to do so. If you have any questions comment below. If you want LED functions, be sure to check out my previous video.
00:00 intro
00:30 setting up left dial
03:15 setting up right dial
08:30 setting up the buttons
10:01 test in game
For MSFS users - the CRS command in the controls screen is "VOR OBS". Set your CRS knob to that, and you'll be able to adjust it.
First you got my Bravo’s lights to turn on. Now you got the AP panel to work. You have been more helpful than Honeycomb and MSFS combined. And for that, you have earned a new subscriber! Thank you!
I'm glad to hear that I helped you! And thank you for the subscribe, means a lot!
And how did u get light working ?
Just bought the Alpha and Bravo. I knew I'd be needing to do something like this. You sir have just reduced my stress level by 500%! I'm going to sleep well tonight, thank you. 😎
Bro. My lights now work and my autopilot works. You’re the hero
Glad I could be of help!
The best guide for setting up the Honeycomb Quadrant. Invaluable and very easy to follow directions.
Thank you. That will be very helpful when Bravo finally arrives. Left to my own devices, I can imagine the trouble I would have had trying to sort it out.
Thank you so much. I have just ordered the honeycomb units as an upgrade to the V1 and I am so excited to get started
Mate, you're a champion for taking the time to do this tutorial. Saved a lot of headache.
Thank you!
Thank you for an excellent presentation on how to set up the Bravo Throttle Quadrant using MSFS. I learned a lot from this and will put it to good use.
Glad I could help!
Thank you for sharing this! I used your method to also set it for my TCA Boeing quadrant and it works too.
Man you are friggin awesome, great video mate, definitely a subscriber, keep us not so bright people informed.
Happy to help!
Thank for the awesome video, It helped me out a lot. Happy flying.👍
Excellent video and extremely helpful! Many thanks from another newly dedicated subscriber!!!
Thanks just got mine quadrant throller too amazing love it!!
Thank you for taking what was suppose to be a simple change from MSFS to the introduction of 2020 and the Honeycomb products, which for the average simmer put us in a place that was changing from day to day. Honeycomb did nothing to help with their products, and finally the WallyRod Aviation video help so many of the flight simulator dedicated fans.
I'm glad I could be of help!
Absolutely brilliant! Now I just need to sort out toggling between cockpit and external view!
Thank you so much. Can't believe these things dont work out of the box
Awesome tutorial !!! I've been trying to find out how to get those buttons to work! Thanks
Subscribed :D
Thank you for the instructions, this was extremely helpful. Well done!
Thank you!
Thanks for your clearly instruction. You are the best.
Thank You, I got my Throttle the first week and I was lost cause I couldn’t configured them properly. My lights were off and was waiting for a video like this one. Your videos are very helpful. Thank You 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hi, I have an error when I started to assign the INDEX to the buttons. “ YOU ARE TRYING TO ASSIGN AN ACTION TO A DEVICE THAT IS NOT SELECTED” . I downloaded the drivers from Aerosoft and the lights are on but when I try to edit on a new profile is not letting me do it. Any advice?? Thanks in advance.
Sorry for the previous message, I was editing on the wrong Device. I had it on the Alpha flight control instead on the Bravo Throttle Quadrant. 😜🤪
DUDE THANK YOU SO MUCH - FINALLY WORKING SOLUTIONS. this is worthy of all the views my dude - thank you!!
No problem, I'm happy to help!
@@wallyrodaviation now - up to them to fix the increments on the knobs for the VS, HDG, and ALT then we’d be cooking with oil!
I don't have The Bravo yet but I'll be sure to bookmark this video. Thank you kindly! :)
Your welcome!
YOU are the MAN! Thank you! Sharing this!
Thank you, glad I could help!
Thank You That Was Very Clear And precise
Excellent video. Thank you for your great tutorial.
No problem, happy to help
Excellent and informative video!! Thank you!
Thank you!
Thanks man , you made my life easier!
Glad I could help!
Awesome!!! Thank you for this!!
Your beyond awesome for this
youndeserve a medal man! Bravo!
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
Hi, just got the Honeycomb Quadrant 2 days ago and if was not for your excellent video I was about to return it.Thank you. The Honeycomb has no instruction whatsoever about how to set it up. They own you a lot of money for teaching us how to put their product to work. BRILLIANT.
Thank you, I'm glad I was of help!
Did you start the setup copying the default profile ? or did you create a new blank profile and create your settings ? Thanks
@@marcosa995 I decided to make a new blank profile so no binds could interfere
HI, when we set ip up does it matter if the bottoms have to be in the right order or inverse (ie, 21 +13 ) or (13 + 21 ). ?
@@marcosa995 no, as long as the combination is there, it should work
Great video thanks!
Wow! Big help. 👍😊
Un grand MERCI ! Heureusement que vous partagez cette information que je ne vais pas hésiter à transmettre. Juste une interrogation, il doit bien exister un fichier de configuration quelque part et peut-être serait-il intéressant de le consulter et même de faire les commandes directement dedans. Merci encore.
this really helped
A challenge would be how to toggle the starter on AND off on the cj4.. tried but failed. It will only turn it on but not off, same with run engine... but this tutorial is awesome, helped a lot on the AP set up
Thanks you very, I got my bravo since almost two weeks and was ashamed that I can’t use half of it !
Glad I could help!
Thanks for this video. Everything works on your steps in which I used for the Cessna C172 G100 (Default MSFS 2020 model). But I am not sure if the G1000 in real life uses IAS, or if its not simulated yet for the G1000 in game. But ALT, VS, GDG works as I only did a short VFR flight. I did open a ticket with Honeycomb about the annunciator light panel download as the lights dont work.
No problem!
your amazing
CRS is “course” which selects the VOR radial or nav course on the CDI / HSI.
Ah thank you, I'll make sure to bind it
@@wallyrodaviation which option did you bind it to? I see 3 options for course
@@MizaProductions1 Off the top of my head I believe it was something to do with "Index"
CRS is the course can be assigned to VOR 1 OBS Decrease and Increase
That’s correct it’s course
thanks man! you are the saviour!
the ALT combo isnt working on mine, CRJ asft hmm
You do great instructional videos. I don’t have my bravo yet, but it has been shipped. I’ll be using this video to help me program my bravo. I appreciate you doing this video for us as I know it took a lot of time to do. Have you programmed your trust, flaps, trim, landing gear yet?
Yes I have those programmed and will be tomorrow's video. It will go over the gear, trim wheel, thrust and reversers.
Bravo! thx
No problem!
감사합니다 ^^
CRS = Course used to select the course for GPS or VOR. REV is a Back Course Approach. You'll nver use it. Bind it to FD Flight Director Toggle. to turn on and off the Flight Director. CRS you could use to set the Decision Height.
Wow, I am so nervously waiting for honeycomb to deliver their products that i am already looking up tutorials
Me Too !!lol
about to have to send my 2nd yoke back to their factory in CA and wait forever for a replacement. It's getting really old.
This video really helped me! Can you make a video on the same thing but for xp11 and xp12
I’ll see if I can get to it 👍🏻
You can bind CRS to VOR OBS.
CRS you have to bind it to VOR OBS
REV is Back course
Hi, I went thru and using what you explained tried to set up Auto Pilot. It helped me get the altitude and heading are working, but the vs, nav, and ias are still not working. Also some of the options that you show that were in the Auto Pilot were not in the same spots but in different locations, like the index's are not in the Auto Pilot setting but are by themselves separately from auto pilot.
Excellent video thanks. If I already have a few profiles set up, do I have to do this for each one?
Yes, sadly, I do believe you can make copies however and just assign your throttle axis (s) for each one
Hello again, could you do a similar video as this one but for the autopilot in the Classic 172 that has the G530?
Things have changed drastically for bindings. Can you update this for the SU 5
Really enjoyed your video, and I have subscribed to your channel. My Bravo is on a FedEx plane somewhere between Hong Kong and my home, so your videos should come in very handy when I start configuring. I do, however, have one question ... did you bind the auto pilot's altitude knob's push/pull function to anything on the Bravo. In the A320 when you dial in a new altitude, you have to PUSH the button to set the new altitude in managed mode, and you PULL to set a new un-managed altitude.
Thanks man, I appreciate it! I did not actually bind the push/pull function to anything, although it seems to be okay without it
@@wallyrodaviation Do you use your mouse to push/pull the knob then? Arrow UP is a PUSH and arrow DOWN is a PULL
@@richardsauerbrun2412 Yes normally I use my mouse since I have a wireless mouse
CRS is the course. Heading has to be adjusted to maintain the proper course. If you had a 20 knot cross wind at altitude, your heading would had to be adjusted to stay on CRS.
if you have to combine the, for example, heading setting on the left knob with the heading bug increase/decrease on the right knob, why do you have to bind the left knob on its own?
Nice video. I hope it will works with Fenix Airbus A320
Much appreciated, it should theoretically work, however when It comes to the “managed” and “select” modes (push, pull) it may require some additional work arounds
@@wallyrodaviation to be honest I cant even set up flaps with Fenix A320. I choose Flaps Axis and also 0-100% Flaps Axis and ih have no reaction in cockpit 🤷♂️
Hello, I still can't get the autopilot to work when adjusting/changing the VS.
Could my problem be in the sequence I press the buttons or turn the knobs?
My focus is right now is just to get this working in the Cessna172/G530.
I hope you can post more videos on the Honeycomb products. They really help.
77yo putz.
I would double check that you are using a clean profile and also that the sequence of buttons (dials) pushed is correct
Awesome video. Question. When I use the honeycomb knobs to turn alt/HDG/ias, it only goes up and down in 10’s and not 1’s. I believe the ALT only goes up and down by 1,000’s. Does this happen with you as well? Is there a fix for this? Are you familiar with this issue?
Yes it happens to me as well. To my knowledge there is no fix until MSFS makes one.
What is CRS in autopilot?
The CRS knob sets the course for a VOR radial or LOC course.
CRS is Course. It sets the course for the number 1 Nav
hallo, does the configuration works with TBM 930, CJ4 and Cessna longitude? wonderful tutorial
Hello and thank you, the CJ4 and longitude should definitely work, for the TBM I am not sure however
First thanks so much for this video
Thanks from the UK for the great video! I don't even have the Honeycomb yet but I'm sure this is hugely helpful to a lot of people. I know that it will help me out ALOT! Just one thing, are either of the rotary knobs able to be pushed in like a button? Because in the A320, once you set your altitude or heading etc. you then need to either push or pull the knob in the simulator to activate your selection. How is this done on the Bravo quadrant? eg. When you set an altitude in the A320, how do you arm/activate your selection so that the aircraft moves to that altitude? And how do you use both altitude modes on the A320 with the quadrant? i.e. 'Managed Altitude' and 'Selected Altitude' mode?
Thanks! :D
Thank you! So on the Bravo the knobs dont push/pull, for the a320 I use a switch to switch between managed and selected modes
Thank you for your video teaching. It is very helpful.
Currently, I am playing fs in xbox. I just have turtle beach stick. I am now thinking to buy honeycomb throttle quadrant. My question is this combination works, turtle beach stick plus honeycomb quadrant? I find some manual telling the honeycomb quadrant connecting to honeycomb yoke which is then connecting xbox.
Thank you for the information. Most helpful. By The Way, how do I get the lights to turn on? Thanks! Rich J
In order for the lights to be operational, there must be a plugin installed. On my channel I have a video showing how to do so if it helps. cheers!
the knob on the right doesnt work like that anymore because it auto binds the right knob to Plus and munis you MUST unbind them first! also is tghere a way to make it so that the heading changes 1 at a time INSTEAD of 10 at a time?
Hey mate crs is your track basically the direction your plane would head on a map this is different to your heading due to things like magnetic deviation and wind vectors.
could you bind that to set heading indicator drift perhaps?
is this all still correct in 2023? I know with driver updates it may already work out of the box. I am picking this honeycomb alpha and bravo combo up for my sim.
Followed all of your instructions and everything seems to work except for the IAS button which you advised to bind to 7 which I did. The IAS button will not function unless I first hit the FNC button on the screen and then the IAS button lights up and I am able to increase or decrease knots to the value I need. This doesn't seem right as the buttons and dials in the Bravo Quadrant are supposed to circumvent screen inputs. Would appreciate your advice.
Thank you but wont work for me, all it changes is my heading or VS, at least in a Cessna
Edit - may just a an issue with the WB Sim 172 as otherwise works great in hindsight
Edit 2 - also works with the G1000 setup ☺️
Great video, really helpful 😀
Thanks, great help............just the AP Toggle does not work in the B787........anyway good job
Thank you for this video, it works well. However, when I increase or decrease sim rate.. the increase or decrease knob on the right acts as a sim rate + or -. Help
Hmmm, if you are talking about the Vertical Speed not working, make sure you press the VS button to engage Vertical Speed
CRS is course when using VOR or ILS but I cant see any place to bind that to in MSFS
Hello, i don't have the option "slot index". How should i do it then? Sincereley, Walter
My best recommendation is to double check, if still nothing it could be corrupt game files of it could just need an update. The function of the index is to select the mode to adjust, so anything related to that mode, and adjusting, should work
Thanks for this video
A couple of questions
What is the index bind do?
Wouldn't just just binding the two keys together adjust the settings anyway!
As the the left rotary button is an "always on" bind (I can see this at 3:32 as the Altitude slot index is permanently highlighted whilst it's in that position) does this cause the heading bug increment issues when mouse wheeling the heading bug in the C152 etc?
The index bind is basically for the left knob, it just allows you to, in conjunction with the right knob, adjust ALT, VS, HDG, etc. For the second question I think you are asking if when ALT is selected on the left knob, and you wish to adjust HDG with your mouse, will there be issues, the answer is no, there will not be any issues and it should work as normal.
@@wallyrodaviation I think you may find that if you load the Cessna 152 and try to rotate the heading bug with you mouse wheel it will go up in 10 degrees
I have the Honeycomb yoke and if I have any of the five light switches or the master or avionics or the engine start switches bound the heading bug dial in the Cessna will only mouse wheel dial in 10 degree increments
If you have time hop in the Cessna and try turning the heading dial bug with your mouse and see if you can increase/decrease in 1 degree increments . I'm extremely curious to see if you don't have the problem and if so trying to figure out why I do!
@@noisecraftstudio5817 YEP, there must be a bug
@@noisecraftstudio5817 I think I saw a video where the uploader had traced it to a bug in the simulator... I believe the description was, imagine on keyboard if you hold the key for increase thrust for example it will "repeat" to keep increasing, holding a heading increase will on repeat increase by 10s instead of 1s (after a while), and the problem is ANY held on/off control puts the simulator into "repeat input mode"... so that nice rotary switch on the left which holds an input will trigger the simulator bug all the time... something like that... see also forums.flightsimulator.com/t/honeycomb-aeronautical-partnership-please-fix-input-bugs/328899
The default keybinds use indexes like you setup for the left knob but use ‘min/max’ keybinds for the right knob. Did you see any functionality difference compared to the button combos you suggest?
In the default config some of the functions didn't work, but after I programmed them the worked either better or just worked period.
Ok mine worked with the defaults but I tried some of your key binds and they worked good too. Curios what didn’t work etc.
@@RMAG For me it was the speed and VS that didn't work, maybe it was the plane IDK
Ok I tested the default config vs yours some more. Essentially VS and IAS are mutually exclusive. You can only use one at a time. VS is to climb or descend to a specified altitude via a set vertical speed. IAS is to climb or descend to a specified altitude via a set airspeed. You can choose one but not both. The default binding causes VS to be selected while it is being set, and when you turn the left knob off the VS, it deselects VS. So you have to arm it again by hitting the VS button. While this works, it’s clunky. IAS works by default opposite, you have to select the IAS button in order to bring it up and set it. And once it’s set it remains armed. Unless your move the right knob onto, or past VS, VS gets armed and IAS disarmed.
With your bindings altitude and heading work the same. IAS works the same as default, the big difference is your bindings for VS gets rid of it automatically arming or disarming VS to set it.
Your handling of VS in my opinion is superior to the defaults.
BTW the bindings for your setup for CRS is left knob CRS selection set to VOR OBS. Then to adjust you want to do your button Combo of Button 18 (the CRS index) + MINUS to decrease the course selection and Combo of button 18 and PLUS to increase the course selection. PLUS and MINUS are found in the Miscellaneous section.
Finally... to have the default autopilot keybindings work the way you did yours without much effort, all you need to do is delete the keybind for Button 20 on “set autopilot VS hold”. Then you just need to manually select VS like your bindings to change it.
@@RMAG someone may have done a video on that
Is it possible that you post a global table of yours settings i have trouble with my msfs settings installed in french and menu are very charged
All my settings are in the videos on my channel, those should be able to guide you
Greetings from Grand Rapids, MI sir. Just came across this video today. Purchased the Alpha and Bravo just last week and am having a terrible time trying to program it into X-Plane. Q: Might you have any recommendations and/or solutions? Appreciate your thoughts! Randy
Yes of course, firstly I must know what aircraft you are programming it for?
@@wallyrodaviation Hi friend and thank you for your reply. Actually, I just sent you an email this morning. May be a better way to communicate (?) Aircraft?...two primary - X-Plane 12 Beech Baron and C-172. Will give you some more confidential information I have re: "Profiles" in a future email.
Could you direct me to the LED lights video. Ever since the #5 update, I can’t get the lights to come on. Thank you
sure thing, make sure that you uninstall any honeycomb software before starting over with the process. ua-cam.com/video/5A5IChtGlyI/v-deo.html
Hi! I am flying with the Fenix A320 and in the Sim (MSFS2020) all buttons are reacting. But not in the Cockpit of the Fenix A320. Any idea? Thank you for the video! :D
Sadly I am not too familiar with the fenix A320, it could be that it is setup to read configs differently than the stock aircraft, or it could be that there needs to be a fenix specific plugin.
Is it correct that this does not work for the Fenix airbus?
Oh man, this works for me in planes with G1000 but it does not work for the BN2 Islander (Bendixking KAP140 autopilot) :(
Hey! Awesome video! I do have question though. How do i stop using the mouse to pull/push de Heading/Speed/VS ? Since sometimes I just want to go back to letting the plane fly by itself
Hi, thank you! Are you referring to the A320 and its FCU push/pull managed/select? or are you referring to an autopilot disengage?
@@wallyrodaviation yes exactly! I would like to map the a "push altitude" binding, to start the descent/ ascend to the selected altitude for example. Or a pull binding for the HDG, to go back to normal navigation.
Do you know how can I do that? Or is not possible?
@@niko74481 hmmm it might not be possible, i haven't gone too in depth into the push pull features, if there is an option in the bind settings, the best bet would be to use the switch panel on the throttle itself. Again, however, i'm not sure if this is possible
Can you use Heading button to turn on/off managed heading on the A320?
I have not tried yet, but you may be able to fashion something up
When this unit was released it had a bug in MSFS so it made it impossible to change the altitude in less than 1000 feet increments and heading could only change 10° steps not less. Looks in the video it is fixed or are you using some software to fix it?
Yes this issue was quickly resolved, however even now it may be changed slightly. But no, no additional software was used
HI ,Thank you for this great tutorial .
When I am trying to assign a key combination between the left dial and the right one ( decrease/increase ap ref altitude) it allows me to put the combination but it doesnt let me confirm it. This is the message that i get : You are trying to assign an action to a device that is not selected. However , everything is recognized separately .
Have you faced this before ?
The only thing I could think of is to double-check your bravo is the selected device on the top menu bar when your in the controls menu.
@@wallyrodaviation Hey , I was able to figure it out. For some reason it throws that message but when I hit Validate it appears recorded.
How were you able to change the increment in altitude in 100s instead of 1000s ?
Hopefully they come up with an update fixing all these bugs soon .
Can someone verify if the nav button is correct? It does stay on the GPS track when it pressed.
The A320 requires you to pull the knob to activate the altitude change in flight. How is that done?
I would recommend to bind that function to a button or a switch
First of all, thanks for the Video. But I have massive problems with the Autopilot functions. When I turn the Selectbutton between IAS, VS, HDG, CRS and ALT, the autopilot functions are switched off or on without the need for me to do so. Example: Turn the selection switch from ALT to IAS. ALT goes out, VS becomes active HDG switch so CRS. I then adjust the speed. Turn the Selectbutton back to ALT. IAS goes off HDG goes on VS turns off again and ALT goes on again. I don't know what to do anymore. Do you have a tip?
Well, when you switch to VS, ALT will turn off because your no longer holding altitude. IAS is usually for changing level or speed, If you are the selected altitude, EX you put 10,000 into the autopilot, VS will no longer be on. Depending on if you have conflicting button binds and the type of the plane, you may have issues. I'd suggest to start a whole new profile and start from scratch.
@@wallyrodaviation I have beginn from Scratch. Now i dont Push the Button VS. in ALT. I use the Scrollbutton on the Left to Change other Settings like IAS. You now what i mean? Okay You have Buttons for HDG, NAV, APR, REV, ALT, VS, IAS and the big square AP Masterbutton. Now I aktivate AP, ALT and IAS. I want change the Speed from 250 to 200 Knots. I Turn the Selectbutton on the very left Side. This is only a Selectbutton to enter new values. But i dont switch the AP from ALT hold to VS (pushbuttons) But the AP switch off ALT, Switch on VS and other Gosthinputs will do.
This is a bug. Check out RMAG's channel for a good explanation - ua-cam.com/video/bJSBxbmC3Eo/v-deo.html
i want to program my auto pilot but it says this is used already somewhere else can i bind it anyway?
Yes it should still work, however I recommend finding what that is just to avoid future confusion
Is there a reason when I press HDG and the other toggle buttons it doesn't turn off on?
It could depend on the aircraft you are using, MSFS has changed a bit since I made this video, so it could be programmed differently
@@wallyrodaviationyeah that makes sense thank you
I tried you settings but they didn't work for me. My question is did you figure out how to program all the buttons? I have ALT, VS and HDG all good; however CAS and IAS still elude me.
CAS I have binded to a custom bind, as for IAS I have it binded to my managed speed
is there something special for the lights to work? I downloaded the MSFS files from aerosoft but they're still off
What platform did you purchase MSFS from, steam or the Microsoft store? If it was the Microsoft store you may have to launch the application in order to get the LEDs to come on.
Aerosoft JUST released an update today (Dec. 22/23 2020) that fixes it. Download it from their hardware page and it will work.
The dials are not working for me when I attempt to set up my throttle this way. I followed the steps exactly as you described but when I go to increase my altitude, it also increases everything else. Any ideas?
I would go back and re-try the process with a clean profile. If that still doesnt work I would make sure that both buttons are lighting up the box at the same time ensuring their register
Not working for FENIX A320. In Cessna Analog Caravan you can not increase decrease VS
Is this pretty much the same process for X-plane 11 ,
After set up NAV1 button but it doesn't work, no light came out, just heading LED light permanent out. Please help.
Depending on which aircraft you use, it may not come on. I would test it out in the 747, as it turns on in there.
How do I add this set up for Airbus A320 control ?
In MSFS it's is a little tricky, since MSFS doesn't have the ability to bind certain things, but generally speaking, the way in the video should work.