Why do humans go to war?
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A big question: what is it about humans that causes them to end up fighting each other? What is the real motivation for a young man to join up?
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Old joke:
Some French knights were snickering at a passing group of Swiss mercenaries.
French knight: "Look at them! They fight for _silver,_ while we fight for honor and manhood!"
Swiss mercenary: "Every man fights for what he needs most."
Ha i know the exact same but the french knights are british sailors and swiss french sailors, for XIXth ^^
it makes more sense with the first one tho
OOF
Murdered by words.
Isn't that also in lawrence of arabia
That's a nice quote, shame for you that indeed, it's actually attributed to Surcouf, a french corsair of the napoleonic era. So maybe learn some french history instead of deriding them...?
"In your 20's, you're establishing a reputation. And if you DON'T establish a reputation as a man in your 20's, you're probably never gonna breed."
bruh... calling me out in public like that... :(
I'm in this picture and I don't like it!
Brb, going off to war so I can have kids
He said "In the Environment Of Evolutionary Adaptation"
This still apply like this loosely today, but are much more interwoven and complex.
Don't not make good for yourself, just don't kill yourself to make yourself better.
If you say bruh... you're probably not going to breed... but if you do there will be drugs involved.
@@darrinsiberia Are you 90?
“As long as there are 2 people left on the earth, someone is gonna want someone dead”
-sniper
"Piss m8!"
Even if there's just one left, chances are about 1/250 at some point someone will still want someone dead.
*magnum force starts playing*
respawn
@@junoguten simultaneously the funniest addition to the quote, and the one of the most sad to think about.
Because paradox keeps destabilizing countries so they can make new strategy games
When asked why men go to war, T. E. Lawrence answered "because the women are watching."
@Supadupa Swaggascoopa you don't need war to have awesome guns though
red x17 targets, deer, birds
@@noreply148 id disagree on that, you need war for the development of awesome guns to have happened
@@owenbagwell8997 Apparently that's too boring
jokes on them. women still enjoy sex, and somebody is giving it to them while you're at war.
My high school history teacher listed several reasons on the blackboard: Societal, Political, Economic, Religious and Military. Then she realized she had written S.P.E.R.M. in block capitals...
Ha old Sigmund is evrywhere^^
Thats the reason i go to war
@@krigsgaldr7603 lol
I remember the acronym my history teacher used. I believe it was P.E.R.S.I.A (political, economic, religious, societal, intellectual, arts/culture.
Very masculine. I like it. Was she a hot teacher or no?
"Stay with your family, and breed with that."
Do I look like a Lannister to you?
Lannisters in GoT look way too good for a inbreeding family
yes
@@potatonoodlebear8035 The Lannisters weren't an inbred family, only two of them had incestuous children. The Targaryens on the other hand...
@@Anon-nv7bp i think tywin also did incest
@@biggycheese4443 yeah cousin incest. Although cousin incest has only been considered incest among upper class Europeans in the past century or so, medieval European nobility did not see cousin marriage as incest.
I can answer that in one sentence: “Queen Anne commands and we obey, over the hills and far away”
OVER THE HILLS AND OCER THE MAIN
"If you don't establish yourself as a man in your 20s, you're probably never going to breed"
You're starting to sound like my parents, Lindy.
😂
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read this comment as he said it lol
"Any one who's not a Liberal when in their 20s, has no heart; any one who's not a Conservative in their 40s, has no brain" - Winston Churchill
@@ITILII Churchill never said that. Correct quote:
"“He who is not a républicain at twenty compels one to doubt the generosity of his heart; but he who, after thirty, persists, compels one to doubt the soundness of his mind.” Anselme Polycarpe Batbie
"Oh you have a doctorate is that right? In what field may I ask?"
"War."
Doctor of War would be a badass title.
"War, and stuff."
I do not have a doctorate.... not smart enough I guess. Yet my bachelors degree is in Military History :) One of the advantages of going to Salford University.
@@p_serdiuk I think there's an incarnation of Doctor Who which is most often referred to as the "War Doctor." Not the biggest fan of the show or anything, but that always did ring real badass for me.
War never changes.
When I was 14 years old my family moved to another city and I was the new kid around in elementary school, I was hated by a group, they would bully me and everything, they also hated a kid for some reason and I got into a fight with him because he borrowed a pen from me and did not give it back, anyway, I guess I was more violent in the fight. the next thing I know I was a part of that group and to this day, 15 years later they are still my best friends.
It makes me think how animalistic are social hierarchy is.
Well, maybe your behaviour might be explained better by the fact that you went to elementary school as a fourteen-year-old?
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@@arnonuhm4022
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@@arnonuhm4022 yooooo lmao
Maybe more humane thing to do was to team up with that bullied kid you fought and create new group?
@@arnonuhm4022 I can't believe you murdered him like that
There's a lot of content creators on UA-cam who cannot make a digestible, coherent 10 minute video without a script and a handful of takes. Let's so appreciate this one hour unscripted exhortation in one take. Respect!
Mothers: If your friends jumped off a bridge, would you jump too?
Sons: [join the army]
Also Mother: *Hands you a white feather*
@Scott Johnstone And it only gets worse, if he came back alive. For either he got captured and released -> cowardise
Or he missed the climax of the war -> not really fought
@@bulldowozer5858 When women do the majority of teaching, training, child raising & indoctrination and men are blamed for war & conflict.
Bridges? Where I live it's cliff. Maybe we just don't have enough bridges. But the answer is still yes. Jumping off cliffs sounds fun.
*Glory, glory what a helluva way to die! And we ain't gonna jump no more!*
-"If you give human beings the benefit of the doubt, they'll prove you wrong"
-Sam o nella
Now that’s a quote I like
Adonissherlock -“People are terrible at keeping their basic sense of right and wrong unless their society does so for them.” Also, Sam o nella
The man who discovered food poisoning?
@@JaxonBurn ye
A nice quote, but we had best make sure that everyone knows that we are still animals of a kind, because I don't have any doubts about that at all.
I can genuinely imagine asking you what you want for dinner and fully expect to hear a 30 minute lecture before you decide!!
I never realized what a great deal I can learn from a British guy in a (amazing) sweater. This is one of the best channels on UA-cam.
Lindybeige, 9 years ago: "A point about bows", 3 and a half minutes
Lindybeige, modern times: "Why do humans go to war?", an hour and nearly 7 minutes
This channel really has grown over the last decade, wow
And truly well-deserved!!
I got into his channel from those little “point about...” videos but indeed I listen to him describe whole battles, talk about tanks, ask philosophical questions, etc. It really is amazing.
@@andrewp8284 Same here, haha. I was drawn in by those quick videos, but when he started doing really big rambles like these I wasn't about to start complaining!
it is safer that way
Did it become less violent through growth?
"if you DON'T establish a reputation as a man in your 20's, you're probably never gonna breed."
Damn. Even UA-cam is telling me to call it quits...
@pyropulse that's because your part of a society that has lost morality, and therefore not a society.
Bah. It's not how it works anymore.
@pyropulse You had something of value then. Even if it was just your age and good looks. Society would probably break down if that was all our culture was about. At the end of the day you probably still want a family and wife. Nowadays with contraception, a woman can prevent a pregnancy and still have sex. It makes it a less risky endevour for her to engage in.
@@draigan i dont want a family uwu
@@owenkilleen therr are so many things wrong with that statement
"Shat in the woods" LMAO! I about died laughing when he started on the shitting in the woods bit.
Yeah, but isn't it animalistic and natural? I don't get his point...
@@maciejlewandowski7311 might be a bit late to respond but his point was about societies creating taboos they see as serving a beneficial purpose. Shitting in the woods may be normal for hunter gathers, but for a settled community it could spread disease, so a society may stigmatize the behavior to stop it even though it may be “natural”. Taboos aren’t always universal and this that is what makes it a taboo rather than an instinct. Besides having a purpose in a culture it also helps distinguish different communities making clearer “us” and “them” boundaries.
@@NickHangs-gj2eh I don't remember whole video, so I'll respond only to your post. "Shitting in the woods may cause diseases" you said. Animals shit in the woods and we're quite fine with it, aren't we? We do not demand that animals shit in designated places, so any disease wouldn't spread. Is human fescies that different from animal one, that one will spread disease and other won't? I doubt, since we eat the same things that animals do - plants and meat. Taboos are made to obscure things, as i understand it. Nothing good comes from lack of open debate on any topic. Idea that there are things, that we do not speak about is strange for me. I might not like to speak about certain things with certain people or in certain circumstances, but not to talk at all about hygiene, sex or other topics recognised as taboo is not healthy from my point of view. Thank you for your response. I'm open for discussion (even on taboo topics) :)
@@maciejlewandowski7311 There is a difference between human and animal crap as humans could carry parasites and diseases that specifically target humans (like cholera), while with animals it still isn’t healthy to have around but the chance of a specific disease jumping species isn’t as common. I think that isn’t too important as the idea is more about not pooping where you eat and live, you can’t limit what animals do but you can limit what people do. Also I interpreted this argument in the video as saying why we would evolve the ability to make taboos rather than justifying them. However, I wouldn’t say all taboos are bad as some can serve a genuine purpose (ex: incest is a taboo). But they can also be harmful by limiting ideas or discussion on topics like sex or hygiene. But that’s more of a cultural problem than an issue with human nature.
My Great Grandfather fought in WW1. He was a volunteer, having been from Northern Ireland. Apparently he was a quiet, softly spoken man and hated violence etc. When I asked my grandmother why he joined, she simply said he joined because the pay was better than what he was getting as a farm hand. Morale of this? Money can make people do things they wouldn't normally do. BTW, he rarely talked about what he saw during the war, although he did say that when he was replacing a duty post with another man in the trenches, the other man was shot in the head as he was walking away. Could have easily been my great grandfather. It must have been horrific.
Violence is the golden standard of problem solving until it's no longer certain it will benefit you.
Violence is Golden
Violence is... Elegance.
Violence is pretty useful...
Violence is... another option.
Yes and the lesson is DONT FUCK IT UP EVER
There was a line from the movie Passchendale that always stuck with me.
"It's something we do all the time 'cause we're good at it. And we're good at it because we're used to it. And we're used to it because we do it all the time."
The UK has been setting up its own conscript army by that time, I think. This white feather thing isn't working any more, they're conscripting people properly now. The original little expeditionary force is a bit decimated, but the new army is about as ready as it can get.
France has been having these kinds of battles since the start of the war. Their army is starting to break. This is about the time when entire french units starts to refuse moving forward. Russia is going through a revolution, parts of the army are bringing down the monarchy.
Excellent Movie!! Accurate reasoning too.
Passchendale was a fucked up battle. 400-800k dead people for a small village that was bombarded into oblivion during the battle. Its disgusting, insane and frightening at the same time.
I like the Capaldi's soliloquie when he was playing Doctor Who about ending war where he points out that people keep killing each other "until they do what they were always going to have to do from the beginning...SIT DOWN AND TALK".
I remember the words of 'Saki':
*"In the same way, whenever a massacre of Armenians is reported from Asia Minor, everyone assumes it* *was done 'under orders' from somewhere or other. Nobody seems to think there are people who might*
*_like_** to kill their neighbours now and then."*
In other words, human beings are bastards.
"In other words, human beings are bastards." or maybe just the people causing bad to others are bastards? I hate to see this anti-human sentiment everywhere I look.
Bad things happen between people -> "oh, humans are so bad and evil! No other animal can be so cruel and evil! I'm so edgy because I think exactly like others around me! Do I fit in now? Do you accept me?"
Meanwhile in the real world:
a cat ate her own kittens because she was alarmed by a noise,
a dolphin fuck a dead fish for its pleasure,
a lion killed all the babies and fuck their mother,
a baby penguin killed its smaller sibling because it wanted to eat all the food given,
a rat ate its own mother,
a tree strangled another plant to death because it had in order to live,
a star exploded and destroyed several solar systems around it,
so on and so on..
So maybe it's just that "bad things" are a natural part of life and existence itself? At least a human has the ability to not do bad things even though it can, so maybe we are the best thing ever existing at least in our part of the universe? There is so much potential and hope for humankind, and just to see how much we have developed since past thousands of years brings me joy.
@@pekka1900 In fact you both are correct.
Just because humans are imperfect bastards who keep wanting to drive the war machine, that doesn't mean we aren't capable of progress and goodwill.
Humans are good, but can also be imperfect to a certainly disturbing degree.
@@pekka1900 i award you a shield against ‘cope+ratio+L,etc.’ cards
49:29 and here in Brasil its even more different, we use "professor" for literally anyone who teachs at school, from university to kindergarden, we use professor as "teacher"
Isn't that the literal translation?
It is the same in spanish. Professor and teacher are more of a synonym instead of two words for different things.
all it means is that there is more of a sense of general equality between educators. in spain no one university is any more prestigious than any other.
britain just has some dumb ass contrived system for higher academics. i would never want to live there to teach or do anything for that matter.
@@BigGringus Same for the Philippines. It's... really dependent on the individual and the school if they want to make their teachers sound fancier.
@@RwandaBob Well, in Britain, a teacher in a nursery school is paid on the same wage scale as a teacher in a primary school, or a secondary school.
To become a lecturer in a university usually takes more expertise- Ph.D - in your subject and you are paid slightly higher. Although, a highly qualified, time-served, nursery school teacher will be paid as much as a junior lecturer.
To become a Professor, you need to do research and write papers, which are delivered to other academics in your field. They are people who are thought of as capable of training and mentoring lecturers. They are responsible for organising coursework for students and they also have to teach. It is not an academic qualification, but a title bestowed on a person which honours the contribution they have made to their subject and their university. Although, headteachers in a large secondary school will often be paid as much as a professor.
It's not really a 'dumb ass, contrived system' at all.
All countries have prestigious universities, including Spain.
Can we all appreciate the, lets call them "lectures" that lindybeige gives.
I am actually thinking about taking notes from his videos, even tho I sometime disagree.
@@navafrodo323 o78⁸99999ⁿ8olu
no
These are not supposed to be study lectures. He is just giving his 2 cents and then happens to keep going.
Do you need Lindybeige to talk about this in one of his talks.
“It makes life more fun”
- Some person in the Treaty of Westphalia
My family is Westphalian!! Rüthen I believe.
"Let's use it for storage!"
"Where plague victims crawl elegantly"
@@probower4726 And a shop selling little things made of straw :)
@Oritra Kar guten Morgen 🌞
Perfect example of the strength difference between males and females. One of my coworkers is exactly my age, and we've led very strangely similar lives, except for one thing. She's been working out every single day for the past year. I haven't even been in a gym in 4 years now, and even then, I wasn't exactly that into working out. She still needs me to carry things for her
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Yes and no.
The number of men having lifted these stones is far greater than the number of women. But here is also a woman that weighs 20kg less than me lifting something I, or 99% of men for that matter, couldn't even dream of lifting.
The point about status increase for the regular trooper really rings particularly true when you consider how many armies (dating as far back as the Roman Republic) relied on giving land or property to the landless as payment for long military service or particularly tough campaigns.
Hermann Göring's Last Testament:
"Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
" ... voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Let me guess, the cure is abolishing patriotism by, say, programming women into thinking the word chauvinist means sexist, abolishing nationalism by pretending it's fascist, and brainwashing the children into wanting open borders and thinking diversity is a strength, and then flooding your country with those who wish to invade you and hope and pray that they too let their children become brainwashed and don't reject your programming, meanwhile hiking up taxes as the solution to any other problem along the way?
@@bashkillszombies Guess again
@@ssatu5792 It is exactly what our treasonous government are doing to us right now. Fascism has nothing to do with it, it's closer to communism but still a way off of that. This is plain old destruction of the nation, divide and rule.
Old Hermy had such a way with words.
@@bashkillszombies well, I know I'm in good company when you sound like you agree with Herman Goring
Why do we fight?
Lloyd: "Because the French...!"
Truth.
As a French I have to thank the British for sorting the 5 problems of the french society:
Who are we: not the British
Who’s in charge: not a monarch
How do we behave for our society to work: hate the British
How do we trade: not with ridiculous imperial units haha
What are the punishments: we sorted that one on our own with the guillotine
Conclusion: To run a french society just do the opposite of what the British do.
@@SomeOne-eo7rw Haha, tres bien!
@@SomeOne-eo7rw Let your enemies define you and you will easily be defeated
@@maxvarjagen9810 France? Easily defeated?
You’re talking about the Germany-defeating nation in WWI alright?
"Beards are good and that's a fact!" He speaks the truth!
What is best in life?
To crush your enemies! To see them driven before you & hear the lamentations of their women!
"People don't kill for tennis club or the library!"
Sees rival tennis club not returning books to the right spot at the Library.
Welp time to get out the murder chainsaw.
I can take someone who doesn’t win a tennis match but goddamn return your books on time your monsters!
They would if the library and tennis club had governments...
But they fight for football!
@@benjamincarmona5883 Remember the Football War 1969?
@@benjamincarmona5883 They may fight but they do not lay waste to opposing team's cities... see the difference?
I'd argue that people don't just fob off the grand noble ideal they are fighting for, instead they tie the ideal to their own identity and status. For example if you are fighting for God, you can use the war to underline your own prestige as a man of God. If you fight for democracy you can identify yourself as a citizen of 'the land of the free'. In both cases the willingness to fight for the shared mythic ideal of your tribe gives you the personal prestige that you are aiming for.
And these days it's more of fighting for the folks you've come to love in your unit. Fraternity.
Or the days you'd fight for body count, drugs, hookers and a lovely necklace you've been making out of right ears
or...and hear me out on this....MERICA
I fully agree with Alex
Yes don't forget money though, mercenaries in many cases can pocket quite a bit of cash from killing people. And they're used in nearly every war.
22:00 - So, if the murder rate correlates to the "distribution" of female partners, is forced marriage actually lowering the murder rate, because males don't have to compete as hard? (are there robust statistics aswell?)
i think you create more problems than you solve
Forced marriage is about getting a desirable son- or daughter-in-law, not about communist distribution of women. So the spread might not even be better.
The men still compete for status so they can force their sons/daughters into marriage with other high status people.
Cant remember where I read about it, its been awhile, but almost every single time a country has gotten a high amount of males (proportionate to females) it has gotten more and more unstable. Its a likely contributor to the colapse of the Roman empire and it can be seen in modern times in places like Afghanistan and sadly in most of the Middle East. Its also one of the possible contributors to the instability in the balkans before WW1.
@@markrateh what happens if the opposite is true like what if chinas one child policy reduced the number of men?
@@BosnianBEAST-ky9xv Not sure but I would imagine that they would be less agressive as a country. Lindybeige did a good video about why we fight wars which is interesting and it ties in to the same thing about stable and unstable societies.
One of the main ideas in Frank Herbert’s sci-fi series Dune is that war happens as an instinct to mix the gene pool when a lack of change and dynamics in populations over an extended period creates a retroactive effect.
I am not gonna lie, I saw combat in Desert Storm in 1991 and Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003-2004 & 2009-2010. The physical act of fighting in combat is the adrenaline rush from hell.
Good or bad rush? for me adrenaline is best drug ever fuck weed and alcohol
@@ivanmamic4509 rush from hell? It's bad... imagine constantly thinking/ knowing your about to die....
@@TarmanTheChampionFighting and not getting killed is a massive adrenaline rush. It is scary but that’s why the adrenaline is so good. Fighting can be fun, sorry to say
So what Lloyd is saying... is...
Service guarantees citizenship
*would you like to know more?*
Im doing my part!
Damn bugs....
Lmao
""DESIRE TO KNOW MORE INTENSIFIES""
tell that to the US departed Veterans. this country is a disgrace. that's right, we've deported a whole bunch of our own that served in the military.
I really like this video. I love how you dig into the roots of human nature instead of talking too much about wars. Very well explained.
It's easy for me to forget (living in this modern world) that I'm really just a human. This video connected a lot of dots and helped me understand myself and society much better, well done!
I built a Lego Centurion tank while watching this.
Damn
Your a hero.
More than a hero hes a god
Cool.
I built a melee vehicle on Crossout.
Professor in Britain: Highest rank of scholar.
Professor in USA: Lecturers in university.
Professor (written exactly the same way in Portuguese) in Brazil: Literally anyone who teaches anything.
Profesor/Profesorka in Czechia: Gymnasium (a kind of high school) teacher, sometimes high school in general. And also the highest rank in education awarded by the head of state.
Professor in Pakistan: The guy who sits on the side of the road and tells your fortune (usually with a parrot that picks out a card from a deck that The Professor then interprets)
Professor in Canada: Nickname of the great Neil Peart.
Professor in Malaysia: Religious nutjobs who shove their feelings for invisible sky daddy down to our throats.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 How bad is it over there?
Getting this recommended today as a citizen of a EE is an experience for sure (24.2.2022)
This Man stood up without ever sitting and explained to us why humans fight wars for an entire hour without cutting
Only one hour, six minutes and forty seconds of Lindy this morning? Guess it will have to suffice until next time.
Yeah, just a short video... :p
Does that include the compulsory commercial for Great Courses Plus?
@@petervitale4431 im just happy he had an intellectual sponsor instead of some crappy Chinese cell phone game
@@TheRumbles13 I can't imagine Lloyd ever advertising for a trash mobile game
Never have I ever seen a man so able to include a disclaimer without alienating a group of his audience, bravo man.
The aliens are still alienated.
Bear Mro true
whatcha mean
@@adm0iii yeah but they always were.
Smoothly peeing on christ but ok. Haha
Wonderful, thought-provoking video. My mind was blown by the fact that 80% of women but only 40% of men have contributed to the current gene pool. One thing to consider, though: that's a very different thing from saying that most men died childless. Some men fathered children, but still didn't contribute to the modern gene pool because their lineages eventually died out. For example, Richard III fathered three children, but none of them had children of their own, so his genes aren't in the pool today. Possibly Henry VIII also, depending on how many illegitimate kids you believe he had. And Richard and Henry were both quite high-status.
I love this channel so much. You remind me greatly of my friend, Dr Patrick Sheil, who used to lecture at Kings College, Cambridge. He writes books on philosophy. Although he wouldn't agree with all your viewpoints, he would appreciate your in depth discussions/ explanations. These videos remind me of late night conversations with him.
i love his acting ability where he spontaneously acts out these little situations that helps to prove his point.
Yes, if his points were more poignant this would be perfect.
18:50 Napoleon 'Git' Bonaparte
He just couldn't help himself
Hehe, yes. Makes me wonder if there is a Pierre De Biege doing the same (opposite) thing in Frog-Speaking UA-cam. I hope so.
Sorry, I don'g understand the joke.
@@Able_Are Unfortunately no, my rosbif. I wonder if it's because we forgot or because we were surrounded by others big countries (Spain, Germany etc). It seems England is obsessed by France but not really any other country.
Thank you so much Lindy, love all your videos but this one was particularly good.
Glad you did not run out of breath.
I love it when Lindybeige digresses so far from what he was talking about that he completely forgets what he was going to say!
Then the longer the pause of amnesia, the more I cringe ... and the more enjoyable it is! LMAO!
"If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life." Brooke Shields
That sounds like a "people die when they are killed" quote
Don't die for nothing then
ha not if i am killed at the age of 99
@@techhelpwizardgenie3146 most people die for nothing
There was a Villian in a cartoon i watched called Professor Venomous. someone asked the creator on twitter if he really was a Professor, or if he just called himself that. the creator said that he taught night classes
Lecturer Venomous
I've watched this for hours and I feel like I've learnt something yet I couldn't tell you a single thing you said but I just know I got it down if anything ur voice is very nice
I love this kind of analysis, especially when it is well presented. Well done!
It's a great shame that so few people are aware of such issues, as they are really important, like politics. In fact, I would like to see further episodes along similar lines - e.g. propaganda, advertising, mass media etc. Thanks.
He will be "cancelled" if he did that.
Lindybeige proposing marriage:
"I want to stay with you and my support group back home, and breed with that, and raise kids. That's the way to do it!"
52:47 "You're not my dad"
The last words I heard before society collapsed
“fuckin noodle-head” pops in MY head after I read your comment. Vine. If you know, you know.
:D
"I'm in a tank and you're not" pops up for me tbh
uno reverse crad longbeachgriffy
@@cee20.5 Arthur get out of the tank!
The amount of thought that you put into these videos is extraordinary. I used to complain about the time it takes to make a video, but I understand how much work you put into these. I know that it must be hard to be a single parent, I mean, video producer.
Most zoutubers speak slow to fill in 10 minutes. This dude is spitting facts with lightspeed and it still takes over an hour.
This video is gravely mistitled. This was an eye-opening experience and phenomenal insight into human nature on so many levels it's astonishing
Although less entertaining and takes longer, there was a reason I think that Lloyd got really excited about Martin’s book. It is quite worth the read.
I find that message of this video is very much skewed by Lindys fascination in warfare.
Remember that this is all in theory. This should be a discussion.
He's not spitting straight facts we're exploring human nature and none of this is black and white.
He is also exaggerating to make a point. And that's totally fine as long as we understand that.
@zee Yeah. I figured he would discuss politics and the reason we have them, but he reverted to simpler days when man bang rock on wall and Unga bunga sex
@zee In isolation, but sometimes it is useful to organize the obvious into a large, organized list.
"Why do we go to war".... me an intellectual: *because the french exist*
Because the Swede exist
as a French, we go to war because the german existe
@@thibaultdubaret9863 selam Aleykum
@nick van achthoven haha the Dutch
As an American because you do the wrong think
,,A man in the past once said, that if there were an outside threat bigger then humanity, we would all put aside our differences and join as one.
We are the living proof of the foolishness of that statement." - Dot Pixis Commander of the Wall Garrison
,,Humanity will keep on fighting and killing eachother until there will only be one human left or less." - Erwin Smith Commander of the Survey Corps
This video is actually super important right now. Thanks Lindybeige.
Whenever I hear the abbreviation VC, my first thought is always Vietcong. Even though it doesn't make sense in this case, it's still the first thing to pop into my brain...
With me its venereal cross-infection. Have i revealed too much?
Difference of USA v. England.
Everyone has PTSD these days due too much american hollow wood bs propaganda about nam.
Vapnik and Chervonenkis .
Correction:
A professor in the US is not anyone who teaches at university. A professor is a Doctor of the subject who teaches at the university. Sometime you have undergrads and masters who instruct courses, and they are called instructors.
That's not his point. What u would call a lecturer over there also has a phd
@@draigan A lecturer with a PhD is a professor, in America. I said that (though I extended it beyond a Doctor of Philosophy, even though I don't know of a different type of doctorate). A lecturer without a PhD is an instructor. I know what his point was, but he made an inaccurate statement on the way.
@@Tang-qi6zw indeed, it was a minor terminology correction.
As for other doctorates: the medical doctorates, you don't have a PHD in medicne, you have a Medical Doctorate. I think the exception is Psychology. but Dentists are DDM, for instance.
@@DFX2KX I looked it up and that's right. I thought MD, DO, and DDS were licensees like PE (professional Engineer) which get added after the name, but do not come with the honorific of doctor, and that medical doctors also needed a PhD to get those licensees. My world is AE design, not medicine.
I love your use of logic to rationalise topics. Been following your videos for years.
"If you don't establish yourself as a man in your 20s, you're probably never going to breed"
Whoa.. you don't need to call me out like that, Lindy. I just want a quite life.
Thank you sir, for releasing an hour long video while I'm on a 5 hour long train ride. Great timing.
@michael wittmann hard to do, I"ve come to the realisation that I only enjoy very few channels on this website which means there aren"t particularly many unwatched videos for me to save for long train rides
Best video to listen while playing a campaign of Total War.
Javier Torre i do that all the time, it is by far my favorite way to spend a lazy sunday
Why do we go to war? For the glory of the Emperor of course! And because fuck the wood elves!
I am glad that I googled why we go to war. Just great knowledge. Thank you for taking time to make this video.
It really humbles me to know that such extraordinary minds, such as yourself are actually so accessible to a layman like myself. Thank you sir for simply existing!🙏
The perfect thing to go with my morning coffee on a Friday is an hour-long Lindybeige video
Morning coffee? You aren't from Europe/Britain then, I suppose ^^
For me it's 14:48 now :D
@@leanderdau9168 They drink coffee in Europe. Watchu talkin bout?
They drink tea in britain
Nobody expects the Tea inquisition!
7:20
My great grandfather was 5'2 and fought in WW1.
He survived.
I'm living proof of what Lloyd is describing.
You're a correlation though; one example isn't enough to be proof I'm afraid.
@@senneuh1 yeah, but, "I'm a living data point in support of the theory presented by Lloyd." Doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.
@@TheodoreMinick A fair point.
@@senneuh1 how about:
I could be used as a test case in a detailed, comprehensive study but, while I offer some weight to the suggestion, I obviously don't prove it outright.
he may well of had to. you didnt have much choice
The gorilla thing kind of reminded me of the Pax Romana. It didn't happen because everyone suddenly became enlightened. It happened because everyone knew that if they misbehaved they'd have a few legions sent their way.
Pax Americana and Pax Britannica much the same
I was expecting an explanation of the objectives of wars, yet here we have Lindybeige giving a Jordan Peterson sounding lecture on masculine psychology.
"No shitting in the woods!
C'mon! Someone's shitting in the woods again!"
“Ayo this nigga takin a shit!!”
In the words of Mad Hamish, the oldest member of the silver horde "I was on the side of being paid money to fight"
How much do I miss the wit and wisdom of the great and wonderful Mr Pratchett.
@@twobob8585 I still listen to his audiobooks while i sleep to this day.
Fun fact: moral disgust and hygenic disgust is the same thing. It's literally the same reflex repurposed (evolution is a tinkerer, again, and a lazy one at that). So, "to wash one's hands" of something is not just a metaphor, people will feel less moral guilt after physically washing their hands with soap and water.
Robert Sapolsky's lectures on human biology are awesome.
Banana Notebook, can you imagine the fun of a collaborative presentation by Sapolsky & Lindybeige? I’d pay to watch that!
The women who handed out feathers are some of the worst people humanity have ever created. That's the kind of behavior that doesn't deserve to be protected.
For some reason
I can't help but get interested listening to a talking head for 1 hour straight discussing about stuff that interests him
The accent definitely helps. If this would have been American I would have gotten sick of it extremely quickly, but I just love listening to a Brit talking about his passion. I have learned more from lindybeige than I ever did in my school career.
if youre not interested in the matter at all, yet nontheless watched the entire thing anyway, then i cant think of a better reason than youre just very attracted to Lindy.
Manuel Toloza
Well I think he’s also interested in the matter, otherwise he wouldn’t have found the vid in the first place lol. You are not going to find a lindybeige vid by searching “british person history and the psychology behind it”
_"To ask why we fight... is to ask why the leaves fall. It is in their nature. Perhaps there is a better question. Why do we fight? To protect home, and family... to preserve balance, and bring harmony. For my kind, the true question is: What is worth fighting for?"_ - Chen Stormstout 🐼
People don't fight to protect, they fight to kill and dominate, to gain power for the sake of power
._.
ABAlphaBeta People fight for different reasons. But in case you didn't get the reference I was quoting a fictional Panda so it may not be _entirely_ applicable to humanity. However I think plenty of people do fight to protect as well as just for the sake of honor and glory, not necessarily motivated by power in the slightest.
@@ABAlphaBeta Ah yes, because Belgium in ww1 didn't want to desperately protect it's people but was secretly on a mission to dominate and kill all of europe. Mhm, makes sense.
Seriously though, many wars really are just for the reasons you said, but existental wars do exist and they are quite common, especially if you take a look at a more personal basis. The soviet farmer fighting to the death in a desperate attempt to halt the advancing SS troops, probably doesn't do it cause he wants to dominate them
Power for sake of it is inaccurate they gaming power to change the environment to their liking
I think we can all agree on this:
we NEED to know the role of rhubarb in the early wars of Vietnam!
How does he make money with hour long videos but no ads. absolutely amazing thank you lindybeige.
"Men are quite a bit bigger and stronger"
I don't think my body got the memo
most men are quite bigger and stronger than women, is that better?
Lift weights
@@gitman3486 good plan, that will make him taller and stronger.
Or maybe not.
Cero Miedic I’ll make him strong not taller
Lift weights and walk in stilts.
Dear Mr (Professor?) Lindy,
no video specific comment, just a huge thank you for your work. You are a born raconteur and a mine of information. I enjoy your posts immensely and I thank you again for them. Long may you continue! I salute you with a Polish birthday toast....Sto Lat!!! (live a hundred years)
Dear Mr Lindybeige, your videos are fascinating and your explanations are so convincing. You mention a lot of facts in your videos. While this would be a BIG admin overhead, it would make your factual statements so much more powerful if in the description you were able to add some of the references, specifically around percentages or studies that you refer to. This would really convince any of the doubters. Keep up the great work!
I should also mention that I rarely, if ever, wear beige. I humbly apologise and will endeavour to rectify my wardrobe.
Thank u Lindy... For helping me with some information that helps me
"Attack you in the lower tavern"
For a second I though tavern was a new nickname for body region...
“Oh look, there‘s still a light on in the lower tavern.“
*local*
Oooh, right in the local tavern. That's a painful place.
I was an adventurer too, until I took an arrow in the tavern...
A bit of a more poetical approach to it:
The Sun is also a Warrior by Leslie Fish
"Two men walked on the beach in the sun.
One left footprints, the other left none.
One was a man who no man obeys;
The other a god from the ancient days.
"Look, " said the man, "how my kind make war.
I summonned you here to ask what for."
"For wealth or land, " the god replies,
"For life, or freedom, or some king's lies."
"The sun is also a warrior. Knowledge can also destroy.
Nor can the kindest will, Preserve you from the kill.
Not all of wisdom brings joy."
"Four of those five, " the first one said,
Are not enough to appease the dead.
To save my world all this strife must cease,
So now I bid you to conjure peace."
The god said "Yes. Though it grieves me sore,
For I was also a god of war,
And I remember what you forget,
Four of those five you may still regret."
"The sun [...]"
He raised his voice and he raised his hand.
All strife stopped at the god's command.
No voice ventured an angry word,
No hand struck and no weapon stirred.
In time, the man called the old god back.
"Look, " he cried, "what my people lack!
One lord rules over all the earth,
And we're all his slaves from the hour of birth."
"The sun [...]
"Look, he owns all wealth, and he owns all land,
We starve and die under his command.
He speaks the truth and he gives us peace,
But all that I hope for is our release."
The old god said, "This is what you willed.
For only thus is your wish fulfilled.
War's five sources I took away,
Yet I will give four of them back today."
"The sun [...]"
He raised his hand and his voice once more,
And all the world overturned in war.
And when the last of those fires let fall,
There was no lord in the world at all.
"Go rebuild now, " the old god said,
"Feed the living and bury the dead,
And remember this when you speak of war,
And think upon what is worth fighting for."
"The sun [...]"
Wow, that was great thanks.
Leslie Fish does write lovely music, glad to know someone else listens.
Men in both World Wars were much more naive about war than people today. One of my grandfathers signed up for his part in WW2 aged 15, he lied about his age to get in. He won medals and was presented to the King, but was also captured 3x and kept in POW camps from which he escaped. He was woefully unprepared for what he would face and told us horrifying stories about what happened. Many of the boys and men who signed up were deceived by propaganda. In WW1 the situation was even worse, it's heartbreaking to think of.
"Got a doctorate in.... war and stuff."
"Testosterone is responsible for beards and beards are good" xD
You can't argue with science.
Give me more of that sh*t then. Me want big mountain man beard. Im making good progress but not there yet.
RMS might agree.
The hormone of the gods.
The rush and high of combat may not have necessarily been from the prospect of killing or shooting other people for him, but rather simply the danger of the situation in general. I'm a firefighter, and I love my job. I enjoy helping people, but my favorite part by far is the adrenaline rush, and how fun it is being in those situations.
So much lessons in human psychology deliveted with real life examples. Appreciate the information.
Very informative .. worth rewatching
For the giggles really innit
You’re fascinating to me Lloyd. I watch a lot of UA-cam. I’ve watched your back catalogue and everything you’ve made since I discovered your channel in my recommended section. You’re probably the only UA-camr able to make hour-long videos going on about some topic and make it so engaging. You rival the best lecturers I’ve heard at university. The breadth of your interests and knowledge is enviable. Thanks for so many great videos, and we’ll stuff the French in due time!
49:25 Usually in the USA (from my anecdotal experience) people are called "Professor" if they have a doctorate or PHD in their respective field AND they are giving your lectures. Usually those people are not only instructors but also researchers at the school as well.
When I was at university (UK), we called the people with a doctorate or PHD in their respective field and who were giving lectures were called "Doctors". To be a professor, you had to be a level above that.
You and I will get along very well my good sir, we understand each other's concepts about the world around us...