Mortons Neuroma, 3 Instant Pain Relief Options at Home, From A Real Patient
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- Mortons Neuroma, 3 Instant Pain Relief Options at Home, From A Real Patient
Bob and Brad discuss mortons neuroma and options for instant pain relief.
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I’m a board certified Pedorthist so I see this every day in my practice. The nerve that runs between metatarsal heads is being pinched so the worst thing for this condition is tight footwear, this includes tight socks. And of course high heels as it adds pressure to the area. So you must wear a wider toe boxed shoe (with little or no heels) than you are used to. Toe socks help separate the toes. The met pads you described are helpful as long as the shoes are wide enough to allow the metatarsals to separate. It basically pushes up and separates the metatarsals where the nerve is located to relieve the pressure. But the location of that pad is crucial. As you mentioned. A 3/4 length insole with met pads allows more room in the toes. A stiffer shoe or a front rocker helps to prevent pressure in that area, at toe off. So Birkenstock sandals, Haflinger house slippers, true “walking” shoes, hikers, cross trainers vs. “running” shoes are better since they do not bend at the toes. But I cannot stress the importance of the wider toe box. Tight shoes are the culprit!!!!
Aïda Hayes ...AMEN! I’m surprised at him! Telling us to stop wearing high heals. He needs to go and buy new wider shoes!
Anita Russum ha ha ... well high heels also put pressure on the metatarsals so I do agree with him there!
I get “A Lot” of relief when I wear my “Oofos” flip flops. They are heavenly. They cost around $55.00 dollars. I buy them from a Store called “Lucky Feet”.
They are a relaxer, Flip Flop. Not made for Shopping....but I shop in them all the time because of the comfort. They are a lite weight, black rubber Flip Flop. Two or three different styles and colors.
For my work Shoes.....A wide Toe box is a must. I buy mens tennis shoes for that reason.
Still dealing with DAILY Pain from my Morton neuroma : (
Pointy shoes were a part of my life years ago.
The older style Crocs have a wide toe box and are incredibly comfortable (newer styles are more of a traditional width and not as good).
I wore a pair of pointy, tight-toed shoes ONCE and I've had problems for over a year now.
Hi guys, we want to thank you so much for this video. My wife has been suffering for months with this problem but after following your instructions she can now walk virtually pain free. A big 👍 from us
Great video! I ran my first marathon with it! Ouch! I made it to finish line at 3:24! I modified my shoes and no more high heals! 👡👠🥿
I wish more foot docs would design shoes especially ones for people with longer 2nd toe. Most toe boxes are not shaped like a natural foot, they gradually get more and more narrow so your foot gets squeezed
Once again you guys have come to my rescue! I thought my planar problem had returned but no it was Morton's Neuroma!!! Just tried your fix and relief at last! I swear to never try to start my dirt bike using bare feet again.....
Really helpful, I’ve had increasing pain from this for the last couple of years. Right foot more than left and some shoes are agony. But this is very good and I’m gonna try some of the ideas. .
My husband got bigger shoes which helped a lot. He has also used toe separators - the kind used for pedicures and wears them in bed for about 10 minutes before falling asleep. It seems to help alleviate symptoms.
Very cool 👍 much appreciated friend
Are you familiar with
"PediPlast" a silicone compound that lets you fabricate soft, customized digital appliances? You can make toe cushions, straighteners, separators or protectors to treat hammer toes, overlapping toes, corns, bunions, even replace amputated digits.
Would love to hear your feedback on this product?
www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TK76W/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_Pr.KEbKBYRAH6
Alleviating pain doesn't make the neuroma disappear. Sadly
Could you please do episode on cervical stenosis? Would like to know exercises and stretches. Thank you!!
I also have Morton's neuroma in both feet. I completely gave up high heels 20 years ago and eventually found shoes with wonderful support for my high insteps. It's very important that whatever shoe I wear has a really roomy toe cap.
I have more numbness than pain and it feels like I've got squishy pebbles inside my feet which don't always provide good feedback regarding their orientation to the ground, making footing a little iffy and annoying. Thanks for addressing the issue and discussing those tips!
Hi Gail My podiatrist recommends New Balance for having a large Toe Box. I was there recently for extremely painful, chronic feet 🦶 🦶pain. He really examined my feet alright!! Very throughly. I felt like I was in the specialized dentist, where the dentist calls off info regarding every single tooth 🦷 to a person writing down all the info!! Podiatrist said I need New Balance shoes in the 900 or more range because those have a heel!!! I HAD NO IDEA some tennies had heals! They’re expensive but I’m sure will be worth it!!
Thanks, Nan, for the information. I'll take another look at New Balance shoes. But I think the key might be finding a podiatrist again and see if the agent more or other alternatives. It's nice to hear from someone with the same problem.
Hi Gail!
I have been dealing with MN for three years now and I’m desperate to find the right shoe.
Like you I also have a high instep.
Would you please give me the brands/ models of shoes that worked for you?
Whenever I have aches and pains and search for help, I’m SO HAPPY when Bob & Brad have a video on it. 😊
I am just recovering from this. I couldn't even walk 2 weeks ago. Ibuprofen, elevation, and toe spacers worked for me. I think you only need one or two spacers at most but you also need wider shoes to compensate for the spacers.
How is your recovery going? Do you have any suggestions for helping healing?
I started feeling tingling and numbness between the balls of my feet just below my big toes after running down some hills for a week.
@@bmp713 I wear wider shoes and that seems to help. I always knew my feet were wide but didn't think it was a big deal because wider shoes are sometimes harder to find, but now I know I need them. Other than that I don't know and I am not a doctor. Just rest it and look into wider shoes and maybe toe spacers. I use a rubber toe spacer between the two toes closest to my big toe, and that also seems to work. But it won't work without the wider shoes.
@@broccool2300 Thank you for your detailed response. I have wide size 14 feet so its pretty tough to find good cushioned shoes with enough room inside.
How much have your symptoms improved?
@Tu Papi Hard to tell but that sounds like something else, like an infection.
@Tu Papi Yeah, mine didn't swell so much but it was too painful to walk. The foot in complicated because it has so many parts, so it is hard to say exactly what it is without going to the doctor. I would ice it down and take lots of Ibuprofen. I would take twice the recommended dosage the first day then tapper it down. That will help with the pain and swelling. But I am not a doctor so maybe it is best to see a professional first.
I've been wearing insoles with metatarsal support for 4 months and my mortons neuroma has improved to the point that I can walk around my house barefoot without pain. Occasionally I'll flex my foot in a way that makes the nerve pop and burn for a second, but it is so much better than 6 months ago when I was limping because of the neuroma. I wanted to come back and share my experience and recommend insoles with the metatarsal bump.
I don't have a metatarsal bump, I had Morton's neuroma and underwent surgery 3 years ago. Never felt better. Insoles wouldn't have worked for me, my neuroma was very big.
We're all different.
@@DebbieTDP well I'm glad you tried before resorting to surgery...
@@MOTO_DOSE I didn't try. The orthopedic surgeon and my physiotherapist agreed.
The insoles don't cure the neuroma. So I went for surgery as advised. 😉
@@DebbieTDP Thanks for posting. Sadly I have a neuroma in both feet. Both are painful, the right more so. In the last few months of doing everything suggested, including special insoles, it has made no difference. My surgeon has noted them both, via scans.
How was your recovery and has it continued to be good for you..?
Perhaps just as important, how much did your neuroma bother you..?
Thanks again for posting.
@@Vimes. My neuroma bothered me a lot, the worst years of my life before I decided to go to the orthopaedic surgeon. It took me 15 days to recover, the first and second I stayed in bed at home most of the time. Then with my orthopaedic shoes (i bought 2, 1 bigger to host the right foot the one that underwent surgery, as the bandaging was quite bulky and one my size for the left one) and clutches adventured outside 😉😁. From the 5th or 6th day I used 1 clutch only, trying to shift the weight on the left foot. When the surgeon took the stitches, 15 days later, I wore comfy sandals for a week, then my beautiful new sandals and trainers finally pain free 😉🙏🏻
I did and still do some simple exercises, like trying to pick up a towel from the floor with my toes or simply wiggle them for a few minutes.
Hope this helps. 🙏🏻
I had cortisone shots but what really helped was toe socks and metatarsal pads everyday! I also wear wide zero drop shoes.
Denise Volmering, do you walk much? I’ve had best success with wide zero drop shoes too. However, I’ve had a low back problem this summer. Now that it is better, I’m back to walking to a mile and now my Achilles’ tendons are both screaming.
@@sharonmitchel1377 I do walk everyday. My favorite shoe is the Altra Loan Peak 4 trail shoes. They have some nice cushion in them. Very comfortable! I just wish they lasted longer. Depending how often I wear them 6-12 months.
@Hoosier Googler I find ASICS has THE most narrow toe box of ALL!!!!
This is my game plan too!
Cortisone shots for the neuroma is the shizz
I had this!! My ortho doc sent me to the podiatrist. Didn’t tell me about things I could have tried!!! That’s why YOU GUYS R O C K!!
it"s all about the money why they rather give you drugs and treatments only your insurance will pay for. it's the whole new twist to do no harm by not offering what can help you. giving you free advice does nothing for their pockets. that's the American health system unless you have above exceptional insurance with deep pockets.
Morton’s Nueroma is excruciating- wear Birkenstock’s solved it for me
Very cool 👍 much appreciated friend
Are you familiar with
"PediPlast" a silicone compound that lets you fabricate soft, customized digital appliances? You can make toe cushions, straighteners, separators or protectors to treat hammer toes, overlapping toes, corns, bunions, even replace amputated digits.
Would love to hear your feedback on this product?
www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TK76W/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_Pr.KEbKBYRAH6
Helen Kirk
Do you have flat feet? I just started wearing Birkenstock’s to utilize the arch support.
Birks are the best!
I play roller derby and my skates have caused me to have this issue. Super frustrating.Thanks for the video.
Same thing has happened to me, what solved it?
Had to give up roller skates for good because of this
Thank you so much for the information about using a pad on the bottom of my shoe insert. It made all the difference! I was so worried that I wouldn't be able to go out walking any more, but using a simple pad has stopped the pain! I'm really grateful.
Did it clear your neuroma? I doubt it. It's a quick fix not a cure.
My daughter has retrocalcaneal bursitis what can we do to release it. I took her to see a Dr he said cold compress and antiinflamitory meds
Ps you guys are my go to people your videos have helped stay out of the Drs office for those little things that can be cared for at home . Thank you so much.
Just removing the insole really does not work. Shoes are too hard and uncomfortable without an insole. ALSO a good arch support is needed to take pressure off the neuroma. If shoes are too tight, maybe a supportive 3/4 length arch support insole/orthotic would work -- like a FootChair or Powerstep Pinnacle 3/4 length. I'm dealing with Morton's Neuroma now and have found that EXTRA WIDE shoes are essential! Also, if you are wearing tight compression socks, as I was to treat vein disease, that could make it worse or even be the cause. i had to switch to compression sleeves (footless, only covering ankle and above). The full compression socks were pressing the bones in my foot together which I suspect caused the neuroma, along with too tight shoes.
HOOOLLLYYY You actually answered my question about neuromas?! Thank you thank you thank you Merry Christmas!
Me too. My foot hurts so bad. I have stopped wearing heels but was still having a problem. Tried using a pad but obviously it was in the wrong place. Will try this. Wondering if you still had the pain when you wore something like sandals where you don't have the tight shoe?.... my feet still hurt but only when I walk for a while.
I have them in both my feet. The podiatrist wanted to do surgery. But I opted to try other things first. I went to UA-cam and learned about KT taping. Game changer for me. I can walk most days with zero pain and some days with a little pain. When that happens I change how I wrap my feet. Bam, all good. I suggest you check this out also as the pads did not help me. Hope you find relief.
I realize this is an older thread but can you please tell me the name of the UA-cam video showing the KT taping for Morton’s Neuroma? Thanks!
It is not just caused by tight shoes, it can be because of immobility in your ankles and tight posterior chain that is the root cause. This means when you take a step your feet will be under pressure for longer. So really you have to work on your posterior chain and your ankles to get to the root cause.
Thank you. I removed the insoles from my walking shoes and now can walk in them without pain from the “rock” in my foot. ( That’s what it felt like. ) I had two steroid injections 5 yrs ago in my foot. I received about 6 months relief. I’ve tried the metatarsal spreading pads but that wasn’t successful. Being barefoot gives me the least trouble!
I have Morton's ( 2 on rt foot) and I wear compression socks. I found that if I slice the top ( instep) of the sock lengthwise it relieves the pressure. You want to go lengthwise because if cut crosswise they unravel. First I tried cutting the ends of the socks off but they unravel and you have to wear another loose sock over it.
Compression socks are what caused my neuroma and I do need them for my legs. I'll give this method a try. Have you tried the toeless compression socks?
Thank you for idea of adhering the metatarsal pads under the insole. I paid $500 to have fitted custom made insoles with metatarsal pads. I suggest you mention and discuss or comment on custom made insoles with metatarsal pads. Thank you!
Oh...my...gosh! That's exactly what I have in my left foot! A podiatrist xrayed my foot more than 5 years ago and said it was a touch of arthritis and I would need custom orthotics very soon. I didn't go back, but first I started wearing lower and lower heels and this year I started buying shoes a half size bigger. I just got new hiking boots for Christmas! I have one more suggestion for people--wear flexible shoes. Those stiff soled shoes or hard women's platforms don't work for me anymore. I need shoes that bend with my foot, but protect my feet from gravel and hard floors. Are there any exercises that help?
I had an X- Ray they show zero... If you have to have anything again...I had an ultra sound it showed some but not enough.. So had MRI and it showed everything 😊 X-rays are hopeless for so many things but they still palm ya off with them if can. I will only opt for MRIs now.. Plus no radiation.. 😊Well so they say.
@@khaleesid5285 So true. X-rays are good for bone fractures, but show nothing when it comes to soft tissue. I always feel that every doctor should have a really great portable device for viewing soft tissue in the office. Does that exist? And if not, why don't they develop one?
I got wider shoes and still had the problem. Then realized it was my ultra comfy Bombas socks as they had too much mid/forfoot compression. Many sock brands nowadays had compression through the "mid foot", but many have slid that compression too far forward and will give compression to the forefoot instead. Make sure your socks aren't compounding the problem. Go back to socks without the compression band through them. Agree with the Met Pad and wider shoes. Nerve glides can also be helpful.
Exactly the same experience with "Bombas". I fear they might have created some of my foot problems. And I used to love them.
Crazy if this turns out to be my issue - not sure, but the problem may have started around the same time…
I also got it from road biking for over 25 years. Those sidi cycling shoes are very narrow and cause this condition. I’m going to try these tips and see if I get relieve. I also got a wider cycling shoe.
Thanks guys. I was hit by a car at 16yo and lacerated my tendons and broke bones in my foot (Im 52 now) and starting to experience the pain. So these are very handy tips where I don't have to fork out hundreds of $$ on new shoes, to start my journey. Thank you (from Australia!)
I have morton's neuroma, I use toe spreaders while I sleep and during the day I go barefoot or wear minimalist barefoot shoes and it's helped me 100%, no more pain.
I do all of that and I still have pain.
@@californiahighdesertpreach2261 Yeah, isn't it depressing when you read about the things that people do and how it helps them, and then you try it and it doesn't?!
Glad it doesn't snow where you live. The moment you'll wear normal shoes the pain will return.
@@californiahighdesertpreach2261 Get surgery. It's risk free and you'll fly and run afterwards.
Personal experience.
@@DebbieTDP Thanks.
I had that problem. I was on my feet at my job and felt like I was walking on a walnut. After a series of cortisone shots, I had surgery which fixed it.
Are you still pain free?
Ken Lewis Yes, pain never came back and that was 20 years ago!
@@karenbackus1531 wow!!!! I am hoping for this same result!!!🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
@@kmichaelewis Hey Ken, I am contemplating surgery for Morton's Neuroma, as I have tried everything else, but nothing worked. Just wondering, if you had surgery, and if yes, how it went, thx : )
@@halcyon-cg2eb I did not
I got good feet arch supports and they fixed it! INSTANTLY!
bunions! bunions to blame! all shoes are tight when you have a bunion. my left foot is ravaged by a bunion and it hurts in that spot you've shown more than on my right foot
J D BUNIONS. ME. TOO!!!
Really good info. I have had a neuroma but have helped out alot by ensuring that my gait mechanics are better and that I am not externally rotating my hip and consequently my foot while walking. I also found doing some tibialis anterior strengthening also helped, maybe just coincidence but whatever works...thanks
Thanks guys
I wear a latex bunion toe separator on my middle toe with the separator on the bottom of my foot (sideways from how it's supposed to be worn). This takes all the pressure off the spot that hurts.
I am going to try this
I like this without the long introduction. . . .
I got a few problems. I’ll make it fast
My pinky and 4th toe run into the shoe. This is a new thing from last October. It still hasn’t changed. It’s very hard to find shoes that don’t do this. Even when they’re big shoes my feet tries to find that corner of the Toebox
I can’t find any shoes that work for me. I’m prob gonna go to good feet but they’re crazy expensive and I’m worried I’ll change my mind and they’ll not refund me for the shoes
Idk what to do. Driving is horrible. I drive for a living. The pain is sometimes in the back ankle or the inside the the arch. I feel I’m developing multiple problems bc I’ve tried so many shoes
My Morton’s Neuroma lasted for nearly 6 months. Living on my own with a dog was just the worst. Couldn’t walk or do anything and ended up walking on the side of my foot. I’d rather break another collar bone than live with that again. Still not 100% after 4 years as it still lets me know it’s still tender sometimes.
Ice helps. I bought inserts that completely relieved the pain by Powerstep. I bought wool metatarsal pads that worked too.
Same : I live alone with a 9 month Doberman X Mali. My neuroma is a catastrophe for her health, well-being and her training.
@@soundsignatures7574 I had a Morton’s neuroma one in each foot but I had to work so I did one foot at a time surgery and it’s been gone for many years now. I highly recommend that route.
@@KatieJoMikell hi Katie. Did you have permanent loss of feeling in your toes after the surgery?
@@KH-hr5xm No not at all.
I developed this from trying to squeeze my foot into too narrow a shoe.. felt like strumming a guitar string.. numbness then pain after removing the shoe. This is getting chronic for me but I will try your suggestions. Can you explain the feeling of a guitar string being plucked in my foot in that area? Is this a ligament/tendon and am I reinjuring it?
Morton's neuroma is a enlarged nerve. You are strumming a nerve
@@akeleven thank you SO MUCH for your response.. now I have a starting point.. beginning with better fitting PRACTICAL footwear. Again, thank you for your feedback.
The toe socks allow your toes to spread out therefore not crowding the toes.
Very cool 👍 much appreciated friend
Are you familiar with
"PediPlast" a silicone compound that lets you fabricate soft, customized digital appliances? You can make toe cushions, straighteners, separators or protectors to treat hammer toes, overlapping toes, corns, bunions, even replace amputated digits.
Would love to hear your feedback on this product?
www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TK76W/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_Pr.KEbKBYRAH6
I had a problem that MAY have been this for months, pain in ball of foot when standing. But my shoes aren't that tight? I had good insoles and oddly enough I've tried something a bit like what is in this video by adding height to the instep support: but way I cleared it was by putting in 3 gel pads where my foot lands in a pattern leaving a space (like a donut I suppose but it wasn't really a circle) where the pain was. THAT cleared it quite quickly and I have that in my daily walking shoes. I was ok for almost a year in fact I'd forgotten about it, though I have good support insoles in all my shoes.
But in the winter there I switched to these sort of combined sock+slippers for warmth that have a cloth sole and no support at all, so ball of my foot was on the hard floor... and also did a bit of running in different shoes .. Problem came back very quickly, :(
I've now proper slippers on and same idea, I've good insoles and cut a gel pad where my ball of my foot lands to have a gap where the pain is so all the weight is on the gel supported other areas of the ball. If I stand on it, noticably less discomfort.
Thank you for the great suggestions. I will try the pad in addition to my inserts. Do you have any recommendations to deal with Morton's Neuroma intensified by ski boots? The boots must fit snug and not slip, but my feet can only take a few hours on the slope without pain.
That’s my very first memory (at 10-11 years old) of this - almost crying by the end of a day on the slopes because it felt like my toe was frozen solid with pain.
Brad looks like a mob boss in that thumbnail.
My wife had an operation to cure this, but 7 weeks on, she still has the original issue of Pain. Does it take longer to recover? or is it a waste of time? Many thanks.
Hi guys. There's another way to get relief from the pain. This is probably better than felt pads, since it doesn't move the pressure to other areas and doesn't 'steal' space from your shoe: Just find the exact spot on the insole and cut a hole. Free and quick!
Maybe I should add that the hole I cut is only 1 inch (length) and half an inch wide. I made it eliptical though that doesn't matter. It's so great to be able to walk without pain after 15 years with pain and a severe limb. So: thanks for the inspiration.
Love your videos and advice but don’t think this is going to sort out a serious neuroma. I had neuromas in both feet and could hardly walk for several months until I had an operation to remove them. This helped for a while but unfortunately the nerve ending grew back and formed a stump neuroma. Not quite as bad as before but it still limits how far I can walk.
Inserts and spacious shoes do help to some degree. Crocs and Birkenstock’s are more comfortable than anything else. Also bought some very good, but very expensive, inserts from Aertrex. These are probably doing the same thing as your home made pads. Bought one size over my normal shoe size to accommodate them, so there’s no extra toe pinching.
I was also given exercises by a podiatrist to break down any adhesions in the foot that might be aggravating the problem, this helped quite a lot. As a basic description, this involves lying on your back, pulling your leg up to your chest and pointing the foot forward for 30 seconds or so, then repeat. It can initially feel worse but definitely helped me.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I had toe surgery on both feet at the same time 7-8 years ago. The surgery Alon with poor advice from the surgeon/podiatrist eventually caused neuromas in both feet. Long story short, had the neuromas removed by another greedy, shoddy podiatrist, now I have stump neuromas in BOTH feet. I've been going to a specialized center in the Boston area for ablation and platelet treatments. It has been a painful journey that has affected my quality of life. These podiatrists will keep recommending surgeries until they have you in a wheelchair. I now also where orthodics, metatarsal pads etc. I will be going to the clinic again next year, the treatment actually relieved pain permanently about 35%, going back to get more permanent pain relief probably about 65% which may not sound like a lot but with this debilatating pain is heaven.
Suziqheart I was “this” close to being put on the chopping block again by my podiatrist, so I got a second opinion. He was entirely wrong and I saved myself $5k and possible needless surgery and risk. The other doc diagnosed me with Morton’s neuroma. They want your $$$$. Don’t forget, if you go to a surgeon, they’re gonna recommend surgery.
@@slockhart1234How did this work out for you? I have a consult in October for cryoablation with the same place.
I have tried this but not much relief. I then tried KT tape and wow, it worked amazingly well. It was a game changer. I recommend this to anyone who suffers with this.
How would you tape for Mortons Neuroma?
@@tstarcher2001 I'm curious too, to know how to apply the tape. Sounds like a great idea, as the tape has helped me in other ways too.
How did you use the KT tape, where did you put it
Currently seeking a doctor to see if I have this! It hurts SO MUCH can barely walk some days and I’m limping when I can and as a nanny that’s not great! Just bought some pads so it’s nice to see I can use insert in the bottom lol thank for the video 🥰
Had mine cut out 9 years ago which was really a massive relief
But now 2023 it us back in the similar place. As an avid walker it is such a miserably debilitating pain. Burning, sharp. Painful sensation that cant be eased once it flares.
Only takes around 1 mile for it to really kick in.
But much more frustrating is that it really hurts whilst DRIVING! Foot on clutch is like THE perfect position to provoke it at its worst for some reason!
Horrible pain. Now I have to contact my GP to get this ball rolling for another surgical removal.
I dont have much hope in getting it done within a year the way the healthcare is these days from immigrants overloading the system. It took 2 years on the waiting list 9 years ago!!!
Is there anything else I can do?? These exercises and footwear suggestions are appreciated but very useless in all seriousness
Thank you!
I have a neuroma on my right foot but am getting some occasional electric pains shooting through my left toes. Wow it is surprising and .Drs ignore me when I say this. I don't know what to do.
It happened yesterday while I was driving. I have no answers and don't even know what kind of dr to see now since two have ignored this explanation. They sidetracked me from answering. Anyone else experience this?
It really feels like something is giving me an electrical shock but it is only once in a while. I go barefoot a lot and wear sandals due to the neuroma but I don't think that would cause shocks.
I had no issues until I got orthotics. I've since taken them out.
So what about the pain and feeling of having a marble stuck in my foot... ???
Alcohol injections got rid of mine. No regrets. Still pain free. ~ Lisa
L B I’ve never heard of Alcohol 🍷 Injections!!! Is that with a glass, or a syringe!!? 😳😳😳😳😳😊😊😂😂😂
@@Nan-59 With a syringe in a podiatrist's office. However, if you have a low pain tolerance, a glass or two beforehand couldn't hurt.
Seriously though, it's over in a couple of seconds and it simply kills that nerve. You can get up to seven injections, one per consecutive week, until it's fully dead. Mine was mostly dead after one, and I'm pretty sure it was completely dead after three. Totally worth it. I have zero pain there now. Look it up! ~ Lisa
This does not work for severe neuroma or stump neuromas (when the nerve grows back). The alcohol injections provide temporary relief, like the cortizone shots.
@@slockhart1234 Maybe. I had my neuroma for as long as I can remember, at least thirty years, and wish I hadn't waited as long as I did before addressing it. It was severe enough to be deforming my foot. From my research, the injections are more effective and are a better long-term solution than surgery, where the nerve tends to grow back faster and bigger, and with greater frequency than after injections. I had my injections over three years ago and have no signs of any regrowth. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Do your own research and talk with as many doctors as you need to before making a decision.
@@LB-vl3qn Well thank goodness something worked for someone! I'm def gonna do more research and consider👍
Bob and Brad! I did tge squeeze test and I was surprised that didn't hurt. But I do have pain in that area...what else could it be?
"Mortons foot" and "Mortons neuroma" . Two different foot issues...two different Dr Mortons, bizarrely!
"Morton's foot" is where the first metatarsal is shorter than the second.
Like yours!
I have one Morton's foot and one typical foot. The one with the mortons foot is problematic for running, as the toe-off overly uses the second and third toes. I'm getting more pain in that neuroma spot the more i run! I definitely need an orthortic or i fear i run the risk of it developing into a neuroma.
Is your neuroma caused by your shorter big toes?
Thanks for this B&B. I get MN pain even wearing flip flops. I don't wear heels and all my shoes and walking boots are wide toe and roomy. Therefore, for me, it's not the interior space size, it's the insole and its shape. I'll try your DIY pressure pads. They look promising. Also, if a shoe is too roomy, then other problems are created as your foot slides back and forth creating calluses etc. Also, I have a theory that walking barefoot in sand is probably helpful for all sorts of foot problems. But I don't live near a beach.
Get surgery it's the only solution. Personal experience. I now fly and run with that ex painful foot.
@@DebbieTDP Thanks for your input Debbie. Did you have to talk your doctor into it or was it advised by her/him? Also, how long were you off your foot? Sam
@@scotsam7590 I went to see an orthopaedic surgeon after my doctor prescribed me x-ray and an ultrasound scan. He was very clear that insoles and the likes wouldn't work.
I had 20 days recovery prescribed, after 15 days I was already walking with the orthopaedic shoe and no clutches. In 20 I was out and about wearing sandals (it was summer!😉).
@@DebbieTDP thank you for sharing your experience Debbie! Did you have permanent loss of feeling in the toes of the foot that was operated on?
@@KH-hr5xm not at all. My toes work perfectly!😁
Thanks for this info, video was kinda dark
must be the red dot that causes all the pain.. or the high heels.
I have severe pain on the top of my foot. Maybe 2 inches down from middle toe. Hurts when I stand and walk. I have plantar fasciitis in both feet. But this top foot pain is only in my right foot. And there’s swelling in the middle of my foot on the bottom. About 2 inches down from where he has his foot marked. I wear Saucony for PF and roxys. The only shoes I’ve found to correct my over pronation. Ankle pain is completely gone. Since I corrected that with these shoes. Just don’t know what’s causing the constant pain. My heels don’t even hurt as much if at all anymore. But I also have sciatica in right leg and hip. There are times I can’t walk normally.
My foot also pops, click on top when I rotate my foot or step down.
I did the cortisone shot which hurt like hell when he did it. Said I would notice a small shock when he inserted the needle. It was more like an electrocution. It took about a week to feel better and got progressively better for a couple of months but is now hurting again.
Same. They didn’t even warn me, just stabbed. It was a very unpleasant sensation but it has made 80% of the pain go away so far (4 days ago)
Anna I can confirm 100% but it’s not going to last. I feel the Cortizone shot is a bit of a waste of money for me. Long term relief is a slow process. Orthotics. New shoes with more room at the toes. Sucks to get old!
Zasper Monarch I’m 25:( I had 6 toes on my right foot so that caused this, foot is too wide. Multiple surgeries. Doc is getting me a customer orthotic, can’t wait.
There are other techniques like alcohol injection or RFA.. Check them out!
Oh gosh that’s why I don’t want to have it. I gently tap on the neuroma area and I faint let alone a needle in there 😢
I've had this problem for years. Sometimes it is worse for whatever reason. I am on my feet a lot and get over 10000 steps daily most days. some time 25000. I have had shots and after awhile that worked until recently. The condition has come back. I wear inserts and they seem to help. But sometimes not. We have a soft cush pad that is very supportive at the sink where we stand and rinse dishes etc. That pad is perfect. I need soles made of that pad. Yes I know nothing tight or restrictive around my feet. A big toe box to let my feet spread out does help. Thanks for tackling all these crazy issues we humans develop.
Have you tried using toe separators?
I use a soft silicone gel one between my second and big toe and it helps. You may need to experiment with different types and some people use them between every toe. I use a slimmer one when walking and a thicker one at night.
I also use a very soft, small ball which I roll around under my feet. I use one from the 'Melt method' hand & foot kit.
I'm an avid walker but have cut back on my walking for a while to hopefully help the neuroma to heal.
It would definitely help to have a podiatrist do a gait analysis and then make custom orthotics. I had some done a few years back for bunions and they really helped. I have an appointment to have a new gait analysis done as I have since damaged my second toe which has resulted in the neuroma due to the second toe 'drifting' towards the big toe when I walk. I also find Skechers shoes with air cooled memory foam to provide relief when walking around at home (instead of slippers)
I think this will provide a similar cushioning to the mat you refer to.
Good luck !
I'm 27 and these neuromas are ruining my goddamn life. Every dream I've ever had and everything I wanted my life to be is absolutely gone now. I've been hopeless and despondent since discovering what I have and researching it. It feels like my life is over.
I've researched and researched and researched and I know about HOKAs and slides and pads and toe spacers and toe socks and injections and cryosurgery and radio ablation and surgery and so on. If ANY of you know of a support group I can join for this condition, PLEASE reply and let me know. I see a therapist but it's not enough, the mental toll of this condition is just tremendous for me. Thank you.
Well, almost 2 months later and yep, guess this is a permanent disability... welp FML. Gotta wear stupid looking HOKAs with everything I wear. Dress + HOKAs, jumpsuit + HOKAs. Gotta chop my hair short bc I can't stand for too long to wash, dry, straighten my long hair anymore. 27 and my life is down the drain woop woop. 🎉 I'll never feel good about myself ever again.
@@LaurenAltDel❤❤ I feel the same
Does this only get rid of symptoms or will it cure mortons Nueroma from coming back.
I have like an electric shock coming through my middle (3rd) toe.
I don’t know whether this is Morton’s??????
Do salonpas pads on the soles of your feet helpfull?
i have morton's neuroma and its my 3rd and 4th toes in extreme pain not the bottom of my foot. i find alternating between an ice pack and running warm water takes away the pain but it eventually always comes back. i also find wearing bigger shoes or wide toe box shoes helps.
Mine is right at the base of my toes. Hoka 7 shoes help me. But I don’t wear them when I’m working with my horses. Wear inserts in my boots don’t work as well. But I’m definitely seeing a podiatrist.
Ok, I’m confused. I’ve had neuromas for 20+ years, or so I thought. I thought neuromas were right behind the 3rd and 4th toes. A podiatrist injected cortisone years ago into mine. My orthopedic foot surgeon recommended against the shots so I’ve never done it again. I’ve worn orthotics with a metatarsal arch in stiff shoes. Nothing works. The stiff shoes caused other issues! I now go barefoot most of the time at home and wear wide flat sandals or shoes outdoors. That’s worked the best for me. Not perfect, but better.
I've been dealing with this for about 9months now. much worse at night and i wake up finding myself stretching out my 2nd and 3rd toe , bending it forwards and backwards while digging my thumb knuckle into my foot bed to relieve the tightness in there. I add anti inflammatory cream to my feet every night so i can try t get a couple hours sleep. as this Mortons, is only one of my issues, I also have plantar fasciitis and the worst of them all i think is peripheral neuropathy.
I have very wide feet, so maybe that has not helped with this Mortons? Certainly haven't worn high heel for 15yrs.
I was wondering if perhaps there was specific stretches for it?
or just go all out like I dream of and cut those feet and ankles off. lol , then wait for the phantom pain to arrive. Only joking ppl, i know I'm fortunate to have these feet, even though they are monsters. Hard to treat something that has multiple issues is all.
Thanks Bob and Brad, our whole family love you guys and we always check you out for most issues.
kind regards,
julia
Melbourne, Australia.
I have this though mine feels more like bruising than a pebble in my shoe. Do you recommend massage to help the nerve recover? Is going barefoot a good thing for Morton’s Neuroma?
Using big furniture pads has helped my feet. And cheap!
Can you please share what kind or brand name furniture pads? Thank you!
Thanks for the pain relief! I used a ace wrap and folded a bit to make a small triangle (find sweet spot) then loosely wrap around foot n ankle. I think I injured the N nerve when using Voodoo wraps healing a ankle sprain
I've had a neuroma for many years and I only feel it when my sneakers get too worn down on the inside. Then it's time to buy new shoes!
Exactly!! It can be hard to bite the bullet and get new ones but I always think, oh this is much better!!
I have Morton’s Neuroma and the Oofos sandal (flip flop) is the only comfortable footwear I can wear, even was able to walk 5 miles on the beach, & the Oofos Oomg closed toed shoe for casual wear but haven’t found a comfortable hiking shoe so went to a podiatrist and getting custom insoles with metatarsal pads, but cost $500.
Also just read that toe separators you can wear inside a wide toe box shoe, like the brand “Correct Toe” separators, help spread the toes and relieve pressure on the metatarsal pads so just purchased them to try them.
Also read reviews that the brand “Yoga Toes” for toe separators while you sleep and walk barefoot around the house are good too. Ordered those and will try them.
Maybe you doctors could do a video about what you think about toe separators for Morton’s Neuroma. I’d like to hear what you know or find about them.
I get numbness in that area. Kind of feels like my sock is bunched up when it isn't. Is that the same problem?
Both feet are beginning to be numb after years of pain. Surgeon “ loosened” the nerve years ago.....did nothing for the pain! This is such a awful problem. I wear Birkenstocks and wide sneakers.
Would massage across and with the direction of the nerve bundle be advisable since the cause is (in this layman’s terms) scar tissue building up on the irritated nerve?
Great question!
I have this very painful condition. Mine is caused by an injury. I’ve had two steroid injections in ten weeks one under ultrasound . Got orthotics made by a podiatrist.my boots are one size larger and also wider. Nothing helps. I’m at my witts end with this. My arches also collapse (flat feet)
I had this for months, I tried putting3pads inside my work shoes which are wider than my old work shoes. Took a few weeks but it’s a 1000% better. Thank you
I buy orthodic insoles with a metatarsal and arch support, which basically does the same thing but a little more aggressively. Yes, high heels are a thing of the past.
Good lookin calves are hot
@@zendogbreath good legs look great in low heels too.
Thats my point. Heels ruin calves. Hence flats are hot.
How do you know if it's Mortons Neuroma or a stress fracture?
XRay
X ray
I don’t wear any tight fitting sneakers or high heeled shoes, I don’t even own them. Not sure how I got this crap once again.
I had this condition. I was advised to treat it surgically. WORST MISTAKE EVER!!!!! It killed the nerve and left my toes kind of “crumbled” into each other -which they were NOT before! Sadder part is, the podiatrist never said a word about my shoes or switching them!!!!!
Would negative grade heals, like the wide toe boxed Earth Shoes I had back in the 70s help? I haven't seen that brand in decades. Used to wear them to work everyday.
Don't wear high heels 👠👠
I was researching this problem online and came across a woman who saw a flyer hanging on the wall of her podiatrist's office suggesting three basic exercises to do and it solved the problem for her. She didn't say what the exercises were and I haven't found any info online. Is there any physical therapy for this?
Thanks for the explanation. I have it with flat, hard shoes like Topsiders and Keds sometimes and always with tight shoes. Never knew it had a name! I have coped using various inserts that I position around the metatarsal area of my shoes and boots.
My pain was really bad. Took doctors months to figure out what was wrong with my foot until i finally got an mri, i kept on getting injured and unable to walk for days. Ive changed my work shoe to something wider although i still get pain with tighter shoes. Thick insoles and wide shoes help.
@@KoalaBeer. Time, along with bigger shoes with thick insoles really helped me. I haven't had a bad injury again but i can still feel the pain wearing unsupportive shoes (vans/chucks) You can also look into surgery to remove the neuroma.
I spent 6 months in Crocs and since then use trekking sandals to spread toes. Can't tolerate oval toe boxes. Square toe boxes very difficult to find.
Right!? Impossible to find. Look at the shape your foot then look at the shape of the shoe, they expect your foot to conform to an unnatural shape. No wonder there are so many feet problems.
I'm a lady with really small feet. I buy boys' shoes. Lots more comfort in the toes.
I have Morton Neuroma surgery on Oct the 25 th . My wound should have healed by now and it's not. I'm wondering if I'm over walking in a boot all the time. My DR is the best, it's just not healing right. 😢
I’m stuck at home due to the lockdown, and I don’t wear shoes in the house. I am barefoot all the time and just developed a neuroma. Is there anything you can do for your feet while barefoot to stop this painful condition?
Don't go barefoot!! My podiatrist told me to never do that. It's hard in the summer when it's hot but if I'm working around the house and on my feet I always wear my Altra's. I've heard good things about birkenstock, might want to try them.
@@denisevolmering5432 You can go barefoot on carpet, and you absolutely must go barefoot outdoors. Read about Earthing,.
@@denisevolmering5432 I can concur with you on the barefoot. It hurts more without any footwear. I have a pair of FLITFLOPS which must be about 7 years old. They are the ONLY footwear I can use.They cost about 50 quid all those years ago but they have been a life saver.
I've had them in both feet for many years, probably from wearing high heels a lot when I was younger. In the early years, the pain would go away for long periods of time, but now, it's constant. In the worst foot, it feels like there's a balloon with a rock in the center of it. I'm now debating getting surgery for it.
I have something similar but my toes get paralyzed temporarily and my whole underfoot cramps up both feet. I assume it's from years of ballet pointe work 🤷
A remedy for that people swear by (see The People's Pharmacy for this info) is to put a bar of soap under the bottom bed sheet where your feet are. No idea why of course but they swear it works.
I’m a jump roper , always on the balls of my feeet, my 3and 4 toes wanna cramp up, guess I’ll just go to the foot doc soon
What happened to your intro song?!
Technical issues. They out a little blurb in the bottom left of the video in the very beginning.
Technical difficulties it said.
Smile Smile oh, I see. Thanks.
Donna Patton thanks, Donna.
I just want it to go away, how do I accomplish that? Arch supports and all that are great to manage pain but I'm a martial artist, I kick things barefoot and this has sidelined me.
Mine is painful and I need steroid injections. My podiatrist wants to remove the nerve. Can this be treated without surgery?
Help!! Does this pain ever go away. I've done all you suggest with some relief. I'm going on 4 weeks.
I believe I’ve had something similar if not Morton’s neuroma , I’m 23 but for at least 5 years if not longer I’ll get an occasional pain right around the third toe almost to where it’ll stop my mid walk or run whatever I’m doing and I’ve always wondered what it was , it burns and makes my foot hurt. ALSO on my third toe, right in the middle of being on the underside and the inside (imagine the toe as a square and the area I’m talking about is the corner ) there is a reoccurring little bump that is almost like a cyst but it’s about have a grain of rice and it doesn’t get bigger or smaller. I pop it get a tiny tiny bit of fluid out and it returns . Any idea what this could be? It doesn’t look like any cyst or bump I can find on line
So funny, I did the exact same thing by instinct before watching any video, my wife told me this is not medical et you are so cheap ! then I show her your video ans I am a smart guy !