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for years i have been enamoured with the bima tractors, but have never found as much information on them. thank you for making this video and shedding some light on a truly revolutionairy but sadly mostly forgotten engineering masterpiece!
I'm surprised by the amount of positive comments on that video! It definitely deserves them but I'd have never thought that it would be that successful, great job Matheo!
I am actually surprised noone other than Claas stole from this idea. The Xerion is an absolute beast in hilly terrain, tight spots and on silage pits, it´s only limit is the traction you can produce by putting on weights. We have a custom disc implement for the front so we can one pass cultivate and seed in fields you wouldn´t dare drive with something like an 8R or some articulated tractor, their cog is way too high.
Fascinating! Great documentary on a tractor I have never heard of until today. The BIMA tractors do seem to have been way ahead of their time. In fact I have a feeling that some farmers may have looked at these tractors and turned away due to being difficult to repair. Shame that there was not more models built or even worse that if this tractor would be made today with current technology I think it would be a great machine!
I rarelly watch farming related content on youtube, even though i work in the farming industry (manufacturer side, not farmer side), but I need to say that this is a really great documentary. The images choosed to represent the speech are pretty good, the speech itself is of good quality and i learned about a tractor i've never heard before Take my like and my sub!
What an interesting story, it amazes me that something as technologically advanced for it's time never caught on especially looking at some of the modern equipment out there now! As you mentioned Claas maybe has drawn inspiration from this and I wonder if the Syn Trac project did too, either way this is a great piece of history and I thank you so much for putting it all together!
We have owned 2 Versatile BiDi’s and still use the 9030 with 14000+ hours every day still. The concept of cab forward design is perfect for many applications. I often dreamt of building a cab side forage chopper for it, throwing forage over the cab to a trailed wagon to open fields & greenchop. I figured one man could chop & empty wagon into bagger as a 1 man chopping crew. About 15 years ago I bought an old Hesston 7655 side dump forage harvester for that purpose. Some of the old engineering from Bima tractor & versatile BiDi’s & Hesston side dumps were way ahead of their time for smaller farms with limited labor.
What a great informative story on a very rare tractor, it's a shame they never took off and sold in larger numbers but these would make a very good rare tractor to restore.
Świetny akcent... W pierwszej chwili myślałem, że to z okolic Cheshire..., ale kolejne zdania raczej można umiejscowić, gdzieś koło.... Włocławka. 😂😂😂 Pozdr 🎩
Thanks! It's going to be more videos about forgotten tractors and machinery like for example polish Ślązak Tractors or XBR2 Bi-Rotor harvester from USA
Great youtube recommendation for me! Beautiful designed, and I'm sure plenty of horsepower and parts to work with. i wonder if someone can find a sales brochure on them. (I collect). Thank you for providing the all Scources and Materials in the video description. Maybe i will try to 3D model this for farming simulator game.
After watching this video and looking at this unique tractor I think it is a great piece of farm machinery I think it could have been made even greater but I see lots of pieces from that idea that has been used on other farm implement tractors and I think they got their ideas from that bima tractor because it's similarities are just a little bit too close to what that tractor has and I was supposed that they made parts for that tractor somewhat unavailable because other tractor companies were stealing ideas off from it greatest idea I've seen yet on a tractor that long ago
I wonder what was the benefit of being able to control the wheels individually. The electronic and hydraulic system is expensive and has a lot of points of failure in itself, so the benefit needs to be substantial to offset these costs. The articulation would've made everything relatively easy for a mechanical drivetrain, but then hydraulic drive was added.
The maker grew up in a region of France known for it hill side tillage demands. I suspect the multi-wheel independence was designed to over come hillside tillage issues. As for this tractor being adopted in North America, it was designed in a truly European mind set in that 50% of the tillage activity would be pushed ahead of the tractor. North Americans have never adapted this practice beyond a few harvesting tools. The BiMon's utility is lost if this part of the tractor's capability is not utilized.
WOW fantastic insight to this ahead of it’s time tractor!!! So great video!! Is the narrator French OR Dutch?? I love vintage tractors….. I feel like I’ve seen a version of this as a silage harvester pulling a lorry trailer in France 🤔🤔
pretty clever man making a universal tractor the recent tractor makers never seemed to make the tractors as universal as they could be seems they all follow a similar path instead of making the tractors more productive like the BIMA concept we suggested to a US makers agents on how to utilise the tractors more but it probably never got a second thought now it would be handy to have a power unit to run a windrower add a forage chopper unit and the list goes on guess you cant sell multiple units if you have one does all
It wasnt 40 years ahead of time... It never had its time, because no large manufacturer today, 40 years later, is using its ideas.... It was so odd, that it never had the chance to become mainstream. MB-Trac, In-Trac, Fendt GTA tool carriers were around in the same time with the same front and back toolcarrying capacities. Also, using a rotavator as a tillage tool in large scale farming was an idea that was already outdated in the late 1980s.
Very nice and great to see this eccentric beasts at work The ealy RABA tractors look a bit like this But not nearly so technically advanced !!??!! Thankyou for the great commentary!
@@MatheoMisiak Hi Matheo , I love weird machinery too ! I,m very interested in green construction machine,s Pioneer machines Look forward to the Raba story Best regards Mark
@@MatheoMisiak I agree with you on that. No doubt this tractor set bench marks for others to follow and learn from. The ones that are in fence rows should be saved before there’s nothing left of them.
@@cmc3780 stay tuned for more videos, I have a big collection of this type interesting machines (especially polish and european, but american also) I collect this knowledge since I was a child 😊
fun fact Bidon in french mean barrel or jug but is also used as an adjective to say fake or worthless, no wonder he didn't name his tractor brand "Bidon"
oh luckily something i though about when seeing your video just popped in my suggestion. You might want to give it a look: ua-cam.com/video/bwnRrvtuNJM/v-deo.html
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@@MatheoMisiak вай какая великолепная реакция. Уважение. Мира и добра нам всем 😄. На субтитрах перевод корректный будет? Трактор интересный, но от английского устаю быстро. С трех заходов смотреть пришлось
@@d.c.9846 субтитры добавляются автоматически, поэтому я не знаю, правильны ли они. Мой русский язык очень плохой, поэтому я предпочитаю говорить по-английски.
"ahead of it's time"... A machine is supposed to ease your workload, to help you, to make your life easier! If a machine isn't beeing used by people it's not ahead of it's time, it just failed and doesn't do what the operators need it to do (make their lifes EASIER). If something is too expensive it doesn't ease your life. If something is too complicated it doesn't ease your life. This machine was crap and nothing else.
if it were as you say, we would still be plowing the field with horses...🙂 We need innovation and continuous development of machines to make our work faster, more efficient and easier
@@MatheoMisiak You are wrong. The machines we see today ARE as I said. They do help. They make our life easier! There has no machine to this day that was "ahead of it's time". Nobody ever, EVER, dug an old machine up and thought: wow - that's it! Either machines set the new standard, are the standard or they fail.
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LeTourneau: mover of men and mountains. Good book.
for years i have been enamoured with the bima tractors, but have never found as much information on them. thank you for making this video and shedding some light on a truly revolutionairy but sadly mostly forgotten engineering masterpiece!
I'm surprised by the amount of positive comments on that video! It definitely deserves them but I'd have never thought that it would be that successful, great job Matheo!
I am actually surprised noone other than Claas stole from this idea. The Xerion is an absolute beast in hilly terrain, tight spots and on silage pits, it´s only limit is the traction you can produce by putting on weights. We have a custom disc implement for the front so we can one pass cultivate and seed in fields you wouldn´t dare drive with something like an 8R or some articulated tractor, their cog is way too high.
Ford/Versatile made the Bidirectional I think in the late 80's, correct me if I'm wrong on that. It wasn't really considered high horsepower though.
I had an xerion, great tractor!
The big MB-trac series are also bidirectional optional.
I have watched every video and love them!
Fascinating! Great documentary on a tractor I have never heard of until today. The BIMA tractors do seem to have been way ahead of their time. In fact I have a feeling that some farmers may have looked at these tractors and turned away due to being difficult to repair. Shame that there was not more models built or even worse that if this tractor would be made today with current technology I think it would be a great machine!
I rarelly watch farming related content on youtube, even though i work in the farming industry (manufacturer side, not farmer side), but I need to say that this is a really great documentary. The images choosed to represent the speech are pretty good, the speech itself is of good quality and i learned about a tractor i've never heard before
Take my like and my sub!
Excellent 👍
What an interesting story, it amazes me that something as technologically advanced for it's time never caught on especially looking at some of the modern equipment out there now! As you mentioned Claas maybe has drawn inspiration from this and I wonder if the Syn Trac project did too, either way this is a great piece of history and I thank you so much for putting it all together!
Thanks, I'm planning more videos about interesting tractors, machinery and heavy equipment stuff
@@MatheoMisiak Wonderful, I look forward to seeing what comes next!
What A Tractor and what a shame, that their no longer being made. Good video, keep up good work.
Wonderful discovery 👍
Given its weight distribution as shown in the last model, I'm surprised the BIMA didn't attract attention in the U.S.
We have owned 2 Versatile BiDi’s and still use the 9030 with 14000+ hours every day still. The concept of cab forward design is perfect for many applications. I often dreamt of building a cab side forage chopper for it, throwing forage over the cab to a trailed wagon to open fields & greenchop. I figured one man could chop & empty wagon into bagger as a 1 man chopping crew. About 15 years ago I bought an old Hesston 7655 side dump forage harvester for that purpose. Some of the old engineering from Bima tractor & versatile BiDi’s & Hesston side dumps were way ahead of their time for smaller farms with limited labor.
Search for lettings champion 3000 and lacotec, a drum adaptor to it.
Brilliant documentary about a fascinating machine! Thank you :)
What a great informative story on a very rare tractor, it's a shame they never took off and sold in larger numbers but these would make a very good rare tractor to restore.
Oooo co za zmian. Jak dla mnie może być 😲💪😁
Cool!!!! Thank you for your documentary!!! It's a really fascinating technique, like Schlüter tractors
You’re welcome!🙂
Awesome video, thankyou for the English narration
Świetnie mówisz po angielsku powodzenia
I remember the Bima from a VHS i got as a kid, Big Tractors 2 or 3 i belive. They showed the BIMA and Schluter as well :)
Świetny akcent...
W pierwszej chwili myślałem, że to z okolic Cheshire..., ale kolejne zdania raczej można umiejscowić, gdzieś koło.... Włocławka.
😂😂😂
Pozdr 🎩
I do my best 🙂
Excellent, I remember reading about the tractors in the UK at the time.
Thanks! It's going to be more videos about forgotten tractors and machinery like for example polish Ślązak Tractors or XBR2 Bi-Rotor harvester from USA
Great youtube recommendation for me! Beautiful designed, and I'm sure plenty of horsepower and parts to work with. i wonder if someone can find a sales brochure on them. (I collect). Thank you for providing the all Scources and Materials in the video description. Maybe i will try to 3D model this for farming simulator game.
I can send you orginal sources I have because most of them I scanned from old newspapers etc. Contact me by email from my channel description 🙂
hello, where is the brochure pictures at 7:07 from?
to be honest I don't know. I collect this type of brochures for a long time
Taktyczny wypokowy koment dla zasięgu😀
Fajnie że poszerzasz horyzonty 😀👍
Zasięgi zapowiadają się fajne patrząc już po pierwszym odcinku 🤯 trzymam kciuki 🤠👍
After watching this video and looking at this unique tractor I think it is a great piece of farm machinery I think it could have been made even greater but I see lots of pieces from that idea that has been used on other farm implement tractors and I think they got their ideas from that bima tractor because it's similarities are just a little bit too close to what that tractor has and I was supposed that they made parts for that tractor somewhat unavailable because other tractor companies were stealing ideas off from it greatest idea I've seen yet on a tractor that long ago
Mateo taka wersja eksportowa 💪💪
Dobre dobre dobre dobre 😂
hello, which is the spanish company where was assambled the last model? thanks
I wonder what was the benefit of being able to control the wheels individually. The electronic and hydraulic system is expensive and has a lot of points of failure in itself, so the benefit needs to be substantial to offset these costs. The articulation would've made everything relatively easy for a mechanical drivetrain, but then hydraulic drive was added.
Take a look on Fendt Vario Drive solution from 1050/900 Vario - it is similar. It's all about power managment in difficult work conditions e.g. mud 🙂
The maker grew up in a region of France known for it hill side tillage demands. I suspect the multi-wheel independence was designed to over come hillside tillage issues. As for this tractor being adopted in North America, it was designed in a truly European mind set in that 50% of the tillage activity would be pushed ahead of the tractor. North Americans have never adapted this practice beyond a few harvesting tools. The BiMon's utility is lost if this part of the tractor's capability is not utilized.
Nice video :) Have a nice day
The Last one is Nice looking imo.
Good job👌👌👌👌
a lot different to the ones I drive today but very interesting.
WOW fantastic insight to this ahead of it’s time tractor!!! So great video!! Is the narrator French OR Dutch?? I love vintage tractors….. I feel like I’ve seen a version of this as a silage harvester pulling a lorry trailer in France 🤔🤔
Hi! I'm from Poland, but I'm interested in tractors, machines and other heavy equipment from around the world 😊
@@MatheoMisiak hi mathematics grea
Hi matheo great video look forward to hearing about more mechanical dreamers
Very interesting, thank you
Thank you! It is going to be more videos about forgotten tractors and machinery brands!🙂
Good English, Matheus. 🤓🤠🤙
pretty clever man making a universal tractor the recent tractor makers never seemed to make the tractors as universal as they could be seems they all follow a similar path instead of making the tractors more productive like the BIMA concept
we suggested to a US makers agents on how to utilise the tractors more but it probably never got a second thought
now it would be handy to have a power unit to run a windrower add a forage chopper unit and the list goes on guess you cant sell multiple units if you have one does all
It wasnt 40 years ahead of time... It never had its time, because no large manufacturer today, 40 years later, is using its ideas....
It was so odd, that it never had the chance to become mainstream. MB-Trac, In-Trac, Fendt GTA tool carriers were around in the same time with the same front and back toolcarrying capacities.
Also, using a rotavator as a tillage tool in large scale farming was an idea that was already outdated in the late 1980s.
Matheo Kiedy Lista Twoich ulbionych ciágników Lat 70 80 90
English from Polish school 😅 everything is easy to translate and understand 😉
Very nice and great to see this eccentric beasts at work The ealy RABA tractors look a bit like this But not nearly so technically advanced !!??!!
Thankyou for the great commentary!
I will make a video about RABA - I know a lot about them :)
@@MatheoMisiak Hi Matheo , I love weird machinery too !
I,m very interested in green construction machine,s
Pioneer machines
Look forward to the Raba story
Best regards Mark
@@markgibson532 if you like weird machinery take a look into Valmet 1502 from Finland😁
Panie, ja nic nie panimaju 🙆♂️😳
You should research this guy. I believe he was first with electric over hydraulic controls in 40s. R.G. LeTourneau
Makes me wonder if this tractor is what gave New Holland the idea for the Bi-directional
That was Versatile Tractors
What about CLAAS XERION? It is also similar construction from Germany. It has a CVT transmission and rotating cab?🤔
@@MatheoMisiak I agree with you on that. No doubt this tractor set bench marks for others to follow and learn from. The ones that are in fence rows should be saved before there’s nothing left of them.
@@cmc3780 stay tuned for more videos, I have a big collection of this type interesting machines (especially polish and european, but american also) I collect this knowledge since I was a child 😊
Well, who's going to build it for Farming Simulator so the tractor can live on in the digital realm??
I can share my materials to help preparing the 3D model🙂
fun fact Bidon in french mean barrel or jug but is also used as an adjective to say fake or worthless, no wonder he didn't name his tractor brand "Bidon"
In polish word "Bidon" means a vessel for water
@@MatheoMisiak a vessel bigger than a bottle and smaller than a barrel that is pretty much what we call a "bidon".
oh luckily something i though about when seeing your video just popped in my suggestion. You might want to give it a look:
ua-cam.com/video/bwnRrvtuNJM/v-deo.html
@@flo__60 yes, in Poland bidon is a vessel/bottle you can bring with you for a trip or attach to a bike
Nic nie zrozumiałem xddd 😂
Weird that the used a V10 to generate 150HP. That and the hydraulic transmission must have resulted in pretty poor efficiency.
Super ze rozwijasz działalność world-wide. Nie uważasz że szkoda dzielić content a za tym publiczność i suby ana dwa kanały? Filmy po angielsku na kanale "mechanizatorow" też by zrobil robotę moim zdaniem. Wiem że obawiałeś się ciut o swój angielski swojego czasu na głównym kanale. Nie jest źle. Jest zrozumiale, ale jeśli byś chciał poprawić akcent i zdobyć trochę więcej pewności to polecam kilka zajęć z native speakerem i poczujesz znaczną poprawę w wymowie a pewność w posługiwaniu się angielskim wystrzeli wysoko w górę. Keep up and see you next time :D
Na kanale Matheo780 większość widowni jest Polska i nikt tam angielskich nagrań oglądać nie będzie, co może być zabójcze dla algorytmu
Do you speak polish bo ja niewiem co ty pier...
mateo780 to polski kanał
Varför har du så mycket extra ljud? Det låter som störningar.
I don't know what you mean
Братан у тебя просто восхитительный Русский акцент!
Я поляк, но все равно спасибо 😅😊
@@MatheoMisiak вай какая великолепная реакция. Уважение. Мира и добра нам всем 😄. На субтитрах перевод корректный будет? Трактор интересный, но от английского устаю быстро. С трех заходов смотреть пришлось
@@d.c.9846 субтитры добавляются автоматически, поэтому я не знаю, правильны ли они. Мой русский язык очень плохой, поэтому я предпочитаю говорить по-английски.
@@MatheoMisiak делай на польском. Пусть мы все учим 👍😝
Я уже сделал этот выпуск на польском языке на моем втором польском канале😅 ua-cam.com/video/hkpuBHWfXFA/v-deo.html
👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺
Ja Ja very interesujące
Jo
Папа Claas Xerion
"ahead of it's time"...
A machine is supposed to ease your workload, to help you, to make your life easier!
If a machine isn't beeing used by people it's not ahead of it's time, it just failed and doesn't do what the operators need it to do (make their lifes EASIER). If something is too expensive it doesn't ease your life. If something is too complicated it doesn't ease your life.
This machine was crap and nothing else.
if it were as you say, we would still be plowing the field with horses...🙂 We need innovation and continuous development of machines to make our work faster, more efficient and easier
@@MatheoMisiak You are wrong. The machines we see today ARE as I said.
They do help. They make our life easier!
There has no machine to this day that was "ahead of it's time". Nobody ever, EVER, dug an old machine up and thought: wow - that's it!
Either machines set the new standard, are the standard or they fail.
Dzadu muw po Polsku ....!!!!!!!!!
Dziadu pisz po polsku