Installing Windows 7 on the $5 Windows 98 PC!
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Yes, it's finally time to get Windows 7 running on this old computer. Let's see how easy it is, shall we?
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Get Geforce 6200 PCI since it has support from Windows 95 to Windows 8, which is quite a huge range of OS support.
This is exactly what I love about Nvidia.
Most often when looking at older mid 2000's or early 2010's era business laptops, other hardware is more than ready and powerful enough to run windows 10.
But because Intel has dropped the driver support for the motherboard, those computers don't have working display drivers.
Meanwhile my cheap hp pavilion dv6732eo laptop with it's defective Nvidia m8400gs gpu, still has working drivers for windows 10.
So even though those 8xxx and 9xxx mobile gpu's were basically ticking time bombs, that without reflowing them once per 2 years would stop working. If you have one of those still working, while not actually no longer supported, it still can boot and support it's every feature in latest version of windows 10.
Not bad for a laptop that basically teached me, that anything with hp is worth keeping far FAR away from anyone who you care about.
@@Jurtaani*taught
i use 9300GE PCI-E on my downloading PC to save the power, the gpu was GTX980 when i play games on it
Yess
Install Windows 7 on EGA Video Card
Windows 7 ❤️
😒👍 Hell Yeah
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@M-2 Hydra 😎👍 me too
Windows 7 master race! 7️⃣💪
Yey
I knew it was going to work. I have a P3 and 512mb of ram and has Windows 7 on it. It was a lite version because I wasn't sure if it would work, but here you are installing full Windows 7. TL:DR, thanks for the video.
Dollar Deal Tech What if he used a usb dvd drive?
What lite version did you install on that pent3 ?
I have a system like yours but with 640MB of RAM.
@@Adrian-re9fh Tiny7
This video proves what I have been saying for years- Windows 7 will run on nearly anything lol. I have an old HP Livestrong laptop from 2004 that's running Windows 7 just fine with 2GB RAM, a 1.8 ghz single core AMD Turion CPU, and a 60GB SSD. Before that I had an old Sony Vaio from around the same time with a 1.6 ghz single core Pentium, 512MB of RAM, and an 80GB hard drive. That thing was far from fast, but it was still totally usable and stable until the motherboard died.
Is it just me it does every vaio laptop die from motherboard issues. Had one too and it died the same way.
8:11 You thought about transferring the Windows 7 iso to the hard drive using a USB via windows vista, then mount the iso with a lightweight software like WinCDEMU, and continue with the installation on the new partition
I was messing with similar problems 20 years ago. I think the problem why the CDs didn't boot is the UDF file system that your images are in. UDF was more common for DVDs. It was possible to burn UDF CDs, but that was a rather uncommon thing to do and it probably confused the PC at some point.
Playing a DVD movie with. $ 5 pc ? & Bluetooth
It will work.
without any problems.
Ronald Jankowski Not necessarily. Maybe it's not fast enough to decode DVD
If it has hardware decoding then it will play just fine
I used my P3-500 (768mb RAM) to watch DVDs all the time. It did pretty much suck up all the CPU, but worked fine.
Playing a 4k HDR HEVC movie
If installing Windows 7 from the GUI setup fails, do this:
- Make a WinPE CD image
- Boot into that from the USB drive using PLOP boot manager
- Use command line utilities to dump an image to the hard drive (diskpart and DISM)
Also, try increasing the FSB (front side bus) speed to get the processor speed up to 800Mhz. On your board, this requires setting the appropriate jumpers.
I have been waiting for this so long!
I adore the idea of having 1 pc go through all the ages. Cool!
he should totally do DOS, Win 1, Win 2, Win 3, Win 3.1, WinNT 3.1, WinNT 3.5, WinNT 3.51, Win 95, WinNT 4, Win95 OSR2, Win 98, Win98 SE, Win Me, Win 2000, Win XP, Win Vista, Win 7 and the first dev preview of Win 8!
@@RWL2012 And the betas
@@RWL2012 skip the versions that are just named NT version num.
Just a note, it would be worth investing into some re-writable DVDs, being able to format them and put something else on them is extremely useful for computer projects involving ISOs
I actually purchased some rewritable CDs to use!
Wohoo this is the video I've been waiting for!
our window 98 machine (very similar to this one) had a dvd drive.
that was a big thing at that time
@@guilhermekfwst Pentium IIs with DVD-ROM came with an MPEG card as the CPU was too slow for DVD Video playback!
I remember the sample DVD they included with purchase of the machine.. The quality of the videos on it was not that good lol. Good times
I have booted off of dvd drives on K5/K6. That PIII shouldnt have any problem.
because you added one
I love this series make more my dude :)
I haven't seen to the end yet but I'm at 7:42. I noticed it showed UDF when you were in windows. UDF is the DVD file system format. CDs use ISO-9660 file systems. It could be that the CD ROM just can't figure out what to do, or the bios does not have a way to understand a UDF boot sector from a CD?
Oh, I'm definitely trying this with mine.
If the motherboard has jumpers you need to set the frontside bus speed required by the cpu. If there are no jumpers have a look through the bios setup to see if there is a toggle value for the speed between 100 and 133 MHz. Hope this helps increase the speed of your win 98 machine.
The storage upgrade video would be fun. These videos have helped so much. What kind of DVD drive did you pick?
I'm curious to see what you may make of trying to find bios updates for the thing.
Yeah I’ll have another video on Friday of me attempting to upgrade the bios. I just purchased a generic OEM DVD drive. I believe it was pulled out of an old system.
Its never a classic mjd video without him running into problems
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MJD I been a subscriber for a long time and I love your $5 windows 95 pc videos, thismorning I found someone threw away 2 PC crt monitors and a AST Advantage 9314 windows 95 pc, I cleaned it out and checked for anything missing and everything was intact and it booted right into windows 95 those times were gold back then, you’ve inspired me, Thankyou. P.S is there anything I need to know when working with this old rig,
Mjd one more thing, I found that the CD-ROM drive is a exact version of yours but, I cannot get the cd motor to spin, the cd tray pops out but there is no scanning of the disk or spinning of the disk and windows 95 says there is no disk in the tray, what can I do, I don’t want to break it
Michael great video! I would have used PLOP Boot Manager and been done with it.
Wow lol best vid ever big like man i like experimental tehnology videos! Omg big like and nice!
Plop bootloader doesn't support writing if I remember correctly. It can only read and load the files and cannot write to the USB Drive
Enjoying this series with the $5 PC. Let's get all the goodies to make this the best potato it can be!
You should try to hackintosh it with a old version of macOS.
Old versions of MacOS require a Motorola CPU. I'm not sure it can be done on a non-Intel CPU or before OSX. (I have 10.8 on a Dell 9010 -- everything worked out of the box except the NIC.) But would be interesting to see the attempt... try one of the early Niresh builds, I think 10.4 is the earliest. If it does run, it'll probably take a good 15 minutes or more to load setup (it took about that long when I tried it on a 2GHz system -- at first I thought it was hung).
@@Reziac I used to run OS8 under Fusion under MS-DOS on a Pentium2...
OS X Leopard might work..?
Wouldn’t work OSX for intel requires sse2
rhapsody dr2 is a beta of os x 10.0 and has version for x86
Awesome video,Michael!
Thanks!
Would you install a Linux distro? Maybe something like Debian which is 32 bit compatible and has a net installer you can burn on a CD
You can fix the resolution issue by installing the xp driver. (XDDM) Run the setup in XP compatibility mode. Setup should run fine but if it does fail it should have still copied to the driver folder in windows. After that go to device manager then manually install the driver. I've done this on my Dell dimension 2400. With the Intel 845g graphics. Hope this helps! This works for Vista and windows 7!
Very nice! I was able to get windows seven professional and 32 bit installed on a dell Inspiron 9300 from 2005. It has 2 GB of RAM an Intel Pentium M7 80 clocked at 2.26, Bluetooth, and a 250 GB ID E western digital blue. It’s not going to win any speed records but, it runs, and Microsoft security essentials is still downloading definition updates. I did not have nearly the same difficulties with getting that installed. Using the Dell OS recovery tool I downloaded a Windows 7 32 bit professional ISO, mounted it onto a thumb drive, and installed using the one time boot menu. Took an entire weekend to download all of the Windows 7 updates however! Even through a 100 Mbps ethernet connection
Again great video 👍
thank you!
Could you go over how to install USB 3.0 drivers to windows 7/windows 7 installation, please? Thanks!
Why not run windows 7 usb installer from within vista and do an in place upgrade?
I have a suggestion: Can you try out installing a modern Linux distribution like Debian or Slackware, but instead of installing a DE at first, you do a minimal install and then install a lightweight window manager like Openbox or IceWM. And the some lightweight programs like Dillo and Links2 for web browsers.
Why didn't you just copy all the contents of the standard Windows 7 ISO (on the USB drive) to the hard disk and just run setup and select "Custom Install" so as to not upgrade Vista? It worked for me in a similar scenario
You would probably run hiren's boot cd/mini xp and use winntsetup tool to install/copy win7 setup files onto hdd and a reboot would start straight to phase 2.
I'm asking myself if it is an UDF or ISO 9660 file system on CD.
That would maybe be a reason for the old BIOS to not boot from it.
It can't work with win8 and win10 because of the missing PAE/NX, who are specific instructions for the processor. You can patch it but it's very difficult because the tools to do this are unfindable
I miss windows 7 and its simplicity whenever I see such videos! I still have my old Athlon x2 3600 PC with 2 GB RAM and 256 GB graphics card; It's hooked to my TV and I use it to play some retro games like NFS MW! good times!
256GB graphics card sounds extreme for just playing old games
windows 7 is perhaps the most stable version of windows, absolutely love it
It's a more stable version of Vista for sure, all though Vista with SP2 and updates is probably just as stable, Windows 7 was a rebrand of Vista for the most part, that said the Windows 7 on the video is a lighter version of Win7
@@alvzcizzler Yes, Vista is pretty stable too. I had Vista for a long time before getting a new PC
I'm interested in running Outlook Express on win 7 or win 10...?
Definitely do a video using a Compact flash for Hard drive, that will be interesting AND useful thanks in advance
The fact it runs faster then my windows 7 laptop is scary
Hey Michael. I know this isn't what you asked for in the video, but you could maybe try out some other Linux distro on this PC, like for example Tiny Core Linux, Linux Lite OR maybe even something that uses the i3 (or similiar) window manager?
Strange how Windows 7 super lite didn't work for you. I have it burned to a CD and it boots and installs just as normal
Good trick to install OS’es without using DVD’s:
1) Divide the intended hard drive into two partitions- a ~5gb partition, and the remaining space in another partition
2) Extract the ISO onto the 5gb partition
3)Boot from the hard drive, should load installation as normal and allow you to install to the other partition
If you don’t have an OS, plug the hard drive into another PC and do the same thing. Hope this helps, it should also reduce install time by quite a bit. I’ve had to do this on a few occasions lol 👍
Xubuntu or arch running on xfce desktop would breathe new life into that computer
THANK U MICHAEL FOR SEEING MY COMMENT AND USING MY IDEA😻😻
Finally you have listened to me:-)
Ik I'm late, but could you try running Lubuntu and see how it fairs as an everyday computer.
It is possible to install windows 8 with patches to install without pae nx and sse2
Could you install lubuntu and try doing some modern tasks?
To get work the animations of windows media center on this pc you must have graphic drivers installed
which software can make window 7 continued update the firewall when official support been stop
Win 7 posready
@veryfatchild better than those China mainland people.
Why didn't you use Rufus , It works by inserting the iso image and then putting it in a USB drive so it turns into a bootable USB drive
14:23 this error also comes up when you make a vm with windows 7 on VMware workstation without changing the settings a little bit
Since Vista have picked up your WiFi adapter you should even be able to mount iso on your main computer and share contents through the network and run setup directly from SMB share
you're needing todo windows 8
Why don't you create your own Windows 7 installation CDs just by splitting the super huge wim file into swm files which are suitable for CD-R?
Those vista ui stuff be looking real thicc.
What slots do you have available? I have extra old cards lying around. AGP, PCIE and possibly PCI. I can send you one if I can dig them up. They are all gaming cards.
Hey sorry for the late reply but thanks for offering! This machine has a free PCI slot so if you happen to have one of those lying around that would be awesome. If you're still interesting in donating one, just send and email to michael at teammjd dot com, and I can give you the shipping address. If not, that's totally fine! Thanks so much!
Will Miss you windows 7 ❤️
Isn't the ideal Windows for this PC the "Windows Essentials for Legacy PCs", which you made a video a long time ago but in a virtual machine?
Yes you could say that! I actually did install FLP on this computer in an older video.
I've had a few pc's where they wouldn't boot from the win7 image i have and the way I worked around it was by booting into the already installed os and running the setup.exe and over-riding the os
Wonder how reliable the optical drive is on this pc.
You can play videos files in full screen??
The eternal 98 PC is more capable than I thought it would be
In the setup, a few years ago I put 312 ram on a machine and tried to install 7 and it said that the minimum was 512 ram
Very cool. And how’s the speed
I loved how Windows XP guy's head was shaking at 13:41
i heard P6S5AT motherboard supports both DDR memory and Tualatin processor
Why have you put the old Celeron back in it and not left the Pentium 3 as it says 433 Mhz in the Bios ?
The CPU upgrade video was shot in between 2 parts of this video.
@@MichaelMJDhe obviously didn't watch the whole video. btw it seems the first developer preview of Windows 8 will work on this; any builds after that ask for instructions the PIII doesn't have.
did you see my comments about the "256mb RAM max" probably being for single sided sticks, the "weird" CPU name being its "string" rather than marketing name (I have a feeling you might have seen that one) and the Gateway 2000 branded Altec Lansing "beige" speakers...?
Try installing gentoo
Could you also try Windows XP on it? Just an normal version like RTM, SP1, SP2 and SP3.
I did in another video actually! Is the one called “pushing the 98 PC to its limits”
@@MichaelMJD Could you also try Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows NT 3.x on this computer?
@ Michael MJD
You should add a video card to that PC and disable the onboard graphics.
It’s definitely a possibility!
Why are you not able to access storage?
😒👍 Windows 7 FTW, try Tiny 7 it mite run better, its similar it fits on one CD 🙂🐢
He saw that
@@MrSamadolfo not welcome btw
have you tried or heard of ReadyBoost by add memory with flash drive?
not going to work the usb ports in this machine is 1.0,1.1 at best its too slow for ready boost
ReadyBoost never works
@@whitebeartigtig well it does but its not noticable becose basicly its just paging on slow usb storage instead of faster hdd
You should use CD-RW disks.
GPU recommended: Riva or Voodoo.
Can confirm, CD-RW disks are where it's at. Dual-booted Windows 2000 and XP on the same PC using only one CD-RW disk to install both. Though I'm not sure if the old drive in this Gateway supports them.
90W PSU...
pls install the drivers on both windows version. windows vista and windows 7 has compatibility with windows xp drivers (if there is drivers for windows xp for the 5$ 98 pc)
Try to make a live Windows 10 or 8 installation using WinToUSB on a flash drive or external hard drive. Then use the Plop boot manager to boot into USB/ external flash drive containg the live Win10/Win8.1/Win8 installation.
I know I'm a bit late, but you should try to install Windows Thin PC, it's a official stripped down version of Windows 7 made for legacy hardware (like this 5$ PC) and should work much better and faster than the regular version of Windows 7.
also there is a graphics card that u need for this!! Zotac geforce gt 610 PCI. It will probably be hard to find and expensive but it will run aero effects and should work in most older pc's with no agp or pci-e!
1:11
While 1 GB is the officially stated minimum for Windows 7 32 bit, the thing is, the installer doesn't actually check, and will still install on only 512 MB.
what after windows 11?
You could have used the window 7 upgrade tool inside the .iso even without a usb. Just extra the iso files and then run it as a normal application
How can i find seem this pc
Do you know how to use Clonezilla to make an image backup of the entire HDD so you can put it back to a known state? If not you should learn. I love Gateway computers!
I have done a video on this very thing actually!
Even an ancient P233 with DOS can use a DVD drive. BIOS may only see it as a CD, but makes no difference. Even the ancient DOS OakCD driver works fine. Did you check jumpers on the new drive? Anyway, pretty cool to see it running Win7 so well. For a GPU, look for a Matrox G200 (comes in PCI and AGP) -- that was the default video card for Gateways of that era that used a VGA card. 8mb cards are common, 16mb less so. Very reliable vidcard and period-correct.
...but will it run on the 90W PSU...?
Maybe, maybe not. With an SSD instead of a spinny, that would take considerable load off the PSU. But the onboard chip might well be a G200, as that was Gateway's default for a long time, either as a card or onboard. (Dell still puts a G200 in their servers; very reliable chip.) In which case, really not much point in a separate GPU. There may be a video RAM setting in the BIOS.
I wonder if the $5 Windows 98 computer can run Windows Server 2003 or Temple OS.
I was able to install Windows 7 Starter on 256 MB of RAM through Windows 7 PE. I manually extracted the WIM archive from the command prompt. It took a while, but it actually worked! Easily my dumbest computing accomplishment! 😂
you could use dism to install windows 7+ on partition and use bcdedit like easybcd to set multi boot
I wish you could find a Gateway monitor for that computer. Seeing it working with a Dell monitor bugs me to no end.
Yes, I'm one of "those". 8P
Pleaae do a GPU upgrade. Nothing crazy, but I believe with your PCI slot, you could get something new enough for drivers for 7, but I doubt anything new enough for Windows Aero, but that might kill the PC even if it works.
Now after you install a GPU and ssd try to install geforce now.
Yessss
Bob staring into my soul as usual
That Cpu can address more than 512mb of ram, you need to get a bios update. There will be no GPU for that motherboard that will support Areo. However you can download, Win Transparency, Gadgets, and winflip, from other third parties, that would make that windows 7 behave like it was installed a newer machine, those programs also work in WinXp as well, or for windows Xp you can just download a 'Win7 Transformation pack' (Try Google) from a third party site. I've been using one for years.
P.S. I was screaming just install it in windows. lol
You can run the installer without restarting. Just go to sources, and then, the setup.exe. You could have saved alot of time.
A video I wanted to see all the way from the beginning of the $5 98 PC!
Thanks for the theme and keep up the great work!
Some notes to the video:
1. You could've tried to use PLOP and try to boot from that CD/DVD... has worked for me before.
2. You can also use PLOP to boot of USB drives if your PC doesn't support USB Boot!
3. Use Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool from Microsoft to burn DVDs and USBs. Also works for CDs!
Anyways, great video.
I mentioned in the video that using Plop to boot this machine off of a USB didn't work for both Vista and 7. It loaded up but it froze when it was loading files. I have been able to do this with Linux images though. I will have to try to use Plop to boot of a DVD now that I have the drive, didn't think of that at the time haha. Thanks for the tip!
I just realized I have this exact PC
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