What if Russia Restored Byzantium in 1790?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2024
- You watch this video, because you’re in love with Byzantium, and the Roman Empire, so what if Byzantium returned in the 18th century? Russia had a plan to restore Byzantium and destroy the Ottoman Empire. How is that possible, and what would it look like, let us find out!
Russia at the beginning of the 18th century was an emerging power, with great potential. Russia was lacking in one thing; this is access to the world’s oceans and trade. Sweden and Poland-Lithuania were blockading the Baltic Sea, with the Ottoman Empire controlling the Black Sea, together with their vassal of the Crimean Khanate.
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00:00 - Video Intro
GLORY TO ROME 🇮🇹🇬🇷
Glory to Byzantium!
@@rewriting-history YES
And to the empire of Russia 🇷🇺 for rome
Glory to Rome! 🇦🇱
Glory to Byzantium! 🇳🇺🇳🇺@@senatethewinstonchurchill
Every alternate history enjoyer have their own scenario in their head
most of them include revive Byzantine
They do! I really like this scenario
Yep
Ah playing HOI4 and reviving Byzantium, my favorite pass time
Because Byzantium is glorious!
As a Greek, I can only dream
Hello Greek brother, I have made several videos on Greece, including the Megali Idea, have you seen these, they're also pretty cool?
Eh re Malaka the russsians did us so dirty the native Greeks of crimea Caucasus and anatolia all were slaughtered deported erased from our home land and the Russians helped all while saying they wanted to protect the Christians.
@@TheodoreIosifidis-gx4qbtypical russian way, greeks and turks can agree on that
As a Turk, i can agree that you can only dream
@@Aix7199 lmfao
ottoman empire: ha ha i destroyed the byzantium
europeans: ok lol we will re-build it
ottoman empire: on ho
hahha nice!
Bob the builder can we fix it? Bob the builder YES WE CAN!
@@rewriting-history🫡🫡🫡🫡
didn't happen
Suggestions:
• What if Poland followed the Piast doctrine (pushing for post-WW2 borders but in the 1920s)?
• What if the 8-Nation Alliance lost to the Chinese in 1900?
• What if Cyprus seceded and joined Greece in the 1830s (which would negate the whole Ottoman treaty with the British)?
• What if Serbia and Romania united in the 1870s?
Woah Serbia and Romania could have united at some point? That's news to me cool.
@@BigScreamingBaby nah, just something out of pocket. He did a scenario already about Serbia uniting with Bulgaria to create Yugoslavia before WW1, and he did a scenario about Bulgaria uniting with Romania. Now it's time to see Serbia x Romania. It's just hypothetical.
Ç@@BigScreamingBaby
@@NovikNikolovic yeah but the Bulgaria one was an actual proposal that could have happened if Bulgaria chose the King if Serbia as their king after ousting the former one I don't see how Romania and Serbia could have united as neither of their Dynasties held claim to the others throne.
@@NGHTKNG Č
I saw in your profile that you're from Bulgaria, but it's amazing how your accent REALLY sounds like someone who speaks Portuguese, first thing I thought when I heard you was "does he have a Portuguese channel?".
Anyway, amazing video!
This is a great video for a part 2! You did really good with this video, buddy!
Suggestion man: What if Edward VI survived to continue the tudor Dynasty? Keep up the good work
Considering how much of English history was affected by Elizabeth I’s reign and how that wouldn’t happen in that scenario, it would be rather interesting
@@rosoven3471yeah Elizabeth not be in queen completely changes english relations with Spain and france
Loved the stream! You're amazing man! Suggestion: What if leopold accepted the greek throne?
Appreciate the suggestion and I'm glad you liked the video!
@@rewriting-history Always
Hi sorry I can’t watch the premiere I’m on a trip and Can’t listen right now Can’t wait to watch this at 8pm gmt
Video idea: what if the ottomans didn't conquer the Balkans.
The moment I heard your accent I immediately knew you are from Bulgaria. Greetings!🎉
Russia would have completely ended the existence of the Ottoman Empire but France and Britain didn’t want to become Russia too powerful…
Highly doubt it
???? Crimean War?? Hello?
1877@@michalbenes1996
@@michalbenes1996yea a war the ottomans only won because the british and french stepped in 💀
I LOVE THIS VIDEO! PLEASE PART 2!!!
Part 2 is possible, as this is a scenario I could continue
@@rewriting-history yes definitly please
"We have a solid justification to invade!" - lol.
Very nice video 👏
Glad you liked it, appreciate it!
I'm fairly sure Catherine II wanted to make her grandson Constantine the new Byzantine Experor as Constantine XII
Love your videos man! You always make my day! Hearth please
This is so beautiful to watch :)
Glad you liked it!
This man's coin collection is fire! 💯 🔥🔥🔥
It is, expect many other cool coins in the future!
Nice video
Ayy glad you liked it!
The thumbnail is gold
3 hours and already 4k views nice man
Doing good, I really appreciate the growth that I'm having
If Byzantium survived the Napoleonic wars in this timeline, I feel they would be dangerously affected by the revolutions of 1848, with Albanian, Bulgarian, and Turkish uprisings. Great video!
Not neccesarily turkish uprising. While Turkish lands around Aegean sea are undeniebly Turkish it was only that way after the failure of Megali idea after ww1. In this idea Greece was supposed to get all of Aegean including coast of Asia Minor but when they lost the war Greeks in Asia Minor all packed up And left to modern days Greece . In order to preserve balance of powers Ottomans wouldnt be destroyed completelly but would likelly loose large part of Middle East and all access to Aegean, probably would end up the same way as Megali was supposed to
roman republic 2: eletric bogaloo
A few things that l would change , l'd give some if not most parts of the macedonia region to bulgaria kinda like the san stefano borders , and l tkink that neo byzantium to have a similar system to poland-lithuania where the people can pick which monarch can rule over them (correct me if l may be wrong ), but l'm not sure if it would even be possible at that period . And l would like to see a follow up on this scenario like nepoleon becoming the king of this byzantine empire .
What if East Germany tried to remain independent (or was forced to by the UN security council) after the fall of the iron curtain?
It become a North Korea like state being isolated and militarized but still probably having relations with China and Russia
Russian empire: Im the greatest empire in history!
Ottoman empire: I took your capital once, and you were not able to do the same
You should make a part 2
You're the third person to ask this, so I will consider this.
Love your UA-cam channel man ! Keep up the great work slavic brother (I am half croat) ! By the way what about this scenario :
What if, during middle age, europe was muslim and the arabs christians ?
Glad you're enjoying the content, interesting suggestion you have I can make a short
@@rewriting-history Willl be so coool have a nice day friend 😃
We NEED a part 2!
I should do it, really loved the scenario!
@@rewriting-historythanks love you’re videos man
What if the republic of Corsica United Italy with Napoleon as king emperor of Italy
This is quality content.
Ayyy glad you liked it!
Man, i'm here with a suggestion: try to add captions in your videos, like, write what u saying in the video, because i'm not a natural speaker of english, and some accents are difficult for me to understand clearly, it's not a critic or offense to anyone accent, just a suggestion. Thanks
That was very interesting
(Can i write a video idea here in the comments 😅😊❤🎉)
Glad you liked it! You can always suggest, but I prefer the discord
Seems like my comment got deleted? Anyways, I just wanted to say that I happen to live in Azov, its an interesting historical city in southern Russia, it has some old fortifications leftover from the times of Krimean Khanate ruling this land and centre is a very beautiful part of the town, it's architecture is really nice and looks like historical buildings from Saint Petersburg or Moscow. Basically centre and historif parts aee only worth to check out if you have a chance, other part of the town is just sad soviet architecture...
The body in Oklahoma was interesting.
The only problem was that both Russians and Austrians had (traditionally) no regard of the orthodox interests and positions of the local populations.
For them was just a game.
This is why the local population was sometime even on the Turks side rather on the "liberators" side that only wanted more land and nothing more.
I would like to see What if the Greeks were ruled by an actual Greek monarch following its independence instead of Otto, that way it could pursue its own ideals and interests, like harassing the Ottomans as they declined further in the aftermath of the Napoleonic wars, and it could use Ottoman weakness in the Russian wars as opportunities to make gains.
Hello mr Rewriting History I have a suggestion, What if Serbian emporor Dusan nemanjic the great didn't die at the young age? I also undestand if you won't do this scenario
The thing is both Byzantium and the Roman Empire was alive and well in 1790. It was under Turkish rule. Changing it to Russian rule is not restoring. It is just changing the rulers.
what if kaliningrad oblast became part of US State 51st? What if Königsberg (East Prussia) was given to America instead of USSR after World War 2, and later turned into the 51st US state? My idea
holy based
What if Texas becomes a Texas region of the Russian Federation?
(Suggestion) Create an alternate history of Russia if :
- Anastania Romanov DID SURVIVE (NOT DEAD NOR MISSING) from the massacre from the Reds
- The Whites won the civil war
- Anastasia became the Tsarina
- Peaceful negotiations and reconciliation between Whites and Reds
- Russia will became more federalize, liberalize, and democratize as a constitutional monarchy similar to UK with socialist principles
This is hevaily inspired by HOI4 mod "Dreams of the White Russian Victory"
Another suggestion would be, What if the Mongols Christianized, instead of converting to Islam.
No way, XXII Rome 😮😮😮
Suggestion: What if the convention of 1800 failed/never happened?
If they let Slavs and Greeks rule their 1/4 I would be up for this.
They actually had plans on restoring the Byzantine Roman Empire if not for the French and the British.
Scenario idea :
What if Prussia tried to unite Germany with the german parts of Austria and czechia included ( aka Großdeutschland)
Instead of what happened in our timeline in 1866
Do a What if Kanye West restored the Western Roman Empire
No way I'm definitely doing that hahahaha!!!
WHOO BIG GREECE, Let’s go Russia!
As a Greek I am happy
Can you literally just make ONE video where you don't nuke the fridge? Your scenarios are always great, and the beginnings are almost always very interesting, but then, something comes up that just completely ruins it. Are you serious about Austria annexing land in a straight line from Albania to Dachia? A straight line IN THE BALKANS?! Come on dude.
The straight line was an actual proposal by Austria, I'm not making it up.
@@rewriting-history It was an imaginary line that was meant to serve as a rough estimate for campaign goals, somewhat like the Astrakhan-Arkhangelsk-line during Operation Barbarossa. It was not an actual proposal for an actual future border.
3:30 Did bro called First partition of Poland "fourth"?!
video idea: what if ottoman empire won war of 1877-1878 russo turkish war
Great idea! I had an idea of this already, so expect that in the near future!
@@rewriting-history i know you are bulgarian that must be very hard for you 😁
Boys it actually happening finally!
Lets do it boys. With everything thats going on people wont notice it until its too late.
Maybe they wanted a counterbalance state in the region
Go go you derpy little poor Greco-Bulgarian state that would be even more backwards than the Ottoman Empjre for whatever small span of years you would survive. You're just adorable.
Suggestion: what if the Jacobites won in 1745
Im pretty sure Albanians would’ve risen up against the Greek occupiers, the same as they did with the ottomans.
Yes, there was a conflict between Greeks and Albanian in Chameria, but, Albanians lost and fled
(Austria): WE BROUGHT BACK ROME!
(Russia): REAL!?!?!?!?
(Venice): No Way.
Then everybody soyfaces like a UA-cam thumbnail and lives happily ever after. Except the Turks.
Hahah yeah! I should definitely add more memes in the video itself!
@@rewriting-history I made a UA-cam'ish thumbnail of that very scenario happening a couple weeks ago. I wish I knew a way to show it to you.
tbh it wouldn't rlly be called Byzantium Empire but the Greater Byzantine Empire imo
Lore of What if Russia Restored Byzantium in 1790? Momentum 100
Macedonia included as part of Austria hurts my eyes
It does, I regret this decision and would change that If I could
Bro did most cursed way to restore Byzantium
what if Austria and Hungary were partitioned in 1914 by Germany Russia romania Serbia Italy Liechtenstein and Switzerland in the July crisiss of 1914 that started ww1
These countries in a coalition against the Habsburgs.
Austrian empire/austria-hungary were the italy before italy became italy
Ah yes it makes sense
Comment for algorithm, horribly horribly late compared to my usual five minutes after stream because internet
they would collapse even harder
Proof?
W video
Glad you liked it!
Byzantine Intensification
Your accent is thick and hard to understand could you please enable subtitle captions, thanks😊
Subtitles are auto-generated by UA-cam, you can use them :)
@@rewriting-historysorry You Tube says Captions unavailable!
Unleash the power of Byzantium
I think in your map you missed that Russia owned Jever before the Napoleonic Ward
I didn't even know this region, so I very well did make this mistake
, i feel sad that russia didnt care about konstantinopoli , but thats ok :)
For rome
Glory to Rome!
What if Crassus conquered Persia
Alright, as compensation to Ottomans, you gotta make a scenario where they take a W. What about: What if Ottomans killed Peter the Great
Zito to megalo Byzantium!
What if argentina wins Malvinas war
Operation "Greek Reclamation" be like:
Glory to the Roman Empire!!! 🇮🇹🇬🇷
As a guy who likes maps I am offended
Dude why when you talk about austria annexing serbia it shows also annexing macedonia. Its a rightful bulgarian territory.
He used 1914 borders so macedonia was included as it was apart of serbia
based
Ayyy I hope you liked the video!
soon
Free Constantinople !
free cameria yannina
It would the the Roman Empire being brought back. They could have done it and the population there wasn't to far removed from the days of Rome. It would be a hard struggle to get back on its knees. Either that or just move the capital to Constantinople rather then Moscow. This might have an interesting situation if they could manage it.
the turks irl thanked the wester european powers in the end my sending them their best doctors and scientists to live in their countries...(lol)
I believe the Greco-Rus alliance would be the eastern version of the Portugese-British alliance
Do a video if i didnt shit or if it was red
Glory to the Roman empire
One thing I don’t like are Austrian borders
I agree, wish I could change them
What if Islam failed to expand out of Arabia or the Fall of Islam timeline.
Really, outcome would be same, like in this video
Im at school🤫
:)
Hope you liked the video!
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Least delusional alternate history video.
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