What will DC replace the SnyderVerse with? ...surely not J.J. Abrams and Bad Robot?!?

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  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow 3 роки тому +241

    "The people who buy the product don't get to demand what the product is"
    The sheer audacity.

    • @garou12
      @garou12 3 роки тому +2

      welcome to the fashion industry. o wait.

    • @beldonjustbeldon952
      @beldonjustbeldon952 3 роки тому +8

      Clearly, Hollywood does not see the people watching their movies as customers, but as consumers. I guess product placements has turned corporate America into the actual customers... or at the very least that is how Hollywood sees it.

    • @noone8418
      @noone8418 3 роки тому +3

      This is why artists go hungry and they deserve it.

    • @au6769
      @au6769 3 роки тому

      Nope, pretty straight forward. Here is our product, if you want it don't buy it. It's that simple to be honest.

    • @au6769
      @au6769 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rusty_Shackleford099 lmao "most fans understand they are not entitled to any given product" after a years of Snydercut spamming under the guise of "restoring creative vision" give me a break.

  • @jonerikson5925
    @jonerikson5925 3 роки тому +194

    "We don't believe in small factions canceling things"
    Meanwhile you said nothing when the mob tried to cancel Henry Cavill simply for dating Gina Carano over a decade ago.

    • @au6769
      @au6769 3 роки тому +1

      why would they step in if Henry wasn't cancelled?

    • @skylx0812
      @skylx0812 3 роки тому +6

      Cavill has signed autographs in gay bath houses in the UK. He won't be canceled until the rainbow cancels him. ...he likes taking photos with fans in those bath houses

    • @vanguardian2864
      @vanguardian2864 3 роки тому

      That must’ve been hot.

    • @pip7967
      @pip7967 3 роки тому

      @@skylx0812 what's a bath house?

    • @ghostprojekt
      @ghostprojekt 3 роки тому +3

      @@pip7967 basically a sauna

  • @dontcallmewave
    @dontcallmewave 3 роки тому +150

    “They are letting the establishment faction have their way, for now.”
    Translation: they are handing them wb the rope they will use to hang themselves with.

    • @Red_Lanterns_Rage
      @Red_Lanterns_Rage 3 роки тому +5

      if so, AT&T is pulling up some of the slack as we speak......with any luck the rope is bungie cord tied to the neck so it makes sure to do the job right.......
      welp, this it the 10'th time the body bounced.....
      think he's dead?
      prolly but better let it bounce 5 or 10 more times
      roger roger.....
      stop talking like a battle droid.....

    • @dontcallmewave
      @dontcallmewave 3 роки тому

      @@anthonysvenforsic4760 I pray you are right. But I highly doubt it.
      The truth is already obvious for everyone to see but it’s being ignored

  • @GartheKnightReturns
    @GartheKnightReturns 3 роки тому +98

    This just adds to the growing apathy that the customers have towards the overall brand. One thing is getting angry or upset, it’s worse when you just don’t care anymore, and that means you’re moving on.

    • @JennySparkz
      @JennySparkz 3 роки тому +10

      This is pretty much where I am now. Even with the high seas I'm still not interested. Will Buy the BlueRay of Sydercut when It drops but nothing else.

    • @BillyBatsonMarvel
      @BillyBatsonMarvel 3 роки тому +5

      @@JennySparkz my sentiments exactly for THE BAD BATCH. Snyder dissed Geeks&Gamers after thy helped his vision get the green light, so I'll be passing on the DVD.

    • @evildoughboy7773
      @evildoughboy7773 3 роки тому +5

      And then they infiltrate the next thing on the list until they've poisoned everything with either mediocrity or political annoyance. It's like the definition of escapism escapes them.

    • @BENR8108
      @BENR8108 3 роки тому +9

      Sales 101: If your customer is angry and upset means they still care; when you have antipathy however you’ve lost that customer forever…. As a sales person I can deal and resolve issues with a upset customer; I can’t fix a customer who no longer cares because of failure of the products, company’s or my own failures…

    • @JennySparkz
      @JennySparkz 3 роки тому +4

      @@BillyBatsonMarvel I completely understand where you are coming from and had completely forgotten about that.

  • @dariusq8894
    @dariusq8894 3 роки тому +58

    I have to hand it to JJ, he's really made a name for himself. Despite his track record of destroying every franchise he touches (including ones he created) Hollywood elite are lining up to throw money at him. He's like a franchise executioner.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 3 роки тому +11

      It's remarkable how far you can go when you dad was one of the most powerful people in TV. JJ is the worst example of nepotism in Hollywood.

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 3 роки тому +8

      @@fattiger6957 in JJ's defense, he's also really good and making his 'mystery box' theory sound like it's not complete bullshit that's failed repeatedly to hold an audience

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 3 роки тому +12

      @@petriew2018 JJ's real talent is convincing corporate idiots that he's a genius (otherwise known as bullshitting)

    • @jasonschlierman412
      @jasonschlierman412 3 роки тому +3

      Seriously! He gets paid top dollar to execute franchises! Only in Hollywood and Washington DC does that kind of behavior happen.

  • @madaction9373
    @madaction9373 3 роки тому +174

    Warner Brothers is digging their own grave with the future of DC.

    • @dontcallmewave
      @dontcallmewave 3 роки тому +16

      I think ATNT is purposefully allowing that to happen so they can push in a change of leadership at wb soon

    • @herooflight7931
      @herooflight7931 3 роки тому +9

      @@dontcallmewave a change in leadership is needed Sarnoff is a fool

    • @thatHARVguy
      @thatHARVguy 3 роки тому +5

      No matter what they're plans for the DCEU are each week, digging their own grave have been consistent.

    • @thefilmwhisperer1105
      @thefilmwhisperer1105 3 роки тому +3

      @@dontcallmewave why not push that change NOW? It's because of AT&T that the Snyder Cut even got released in the first place. It would behoove AT&T to keep the momentum going for the SnyderVerse.

    • @a.wilkerson2nd334
      @a.wilkerson2nd334 3 роки тому +1

      Just like Lucasfilm

  • @stevecarruthers87
    @stevecarruthers87 3 роки тому +128

    DC / Warner is going down the path of "Let's destroy ourselves because we're indestructible."

    • @SuperOmnicronsj44
      @SuperOmnicronsj44 3 роки тому +12

      Insufferable , pitiful, power craving people with no vision whatsoever. They only do this to hide their own mismanagement that led to the disastrous (Whedon) Justice League the first place.

    • @PatrickOMulligan
      @PatrickOMulligan 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like Snyder.

    • @marcozolo3536
      @marcozolo3536 3 роки тому +1

      No they are way more autistic than that. It's more like let's destroy everything because we are destructible

    • @LinkMarioSamus
      @LinkMarioSamus 3 роки тому +5

      More like let's do whatever and see what sticks. This makes Disney Star Wars look well-managed.

    • @BlazeHeartPanther
      @BlazeHeartPanther 3 роки тому +3

      They are like the Black Knight from Monty Python
      WB: (only one leg) Right, Ill do you for that
      Fans: You'll what?
      WB: Come here!
      Fans: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?
      WB (hopping) I'm InViNcIbLe!!!!!
      Fans: You're a loony

  • @IM-xs3uv
    @IM-xs3uv 3 роки тому +198

    DCEU was already drowning. Bringing in JJ and Awful Robot is like putting concrete boots on the DCEU.

    • @cdmaster35
      @cdmaster35 3 роки тому +8

      they don't care about making money, or they wouldn't do this shite

    • @slagit
      @slagit 3 роки тому +1

      That is for sure...

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 3 роки тому +10

      @@cdmaster35 Considering what they've been able to get away with in Star Trek, I wouldn't trust them with any established IP at this point. It is clear that they do not know how to handle existing properties and using them in any way to produce something based on an established property is a big mistake

    • @BladeMasterIcarus
      @BladeMasterIcarus 3 роки тому +1

      OH WELL *LOADS SHOTGUN* I guess its time to put it out of its misery guys.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 3 роки тому +2

      Nah, JJ and his buddies coming in is like throwing dynamite in the water.

  • @ben_sisko2149
    @ben_sisko2149 3 роки тому +17

    We have the power to cut this short: do NOT go watch/pay to watch online Abrams' movies. That's it. Let's just let the guys at Midnight's Edge, Doomcock, Nerdrotic, etc. "suffer it" and then tell us how awful they are, but let's not give those hacks in Hollywood anymore tries "just in case". Also, tell your friends and relatives to do the same, every dollar counts.

  • @KarlWad
    @KarlWad 3 роки тому +75

    WB statement has strong Kathleen Kennedy vibes

    • @superomegaprimemk2
      @superomegaprimemk2 3 роки тому +4

      Unlike KK the higher ups will not tolerate continuous looses and Hollywood royalty will be quickly be overthrown and replaced by someone who can do the job because they are likely going to be cutthroat thus failure is unlikely to be rewarded!!

    • @anthonyredden9373
      @anthonyredden9373 3 роки тому +1

      Its horrible that Wokeness destroys good story telling.

    • @FuryanJedi13
      @FuryanJedi13 3 роки тому +2

      @@anthonyredden9373 WB tried the 'woke' thing with their Birds of Prey movie.
      And what was the end result of that?
      They got beaten at the box office by a blue hedgehog.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому +2

      @Èlà Ifá Yêhvêh Hopefully there sharpening their axes.

  • @genebaker511
    @genebaker511 3 роки тому +38

    WB - We won't make more Snyder Verse films because they're too expensive and we don't care about its success.
    Also WB - Let's give $500 Million to JJ and a bunch more on variety projects in hopes it'll be successful.

    • @elfsieben1450
      @elfsieben1450 3 роки тому

      Good riddance to the messed up concept of the bleak and boring Snyderverse!
      It was simply the wrong choice to let Zack Snyder of all people force a wide variety of DC source material (he doesn't understand in the first place) into a uniform cinematic universe (the workings of which he doesn't unterstand either).
      Snyder doesn't unterstand the appeal of DC in the first place. WB should never have entrusted him with the whole thing.
      There were several problems to his DCEU vision. Studio interference was just one of them. Battering the variety of all DC characters and their uniqueness into one Batman-styled bleak, dark and grim, pessimistic bordering on nihilistic monotone epic was another one.
      For starters:
      Obviously, aiming for consistency between movies is the wrong priority when you can't even achieve consistency within movies in the first place.
      The main issue is another one, though:
      Artistically succesful DC movies have one major factor going for them that does not tie in well with crossover events such as Justice League.
      They come with great worldbuilding that suits each titular character, visually but also tonally:
      Grim & gritty Gotham for Batman; an escapist and epic island for adventurous Wonder Woman; a hyperrealist melodramatic setting for a sometimes darkly comical but ultimately tragic Joker;
      a very askew, bright burning, weird over-the-top colour scheme and production design for a psychotic maniac like Harvey Quinn who is the unreliable narrator of her own story;
      a circus/themepark-like attraction that is the Rock of Destiny for a comic family adventure movie like Shazam.
      Play these unique DC worlds to strength in standalone movies, don't throw these opportunities away in an illfated attempt of trying to bow to fans of Marvel's uniformity.
      You can do crossover events between entirely different world's in comics, because comics are an entirely different medium to film.
      Comics have a more abstract level to their visual narration, so a clash of not only cultures but also of aesthetics and points of view makes totally sense there. Absurdity and a sense of the grotesque is to a degree what draws comic book readers to the medium in the first place.
      But if you let different aesthetics clash in the medium of film, you will unvariably disrupt the flow and tone of the movie, and movies are medium that relies and builds on tone and flow. Breaking that flow and tonality is what makes a movie become jarring and weirds out the audience.
      You can go down the Marvel road. But then you have to sacrifice part of the uniqueness of each comic book character and their world and aesthetics to reach some common ground. It will make each solo movie of the franchise a little more boring, because you take away from its special appeal for a compromise. But it makes the overall soap opera feel consistent - if done right.
      What the MCU did right was find a MIDDLE ground BETWEEN all character's uniqueness.
      Snyder never did.
      There was no COMMON ground, no compromise that did ALL characters justice.
      Snyder went full-on Batman style, thereby making every other character feel out of place. Making every other character/background/world have to toe the Batmanverse line was too much of a stretch. It destroeyed tonal consistency. It drained what made the characters interesting as much as it drained the colours out of the visuals, even more so.
      Burton's Gotham was dark, but it was colourful and interesting. It was dark, alright, but most of all it was stark, expressive, vivid.
      Snyder made even (in the comics) bright and shiny and futuristically optimistic Metropolis look like a boring version of a bleaker, dulled down Gotham.
      This wasn't dark as much as it was dreary, jaded, livid.
      I'll say it again:
      Battering the variety of all DC characters and their uniqueness into one Batman-styled bleak, dark and grim, pessimistic bordering on nihilistic monotone epic was the worst decision ever.
      The Snyderverse stole everything that set DC apart from Marvel in a good way: The absence of uniformity which gave directors more freedom to explore stylistic niches and narrative nuances and an aesthetic variety in colours, tone, world-building.
      And at the same time the Snyderverse failed to copy Marvel's success, because that wasn't built on grim-darkness but the opposite: a bright-colourful tone.
      Throwing out Snyder and abandoning the Snyderverse was a good thing. It has freed up the characters to come into their own again.

  • @fireranaurion7979
    @fireranaurion7979 3 роки тому +48

    Then when core fans reject what they produce, they will call these core fans toxic, ist and phobe for not liking it.

    • @georgeso4364
      @georgeso4364 3 роки тому +10

      And when we call them out on their BS, we must remember to vote with our wallets. The only thing that will convince these greedy corporate execs to admit they are wrong is dwindling profits.

    • @alisukoon06
      @alisukoon06 3 роки тому

      well i mean us harley fans really are standing by you for the snyderverse and ayer cut, all we ask if for you guys to stand by us for more representation or female lgbtq+ characters because we cant all relate to the white cis straight men in comics :)

  • @thefezman93
    @thefezman93 3 роки тому +46

    WB have shot themselves in the foot with signing JJ Abrams. I highly doubt Abrams will save the DCEU

    • @NeptuneNoire
      @NeptuneNoire 3 роки тому +11

      He'll probably just copy and paste Reeves Superman with a small mix of Zack's, mostly the action if anything. And of course interject all the PC tones.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 3 роки тому +4

      DC will be left as a lifeless husk like Star Trek and Star Wars.

    • @jbbrolic
      @jbbrolic 3 роки тому +3

      Abrams has an brought in an avowed racist and hater of America to write Superman. "truth, justice and the American way" will not be included.

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 3 роки тому +3

      the bigger problem is who they're bringing in to write the movies. Nobody at DC can write a comic book for shit, let alone a movie...
      seriously, Coates is a terrible comic writer. His characters are always one dimensional caricatures who only exist so he can push a narrative told pretty much entirely via exposition

    • @miketheskepticalone6285
      @miketheskepticalone6285 3 роки тому

      Jar Jar Abrams can't save bottle money.

  • @Nodux359
    @Nodux359 3 роки тому +57

    Whenever the names "JJ Abrams" or "Bad Robot" are mentioned, I roll my eyes so hard you can hear it.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 3 роки тому +1

      Abrams, Lindeloft, and Kurtzman are the Axis of Doom for any beloved film/tv franchise. Is there a 4th guy so we can just call them the 4 Horsemen?

    • @inblackestnight9256
      @inblackestnight9256 3 роки тому +2

      @@fattiger6957 Paul Feig? The guy who directed 2016 Ghostbusters? It was just one film, and will be retconned with the next one, but his name immediately came to mind with your question.

    • @nickrog6759
      @nickrog6759 3 роки тому

      @@inblackestnight9256 Good one 👍

    • @nekomako777
      @nekomako777 3 роки тому +2

      Jar Jar Abrams and bad reboot need to stop "reimagining" established ips!

    • @Nodux359
      @Nodux359 3 роки тому

      @@fattiger6957 Nope, can´t think of anybody else. But on the other side: when did they ever achieve the prestige of any classics they tried to rip off? So, they don´t reach the class of the Four Horsemen either. I´ll call Abrams, Lindelof and Kurtzman the "Three Ponyboys of Suck" from now on.

  • @emancoy
    @emancoy 3 роки тому +65

    Enter JJ Abrams, the destroyer of Franchises

    • @georgeso4364
      @georgeso4364 3 роки тому +7

      He did it to Star Wars and Star Trek, what’s next on his hit list?

    • @eddychaosofpain244
      @eddychaosofpain244 3 роки тому

      What next marvel

    • @ProxyDoug
      @ProxyDoug 3 роки тому

      @@georgeso4364 What is even left?

    • @georgeso4364
      @georgeso4364 3 роки тому

      The only cool franchises left are anime and the Japanese won’t let JJ touch those

  • @thechosendone8533
    @thechosendone8533 3 роки тому +19

    If they ever open theaters back up to full capacity (for those that managed to survive), Hollywood is going to experience a major reckoning. Box office sales had already been in decline for years and now everyone is used to staying home and streaming. People are not going to pay for this crap. They have no idea the trouble they are in.

    • @sillypuppy5940
      @sillypuppy5940 3 роки тому +4

      And it's a short hop from streaming to piracy.

    • @DarksaberForce
      @DarksaberForce 3 роки тому +2

      Wasn't 2018 the lowest grossing Box Office year before 2020?

  • @BigGator5
    @BigGator5 3 роки тому +120

    Hollywood, the only place where you can fail upward.

    • @inspiraPaz
      @inspiraPaz 3 роки тому +19

      Corporate America disagrees. I've seen too many examples of people promoted to "safe" positions where they can't harm production or work flow after several major screw ups.

    • @pppppp1120
      @pppppp1120 3 роки тому +14

      @@inspiraPaz Politics too

    • @TheoKoulouris
      @TheoKoulouris 3 роки тому +4

      Its common globally in most corporate structure. The bigger the politics the bigger the phenomenon. Especially in long established businesses. Historically it is an indicative issue which suggest the Fall of empires.

    • @BENR8108
      @BENR8108 3 роки тому +2

      Not true; you need add the White House as well

    • @garou12
      @garou12 3 роки тому +1

      the american presidency too.

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 3 роки тому +34

    Warner Bros is like Cipher in the Matrix, except the reasons for his betrayal make less sense.

    • @e13kid
      @e13kid 3 роки тому

      😂😂

  • @joelreis5366
    @joelreis5366 3 роки тому +30

    Im past all this. Channels like yours is my entertainment now. Wether its talking about old movies and comics or video games , analysing new ones and having a fun time with the chat, im not expecting anything special from mainstream Hollywood in the next 4 years. Its like Gary from Nerdrotic said, we will probably have something close to dark times with at least 4 or 5 more years of low quality movies and TV shows and then a renassaince period, with fresh ideas.
    There is also the Star Trek TNG scenario, where passive forms of recreation start fading out. We have that already in some capacity, with the videogame industry eclipsing Hollywood and people tuning in to streams and podcasts more steadily.
    They can only be out of touch for so long. It remains to be seen if its in time to save themselves of its too late. I would say they are so sure of themselves, that its already too late for them.

  • @darkroninmarvel
    @darkroninmarvel 3 роки тому +40

    Fans: what now?
    AT&T: we wait

    • @sillypuppy5940
      @sillypuppy5940 3 роки тому +1

      With fingers crossed that the audience turns up

  • @davidblue819
    @davidblue819 3 роки тому +15

    Letting people have their way "for the time being" can lead to looking back later and asking, "what happened to that intellectual property we were told was so valuable?"

  • @rrmendoza8076
    @rrmendoza8076 3 роки тому +32

    WB has always been a studio that never knew what to do with the DC property.

    • @stevensanna3651
      @stevensanna3651 3 роки тому +10

      That's why Warner Bros should have just given DC Entertainment New Line and said here you go, have at it..

    • @gc3k
      @gc3k 3 роки тому +8

      They've been screwing with creator's visions for DC since Superman 78

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 3 роки тому +3

      Nothing has changed in the ~25 years since Superman Lives.

    • @Iffmeister
      @Iffmeister 3 роки тому +1

      @@stevensanna3651 i wish Universal or New Line had DC

    • @rrmendoza8076
      @rrmendoza8076 3 роки тому

      @@stevensanna3651 That would be awesome!

  • @maliceflare
    @maliceflare 3 роки тому +39

    save money, but sign a $500m deal with Bad Robot? heh...

  • @ghstlyflme
    @ghstlyflme 3 роки тому +8

    I'm genuinely surprised they didn't mention to try Dr. Fate. He/She can be anyone and doesn't necessarily have to be super true to the comic. His/Her powers are varied and can scale from city block to universal depending on choice of tone. Many villains in DC can be a threat as his/her powers are tied to the helmet. Also, he/she has the power to throw down with the big powers in DC, so technically Darkseid is the limit (maybe). I would very much like to see what a medium to big budget movie version would be like!

  • @MinasTsambanis
    @MinasTsambanis 3 роки тому +18

    It is always a sight to behold just how WB is out of reality.
    Someone has to tell them the fans are the ones who PAY to see and they dawn right have the right to ask want they want to see.

    • @DetectiveBarricade
      @DetectiveBarricade 3 роки тому +3

      It's hard to tell Hollywood anything when they stick their fingers in their ears and go "LA LA LA LA WE CAN'T HEAR YOU! LA LA LA LA LA WE'RE NOT LISTENING!"

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому +1

      @@DetectiveBarricade Hollywood doesn't care about Supply and Demand.

  • @genebaker511
    @genebaker511 3 роки тому +27

    6:30 Notice they use the word Latino and Latinx in the same sentence.

    • @ghostprojekt
      @ghostprojekt 3 роки тому +4

      Gotta fill that "inclusivity" quota!

    • @patrioticcat5768
      @patrioticcat5768 3 роки тому +3

      Funny, they use latinX to not use "gender language" and fail at it anyway. They never cared about muh diversity they only cared that they didn't want any bad publicity in the news by having someone act like a victim.

  • @FracturedO1
    @FracturedO1 3 роки тому +20

    "Hoping an audience will spring in existence", translation; "Doing what we want despite the facts before them".

  • @Bow-to-the-absurd
    @Bow-to-the-absurd 3 роки тому +13

    As a non comic fan
    I'd say the fandom Is united behind cavill as superman.
    Wb would be foolish to disregard

    • @DarksaberForce
      @DarksaberForce 3 роки тому +1

      Henry really wants to stay as Superman. Why are they so against him?

    • @jasonschlierman412
      @jasonschlierman412 3 роки тому +3

      I really don't like his Superman. It's not the acting, it's the writing. That said, I'd rather he keep playing the character than deal with Warner's new plans for the character. Plus, Cavill really enjoys the role, hard to argue with that too much.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 3 роки тому

      @@jasonschlierman412 By the time JJ and Bad robot are done with DC, you'll be wishing you still had a Superman.

    • @jasonschlierman412
      @jasonschlierman412 3 роки тому

      @@Jogeta5 Honestly, there are so many Superman shows and films that actually are good or at least faithful to the character, I'm honestly not hurting if I never see another new Superman anything ever again. Of all the comic heroes, he's easily the one with the most media. So, let JJ trash on him. I'll be so busy enjoying Fleischer, Reeves, Reeve, Cain and DCAU Supes, I don't care.

    • @jasonschlierman412
      @jasonschlierman412 3 роки тому

      @Albert Okorogu People who run movie studios these days tend to be a bit dim. Hollywood and Washington DC and where people go to fail upwards.

  • @zorahika971
    @zorahika971 3 роки тому +8

    The DC establishment faction is going down a similar route as the Star Wars Kennedy faction.

  • @ahmadbazzari8552
    @ahmadbazzari8552 3 роки тому +23

    So they wanna make shit quality movies with little budget with zero attention to story or world building (the foundation of Comic Movies) and they expect to make their money back x100?
    *In Morgan Freeman's Fox voice* "Good luck."

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 3 роки тому +4

      Especially when they brought in Walter Hamada, a guy who overseen horror movies which by their nature bring in a nice profit, and expect him to just replicate that with superhero movies like there is no difference between the two genre.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому

      @@Lobsterwithinternet Horror Movies is a genre where the most expensive films are usually $10-20 Million. Superhero films usually cost at least 3 times that.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 3 роки тому +1

      @@jturner2577 Which was the point I was making.
      You can't take the profit margins of a horror movie and just copy/paste it into an entirely different genre. It's like an Italian Chef and making him do Vietnamese Pad Tai just as well.

  • @countfalconer
    @countfalconer 3 роки тому +22

    At this point if you want it to continue, make some noise on social media #RestoreTheSnyderverse but do it respectively don't give them ammunition to attack the fandom, watch the SnyderCut on HBO Max or wherever you are in the world, and buy the physical media copy of the film.

    • @LinkMarioSamus
      @LinkMarioSamus 3 роки тому

      More like this is why you never bow to fan demand. They will NEVER be satisfied. They put out the Snyder cut so that crowd would be quiet but nope.

    • @dhm5675
      @dhm5675 3 роки тому +11

      @@LinkMarioSamus Snyder fans should just walk away and see how WB do without them. When you piss on your diehard fans, nothing comes out of it but failure

    • @Invidente7
      @Invidente7 3 роки тому +3

      @@LinkMarioSamus only a nintendrone would aprove of attacking the fans.

    • @Kh3micalX8
      @Kh3micalX8 3 роки тому +5

      Feel like this is the best thing too do. As long as the movement remains loud but respectful. They'll have to acknowledge that a massive subsection of people clearly don't like what they're providing, and want too see Snyders DC universe continue.
      Another small thing that can be done in my opinion. Is too make sure that AT&T specifically notices. Since they're the only ones who would have intrest in making this happen.

    • @pastordonkoh7692
      @pastordonkoh7692 3 роки тому +4

      @@dhm5675 trust me, #RestoreTheSnyderVerse will grow so big that AT&T share price will start fluctuating in response. At some point in the future when the movement has won over enough existing subscribers and grown into the mainstream a #CancelHBOMax trending event date will be set. Then $300-500 million won't seem like much to stability the share price
      Right now the #RestoreTheSnyderVerse Banners, Trucks and Flyovers are just about getting more eyes on movement and winning over heart and minds.

  • @kiyaleelevyrunaya9495
    @kiyaleelevyrunaya9495 3 роки тому +10

    Lol, "we are about positivity and celebration"
    Says the woman representing the company that fired a man after his daughter commited suicide, then went on to ruin his vision and project; and thén blamed the fans and the grieving father they fired.
    My God, I am losing every ounce of respect I used to have for this company in such an alarming short time.

  • @pazma1
    @pazma1 3 роки тому +41

    This gonna get hilarious.

    • @jadenkorr32
      @jadenkorr32 3 роки тому +7

      You want to see hilarious? Go check out the ratio and comments section for Warner Bro’s trailer for the new (Whedon) Justice League 4K release.

    • @Ljordan093
      @Ljordan093 3 роки тому

      Oh yeah.

    • @blacksoldier430
      @blacksoldier430 3 роки тому

      This isn’t hilarious anymore, it’s just sad

    • @jadenkorr32
      @jadenkorr32 3 роки тому

      @@blacksoldier430 Yes. It’s been sad for some years now. Especially given that the entertainment industry is more entertaining than what they preach...ahem, produce.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 3 роки тому +5

      Yeah.
      Just finished the video and couldn't agree more. Who in their right mind thinks you can take someone who worked exclusively on horror movies, a genre that is cheap to make because of the nature of horror movies, and expects them to make superhero movies with similar profit margins without it looking like late ‘80s-early ‘90s superhero movies?
      It's insanity and I hope the success of Black Adam gives Dwayne Johnson enough pull to dissuade them from doing it.

  • @MisterMonsterMan
    @MisterMonsterMan 3 роки тому +13

    If Henry Cavill is replaced by "black Superman" there is going to be hell to pay with the fans.

    • @rudydesi
      @rudydesi 3 роки тому

      They will do a black superman but not clark

    • @hi3174
      @hi3174 3 роки тому

      Umm... That's not what Google says

  • @Foobar_The_Fat_Penguin
    @Foobar_The_Fat_Penguin 3 роки тому +14

    It's actually kind of sad that fans have to defend the Snyderverse. I mean, it's not actually *that* good. It's just that it's better than most of the other stuff they've been trying to shove down our throats. It's like defending bread and water, because their alternative is rectal feeding.

  • @Mcluvin231
    @Mcluvin231 3 роки тому +5

    Midnight's Edge understands more about the economics of building a business/brand than WB

  • @regulustheron2565
    @regulustheron2565 3 роки тому +8

    Ta-Nehisi working on Superman is also super exciting to me. Yes, I am very excited to see the fallout of that radioactive dumpster firestorm.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 роки тому +4

      Can't wait for Lex Luthor to tell people to clean their rooms and feed cats lobster as part of his master plan to provide African-Americans with decent affordable housing after being shut out by generations of discrimination, and for Superman to somehow see Lex as the bad guy for doing that.

    • @Latentheatfussion
      @Latentheatfussion 3 роки тому +1

      I also can't wait for him to become trans
      😂

    • @regulustheron2565
      @regulustheron2565 3 роки тому

      @@Latentheatfussion Superman or Lex? 🤭

    • @Latentheatfussion
      @Latentheatfussion 3 роки тому +1

      @@regulustheron2565 lex of course
      Plot will kill off lois lane and then clark will have a relationship with Jimmy

    • @Latentheatfussion
      @Latentheatfussion 3 роки тому

      @Albert Okorogu yeah they would do that for a good story but here its gonna be for a gay representation

  • @SeansSoundtracksAndGaming
    @SeansSoundtracksAndGaming 3 роки тому +6

    Irony alert: Sarnoff's being related by marriage to the founder of RKO Pictures is hilarious. RKO made some of the best indie-spirited films of all time. Now Ann is "establishment royalty" trying anything to protect a dying system while only hastening its destruction. How the mighty have fallen. On their face.

  • @gokux75
    @gokux75 3 роки тому +3

    Henry Cavill's Superman fighting the Rocks Black Adam would be amazing. I know Shazam 2 is in pre production now but I was really hoping the second Shazam movie would be a live adaption of Superman/Shazam: Black Adam, but maybe that could be the second Black Adam movie. Either way hopefully the Rock's star power gives him some pull because Henry deserves to keep playing Superman. It is a crime he he seems to appear less in each new movie coming out that stars Superman.

  • @lancethefilmguy9392
    @lancethefilmguy9392 3 роки тому +4

    I really love your new Intro Midnight's Edge!
    😎🎶

  • @snarlmarxxx1129
    @snarlmarxxx1129 3 роки тому +11

    this new intro will take some getting used to. the old was already pretty great.

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 3 роки тому +1

      I think it is a little too long.

    • @Marneus28
      @Marneus28 3 роки тому +2

      I hate it. I hope they go back to the original one, it was way better.

    • @fnk86
      @fnk86 3 роки тому

      @@Marneus28 nah, new is killer

    • @dannyhicking
      @dannyhicking 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah the new intro is awful. Looks like they are sticking with it though ☹️

  • @noneed4me2n7
    @noneed4me2n7 3 роки тому +3

    Not really concerned anymore but I’ll always support the solid reporting you guys have done for us fans through the years. Thanks for the content.

  • @lancebaylis3169
    @lancebaylis3169 3 роки тому +5

    Between all this and the 4k release of the Whedon cut, they're determined to bury it. Despite the profit of the Snyder cut.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 3 роки тому +12

    so its basically a civil war between AT&T and Warner bros well this should be really interesting to watch.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому +8

      And let's hope AT&T Wins.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 роки тому +6

      @@jturner2577 never thought I would ever root for AT&T to win anything however in this case I will admit I am hoping for once if they do win this could maybe bring us some good movies for dc films but then again I don’t trust both sides so who knows, all I know I am just going to wait and see what happens.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому +5

      @@TevyaSmolka True but Telecommunications Companies cares about supply and demand. They supplied the Snyder Cut, people loved it and want the Snyderverse restored. There's a demand for more and when people respond well to something and it is profitable you make more. It's not Rocket Science.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 роки тому +2

      @@jturner2577 yeah that’s true and you’re right about that

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому +1

      @@TevyaSmolka I don't know what AT&T is waiting for unless they want to see how deep WB can dig themselves.

  • @aguasanta
    @aguasanta 3 роки тому +1

    The product should be something the public desire or need, not something you do and "hopefully" the public will like it. That's why you do a market research. And that's why you should listen the fans

  • @mattstelter4363
    @mattstelter4363 3 роки тому +22

    That new logo is slick AF

    • @gc3k
      @gc3k 3 роки тому +2

      The new intro is great but I liked the old music
      (though they can use any music they want, it's their channel)

  • @dannyhicking
    @dannyhicking 3 роки тому +23

    Not a fan of the new start. Your old was so perfect, I was excited whenever I heard it

    • @DEREKinNYC
      @DEREKinNYC 3 роки тому +6

      I agree. I hope they decide to change it back.

    • @Marneus28
      @Marneus28 3 роки тому +3

      I agree 100%. I really hate this new OP. The original had way more of a catchy memorable sound to it. I hope they change their mind about this new one. =/

  • @patrickmusson4571
    @patrickmusson4571 3 роки тому +5

    Jar Jar Abrams and his company Bad REBOOT.

  • @quietprofessional
    @quietprofessional 3 роки тому +4

    The "Establishment" should know this long-held maxim adopted by the hospitality industry: "customer is royalty."

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd 3 роки тому +6

    AT&T need to get on that boat and turn it around fast as it’s heading right at an iceberg, WB and D.C. have seen that iceberg and have turned the speed up to max and just like the Titanic before it it’s going to sink.

  • @dtzyYT
    @dtzyYT 3 роки тому +8

    The "establishment faction" having a vision for dc films is a very good joke!

    • @emancoy
      @emancoy 3 роки тому

      And they're serious

  • @smartchai
    @smartchai 3 роки тому +1

    This is the very informative video clip about the current "SNYDERVERSE" situation !
    #RestoreTheSnyderVerse ❗❗❗❗

  • @ThatGuy-cb3yv
    @ThatGuy-cb3yv 3 роки тому +7

    JJ Abrams, franchise killer.
    Star Trek
    Star Wars
    DC

    • @mala6238
      @mala6238 3 роки тому +3

      Cloverfield.

  • @MisterMonsterMan
    @MisterMonsterMan 3 роки тому +6

    My former inner DC superfan is screaming.

    • @davidblue819
      @davidblue819 3 роки тому +2

      My former inner Fantastic Four fan is saying "here we go again." A brand can only take so much damage. If you make bad movie after bad movie "for the time being," the big, eager audience that once existed is gone. That's what happened to Fantastic Four, and that's what at&t is on the verge of letting happen to the entire DC universe.

  • @NibbaWan
    @NibbaWan 3 роки тому +10

    The new ME intro is clean 👌🏼🔥

  • @jturner2577
    @jturner2577 3 роки тому +3

    AT&T Should just rock the Boat. Feelings be damned.

  • @jjaramos
    @jjaramos 3 роки тому +4

    I don't think I'll spend a dime in any of those new projects, especially anything with Jar Jar Abrams. And as a Latino, I have zero interest in a Blue Beetle movie. Why can't they make anything right?

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 роки тому +1

      Because it's Time Warner, the people whose idea of caring for their IPs was ThunderCats Roar.

    • @jjaramos
      @jjaramos 3 роки тому +1

      @@autobotstarscream765 oh no, I had deleted that from my memory. They are on a quest to destroy our beloved franchises.

  • @inspiraPaz
    @inspiraPaz 3 роки тому +2

    I don't see what is so hard/bad about giving customers what they ask for and making profit. That is literally the reason why for-profit corporations exist.

  • @jiokl7g9t6
    @jiokl7g9t6 3 роки тому +3

    Failure. Failure will replace the Snyderverse...

  • @CanaleAV
    @CanaleAV 3 роки тому +4

    I love the fact that we live in a world where big companies are at the mercy of the Rock.

    • @zackreynolds21
      @zackreynolds21 3 роки тому

      Until he publicly endorsed Joe Biden 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @wallygator92
    @wallygator92 3 роки тому +5

    Zack Snyder may not be the best filmmaker in the world but I would still much rather have Snyder than J.J. Abrams!

  • @Darksmirk1
    @Darksmirk1 3 роки тому +3

    Nothing spells doom for a Francine quite like Bad Robot. Totally uninterested in DC moving forward unless a trailer proves otherwise.

  • @kawh8719
    @kawh8719 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, I love the new opening!

  • @maxmessling8064
    @maxmessling8064 3 роки тому +2

    You made a mistake, JJ's company is called Bad Reboot not Bad Robot.

  • @gc3k
    @gc3k 3 роки тому +1

    If they could somehow take Snyder's grandiose visuals, and just directly adapt DCAU to live action, WB would have a winner on their hands

  • @Cleron_O_Andarilho
    @Cleron_O_Andarilho 3 роки тому +2

    Well, that just another message to not waste my money in DC movies.

  • @hylianbatman3153
    @hylianbatman3153 3 роки тому +1

    Cause it's working sooo well for the comics branch at marvel

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet 3 роки тому +2

    If they really wanted to do the best of both worlds, they would have based the new DCCU on the Gods and Monsters Universe.
    With Superman being the son of Zod and raised by Mexican immigrants taking the name Hernan Guerra, Batman being Man-Bat Kirk Langstrom who turned himself into a vampire, Wonder Woman being a New God, etc.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 3 роки тому +1

      @@tutorialslave Well, one of the stories had Brainiac turned into a psychic child similar to Ace who Superman had to kill in one promotional short named _Bomb._
      Harley Quinn is much more crazy and psychotic than she is in the mainline but Batman sucks her blood, presumably killing her.
      Giganta is a non-sentient mecha created by Kobra as a secret weapon rather than an actual person.
      The craziest part is Darkseid. Spoiler Alert:
      He's actually the victim of Highfather’s, and New Genesis’, treachery in a Red Wedding-style slaughter that alienates Wonder Woman from her grandfather and leaves most of the big names of Apocalypse including Orion dead.
      Will Magnus is friends with Kirk here.
      Lex Luthor is wheelchair-bound and much more mellow than normal.
      Quite a lot of differences and directions they could take.
      Anyway, you should take a look and see it for yourself. Should start with the comics Timm wrote and then the Chronicle shorts first before you watch the movie. You can find them for free on UA-cam. _Twisted, Bomb, then Big._

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 3 роки тому +1

      @@tutorialslave also, Watchtower Database has a good timeline for it on their channel.

  • @gabrielionuttafalogu6214
    @gabrielionuttafalogu6214 3 роки тому +12

    #RestoretheSnyderVerse

  • @petrie911
    @petrie911 3 роки тому +1

    "You've got a Latino superhero movie in Blue Beetle, Sasha Calle becoming the first Latinx actress to portray Supergirl, ..." I would think she'd be a *Latina* actress, given that she's a woman. Guys can't even get their newspeak straight.
    On another note, I also can't wait to see what Ta-Nehisi Coates comes up with, though perhaps for different reasons.

  • @tornielsen2888
    @tornielsen2888 3 роки тому +1

    Oh god i so badly want to see The Rock vs Cavil, ahem.. Black Adam vs Superman.
    I would pay cold hard cash for that. The poster Midnights Edge created alone got me hyped.
    Unlike any of the other titles that was mentioned.

  • @libertyrae1351
    @libertyrae1351 3 роки тому +2

    Sick new intro, guys!

  • @d34dj3d1
    @d34dj3d1 3 роки тому +2

    You can't replace something that never existed.......

  • @jamesstreeter7342
    @jamesstreeter7342 3 роки тому +2

    Your new title is sick 👌

  • @Seras99
    @Seras99 3 роки тому +2

    Man oh, man! I love the new intro!

  • @professorm4171
    @professorm4171 3 роки тому +2

    I like Snyder but his DC movies don't make a lot of money. That's a huge factor.

  • @GuiltyFaT
    @GuiltyFaT 3 роки тому +2

    Love the new intro...
    Smooth

  • @LedPESRule
    @LedPESRule 3 роки тому +3

    Smooth new intro 👌

  • @donnellboykin3779
    @donnellboykin3779 3 роки тому +1

    Love the new track on the intro

  • @BruceKenobi
    @BruceKenobi 2 роки тому

    what is the name of the last opening Vignete music? I know it's from Kevin MacLeod, but what is the track's name?

  • @Underground3
    @Underground3 3 роки тому +1

    *Jar Jar Abrams:* "DC fan! I come to bring you the great darkness!"

  • @Austroid
    @Austroid 3 роки тому +1

    DC-wise I'm mainly a Bat-fan. I haven't seen a DC movie in theaters since The Dark Knight Rises. Nothing against Snyder, but his version of Bats just didn't appeal to me. I'm hoping The Batman 2022 is worth the extra wait.

  • @antoncaligari1818
    @antoncaligari1818 3 роки тому +1

    Horror movies are generally low cost products, audiences on the other hand for superhero movies, tend to be more used to the big effects driven spectacle and will be turned off by a company trying to do it on the cheap.

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly there two totally different genres.

  • @peterfmodel
    @peterfmodel 3 роки тому +2

    Its all ego, nepotism, fashion and basic stupidity. Creating a movie from existing source material is always annoying for these self-proclaimed masters of the universe; they always want to change stuff to suit their ego. If its successful they are hailed as hero’s, if it fails they can blame it on the source material.
    Hollywood is filled with talentless hacks that got their position by who they know rather than any innate skill. That is why when someone with real skill, such as Snyder comes along; he is in so much demand people fall over themselves to hire him. If Hollywood was filled with talent, Snyder would not stand out. As it is he stands out as one of the “very few” with actual talent, and I must admit not liking his style at all. But I can recognise greatness.

  • @BartAllen
    @BartAllen 3 роки тому +3

    *Quite simple - delve into the Black Label-esque brands akin to Phillips' Joker even in a similar universe - stories of Bruce growing up after Joker, perhaps even Clark and various villains) ~*
    That would save costs, but also a black Superman isn't a bad thing (there's a difference between being racial and being woke) - especially as there is precedence for it in the form of Val-Zod and Calvin Ellis - HOWEVER, it isn't needed, so hopefully they'll adapt the Dakotaverse after Static and adapt Icon and Hardware, though I'll be interested to see how they'd even adapt Icon, especially since he's a black conservative ~

    • @jturner2577
      @jturner2577 3 роки тому

      Yeah a Calvin Ellis superman movie would be fine with the proper writer. Which they clearly don't have.

  • @goosetheloose8332
    @goosetheloose8332 3 роки тому +3

    New logo looks good.

  • @MrCarlosj0
    @MrCarlosj0 3 роки тому

    Back during Smallville's run I was more happy to see Booster Gold than I was to see Blue Beetle. I just cant see BB carrying his own movie. Maybe a direct to DVD. Booster Gold I could see as a tv series with him playing hero using history to make himself look good but at the same time learning what it takes to be a hero when things dont turn out the way it should or he learns that someone else is messing with the past.

  • @j.j.6461
    @j.j.6461 3 роки тому +2

    Love the new animation!

  • @marvinellis7221
    @marvinellis7221 3 роки тому +2

    New Intro Music!! Nice!

  • @franklinmwesi6211
    @franklinmwesi6211 3 роки тому +2

    Love the new title sequence

  • @nightwishfan1991
    @nightwishfan1991 3 роки тому +1

    This isn't a problem WB has had with DC recently. This has been a problem going back all the way into the 90s. Normally if a good DC movie happens it is by complete accident. Most of the time there is massive mismanagement or spectacular misfires. Just look up the number of cancelled DC films. We almost had a Justice League movie and Wonder Woman a decade prior. Some of these movies literally weeks from filming until the plug was pulled. Meanwhile Marvel had their rights scattered to different studios and yet were still able to get their properties made into movies in the 2000s (some hits some misses) then was able to make their own studio to craft their own universe. Meanwhile WB has had all the DC properties and could have beaten them to the punch by years and yet couldn't get anything other than Batman off the ground (and they even killed that in 97 before Nolan). WB is a mess.

  • @peterherron4222
    @peterherron4222 3 роки тому +9

    Oooooooo new opening credits, nice

  • @ghostbeetle2950
    @ghostbeetle2950 3 роки тому

    Before I get into the video, can I just quickly say that I really liked your old intro music much better! It was pure awesome and very distinct. Unfortunately I really don't get the same vibe from the new intro. Sorry, please consider going back to the old one? Pretty please?

  • @adrianmanley
    @adrianmanley 3 роки тому

    Loved the segue into square space there! Much better at the end of the videos. ;)

  • @DoomRulz
    @DoomRulz 3 роки тому

    Geoff Johns helped green light Shazam!, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman. I'd hardly say they couldn't bring their comic acumen to the movies.

  • @jaywilson4520
    @jaywilson4520 3 роки тому

    The second half of that quote at 8:03 perfectly represents Zack Snyder's approach toward DC films.

  • @expeditocolladojr5240
    @expeditocolladojr5240 3 роки тому +2

    Dope new intro guys

  • @asianhippy
    @asianhippy 3 роки тому +5

    Tbh, I think i'm burned out on superhero films.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 3 роки тому

      That tends to happen when they don't want to make good films and instead insult their audience.

  • @SuperAshleyriot
    @SuperAshleyriot 3 роки тому +2

    Where can I get that intro track?

    • @TomasStavik
      @TomasStavik 3 роки тому +4

      It's made by my brother, Doydank, on soundcloud. He hasn't released a long version though. I have a 30 second version of the intro on my UA-cam channel.

  • @georgeso4364
    @georgeso4364 3 роки тому +4

    So they basically care more about short term $ than the long time fans.