Garmin Vivosmart 5 In-Depth Scientific Review
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
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Intro: First, let me share the most important background on this watch. The first thing that is important to note is that the Vivosmart 5 does not have on-board GPS, so you will still need to bring your phone if you want to track your route on your runs and rides. It can use the on-board accelerometer to estimate distance and also your pace if you do not have your phone with you, but this is not a full replacement of GPS by any means. It comes in two sizes, small/medium and large, so you will need to determine beforehand which size is the right one for you, and this could also make reselling slightly more tricky. The battery should last up to 7 days, if you do not use the continuous oxygen saturation measurements during the night, if you enable those features the battery life will drop to about 4 days. The Vivosmart 5 has a reasonable price at 150 dollars or 150 euros over here in Europe. The thing that bugs me most is that the screen of the Vivosmart is still monochrome, so basically black and white, and not in color. Where most competitors have moved on to full color displays, this feels a bit dated for a more premium smartband in 2022. Also, the Vivosmart 5 does not have Gorilla Glass, so it could potentially scratch a bit more easily. However, what matters for most of you on this channel is the health and sports tracking accuracy, so lets take a gander! Let’s start by looking at the features that performed best in my testing, and close off with the things the Vivosmart 5 did poorly. The thing I liked most about the Vivosmart 5 is it’s heart rate tracking.
Conclusion:
Overall, I am not very positive about the Garmin Vivosmart 5. The heart rate tracking is OK, but the other health and sport tracking features I tested appear mediocre or bad. Combine that with a design and monochrome screen that are quite dated, and I cannot generally recommend you buy the Vivosmart 5. Now, I did not go into things like body battery or stress, but I still think there are better alternatives, even from Garmin if you want to get into that ecosystem. The Instinct 2 for instance did quite well in my testing, though the sleep tracking is not great. If we move outside of the Garmin sphere, the Fitbit Charge 5 and Fitbit Luxe have pretty OK heart rate tracking and great sleep tracking, and both have a much more beautiful design and color screen. Overall, I’d give the Vivosmart 5 2.5 out of 5 stars based on my testing. I would personally rather use a Fitbit Charge 5 than the Garmin Vivosmart 5
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:58 Quick Background Info
02:14 Test 1: Good Results
08:11 Test 2: Mediocre Results
09:42 Test 3: Bad Results
11:41 Test 4: Worst Results
17:29 Recommendations - Наука та технологія
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I like the monocrhrome. I want my tracker to be as small and low key as possible.
Always well done and incredibly helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for the review Rob!
Even though you say ultimately don't buy, as a female with tiny wrists, I chose this tracker mostly based on your video. I like the simplicity of the display, the size, and I think it will be a great first time fitness tracker for me. I'm bummed it's overpriced and that REI doesn't sell it as they seem to sell everything else from Garmin.
This is by far the greatest channel on UA-cam! Kudos to you👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks so much Aditya!
thanks for review. i still watching it
background looks GREAT!
0:01 nice catch as opener, become a signature frame 😅
I've owned every fitbit charge from 1-5, every single one of them had to be replaced under warranty, and died shortly after warranty was over.
I also own the vivosmart 4 and 5. Both have been fully functioning despite lots of physical wear and tear.
Same. My charge 5 died within warranty. And the replacement died a few months after warranty. Moving to Garmin now
Same experience here regarding Fitbit durability!
Same for me! Will never buy Fitbit again
gracias por explicar tambien todos los aspectos, desecho en mi lista el vivosmart 5, vendi el fitbit 5 por ser un desastre en el conteo de los pasos.
I wanted to love it but I will just stick with my Galaxy Watch 3. I almost went with the charge 5 but the paywall is unacceptable to me and it was uncomfortable in the strap department. Sadly I had to return it!
Love your work!
I was really hoping the Vivosmart 5 would score well in your tests since I've decided to swear off Fitbit after my experience with the Charge 4 which was ridiculously buggy (and the refurbished replacement unit they sent was even worse), plus their customer support was tragically incompetent and, often times, unintelligible in both written and oral communications (in English)! Oh well... Thanks for another brilliant video all the same.
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Top notch content, as always! An unrelated question: Any idea why there a difference between the GT3 and the GT Runner even though they have the same sensor? I prefer the look of the GT3, but I want the most accurate (non-Apple) HR tracking and this leaves me in a bit of a pickle.
Hi Simon! Good question, and one which I haven't been able to figure out. I think one out of these three is most likely:
(1) Weight --> the GT Runner is significantly lighter, and might stay in place better
(2) Firmware ---> I tested the GT Runner later, so firmware might have improved
(3) Random chance of testing --> Maybe the fit was worse a few days of testing the GT3 for some reason?
Honestly, I am still unsure though
Hi, I really appreciate your in depth analysis about all of smart band/watch. You already covered most of official app, but have you ever try compared the analysis using SLEEP AS ANDROID for sleep phases. I found that it's better than most of official health app (on my galaxy watch active 2, miband 4 and mi band 6. It's worth to try 👍
Great Review...never saw like this. If automatic continuous stress monitoring & Body battery are my main things to track, would you suggest Vivosmart 5?
Love all your videos! I say the information you share is just as valuable as DC Rainmaker, which is a high compliment. Please keep up the great work!
it's actually superior, DCR is a garmin fanboy and typical tainted hia reviews in favor of garmin and unfavorable of anybody else (Suunto, Polar, Coros, Fitbit, whoop...) this channel is much more objective and fact base compare to "spot on" based on someones stomach feeling like DCR misinformation
Great video! could you upload the heart rate correlation values table with the so far tested watches (i want to choose which watch is the best)?
Is it possible Garmin have updated/will update the algorithm to improve sleep tracking, or is it the sensors? I'd definitely go for this if they improve the sleep tracking.
Very informative, thank you
The sleep tracking inaccuracy is definitely a deal breaker for me. I was hoping to get this for sleep and hr tracking since I don’t really need the bells and whistles of more expensive bands…
As always super info
Thank you so much for you great work. Your reviews are amazing. If i could make a request could you please do a review on the Polar Vantage V2. Im considering purching it because i purchased the polar h10 after watching your videos. But i only trust your opinion and would like to see your scientific testing on it first. Otherwise ill be purchasing the GT Runner since i use android.
which wearable would you recommend for HRV tracking? Ideally liveview on the display and decent statistics in the app or export funktion. Thanks!!
Another wonderful Scientific Review! Thank you.
One new device deserving your attention would be Huawei Watch D. I would love to see it analyzed it by you. Only you can find out if the certificates are actually real.
Hey Rob! Any chance you might review the Mi Watch S1 (and potentially the S1 Active)? Such a huge fan of your work!
I find it strange, that Garmin does so badly in terms of sleep tracking, despite putting so much effort into developing a new sleep tracking algorithm...🤷♂️
I totally agree.
With all of your smartwatch tests, which one would you recommend the best when it comes to a smartwatch, with a good heart tracking, sleep tracking, a watch that detects sudden moves or falls? There was a news article a few weeks ago that an Apple watch saved a person's life by detecting someone was having a heart attack and called 911... I don't use iPhone, but Android, so I'm in a search for a "king" watch as good as the Apple.
Cheers.
Hi Rob... Are you gonna try the new cardiomood? It looks like a whoop or something like that but cheaper subscription
I noticed there is Polar pacer pro on a comparison graph. Are you going to release a review video of this watch?
Just for comparison.. could you please make a review for the Vivosmart 4 too?
Thank you for the amazing review, great job as always! Any chance that data can be more accurate with some possibly upcoming firmware releases? That's not unusual especially with Garmin. Thank you!
Thanks a lot for this one. Could you please do a review of the Xiaomi Watch S1?
On the graph , I see the polar pacer pro , very interesting.
As a data analyst, I have watched many videos comparing Vivosmart 5 and other devices, but none of them gives me the objective numbers that I can rely on. I love your analysis and appreciate that you spent time to collect all that data. I'm going for the Fitbit charge 5.
How is the fitbit working out for you?
@@michamotyl7049 it has been 7 months and I'm disappointed. The screen is not as responsive as my previous mi band 4. The "find my phone " feature does not always work. The "touch to pay" feature is limited to certain countries (not my country). And there are redundant features like EDA and ECG which I only use once in a while. To top it of, it does not read Vietnamese-language messages. The sensor and everything in this video is correct though, but there are so many downsides as I mentioned above. I would have bought a mi band or a xiaomi band.
Hello, another great review.
If you see this please do Xiaomi Watch S1 active and Xiaomi Watch S1.
I used the Vivosmart 4 for about a year, and I can corroborate the results of the Vivosmart 5, because these are pretty much the results I always got when using it, so I was reluctant about upgrading to the fenix 7X Sapphire Solar, because I was thinking, paying €900 for the same crappy results? Well, the fenix 7 obviously has better results, but it's still significantly worse than Fitbit Sense 2 (which I also bought after looking at TQS reviews), Whoop and Apple devices. That said, the fenix 7 is okay at health stats. The oxygen saturation has gotten much better and the sleep monitoring has also improved a lot. Personally I believe it's an algorithm update that's needed for the fenix 7, but I'm not sure the Vivosmart can improve with an algorithm update. I'm probably gonna buy a Garmin Vivomove Sport just to get better health stats in Garmin Connect, and I'll wear the Vivomove until Garmin corrects the fenix 7. It's just a damn shame that such an expensive Garmin still doesn't hold its own against a cheaper Garmin like the Vivomove.
Use a chest strap for workouts
Will you review Suunto watches in the future?
Can you test and compare this to the VivoSmart 4? It’s around half the price on Amazon and it seems to have the same features.
Very interesting again!
Thanks so much, it is really appreciated
Which one of them is best for tracking overall daily calorie burn?
Your videos are great
great thanks!
Thanks for the review Rob, it was just what i need to make the choice.... to not buy it jejeje. Im looking for a good weareable that can give a reliable hrv measurement. I know that whoop does the job prety well but the subscription fee is to high, moreover if they use your own data. Im a long long time garmin user (since forerunner 305) and i feel prety comfy with the platform, so i think that i have to save more and wait for the venu 2. Thanks for all your great work, keep doing it, your channel plus Ray and Des ones are the go to source to make the best choice in term of sport weareables. Thanks again!!!
I feel like the smartwatch market is saturated with full blown 'watch' type and size devices but no company is actively developing these discreet little bands , which quite frankly are the only choice for hardcore mechanical watch lovers who still want to stay on top of their health. I dont need no fancy ,big screen(keep it monochrome), features and oversized band, just gimme HR,steps,sleep and basic readiness statistics, GPS would also be a plus and refine the device to where it looks miniscule , like a small bracelet and make it last a month in smartwatch mode. I wanna wear my classic analog watch and also am a fan of tracking my runs and looking at my health and i just look dumb wearing two watches but i still do it, because fck it.
What wearable do you recommend for sleep tracking? I was hoping this would do it but I'm going to cancel my order after watching this.
Have been waiting for this review, very very helpful as I was considering selling Fitbit charge5 and buying this Garmin band.. well you have actually saved me a hassle. I will stick to charge 5 for now even that it is far from perfect in sports tracking and my premium is running out in a couple of days.. I do cycle a lot and I use garmin bike computer, hr chest strap, speed and cadence sensors so already in garmin environment, app for a couple of years.. but vivosmart 5 is just disappointing.. Cheers!! Keep the brilliant work!!
can you add the polar watches to the sleep chart? it would be good to know where they stand
Awesome that since you've made comparison of heart-rate accuracy, those are now included in all of your videos. Seems we are still missing a killer device that would be superior with both heart-rate as well as sleep tracking. Blood oxyzen sensors seems to be in general mediocre at best compared to the dedicated devices
Agree. Personally i just want a HR and sleep tracking device without the other features of more expensive bands.
Lower the weights for bicep curls so you don't swing like a sailor in a storm. 😁
Since you talked about Whoop Strap. What about Whoop Bicep Band? It seems a good choice for those who can’t wear anything on their sleeves or want to wear usual non-smart watch but still able to track Health statistics. Anyway, your Channel is very much appreciated sir Quantified!
Please do the Haylou RT2!!! Thanks!
Please could you tell me if the ANT+ will always be on & emit radio signal or only during pairing & remaining time it will be off? ( eg will it still be searching) I understand you can switch off Bluetooth on these devices but would like to be able to cut out all radio transmissions when not needed. Thanks
I wish you went into the body battery feature! For me body battery is very helpful. I have ME/CFS and it seems to help me determine when I feel tired but don't really risk post-exertional malaise vs when ignoring my fatigue will set me back for days or more. I just use it for short walks and household chores, that's my "exercise". It was especially interesting to see my body battery crash completely when I had covid. I'm thinking of upgrading to another tracker, from my vivosmart 4, but would love to know if the body battery function is consistently reliable across Garmin devices and if any competitors have similar measurements. I guess it's just based on HRV, no? I also wonder if sleep quality affects the body battery calculations, because the vivosmart bands seem to be so bad at detecting sleep cycles.
Your videos are always so informative! I'd love it if they shared some insights relevant to people with chronic disease, instead of just fitness tracking for healthy people. There seems to be little information for us, I expect because people are scared to give medical advice. But there's so much potential for tools like this to help people self-manage their symptoms.
Any advice on a watch that combines good sleep tracking with a feature similar to body battery would be super welcome!
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Which watch did you end up buying?
Which watch did you end up buying?
@@user-me8jl2xi6v I still have the one I had last year, a vivosmart 4. I've had it for a couple years now and I do still use the body battery function to prevent post exertional malaise and bigger "crashes". It works well enough, but I would still like an upgrade to one that scores better on things like sleep tracking and it would be great to get an even better body battery function at some point.
Thanks Rob for making me cut the Vivosmart 5 off the list I put it on days before. This is absolutely no alternative to the mi band 6, and price wise it even becomes ridiculous. The FitBit Luxe is now available for roundabout 110€ und performs better in every way, though I don't know how its oxygen sensor does since you didn't test it. So, a release date of 10th of May for the mi band 7 is rumoured. Let's hope for the best. Also thanks for beeing so quick with testing after the EU product launch.
Hi Yodan! Not sure by heart if the Luxe has an SpO2 sensor, I thought it might not. Where did you hear the 10th of May release date, I am interested ;-) ?
@@TheQuantifiedScientist Hi Rob! The specs on the fitbit homepage clearly show a SpO2 monitoring for the Luxe, but only over night and not on command, which is probably why this feature can't be tested. And the mi band 7 release rumour I got from some unofficial website that popped up in my regular search for mi band 7 news.
The Mi Band 7 release is probably China releases. International version will be released probably later
Can you review ECG features of SmartWatches and compare it with Medical ECG Device ?
This was a great review. I’m looking forward if you ever do a dreem 2 vs Zmax head to head test which one is a better machine
Great suggestion!
@@TheQuantifiedScientist just been testing out the garmin venue 2. Your data is really accurate from what I gather from a week of testing it. Thank you for your quantifying 💪😁
@@IrregularTangent Happy to hear that!
good review. do it with poco watch pls. could you compare poco with redmi watch 2 lite too
I noted that Huawei bands and Honor bands are not in the correlation graph of external cycling, could you add these up?
With the helpnof ur 50 watch videos, i bought huawei band 6 and it's really helps me to be more productive than before. Thanks a lot
Really happy it helped FlutterShip!
@@TheQuantifiedScientist Yeah uve added value to society
So what's the best overall tracker without a subscription cost?
Hi Rob, one question can the measurement of any watch improve if we use it on the opposite part of the wrist (anatomically it would be the front part where there are no hairs)?
Hi Franco! Well, I am not sure. I wanted to test this at some point, but never committed to doing this. I think there are some issues with this, for instance:
(1) Watches and software are not calibrated for this location, and this might throw things off. That doesn't mean that it couldn't be better this way if they were tweaked for the inner part of the wrist/
(2) People just don't wear watches like this generally, especially the thicker ones. I have found it cumbersome when trying personally, bumping the watches into things
That all being said, maybe there is a scenario where it does make sense that I haven't thought of. Happy to be convinced
@@TheQuantifiedScientist thanks , I understand what you're saying. I thought of it as to move it if you do weightlifting or crossfit so as not to hit the clock with the KB or that it does not bother you when you flex your wrist.
@@TheQuantifiedScientist The scenario is garmin "rash". A common allergic reaction to the silicon straps they use since years. Many of my friends had that and it can be found thousand times in their online forums. People sometimes try switching arms daily, though it does not solve the problem all that well. Garmin has a left/right arm setting on most watches. I'd hope it changes something.
I have this allergy issue with Garmin bands and it is very annoying. Even their nylon band caused rashes on my arm. Any cheap alternative Chinese replacement band works without any issue but is low quality and often doesn't even fit the watches without modification. I'd really like to know what is wrong with these bands. I even had their leather ones. They color your skin with the leather color and are NOT vegetable tanned, so basically cheap trash.
Amazing review.
Being a specialist doctor, Endocrinologist, I trust not many UA-camrs.
But you are just amazing. In fact I waited for your review last year before getting my fitbit charge 5.
Best of luck dear
Hello, what are your impressions of the Fitbit bracelet after all this time? Have you had any hardware issues and are you generally happy with Fitbit products?
@@BacaBaconi
Very happy with it
@@sujitchandratreya1 thanks👌
I will use Vivosmart 4 because the next version is not big update
can you conduct a detailed review of garmin forerunner 55 whose current offered price is 150 usd in my country?. i need a watch eligible to monitor my sleep, stepcount accurately.
Hi Rob, after your review there's been a few firmare update, the device seems to be working pretty fine to me at this point, it would be cool if you would have the time to take a new test...just my 2 cents indeed :)
I've been comparing the heart rate with a polar chest strap and results were pretty much accurate even with weights (apart biceps curls, where every wrist device seems to be struggling), even the sleep felt on point. I usually wake up at night and while fitbit stop recording my sleep once I woke up, even if I'm sleeping back few more hours (that's happening with all the fitbit devices I have), this little guy nailed it. I would be really curious to see if my personal experience would match a new test with your scientific approach!
Thank you in advance, in any case:)
+1 here! I just got one and I like it, but also enjoyed the video too really well compiled 😎🤩👍 thank you 😊
So if you already did the tests, why would you want him to de a review..? 😅
I really disagree with the fitbit charge 5 recommendation, fitbits break so frequently they don't represent good value for money.
Yep. My charge 5 died a week before the warranty ended. The replacement they sent died a few months after the warranty expired. Moving to Garmin
@@ryansupek3619 I moved to a Huawei band 8 and after adjusting to the app have been really impressed. Beats the charge 5 in every respect. Sleep tracking is very poor though 🤷♂️
which do you prefer, vivosmart 5 or huawei band 7?
Hey , can you do an accuracy test to magene h64 a known cheep chest heart rate monitor vs polar H10 an accurate known one ?
Fitbit are ok but you have to pay for your own data. Also I found the charge 5 awful at sleep tracking, cutting out several times. My charge 3 was much better and never failed. I’ve upraded to the venu 2 now because I hated Fitbit charging for features other companies are offering for free….
Could you consider on doing a video about Realme band 2 please
Looking for a small band to sleep with... How is the vibration alarm strength?
Should i buy the Mi Band 8 over the Garmin Vivosmart 5?
Why don't you do vivosport clip? Or have done please inform link.
Please do a scientific review of the Xiaomi S1 Watch or S1 Watch Active
Can we expect poco watch review?
can it broadcast heart rate?
My battery life is a day with all extras cut off-down to 10-5% by 9ish pm. With everything on (vo2 etc) I’m out by 6ish pm. It’s so bad I think the battery is bad and am going to see about a warranty replacement.
My vivosmart 4 is terrible at sleep tracking. I have to run a stopwatch and combine that data to figure out how I slept.
0:00 every time he does that i jump thinking he's going to drop it
what does the y axis represent? what is the worst sleeping stage?
Hi Malin! It is the sleep stage that is worst out of the 4. This can be different for each watch
It is a shame that the VIvomove Sport has the best garmin sleep tracking but no sleep score. Garmin should give this feature the vivomove sport....
I know people like to compare it to the Fitbit Charge 5, but the Luxe is a better comparison in terms of size and features. The Luxe is selling for $90 right now in some places.
So imo, Garmin really dropped the ball with this pricing on this product. Which is a shame because some people actually like the looks of it.
No way.....Garmin is way more cheaper than Fitbit, because it has all the features without any monthly subscription.
I had to subscribe :)
right choice!
I wonder if we can find a beautiful watch with an accurate sleep tracking, smart alarm feature and battery life above a week.
I know fitbits but are not so beautiful and kind of back in technology
Hi Vasilis! I think there will be no watch that "does it all". Luckily, what you are describing is not "all", but I would think Fitbit is still the device that comes closest. You don't like the design of Fitbit?
@@TheQuantifiedScientist Thanks for your reply. I would say not that much. I found Venu 2 as a good all around watch with these features but still sleep tracking is not as good as fitbit. It would be nice I think to evaluate smart alarm feature and if you wake up fresh that days. Amazing work! Keep it up! :)
In my experience, Charge 5 has terrible sleep tracking. I often wake up at 3 or 4 am and cannot get back to sleep for 2 or 3 hours, but it usually tells me that i have slept through the night and gotten 10.5hrs of sleep, when in reality i have gotten 6. I appreciate the info tho, I had been thinking about getting the vivosmart 5, but am rethinking it now. Thank you.
That price makes no sense. $115 for a monochrome screen, no GPS?
There are trackers in the market for half that price with same features
👍👍👍
Thanks as always James!
It seems a bit irresponsible to be recommending the Fitbit Charge 5 without warning viewers that the GPS and HR functions can't be used simultaneously ...
What better watch is Samsung Watch 4 Classic or Huawei Watch 3 or Huawei Gt3?
Huawei Gt3 !
For heart rate Huawei Watch GT3 is likely the best out of these
@@TheQuantifiedScientist thanks
@@MimiMimi-sl4fc 😊
For people who doesn't like watches, it seems more and more that the only reliable option is the Fitbit Charge 5. It sucks because of the subscription. I'll wait for an Apple ring. Or it'd be great for apple to make a band.
It costs like 5 times more than Mi band 6 and it loses to it in all categories. Who is buying it?
Its good for its price
Why i just watched this after buy vivosmart 5 :(
confirmation bias 😂
how come you dont do the step tracking anymore?
he did, head to 8:13
Battery life (w/o any battery conservation) lasts ~1.5 days w/o charging.
Garmin is dead for the price
Well... Surely will not sell, to my opinion, many of these bands, however... With their outdoors series are far from death, even with completely unreasonable prices......
Garmin Vivosmart o Garmin Vivomove Sport????
i have low heartbeat, some time about 33 bpm:
i am using vivoactive 3 element:
how can i made alert when my heartbeat under 37 bpm:
Thanhs anyone can anwser me: !!!
Geduldig wachtende op mi band 7
Hi Robert! Yes, I am also waiting to see when it releases and if I can get my hands on it 😊