Blast from the past, back in 2015 when I first discovered this hack it was fun. The chip to get however is the 2696V3, this was a OEM chip released around a year after the 2699V3. That has a turbo of 3.8, with an undervolt and BCLK oc you can be boosting to 4.0 during games. Another great chip is a QS version of the 2695V3, that one was quirky that it came with a 3.5 turbo as opposed to the 3.3 turbo. But would boost to 3.6. I think there are a lot of chips like this you just have to track them down.
Yeah I will probably order a heap of them in and more of the budget motherboards, the inverse relationship of higher clocks and lower voltages means also getting a power supply with the lowest ripple possible, but also to keep it budget the lowest price... Hmmmm, I find this stuff... extremely fun :P.
@@Machacador1996 Yup I have one of those :) I was testing that machine out and scored my highest scoring Apex Legends game to date with over 2500 damage and a win, I recorded it and posted it on youtube, it was great. Needless to say, it ran Apex like a freaking dream, it was paired with an rx580 but can handle more. edit: I was used a modified bios from a Russian youtuber who's name I can't remember to boost across as many cores as it can with 125watt tdp. From what I understand you cant undervolt the 2678 but I guess I just need a more special bios :)
@@Aquabyte often come from laptop probably motherboard defect than strapped to lga format and come whit direct die cooliing fairly sure tech yes man got video on those was getting interesting power draw value and six and 8 core on the budget draw back is limited board compatibility as often the case whit budget deal whit cpu ^^.
I remember once I bought a PC with amd athlon ii x3 CPU that thing was a triple core CPU but you could unlock a 4 core in bios and hope for the best. Love when you can do these kind of things to tech.
That case really takes me back. I had bought a cheaper version in the early 2000s without the temp sensor. Actually sold it to a buddy of mine who still has it to this day lol. Got it from xoxide pc. Love the content!
Would love to see this build with a more modern gpu like a RTX 3060TI/RTX3070/RTX3080 VS B450 + Ryzen 5600x because this build are very similar in term of price and is brand new.
@@techyescity What would have been more beneficial is to use the 3080 in both systems to compare processor performance. You could also test the 1080 in both systems.
@@techyescity 3060s will do fine too, i was just pointing at RTX Founders Edition models :) price are still high and only FE are decent, not sure if they are still available world wide, but from what i see there is still drop of them from time to time.
@@W.M2704 I have checked and apparently it's 2698 V3 vs 5600x, not 2699 but from i have seen 5600x has better power consumption (thanks to his 7nm vs 22) and will have better fps specially low fps in games that favor ipc over multicores,Sadly he didn't show 1% low all the time and 0.1% fps is missing. Thank you for making me discover this channel.
I've been subscribed to Miyconst for over a year now, and this is exactly how I found his channel back then :) Unfortunately I couldn't get the 2678 V3 unlocked on my X99-E board either. I think I had the same problem as you... I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working, so I'm excited to give it another go now! I'm glad I didn't end up selling the 2678 V3 again...
I always love when you are making these XEONS CPU builds. That's what makes me hooks up to your channel Brian! It's your forte! Please take a good care of yourself and your love ones. Have a great day! Always! Cheers mate!
I have a 12 core xeon 2009 mac pro with a vega 64. Built it before the pandemic for less than 1k. Its a perfectly capable workstation. Keeps up with todays hardware.
Awesome af build, especially for that price! My rig cost me a lot more in dec 2022 & some parts up into feb 2023: e5 2698 v3 64GB ecc reg memory & a gtx 1080 Ti. IM LOVING IT!
Hi Bryan. I really enjoyed this one even if I have no need for a 18 cores 36 threads rig. Anyway, you worked hard to squeeze out from this setup each drop of juice so that it can give it's best. Thank you for this one!
OSes can use all those cores. Its noticeable on my dual Xeon E5-2690, 16 cores and 32 threads, Linux uses the cores/threads for tasks. System monitor shows the low % activity going on across cores, seems very balanced.
I did this with the dual socket system about 4 years ago. Had two E5-2686v3's. IIRC you can bypass the issue by making sure that the end one has either the same size or hash as the original or maybe it's getting it signed correctly. But anyway there's definitely a way to do it. Super cool video!
I grabbed one of these off eBay after watching your video and after tweaking everything it benchmarks almost identical to a 1950x Threadripper. Not to mention I am getting the multithreaded performance of basically a modern 10 core. So this used $200 CPU performs faster than a $400-500 modern CPU in multithreaded task. These chips are incredibly stable and are very low heat when doing big work loads. My i9 10850k hits 90c+ when encoding and my 2699v3 barely gets over 60c with similar performance. It is really crazy how well these chips perform.
Yeah I had dual Xeon system, it was nice having 16 core 32 threads and I as well was able to get the CPU to run at its max boost on all cores with some bios trickery on this particular board, awesome system for its age but I moved to a 5800x system, and that single core speed help a ton for what I do with it.
I have a 360 AIO on mine, as my thoughts were that this thing was gonna run hot since 18 cores. However, upon owning it for about 6 months now, the 360 is complete overkill. Oh well, at least it does a great job and looks nice. Thanks for the tune tips, I might give it a try.
I've been trying to decide on a direction to go for my baby sister's first real PC (meaning not some store bought POS) and I wanted to try to get her something that's not top of the line but is also newer in general like a 5600X or equivalent. Already bought an entry level GPU that was still overpriced but nowhere near what anything higher is and will last her well enough until MAYBE other stuff is not ridiculous. The cheapest I can find decent parts otherwise for it based on the ones I know personally are more reliable is about $1,000 USD. I don't have the PC building expertise to be pulling off builds like this and it is painful every time I see you post one because I wish I could do it. :) Not complaining though. Just musing. Love the videos.
I recommend getting a second hand pc, or buying second-hand parts in building your own until prices come back down to sanity levels. Good luck with your build!
The i5 10400F is not a bad value option. It's about 20% slower than the Ryzen 5 5600X but only just above half the price. Granted, Intel motherboards are trash and you need to spend about twice as much on your motherboard to get the full potential of the CPU with the same features as you could get with a Ryzen 5 5600X on a B450/A520 motherboard, so the deal isn't nearly as good as it sounds at first, but $120+$180 is still more than 20% below $70+$310. Low-end Intel motherboards often enforce weird power limits (sometimes even below Intel's official power spec) which prevent the CPU running at its boost speed on all cores, and don't allow you to run RAM faster than the CPU's officially supported memory speed. If you go for an i5 10400F, choose a Z490 or B560 motherboard, enable XMP, and disable CPU power limits, especially if your sister is a gamer. Slow RAM cripples CPU performance in games for both Intel and AMD (some people claim only AMD is affected - this is not true, AMD is just affected a bit more than Intel). And even if you choose a trash H410/H510 motherboard, you'd be getting about 60% of the performance of a Ryzen 5 5600X for about 60% of the overall platform price. It's not _better_ value, and it would be significantly slower, but it's not necessarily bad either.
@@ZaelleLexil The best B560 under 140 USD and 11400f would be my pick or 11600k if the price is within +$30 of it. Or if you can find a z490/10600k combo for cheaper then go with that. 16gb 3200-3600 cl16 ram would be sweet. On amazon right now the MSI B560m Pro VDH is $110. If you went the smaller case route that would be a nice micro atx board option at that price.
It's October 2024, and I just bought one of these for $40 US. Gonna drop it into an Asus X99 Deluxe II board in place of a 6850K. I have no real interest in overclocking it or even daily driving it. It'll just be a cool machine to have.
I imagine whoever wants to game on this thing disabling HT is also good idea, maybe could bring a little bit of clockspeed up as well. Even some editing programs who has difficulties utilizing more than 16thrteads should benefit from it.
You're very right, I tried that with the 2696v3, even more highly clocked version of this one and it performed better for gaming with 8 cores active and HT disabled
@@dieantischeisse disabling HT on 8 core can be a good and bad idea, it should depend on the game, these days games can easily saturate 8 cpu threads, and since 2696v3 doesnt have that amazing single core speed compared to modern standards i think leaving HT should be preferred way of using it, but again it depends on game and probably your gpu as well :)
@@h1tzzYT Not really. You have to look at the i7-9700K, fairly recent CPU. 8c/8t, still pretty good in games. 4c/8t on the other hand is not . High core counts Xeons like this don't do well in gaming due to high L3 cache latency and memory latency . Longer ring bus is not helping neither.
@@fleurdewin7958 well 9700k will have significantly higher ipc and clockspeed than these xeons so its not really fair comparing to it as it will manage to just scrape by with its good single core speed. 9700k gets maxed out in quite a few games, provided you have strong enough gpu to pull those frames. try running games like cyberpunk, a total war troy, shadow of the tomb raider and other cpu demanding games on that modified 8c/8t xeon you will see that without HT it should struggle with framrate consistency.
undervolt the cache on haswell it made a difference on a laptop that got hot and power throttled will make a shit load more difference with the dual ring setup on those xeons
Labor Intensive Video. Thank's for putting in all the (not insignificant) Legwork. I've noticed the 2000's era movie posters on the back walls. What are your top 5 movies? I might have something for you!!!
Great build, thinking of making a similar machine as the multi core/thread is becoming essential these days. Can you compare it to modern CPU choices like the 10900k please
Pretty sure TDP limit on the E5-2699v3 is the same as the E5-2696v3 @ 145W. The 2696v3 has a slightly higher turbo-boost (3.8Ghz vs 3.6Ghz) and is compatible with either DDR3 or DDR4; the 2699v3 only works with DDR4. 2696v3 was released about 1 year after the 2699v3.
Just some info, there are 2 different models "ASUS X99-A" and a later revision "ASUS X99-A II" One difference compared to Asus’ original X99-A is that the X99-A II board is fitted with two CPU power connectors: one eight-pin EPS12V and one four-pin ATX12V. This may make a huge difference with power limits and how far these xeons can be pushed on this setup.
Good day.... I currently have a HP Z420 with a Xeon E5-2687w v2 / factory water cooler / xt 5700t / 32g ddr 3. / ssd. I only play Star Citizen and World of Warcraft and like to edit family / motorcycle riding taken videos on occasion. Star Citizen is a mess in development for 10 years now lol and currently takes advantage of multi cores. I am aiming for either a HP Z440 with a E5-2699p v4 or going all in with a HP 840 with dual E5-2699p v4's....... The upgrade from ddr3 to ddr4 and cpu upgrade should suit me nicely.
Just finished the 2nd half of the video today, and I gotta say.. TDP locked overclocking is fun. I had to do the same on my 1050 Ti that has no power connectors. I got a huge performance uplift in Cyberpunk by undervolting it :D over 30% I believe, it's now performing better than the median 1050 Ti that is not power limited. Made a big difference in GTA V too.
Definitely an awesome build. I've been playing with an x79 board and a gtx1080. I'm planning on the 1660v2 and hopefully 2133 or 2400 ddr3. But I would love to try x99 and up.
You might already be aware of this, but your outro music completely drowned out your final comments. :( I'm looking to upgrade from an i7-8700K to something I can put more RAM into (I'm a heavy VMware Workstation user) and you've given me a potential low-cost solution to that problem. Thanks!
I have a Supermicro 1U server with 128GB RAM and two E5-2697V3 cpus for a total of 28cores. Not a gaming machine - no graphics card, but I'm using this for high-performance computing for transistor modeling and circuit design which contains optimization steps that are very compute-intensive. I'd love to see if I can boost the clock rates and performance.
Hi, do you still have a copy of the Asus BIOS that Kamaras made as his Google Drive-hosted version no longer exists? I'd like to unlock the Xeon E-2699 on an Asus X99-A II motherboard but I am not confident with some of the tools from Myconst's tutorial. Thanks, Gary
Bryan, I have the same motherboard and was wondering if you had a link to the unlocked bios for the Asus 99-A. The google link in the forum post in your video no longer hosts that file. Thanks
I would go, and I did, with the 6950x. It's 10 cores and 20 threads with much faster base clock and easily overclockable to 4. 5 GHz. The price is just a bit higher but it's worth it. Your yields are going to be much higher. It Is also built on the 14 NM process instead of the 22nm process of the 2699 V3.
Yo Tech Yes City, I need an X99 mobo and a CPU. What do you recommend these days? Looking to build something around $500 not including case, Gpu or Nvme/Ssd. Also 1080ti or something else? I plan to build in 2 months.
When considering value, the utility with Win11 should be a factor. Looks like it is ewaste or linux after windows 10 end of support. Annoying the way Win 11 isn't supporting older perfectly useful hardware.
Yeah man....i have been running a overclocked 6 core 5930k on a high end Asrock X99 board since 2015. The only reason i have not hopped on these Xeons is windows 11! It is such a shame what Microsoft has done with windows 11.
Hey brian, I have a Intel Xeon E3-1246 V3 which has a base clock of 3.5GHz and turbo up to 3.9 GHz. Now my problem is, all core turbo is only 3.7GHz do you have some any idea to turbo unlock this processor to run at its maximum turbo speed on all cores? Motherboard I’m using is Asus Z87-K LGA 1150
I still have a 12 Core model of one of these CPUs sitting in a PC next to me, I really gotta get around to doing a max turbo boost unlock on it and doing something with it.
Loving the content as always Bry Man! I built a system with a similar CPU and x99 board a little while ago - lot of fun to tinker with. One video I'd love to see is a ram tuning guide. I know little about it man, so any help would be greatly appreciated. All the best and say hi to P Man for me.
Good video! but that would have been fun to see the this processor with the RTX3080 too... just to see the difference between the two processors result.
Hair looking sharp bro :) Thats an impressive budget rig wow. I've watched all your old videos on Xeon's its what got me in to them! I have an E5 2678 v3 based system myself on an msi motherboard. Unlocked across all cores, I dont use it much though sadly. Awesome video though what a lil budget beast.
Those xeons can do a lot ;) I personally use E5 2667v2 with RTX3070 for 4K Gaming!!! Cpu is rarely over 50% load, mostly RTX 3070 prevents me from maxed out gaming.
Had to reinstall Win10Pro after almost 3 years (was acting wonky) so I decided to upgrade HW in parallel, from E5-1680v2 (OC 4.3GHz) w/ASUS P9X79Pro +32 GGB DDR3 1600 desktop ram to: E5-2678V3 (turbo-unlocked/all-core/3.3Ghz) + HuananZhi X99TF + 32GB 1866 Mushkin Redline desktop ram. 12 Cores/ 24 threads. Runs very cool on air even when benchmarked/stressed. Turbounlock performed using MiyConst youtuber's Mi899 software (free TU tool with built in scripts and flash ready / compatible bios library). A few clicks and the TU was done perfectly. Excellent for productivity and no issues gaming 1080p on ultra or even 1440p with the right GPU. Currently paired to GTX1080Ti, though I've also tried our RTX2080 Super with good results, too.
@@jb678901 Thats xeon bro :D Haha, mee to reinstalled windows on my xeon and rtx and thats it :D But i need upgrade to 64 or myb 128 ecc ddr3 1866 if i not find 2133. Assetto Corsa, Content Manager is very hungry for RAM, so even the current 24GB is not enough. I will skip 32 because I can already see that there won't be enough. Over 300gb of mods
Thx for the guide... i will try to boost my system with this guide.... because i just got mine like last week because i wanted to originally make a decent NAS server that does other things on the side... Yea, you're right about those memory... i mean i found some cheap DDR4 RDIMM 16GB single sticks used and these used E5-2670v3 and a X99-F8 board from china are really cheap so i built a home server..... And this thing could game if i put a GPU in it..... and for spending around $510 USD on this dead end platform, it has better value than any of the new stuff and is no slouch at being a good system... and they can be a virtualizing monster for cheap and act as a good nas / server as well as a Pi-hole and DNS server... i only got my r7 1700 because i wanted the extra cores back in the day.... now that i have this system i am thinking of just retiring my r7 1700 system... those extra 4 cores are amazing even if its slower because i can run extra stuff in the background with truly minimal impact as compared to my current main set up...
Still running 1080ti W/ 5950x here - given how long it took just to get the 5950x, I didn't bother upgrading my GPU + aside from maybe DLSS, it's not like ray tracing on its own is enticing enough to upgrade (I run RTX voice on my 1080ti already too)
Hi, ive recently purchased a hp z640 and put a e5 2699 v3 in and wanted to do the turbo boost. I tried to follow instructions from a previous vid of yours but my bios is locked and the hp menu does not offer as many options to change or i havnt explored it enough to find cpu and turbo settings.
I will admit, that recently (here in Poland) prices for Zen1 Threadripper 1900/1920 is dirt cheap. A used x399 though isn't yet, but paritin the two together brings a very nice "recent" gen tech. And being unlocked gives more flexibility on tweaking. And I do expect with Windows 11 not supproting it. Zen1 TR's are goign to show up more on the resale.
@Tech YES City I think the TDP-limit is set a little differently. The important setting in the UEFI is "CPU current cability" 140%. This effectively rises the TDP to 140%. The rest of the turbo-parameters will be ignored on a Xeon, except the BCLK. For testing leave the BCLK to 100MHz, else the CPU power will likely display around 1W. Test the CPU with CPU-Z, and do a stress test with AVX2 (all threads-2, else CPU-Z can hang). I've a MSI-Board and a 2698V3, but it should be very similar. The results on my system on default settings are: AVX2, 154W (first 40 seconds), 3,0 GHz. AVX2, 135W (after 40s), 2,8 GHz UEFI-setting "CPU Current Protection = 140%" (CPU current cability) AVX2, 116W x 140% = 162W (infinited time), 3,0 GHz. The AVX2-perfomance can be increased, if the CPU-microcode is 0x1F or 0x27 instead of 0x43 by default (you can check it by Aida64/CPUID). AVX2, 130W x 140% = 182W (infinited time), 3,2 GHz. The AVX2-perfomace can be increased even more, if the microcode.dat is deleted completly (0x0), but the problem is, the CPU goes randomly to 1,2 GHz. But for testing: AVX2, 140W x 140% = 196W (first 40 seconds), 3,4 GHz. AVX2, 135W x 140% = 189W (after 40 seconds), 3,3 GHz. If "CPU Current Protection" is set to 150%, it will stay on 3,4 GHz all time.
I'd love to see what a pair of 2696 V3's would do if you unlock the turbo on them like this, if all goes well I'm about to pick up a Z10PE-D8 WS with an 8x4 kit of ram (will be upgraded soon as possible) and a pair of E5 2640 V3's, I'm planning on doing the turbo unlock on this one too, and it seems that it's much simpler with asus boards too so that's a nice bonus
@Brian Tech Yes City : I was wondering if you could maybe revisit this 2699 v3 CPU but on a x99 Jingsha or Machinist based motherboard? Would the tuning options be similar? Between your channel, myconst and philscomputerlab, got me interested in the Xeons. I built my first used Xeon e5-2650 v2 with 16gb ddr3-1333 ecc in quad channel (x79 Kllisre + the e5-2650 vw & ram came as a combo) + palit 8600GT+ 1GB for video back in Octob er of 2021. This my daily driver, non gaming rig. I currently run Linux Mint 19.3 on it
I bought the 2698v3 (16-core) for $60. My mainboard (dell) does not seem to allow unlocking but nonetheless very happy about the perf/price ratio. Now I just need to find something to do with it.
Nice video. Did you use a particular make/model of power supply in order to be a little more accurate on power testing. One with the best rating as possible so there is little waste power being measured
Blast from the past, back in 2015 when I first discovered this hack it was fun. The chip to get however is the 2696V3, this was a OEM chip released around a year after the 2699V3. That has a turbo of 3.8, with an undervolt and BCLK oc you can be boosting to 4.0 during games. Another great chip is a QS version of the 2695V3, that one was quirky that it came with a 3.5 turbo as opposed to the 3.3 turbo. But would boost to 3.6. I think there are a lot of chips like this you just have to track them down.
the more budget, 100€ 2678v3 3,3ghz turbo boost hack
Yeah I will probably order a heap of them in and more of the budget motherboards, the inverse relationship of higher clocks and lower voltages means also getting a power supply with the lowest ripple possible, but also to keep it budget the lowest price... Hmmmm, I find this stuff... extremely fun :P.
@@Machacador1996 Yup I have one of those :) I was testing that machine out and scored my highest scoring Apex Legends game to date with over 2500 damage and a win, I recorded it and posted it on youtube, it was great. Needless to say, it ran Apex like a freaking dream, it was paired with an rx580 but can handle more. edit: I was used a modified bios from a Russian youtuber who's name I can't remember to boost across as many cores as it can with 125watt tdp. From what I understand you cant undervolt the 2678 but I guess I just need a more special bios :)
Keep diggin
Any idea of you can do this on a dual CPU supermicro server motherboard like the X10DRG-Q?
Digging the shoutout for Miyconst, his videos are what sent me down this rabbit hole once upon a time.
I'll never build something as exotic as this machine, but lots of fun watching you do it. Congrats on making the case work with these parts.
I always recommend the v3's over the v4's because of the forced turbo boost. It's really awesome, or should i say, really popaloppin'
I agree, but it’s better to go for those bga to lga cpus then a cheap Xeon ( 102cores or less). Now that the qqls is $135
@@mikesoro5052 BGA Intel CPUs?
@@Aquabyte often come from laptop probably motherboard defect than strapped to lga format and come whit direct die cooliing fairly sure tech yes man got video on those was getting interesting power draw value and six and 8 core on the budget draw back is limited board compatibility as often the case whit budget deal whit cpu ^^.
@@mikesoro5052 the BGA to LGA CPUs are too expensive... at that point, you're better off buying something more modern instead...
@@HazewinDog Not if you know how to buy direct from Taobao. 10980hk for $135.
I took a break from UA-cam for such a long time and Jesus your channel exploded. So glad to see you doing so well, very well deserved!!
I remember once I bought a PC with amd athlon ii x3 CPU that thing was a triple core CPU but you could unlock a 4 core in bios and hope for the best. Love when you can do these kind of things to tech.
Honestly that was on the edge of gambling.
Nice C&C outro music! Sure brings me back to the good old days of gaming. Much props Biran!
That case really takes me back. I had bought a cheaper version in the early 2000s without the temp sensor. Actually sold it to a buddy of mine who still has it to this day lol. Got it from xoxide pc. Love the content!
Name of the case?
Awesome video, Inspiring and Motivating throughout.
You're Awesome !
I miss building pc's and messing with xeon's! Maybe things with get back to normal soon! Thanks Brian!
Would love to see this build with a more modern gpu like a RTX 3060TI/RTX3070/RTX3080 VS B450 + Ryzen 5600x because this build are very similar in term of price and is brand new.
myconst hardware channel already does this , you can check the channel out ^^
Maybe a 3060? I think the other GPUs are really overpriced right now, the 3060s are at least at nondonor selling prices.
@@techyescity What would have been more beneficial is to use the 3080 in both systems to compare processor performance. You could also test the 1080 in both systems.
@@techyescity 3060s will do fine too, i was just pointing at RTX Founders Edition models :) price are still high and only FE are decent, not sure if they are still available world wide, but from what i see there is still drop of them from time to time.
@@W.M2704 I have checked and apparently it's 2698 V3 vs 5600x, not 2699 but from i have seen 5600x has better power consumption (thanks to his 7nm vs 22) and will have better fps specially low fps in games that favor ipc over multicores,Sadly he didn't show 1% low all the time and 0.1% fps is missing.
Thank you for making me discover this channel.
Yea this is gold man. Noone else as well or better known as you are putting out vids like this." That i know of anyway".
I've been subscribed to Miyconst for over a year now, and this is exactly how I found his channel back then :) Unfortunately I couldn't get the 2678 V3 unlocked on my X99-E board either. I think I had the same problem as you... I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working, so I'm excited to give it another go now! I'm glad I didn't end up selling the 2678 V3 again...
Tech Yes City Xeon videos are the best! Keep 'em coming!
Fantastic review!! Part 1 and 2 was well done!
I always love when you are making these XEONS CPU builds. That's what makes me hooks up to your channel Brian! It's your forte! Please take a good care of yourself and your love ones. Have a great day! Always! Cheers mate!
I have a 12 core xeon 2009 mac pro with a vega 64. Built it before the pandemic for less than 1k. Its a perfectly capable workstation. Keeps up with todays hardware.
Awesome af build, especially for that price! My rig cost me a lot more in dec 2022 & some parts up into feb 2023: e5 2698 v3 64GB ecc reg memory & a gtx 1080 Ti. IM LOVING IT!
Hi Bryan. I really enjoyed this one even if I have no need for a 18 cores 36 threads rig. Anyway, you worked hard to squeeze out from this setup each drop of juice so that it can give it's best. Thank you for this one!
OSes can use all those cores. Its noticeable on my dual Xeon E5-2690, 16 cores and 32 threads, Linux uses the cores/threads for tasks. System monitor shows the low % activity going on across cores, seems very balanced.
I did this with the dual socket system about 4 years ago. Had two E5-2686v3's. IIRC you can bypass the issue by making sure that the end one has either the same size or hash as the original or maybe it's getting it signed correctly. But anyway there's definitely a way to do it. Super cool video!
Staring at Bryan's dusty monitor at around the 6 minute mark, made me think that my own monitor was that dusty for a minute.
I was editing and thought, "I hope no one notices this" lol..
I didn’t notice until I read this hahaha
really like the old school case.
great build.
cheers for sharing
I grabbed one of these off eBay after watching your video and after tweaking everything it benchmarks almost identical to a 1950x Threadripper. Not to mention I am getting the multithreaded performance of basically a modern 10 core. So this used $200 CPU performs faster than a $400-500 modern CPU in multithreaded task. These chips are incredibly stable and are very low heat when doing big work loads. My i9 10850k hits 90c+ when encoding and my 2699v3 barely gets over 60c with similar performance. It is really crazy how well these chips perform.
hey man you are doing a service thanks ole buddy for doin what you do from across the pond
Watch out folks, there's a jerker lurkin'
Yeah I had dual Xeon system, it was nice having 16 core 32 threads and I as well was able to get the CPU to run at its max boost on all cores with some bios trickery on this particular board, awesome system for its age but I moved to a 5800x system, and that single core speed help a ton for what I do with it.
Nice work! Dont need new PC, just have good relaxation when watching this video
You are the ARCHITECT of budget monster workstation pc's !
Love the Xeon E5 content. Keep it coming :)
Going to build with the same cpu soon - just ordered the parts I am hype
dual Xeon E5-2690 v1 which is 2011 X79 , 100W idle, 400W running Cinebench. the fan noise is awesome, helps to be slightly deaf.
Love your work brother
I have a 360 AIO on mine, as my thoughts were that this thing was gonna run hot since 18 cores. However, upon owning it for about 6 months now, the 360 is complete overkill. Oh well, at least it does a great job and looks nice. Thanks for the tune tips, I might give it a try.
being honest about things makes your site watchable
I've been trying to decide on a direction to go for my baby sister's first real PC (meaning not some store bought POS) and I wanted to try to get her something that's not top of the line but is also newer in general like a 5600X or equivalent. Already bought an entry level GPU that was still overpriced but nowhere near what anything higher is and will last her well enough until MAYBE other stuff is not ridiculous. The cheapest I can find decent parts otherwise for it based on the ones I know personally are more reliable is about $1,000 USD. I don't have the PC building expertise to be pulling off builds like this and it is painful every time I see you post one because I wish I could do it. :) Not complaining though. Just musing. Love the videos.
I recommend getting a second hand pc, or buying second-hand parts in building your own until prices come back down to sanity levels. Good luck with your build!
What gpu did you get out of curiosity?
The i5 10400F is not a bad value option. It's about 20% slower than the Ryzen 5 5600X but only just above half the price.
Granted, Intel motherboards are trash and you need to spend about twice as much on your motherboard to get the full potential of the CPU with the same features as you could get with a Ryzen 5 5600X on a B450/A520 motherboard, so the deal isn't nearly as good as it sounds at first, but $120+$180 is still more than 20% below $70+$310. Low-end Intel motherboards often enforce weird power limits (sometimes even below Intel's official power spec) which prevent the CPU running at its boost speed on all cores, and don't allow you to run RAM faster than the CPU's officially supported memory speed.
If you go for an i5 10400F, choose a Z490 or B560 motherboard, enable XMP, and disable CPU power limits, especially if your sister is a gamer. Slow RAM cripples CPU performance in games for both Intel and AMD (some people claim only AMD is affected - this is not true, AMD is just affected a bit more than Intel).
And even if you choose a trash H410/H510 motherboard, you'd be getting about 60% of the performance of a Ryzen 5 5600X for about 60% of the overall platform price. It's not _better_ value, and it would be significantly slower, but it's not necessarily bad either.
@@tars3249 1650 super. Just something to get her by until hopefully better things become reasonable.
@@ZaelleLexil The best B560 under 140 USD and 11400f would be my pick or 11600k if the price is within +$30 of it. Or if you can find a z490/10600k combo for cheaper then go with that. 16gb 3200-3600 cl16 ram would be sweet.
On amazon right now the MSI B560m Pro VDH is $110. If you went the smaller case route that would be a nice micro atx board option at that price.
I am building a system with 2 of these 2699v3 CPUs this week. Motherboard is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.
Build is done. Pictures on the discord.
I'll do a follow up with the turbo unlock.
It's October 2024, and I just bought one of these for $40 US. Gonna drop it into an Asus X99 Deluxe II board in place of a 6850K. I have no real interest in overclocking it or even daily driving it. It'll just be a cool machine to have.
Nice video. I love the x99 platform.
Was just able to score a 2696v3 for $130, one of the best buys Ive ever gotten, only behind my $75 1060 3gb back in 2017
Instant thumbs up for the intro lolol
This is better than Netflix series. Thanks Brian
I imagine whoever wants to game on this thing disabling HT is also good idea, maybe could bring a little bit of clockspeed up as well. Even some editing programs who has difficulties utilizing more than 16thrteads should benefit from it.
You're very right, I tried that with the 2696v3, even more highly clocked version of this one and it performed better for gaming with 8 cores active and HT disabled
For gaming, I would disable hyperthreading and spectre/meltdown protection too.
@@dieantischeisse disabling HT on 8 core can be a good and bad idea, it should depend on the game, these days games can easily saturate 8 cpu threads, and since 2696v3 doesnt have that amazing single core speed compared to modern standards i think leaving HT should be preferred way of using it, but again it depends on game and probably your gpu as well :)
@@h1tzzYT Not really. You have to look at the i7-9700K, fairly recent CPU. 8c/8t, still pretty good in games. 4c/8t on the other hand is not . High core counts Xeons like this don't do well in gaming due to high L3 cache latency and memory latency . Longer ring bus is not helping neither.
@@fleurdewin7958 well 9700k will have significantly higher ipc and clockspeed than these xeons so its not really fair comparing to it as it will manage to just scrape by with its good single core speed. 9700k gets maxed out in quite a few games, provided you have strong enough gpu to pull those frames. try running games like cyberpunk, a total war troy, shadow of the tomb raider and other cpu demanding games on that modified 8c/8t xeon you will see that without HT it should struggle with framrate consistency.
Thanks for part 2!
18 cores 16threads... What a hero
I would have to say also refer to JaysTwoCents warning about bricking Asus MB just by using the flashback utility as well.
undervolt the cache on haswell
it made a difference on a laptop that got hot and power throttled
will make a shit load more difference with the dual ring setup on those xeons
Hell yeah Myconst!
that intro put a big smile on my face lol, not sure if its cause im drunk or if it was genuinely funny
Now thats alot of cores and threads that thing is a power house well done.
Labor Intensive Video. Thank's for putting in all the (not insignificant) Legwork.
I've noticed the 2000's era movie posters on the back walls. What are your top 5 movies? I might have something for you!!!
Great build, thinking of making a similar machine as the multi core/thread is becoming essential these days. Can you compare it to modern CPU choices like the 10900k please
Pretty sure TDP limit on the E5-2699v3 is the same as the E5-2696v3 @ 145W. The 2696v3 has a slightly higher turbo-boost (3.8Ghz vs 3.6Ghz) and is compatible with either DDR3 or DDR4; the 2699v3 only works with DDR4.
2696v3 was released about 1 year after the 2699v3.
"The 16 thread.. " tech yes man sinks into the floor. I love when tubers post mistakes.
Just some info, there are 2 different models "ASUS X99-A" and a later revision "ASUS X99-A II" One difference compared to Asus’ original X99-A is that the X99-A II board is fitted with two CPU power connectors: one eight-pin EPS12V and one four-pin ATX12V. This may make a huge difference with power limits and how far these xeons can be pushed on this setup.
Good day.... I currently have a HP Z420 with a Xeon E5-2687w v2 / factory water cooler / xt 5700t / 32g ddr 3. / ssd. I only play Star Citizen and World of Warcraft and like to edit family / motorcycle riding taken videos on occasion. Star Citizen is a mess in development for 10 years now lol and currently takes advantage of multi cores. I am aiming for either a HP Z440 with a E5-2699p v4 or going all in with a HP 840 with dual E5-2699p v4's....... The upgrade from ddr3 to ddr4 and cpu upgrade should suit me nicely.
I just recently got 3 of these for £38 each, got a single and dual build coming, didn’t even know this about the boost!
Great series mate! Did you do any testing on CAD, blender or zbrush etc.?
Just finished the 2nd half of the video today, and I gotta say.. TDP locked overclocking is fun. I had to do the same on my 1050 Ti that has no power connectors. I got a huge performance uplift in Cyberpunk by undervolting it :D over 30% I believe, it's now performing better than the median 1050 Ti that is not power limited. Made a big difference in GTA V too.
i was wondering why its getting harder and harder to find greatly priced xeons lately. its you!!!
Seems like I was wrong about the cooler. Didn't take into account the CPU watt limit. Awesome results.
sall good brother.
Definitely an awesome build. I've been playing with an x79 board and a gtx1080. I'm planning on the 1660v2 and hopefully 2133 or 2400 ddr3. But I would love to try x99 and up.
Amazing sir I take my hat off to thee 🙏🏼
You might already be aware of this, but your outro music completely drowned out your final comments. :( I'm looking to upgrade from an i7-8700K to something I can put more RAM into (I'm a heavy VMware Workstation user) and you've given me a potential low-cost solution to that problem. Thanks!
I have a Supermicro 1U server with 128GB RAM and two E5-2697V3 cpus for a total of 28cores. Not a gaming machine - no graphics card, but I'm using this for high-performance computing for transistor modeling and circuit design which contains optimization steps that are very compute-intensive. I'd love to see if I can boost the clock rates and performance.
And I plan to couple two servers together for an HPC cluster. You don't need to be a gamer to enjoy this cheap power!
Hi, do you still have a copy of the Asus BIOS that Kamaras made as his Google Drive-hosted version no longer exists? I'd like to unlock the Xeon E-2699 on an Asus X99-A II motherboard but I am not confident with some of the tools from Myconst's tutorial. Thanks, Gary
Bryan,
I have the same motherboard and was wondering if you had a link to the unlocked bios for the Asus 99-A. The google link in the forum post in your video no longer hosts that file. Thanks
always great stuff for value for money. if you was closer I would buy that from you at any time :)
what about the aliexpress x99 motherboard, any custom bios will allow similar results in terms of overclocking?
I would go, and I did, with the 6950x. It's 10 cores and 20 threads with much faster base clock and easily overclockable to 4. 5 GHz. The price is just a bit higher but it's worth it. Your yields are going to be much higher. It Is also built on the 14 NM process instead of the 22nm process of the 2699 V3.
You got it to 4.5GHz? On Air or liquid?
Yo Tech Yes City, I need an X99 mobo and a CPU. What do you recommend these days? Looking to build something around $500 not including case, Gpu or Nvme/Ssd. Also 1080ti or something else? I plan to build in 2 months.
When considering value, the utility with Win11 should be a factor. Looks like it is ewaste or linux after windows 10 end of support. Annoying the way Win 11 isn't supporting older perfectly useful hardware.
Yeah man....i have been running a overclocked 6 core 5930k on a high end Asrock X99 board since 2015. The only reason i have not hopped on these Xeons is windows 11! It is such a shame what Microsoft has done with windows 11.
is there no tpm chip socket in the board?
@@yharonthedragon there's only one X99 board woth TPM2.0
@@wa2368 linux is here for you.
Will do some more research on 11 when it comes closer to release. Microsoft have been flip flopping really hard on this one.
Hey brian, I have a Intel Xeon E3-1246 V3 which has a base clock of 3.5GHz and turbo up to 3.9 GHz. Now my problem is, all core turbo is only 3.7GHz do you have some any idea to turbo unlock this processor to run at its maximum turbo speed on all cores? Motherboard I’m using is Asus Z87-K LGA 1150
Turbo boost unlock only work for e5-2600/4600 v3 series.
I still have a 12 Core model of one of these CPUs sitting in a PC next to me, I really gotta get around to doing a max turbo boost unlock on it and doing something with it.
Loving the content as always Bry Man! I built a system with a similar CPU and x99 board a little while ago - lot of fun to tinker with. One video I'd love to see is a ram tuning guide. I know little about it man, so any help would be greatly appreciated. All the best and say hi to P Man for me.
Hey Brian! Thank you for the detailed tune walkthrough! Would you like to make the same for that HuananZhi X99-TF too, if possible?
love it keep it up
Good video! but that would have been fun to see the this processor with the RTX3080 too... just to see the difference between the two processors result.
Great job👍
Hair looking sharp bro :) Thats an impressive budget rig wow. I've watched all your old videos on Xeon's its what got me in to them! I have an E5 2678 v3 based system myself on an msi motherboard. Unlocked across all cores, I dont use it much though sadly. Awesome video though what a lil budget beast.
Yeah such a nice combo, I am thinking about making this the main workstation, just recently changed the other rig though lol.
The 2699 v3 is only about $100 US now on AE.
Those xeons can do a lot ;)
I personally use E5 2667v2 with RTX3070 for 4K Gaming!!! Cpu is rarely over 50% load, mostly RTX 3070 prevents me from maxed out gaming.
Had to reinstall Win10Pro after almost 3 years (was acting wonky) so I decided to upgrade HW in parallel, from E5-1680v2 (OC 4.3GHz) w/ASUS P9X79Pro +32 GGB DDR3 1600 desktop ram to: E5-2678V3 (turbo-unlocked/all-core/3.3Ghz) + HuananZhi X99TF + 32GB 1866 Mushkin Redline desktop ram. 12 Cores/ 24 threads. Runs very cool on air even when benchmarked/stressed.
Turbounlock performed using MiyConst youtuber's Mi899 software (free TU tool with built in scripts and flash ready / compatible bios library). A few clicks and the TU was done perfectly.
Excellent for productivity and no issues gaming 1080p on ultra or even 1440p with the right GPU. Currently paired to GTX1080Ti, though I've also tried our RTX2080 Super with good results, too.
@@jb678901 Thats xeon bro :D Haha, mee to reinstalled windows on my xeon and rtx and thats it :D
But i need upgrade to 64 or myb 128 ecc ddr3 1866 if i not find 2133.
Assetto Corsa, Content Manager is very hungry for RAM, so even the current 24GB is not enough. I will skip 32 because I can already see that there won't be enough.
Over 300gb of mods
@@balkan-e-sports-racing Nice thing about lots of REEC DDR3 with 4 channel XEON goodness...it's affordable!
still rockin my 1080Ti.........anyway Bryan where did you get that cyberpunk stripe light on your wall????......it looks killer.
Thx for the guide... i will try to boost my system with this guide.... because i just got mine like last week because i wanted to originally make a decent NAS server that does other things on the side...
Yea, you're right about those memory... i mean i found some cheap DDR4 RDIMM 16GB single sticks used and these used E5-2670v3 and a X99-F8 board from china are really cheap so i built a home server.....
And this thing could game if i put a GPU in it..... and for spending around $510 USD on this dead end platform, it has better value than any of the new stuff and is no slouch at being a good system... and they can be a virtualizing monster for cheap and act as a good nas / server as well as a Pi-hole and DNS server... i only got my r7 1700 because i wanted the extra cores back in the day.... now that i have this system i am thinking of just retiring my r7 1700 system... those extra 4 cores are amazing even if its slower because i can run extra stuff in the background with truly minimal impact as compared to my current main set up...
what exact motherboard did you use. will you link the custom bios ? this way we can flash the the board without installing windows.
even tho it's been a year, the price in here is actually 100$ cheaper and still amazed by the performance this cpu gives.
Still running 1080ti W/ 5950x here - given how long it took just to get the 5950x, I didn't bother upgrading my GPU + aside from maybe DLSS, it's not like ray tracing on its own is enticing enough to upgrade (I run RTX voice on my 1080ti already too)
awesome Vid. hey could you also compare to standard x99 of the day like 5960x and 6950x becuase these are also at similar price to 2699 v3's
Hi, ive recently purchased a hp z640 and put a e5 2699 v3 in and wanted to do the turbo boost. I tried to follow instructions from a previous vid of yours but my bios is locked and the hp menu does not offer as many options to change or i havnt explored it enough to find cpu and turbo settings.
I have an E5-2678 V3, and I need to build my nephew a gaming machine. Maybe I'll give the Xeon another look.
I will admit, that recently (here in Poland) prices for Zen1 Threadripper 1900/1920 is dirt cheap. A used x399 though isn't yet, but paritin the two together brings a very nice "recent" gen tech. And being unlocked gives more flexibility on tweaking. And I do expect with Windows 11 not supproting it. Zen1 TR's are goign to show up more on the resale.
@Tech YES City
I think the TDP-limit is set a little differently. The important setting in the UEFI is "CPU current cability" 140%. This effectively rises the TDP to 140%. The rest of the turbo-parameters will be ignored on a Xeon, except the BCLK. For testing leave the BCLK to 100MHz, else the CPU power will likely display around 1W. Test the CPU with CPU-Z, and do a stress test with AVX2 (all threads-2, else CPU-Z can hang).
I've a MSI-Board and a 2698V3, but it should be very similar.
The results on my system on default settings are:
AVX2, 154W (first 40 seconds), 3,0 GHz.
AVX2, 135W (after 40s), 2,8 GHz
UEFI-setting "CPU Current Protection = 140%" (CPU current cability)
AVX2, 116W x 140% = 162W (infinited time), 3,0 GHz.
The AVX2-perfomance can be increased, if the CPU-microcode is 0x1F or 0x27 instead of 0x43 by default (you can check it by Aida64/CPUID).
AVX2, 130W x 140% = 182W (infinited time), 3,2 GHz.
The AVX2-perfomace can be increased even more, if the microcode.dat is deleted completly (0x0), but the problem is, the CPU goes randomly to 1,2 GHz. But for testing:
AVX2, 140W x 140% = 196W (first 40 seconds), 3,4 GHz.
AVX2, 135W x 140% = 189W (after 40 seconds), 3,3 GHz.
If "CPU Current Protection" is set to 150%, it will stay on 3,4 GHz all time.
I'd love to see what a pair of 2696 V3's would do if you unlock the turbo on them like this, if all goes well I'm about to pick up a Z10PE-D8 WS with an 8x4 kit of ram (will be upgraded soon as possible) and a pair of E5 2640 V3's, I'm planning on doing the turbo unlock on this one too, and it seems that it's much simpler with asus boards too so that's a nice bonus
@Brian Tech Yes City : I was wondering if you could maybe revisit this 2699 v3 CPU but on a x99 Jingsha or Machinist based motherboard? Would the tuning options be similar? Between your channel, myconst and philscomputerlab, got me interested in the Xeons. I built my first used Xeon e5-2650 v2 with 16gb ddr3-1333 ecc in quad channel (x79 Kllisre + the e5-2650 vw & ram came as a combo) + palit 8600GT+ 1GB for video back in Octob er of 2021. This my daily driver, non gaming rig. I currently run Linux Mint 19.3 on it
Would be nice to see the 2699v4 in gaming seeing that it's single core performance is way better
I bought the 2698v3 (16-core) for $60. My mainboard (dell) does not seem to allow unlocking but nonetheless very happy about the perf/price ratio. Now I just need to find something to do with it.
Nice video. Did you use a particular make/model of power supply in order to be a little more accurate on power testing. One with the best rating as possible so there is little waste power being measured
I have an ASUS X99 board, and it would have been nice if you linked the forum post that was discussing the work around.
the tuned system rocks. However, I thought you were going to cover using this e5-2699 v3 along with Jingsha and Machinist motherboads?
I'm curious about 79xx stacks up against 109xx. If it's just as good, I have a feeling X299 could be the next X99. Any plans for a video like that?
Will this work with a non-Asus motherboard? I could get either a machinist x99 Bd4 or x99 Bd4