Weather Wreaks Havoc In Barcelona | Vuelta A España 2023 Highlights - Stage 2
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Vuelta a España 2023 stage 2 highlights. A 181.8km hilly stage from Mataró to Barcelona. The climb of Montjuïc (900m at 9.4%) peaks with just 3.6km remaining and features bonus seconds at the top.
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Andreas dedicated his win for his dead mom and for Tijl De Decker nice gesture. Congrats Andreas well deserved!
Riders cooperating to neutralise a race is rare and a sign that there is no trust in the organisers which is no surprise given yesterdays appalling TTT which started at dusk and in light rain but soon became driving rain in the dark with unlit roads.
Don't they neutralise racing at Giro constantly? Feels that they have slow start of stages many times per Giro.
2 for 2 so far 👎
Ànyone that can develop a bike tire that keeps a good grip on wet surfaces is going to make a lot of money. Real rain tires.
@@davidmichael9342It already exists. However, it is classified as an endurance tire, not a racing tire. because of high rolling resistance. So it is not used in the race.
What are you even talking about? The riders always decide how fast to ride. Stop acting like the riders aren’t the ones who make the decisions on how fast to ride
At least G got his crash in early, always a sign he's on good form.
😂
Sarcasm! 😉
Hope to see more from Andreas Kron in this Vuelta👍
What's up with the no mention (in the english version) of the nails scattered all over the course....In the Spanish version (at 2.13) one is picked up by a moto bike reporter and shown to the camera.
Smart decision by the teams to back things off. Still a long way to go. Hope the weather clears up so riders can actually push themselves.
Great coverage considering bad weather, yea totally agree pushing finish line back, not worth pushing in such bad conditions
What a mess so far…
Seems like the organisers just do whatever they want, then leave it to the riders to actually decide how it is going to work…..
Yet another Great Dane 😀
Last night was unquestionably hazardous, poor light and a high speed event on a technical course but are world tour teams saying they don't do rain anymore? PS I was roadside for a monsoon rainy Sunday stage in Barcelona in 1999 where the riders shut down the racing in protest. History repeats itself.
Was that the wrong picture for Evenepoel at 1:14?
water is wet, the sky is blue, gerraint thomas and primoz roglic hits the deck
Oh heck, it's a queue.
Tough weather conditions - thats for sure! Impressive run.
Things were better today because the stage was done in daylight , and the rain didn't seem to be as strong as in stage one. Even in other tours there is wetness some days. Let's look forward to some good racing ahead !!! Congrats to Kron and Piccollo so far !!! Can Roglic and Vingegaard make a return to the top ? Great highlights and reporting - there's nothing better than GCN Racing 👍
Great to see a Lotto rider win
This is by far the most excited I've ever been for the Vuelta. I really hope it starts living up to the hype sooner rather than later.
It aint a grand tour without roglic hitting the deck
Cycling..the most exciting adventure of life fans, never stop believe in, how l wish I would be there like a true supporter, just do not ask Ok? Let's enjoy the clue moments, let's wish all riders good luck, be careful stay safe do not crash plizzzzzz, do not get hurt Ok?❤
super kørt, Kron!!!!
Who needs a race directuer when you have Jonas in the peloton
What's with the commentator this season? Feels like he's about to fall asleep half of the time....
Sounds like it might be McCrossan, the English Howard Cosell. Cosell was the most famous and possibly most mind numbingly monotone sports commentator of the 1960s and 1970s.
Omfg... the Lycra boys crying again about some rain😭🙄🤣 #pbags
finish looked ok to me!
Jumbo acting like they are god forcing everyone to wait for Roglic to be back. Riders should have kept pushing. This is cycling and a crash is part of it. Go to your sofa then. Can you imagine this in Paris-roubaix or any other northern classic course ? Wape up and make things difficult for jumbo guys
I don't know if you watched the thing but G and Roglič weren't that far behind. TJV and Remco were mainly slowing things down because of the numerous roundabouts that could've caused more crashes.
bring back that signature fonk music hehe
In GP and Moto GP you take a chance on grippier but slower tyres, why not in cycling. Just riding hard and falling then blaming the conditions isn't a good way to ride surely
Too little surface to put extra lines, it wont work. Lines on tires are for making the water flow outwards, on a bike tire it just isnt useful cuz there is no water that can make the bike aquaplane, if you went into a deep water zone you will slide even with “water” tires. They are just too slim for a different tire to be useful
Not enough time, energy, or money to carry and change out spare rain bikes
@@notreally2406 its not that, its just that it would be useless, bike tires have so little surface area that the reason why wet formula 1 tires and motogp tires are like that wouldnt be useful
@@kivori3438it’s absolutely possible to make better wet tires, grooves are not the only feature that matters, also the rubber makes a difference.
Cycling is full of this kind of “conventional wisdom” that turns out to be BS. Just look how long it took teams to accept that rock-hard 21mm are maybe not the fastest (because conventional wisdom states less comfort=more speed). It will be the same with wet tires. Someone will try it out eventually.
@@mx2000 never said that, i said that with current tire format you would need an improvment on the type of rubber and that would be worth even in dry condition so the difference between dry and wet tires wouldnt matter even in that case with these low surface area tires, its a matter of rubber grip on asphalt and water draining and with that small surface area the difference would be negligible. You would need an improvment on tire rubber as a whole for that to work and even then it wouldnt be worth to have 2 types of tires. For it to be worth tires would need to be larger
The riders will be wanting the pave in Paris- Roubaix covered with tarmac next!🤷🏻♂️
Congrats to the riders for making their voice heard. Their safety is crucial.
Piccolo is gonna win la vuelta
Yes, if all other riders crash
La vielta is always a race with so many crashes and broken bones for the cyclist, last is like this also, next year will also be like, yeah, nothings new though
Andy Kraaaaaawn? Dude maybe atleast try lol.
nice music changes!!! cause who cares about the music track???
I find the narrator hard to follow. I am a native English speaker, but the sentences are too long, rambling, and littered with pauses in odd places that make it too easy to lose the thread. I’m still not sure from watching this whether the stage was actually shortened by 8km or not.
i don't care for the bodily safety of the riders whatsoever
I just want to see them going all out at all times on the television screen
there are no real men anymore
/sarcasm
ain't that it? when are those athlete's finally gonna realize that it is not their job to complain but to perform for the viewers' entertainment?
such selfishness!
/sarcasm
Miners wear lights on their helmets, why can't these woossies? /s
And why don't they just learn to bonny hop the roundabouts at 50 km/h 30 mph, instead of going around? /s
GCN's charm was having ex-cyclists commenting on stuff. Having professional commentators is boring, it can be gotten anywhere.
Yet here you are, whinging about free stuff.
Why are they wearing masks?
And the Olympic 100 meters is only 80 meter because its raining....i thought these guys were professionals
you will not die at the Olympic 100 m
@@gkos2566 when do they shorten motogp....or grand prix..ski jumping..ect ect
@@lennycottingham are you idiot? Grand prix several times, ski same
the rain in spain falls mainly on the bike race !?
Like during the mornings when I’m supposed to go out on a ride !
'ey, Professor 'iggins..!
Stage 3 up to Andorra is going to be interesting as well in terms of the weather forecast
yeah,
guys getting paid to grow food or make trains is real. getting paid to ride a bike is ,albeit dangerous, a freaking great job that is unreal. get it?
shut up and ride . . .
100%
I thought they were going to ride at night again.
Kirby up to his usual - _Giving away the DSM outcome with 46.8km to go..._
Go Kron, hope it won’t be the last Danish 🇩🇰 win in this Vuelta 😊
Unfortunately these were strange circumstances which probably won't happen again and I don't see him beating the favourites... Maybe in a breakaway but even then I feel like there are better contenders
@@maximefornasari1634 well i was hoping for Jonas winning one also 😉
Who is the Bora rider in the portrait they put up for Remco? 1:12
Ide Schelling I think. Dutch rider
Kämna?
@@GonzoJohnny I was trolling the mistake. Nice ID though. You'd think they'd at least make the mistake with someone else in the race.
So we the TDF that made all riders cycle in scorching heat, starting each stage mid day, then moving to the vuelta with a TTT in a pouring evening .
One has zero to do with the other
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
It’s an outdoor sport. Weather is part of the challenge.
It had been bone dry in Barcelona for more than 2 months.
I think it was just some bad luck that it rained that day.
And if it hadn’t rained, the riders starting during the night would have been glad they did because the sun wouldn’t have added some extra heat.
@@gorknotmork3087 …… since when ; in modern history has racing at night on this professional level been done or even thought it was an intelligent idea ???
Andy Kron... love that name!
Shame the poor riders....
La vielta is always a race with so many crashes and broken bones for the cyclist, last is like this also, next year will also be like, yeah, nothings new though
1:11 that is NOT Evenepoel 🤔
Wrong picture
@@Bryan__X__ yesterday they also showed results of a previous TTT where JV won 😂😂
It is Ide Schelling
@@jirichladek3380 I know
Or is he?
"Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head": ua-cam.com/video/_VyA2f6hGW4/v-deo.html
These Danes 🇩🇰 must be stopped one way or another 😂
What a shambolic Vuelta, cmon organizers. Que verguenza.
mountain top finish at stage 3... kids nowadays...
Tomorrow is another day..
What is it that these youngsters can no longer ride in the rain?
It’s that they need to crawl through every turn with it being slippery.
You missed the FLOODING over one of the last roads?
Back in the days there were hardly any roundabouts. These are designed to slow you down to 30 km/h, 20 mph with a car. That's why a large peloton has difficulty to pass them. 1:48 Especially in the rain, when the road is wet 2:01 in the final stretch of the race, when speeds are up, and when the roads are littered (after being flooded 3:26 ). We don´t need half a dozen of riders more in hospital with broken collar bones or pelvisses.
If only bikes had brakes so they could skillfully navigate the roundabouts.
@@Drew_Snydermann If you brake at 50 km/h 30 mph in the peloton on a roundabout, you get a bunch crash and take out the group behind you. The peloton adapts to speed and curves by slimming down to only one or two riders next to each other, so they can take the ideal line. A slow peloton is wider.
Incidentally a Brit time-triallist said some years ago "I always seem to do better in rain, perhaps it releases more oxygen into the air"
Who is that quote from?
I'm not sure, it might have been Alf Engers or another big name TT-ist.
La vielta is always a race with so many crashes and broken bones for the cyclist, last is like this also, next year will also be like, yeah, nothings new though
riders from different teams get along well, like Roglic and Mas. It was a tough sport. But no agreement to exclude cheaters, why in your opinion?
What do you mean?
roglic fell ,didnt you watch the video haha
"But no agreement to exclude cheaters" - I just don't get that line.
@@florinho1994 roglic is a cheater like vindeguard
Explain how they are cheaters what evidence do you have
looks like the UEA emirates rider intentionally cross to crash roglic? tim not sure if he skids or not? or im just over thinking. what a shame to do this tactics.
In F1 we've seen several deliberate crashes with only car damage, but a bicycle rider would risk harming themselves, which doesn´t make sense. Would you sign up for scrapes, bruses, breaking bones, to take out another rider? Which means you're out of the race, you forfeit all bonuses, and end the season? Here 1:48 (you can use , . to go ) it looks like the UEA rider slips on the white line. That's a common thing in rainy conditions. In the peloton such a slide about always takes out a few riders.
Can Jonas or Primoz still win this? How much are they down on Remco after the ttt? They’ll get it back in mountains or will he keep up?
Sure they can, and probably will.
26 seconds between Remco and Jonas and Primoz.
@@peha524 I think the TTT was ridiculous and that they should’ve gave everyone the same time.
No, there are only 19 stages left, 8 of them with a mountaintop finish.
Surely with that little to go, 26 seconds is absolutely insurmountable!
@@andrasszabo1570 lol I know man. I just hope Remco falls apart in the steepest mountains. Jonas is a much better climber, Primoz too.
Why can't pro cycling simply mandate big rain tires for these days, put 'em all on safer, slower tires and take away some of these slides and skids and, dare I say, poor bike handling. Not impressed when stars like Jonas play 'slow down, guys' while some lesser-known riders are actually racing their bikes in a professional bike race. If you wanna go slow, as JV did yesterday, I respect that, it was wise of them to do that. But don't cry the blues about riders who are comfortable in the rain, perhaps they have trained for it and this is the big stage for them to show their chops. And I still don't understand why there is no mandated body armor for these riders and riders know, if they wanted it or insisted upon it, they would have high-quality gear provided by top-notch sponsors. It'd be great, suit 'em up like ice hockey stars so they can take a hit, if only in the rain for starters. And somehow those hockey players are nimble as. So I suppose I am wearying of rider complaints about the rain. It rains in Europe all the time, not the organizers fault. And wheels touches and subsequent flippage, my goodness, figure it out with some sort of bump guards or fenders or something. Zero need for riders to be subjected to those sorts of crashes from fatigue or brakes or whatever. And I get that it happens, happened to me once as a bike messenger in DC, weary as the afternoon was in full rush-hour tilt and drifted into the side of a delivery truck and thankfully recovered after a few revs of my left pedal within the right=rear wheel well.
Why are you complaining here? 😂 Body armor? Dude.. these guys have trained and are ready to risk it all to win. Being comfortable and less risky won't get you the win, not in the race and in real life.
My god really ??? I’ve been involved in cycling for 40 years and this is ridiculous. Racing at dusk into the night is stupid rain on not ….. but comparing cycling with hockey ???
When I raced helmets were optional and yet you want full body armor ???….. WTF go watch golf for Christ sake. I’m all for safety but living in a plastic bubble is horseshit
….. you obviously extremely inexperienced in the world of cycling- bike messenger???
Sounds like piss poor job selection
@@thedefaultuser Thanks for your reply and I think we agree more than disagree and, for the record, my complaints are less that than concerns, I truly hate crashes and injuries and, tragically, deaths of riders and racers and I simply think more can be done to protect them without taking away from the cultural cool of the sport. And helmets are a good example, the wind-in-the-hair look was cool yet who could imagine racing without a helmet now? And collarbones are always cracking and taking big-money riders out of action and why, if a shoulder/chest protector could be fit under the jersey and perhaps with a bit of a 'chest fairing' to help with body aerodynamics. And why no hip/pelvic protection, same deal as shoulders, always taking a hit. But my main point in my initial post was rain tires for rainy days such as today and with gravel bikes at the ready, organizers could say, okay, 40 mil tires today, get out the gravel bikes. And it'd still be a great race. But yes, my comment about Jonas was a complaint. Very self-serving of a star of his caliber to want everyone to slow down so his teammate can get back up to the bunch. And I am a fan, I want Primoz to win this grand tour, but not with any heavy-handedness or anything. That's why they have teams and Jonas could drop back himself, c'mon now, we all know that. 😀
These riders will soon moan the cobbles out of Paris Roubaix. Get on with it. You chose an outdoor sport. It rains. Ride slower. Crashes happen especially if people are trying to win. Which is the whole point.
It’s not that simple, if you ride slower then you don’t work as hard and don’t generate enough heat, pretty quickly become cold when your core temp drops and then ironically you’re more at risk of crashing because of the effects of the cold.
@@davidgeorge9233then wear a jacket?
If all of that is too hard, maybe they should go back to zwift races?
At what point is Roglic going to invest some time in learning to ride a bike? Seriously, this guy has below amateur level bike handling skills. Why does JV feel entitled to neutralize the race and demand everyone else wait for Roglic? At what point should he not suffer his own consequences if he doesn't want to invest in bike handling?
He didn't crash himself...A UAE rider went down first directly in front of him. Some crashes are just poor luck and hard to avoid.
When it’s rainy and below 25 degrees Celsius, you just know that Vingegaard will demand changes to the stage.
Really? Ever experienced ordinary weather conditions in Denmark? Any windy day above 15°C without rain is considered a decent day ...
Guess he's been riding thousands of km in harsh conditions.
@@OmmerSyssel That was before he became a star.
You making up stories.@@jatojo
Second day and the weather is hurting these athletes! Nothing worse fot these guys than to hit the deck so many times in one stage! Wishing quick recover!
they can always slow down or put tires with treads on them.... pancies
This is why, to me, ultra-racing will always be a much greater achievement than whatever these guys are doing.
In ultras, you race day and night, through cold, rain, scorching sun, on imperfect roads.
In professional road racing, two drops of rain fall and teams are already complaining that the stage isn’t neutralized.
If the riders truly wanted to make a STAND : they should have just sat up and ALL came to the finish together
The ones that matter, did.
@@DrewsOnFirst …… this where the peloton needs a HINAULT to stand up and take charge
These organizers are ridiculous
JV telling everyone to slow down... snore. Has there ever been a less likable team? Hope Remco destroys them.
Remco Evenepoel and Geraint Thomas also wanted them to slow down so it has nothing to do with Jumbo Visma.
Remco will destroy them 👍
Team Sky was even worse
But yeah stuff like this shows that cycling is sports entertainment
Good little remco does not like rain either. C'mon m8
@@RC-tf2ft Remco is my sacred cow. He is above criticism.
Well done by the Riders.
Better to be safe than sorry. It's only Stage 2.
M 🦘🏏😎
Great commentary, by Kelly on eurosport 😊
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