This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
I have a Camplux BW422 16L very similar, runs off batteries, (can shower in a power cut) i have water on full. gas at half way, use it everyday, a 19kg propane bottle lasts approx 3 months, it provides the best shower i have used in my 68 years!
Brilliant! I've lived off-grid in my barn loft for years, and have gotten sick of cold dunks in my beck to scrub up. I'd been thinking about putting a shower in the end of my polytunnel. You've nailed it for me. Thankyou!
I love the way that your cat sat so neatly and was so well behaved and listened so attentively and took notes during the first scene. Can I ask the cat a question?
Hello Mark,man I really want to thank you, we were using the c batteries befor which were the wrong ones,in the instructions there is no mention what battery to use,and another big mistake is that I thought they did not send a rubber washer so I stuck in one but then there was already a rubber washer but it was in the wrong place, so when I stuck my wassher on the inlet had 2 washers,so when you showed the right way to put on the rubber washer every thing worked perfectly..I was just about to send back the whole heater to the seller,when I said I should look on you tube. so thanks again.
Nice unit I know when we used to work on some older continuous flow water heaters you had to adjust the flow rate to get the correct temp. Pressure and flow are different things i would put in an adjustable flow restrictor to adjust the temp if it was a real issue. So to get more heat the water needs to slow down through the heater and for less heat speed the flow through the heater
im thinking, this is perfect for showering off grid, or in weekend houses, etc. where you might have water but heating it is a bugger. This is nice and convenient. In fact, i'd instal it in my apartment if there was need for it. Also, i love the fact that it requires no electricity, meaning the power shortage will not affect it. Ad a propane bottle in the corner and you're set. If i needed to install heating and warm water somewhere on the budget, this thing and wall-mounted heaters are what i'd go for, not a big heater/boiler.
Hi... I carry water for showering in a large plastic icebox in my van. If you allow the water to circulate back into the icebox after going through the system for 5 mins. the water warms, which then ultimately raises the shower temperature.
@@MrMeltedwellies did it help??? another thing, how you control the water temp in a shower? for example if you have separate shower room in a van? first its too cold and gets hotter and hotter and then its too hot?
Great video 👏👏👏👏 love these showers! That shower head is very nice 👍 , love the long shower hose too! Pretty annoying having to deal with a short hose.
Man this is so helpful! Want to be off grid in a few years and this was one thing I had wanted to do. Have the Camp Chef version in my Amazon cart and will be using this to begin with while camping.
Great job I’ve had mine for about 2 years and use it every day. Upgrading the shower head is a must. As I understand it the right nozzle is for pressure not temperature. You need to turn the right.nozzle anit clockwise to reduce pressure to increase the temperature. Counterintuitive I guess. The left gas nozzle should then be kept about half way. Batteries run out so I connect my parallel connected pack of 6x 18650 batteries through the spade connectors and keep the voltage about 3.6v. They are rechargeable and last forever. Easy hack and makes sense. As the unit doesn’t ignite properly below 3volts.
@@ismaeltolentino4500 There is no storage, the water goes through it to heat as long as it's on. Super cheap to run hot water as it only uses gas when the water is flowing.
Just created my own system after seeing yours gave me the initiative. I bought a similar boiler but attached one othose cheap chinese 12v motors which works great, in fact it works too well. Trouble with these motors are they're predominantly high pressure 130+ psi which is far too high to initiate the auto back pressure shutoff should you choose to use one of those shower heads with a switch off button on it. The motor labours on and wouldnt shut off even when the output was blocked off, so who knows what trouble this might cause to the internals of the boiler? I sorted this problem by dismantling the pressure switch assembly on the pump end, and got hold of the short (very strong spring) that controls the switch off function and ground about a washers worth of metal off each end. Upon reassembly the system is far more responsive and stops instantly I turn off the shower head button cutting the flow. Thats how I did it anyway, so if helps anyone, good luck. On the off chance you grind too much off the spring, you can always add a washer in as a shim to increase cut-off pressure
Thanks for your reply! I have seen a lot of information on these heaters but never seen anybody describe the function when attached to a showerhead with an on/off valve on the handle. I plan on buying a heater like this but i do not know if it is suitable for my van since I only have around 25L of water. I must have the on/off switch to save water but I don't know if those heaters need a continous flow to work properly? Would you mind explaining a bit?
@:Sven-Tomas. Yes they need a continuous flow at around 16 psi or they cut out the burners for safety reasons, the shower head on/off button is the same as turning the tap on and off. You would use too much water just getting it hot at 6 litres per minute. I just tested mine on my tank and pressure pump system and it took 30 sec. to get warm and 1min for shower temp and if turned off will cool down quickly, .You would be better off getting shower temp water in a bucket/line and a 6 liter per minute 12v pump (eBay cheap) with handy cutoff and/or adjustable rate system. You can use the proper pressure 12v pumps and drop the inlet into a creek/tank/neighbours pool situation, these gas heaters are fantastic and are set up to use common garden variety hose setups (pun intended). One 8.5 kilo gas bottle lasts me 6 months at home at 5 showers a week and I get them filled for AUD $15. Instant on gas hot water system...Yeh Baby.
Winter/Summer dial cuts out 1/2 the burners on one side of the array on Summer setting.The water control on the right adjusts the rate of flow hence the temperature, to the left =hotter/slower. Get one with the LED temperature display, best idea ever and makes the adjustments much easier.
Have you had any issues with it only coming out super way too hot? My Thermomate was working great for a while now the water hardly comes out with any pressure and the temp goes up to 60degrees Celsius!!!
His setting in the video is correct. The right knob is a water flow restriction valve. Turning it to the right reduces the water flow so it spends more time in the heat exchanger and gets hotter. Turned to the left is the opposite - more water flowing with less temperature rise.
Thanks for the video. I've been using the Fastar for 3 years now trouble free. Bought a similar one but different brand from Germany and it is giving me problems after only 1 year.
I’m looking at installing one of these in our 1987 Mercedes motorhome I’m looking at using the onboard watertank as the pump is there already and it goes into the shower room as out water heater just won’t use on gas only electric drives me mad so I’m thinking of using the shower hose already in the motorhome and hooking that to the boiler for the water flow hope this works as hate cold shower
Hello Mark, 2 mistakes here. First, the control on the right is there to turn down the water flow. Second, and my main point is you MUST have a shower head with an on/off switch. If you have an endless supply of mains water, as in your video, it's not too much of a problem but you would still have to get out of the shower to turn it off. You had to walk to your garden tap, leaving the hot water to run out into the bowl. Off-grid you cannot afford to waste water and gas like that so need the water to turn off immediately you have finished your shower. Did the original head not have an on/off switch, all the heaters I have seen had. A well presented video but only useful if you live in a house and misleading if you live off-grid.
Hi Mark, correct me if im wrong but the water temperature seems to be set to the lowest? I see how its easily confused as the dial on the left is at maximum when turned all the way to the right but if you look at the line above the dial it goes from small to large
You might want to check the screen on the water inlet as well.. They can block up over time and the system actually runs better without it. Only down side is over time the shower head might block up, but back flushing the head should.fix that
I have one and put it inside my camper I used a 5inch by 11 floor register and a metal 4inch dryer metal for exhaust thru wall going to outside note ( EXHAUST GETS VERY VERY HOT DO NOT TOUCH),and I have a 16 foot trailer .
Great video Mark, I found it very useful as am thinking of using this type of system for hot water, window cleaning using a water fed pole. Some companies are charging thousands of pounds for hot water systems to be fitted to people’s vans!! Could I ask how safe are they? Many thanks Lee
Correct me if i'm wrong but the dial+image appears to indicate that the temperature goes in the opposite direction to the others so at the start of the video you actually set it to the coldest setting?
Few things; 1-Not enough water pressure device will shut. 60psi minimum or so. 2-Remove the screen in the water intake and be sure water is always clean and filtered. 3-I have seen people installing these into vans.Never go Full retard. These are outdoor units. 4-Wind may extinguish flames so keep it away from the wind. 5-When batteries are getting low it will not ignite or have weird symptoms. Use rechargeable good quality ones.They last around 30 to 60days depending on usage and cold weather.
@@x3Cay They dont need that much pressure at all. 35pis 12v pump is more than enough. It's the flow of water that matters, in L/min or equivilent. Im sure you figured that out by now, but just in case someone else comes across these comments with the same questions.
If you reduce our water flow on thé unit,you Will reduce thé water pressure and you watertemperatuur Will rise.you can see it on the pictogram on our Heater
Thank you for the great review. Very informative. This is perfect! I'm looking for a small propane water heater for a small 885 liter pool, just to take the chill out in a pinch. To hook it up inline with the filter pumps outlet and just let it circulate. It's one of these or a long stretch of copper tubing coiled up inside the grill lol. I'm assuming when you shut off the switch, the heater goes off but the water still flows?
Hello can I ask a question hopefully you can help iv purchased a mobile home I'm replacing the old style gas boiler which is a 6 litre one with a new on-demand one which is a 12 litre have I made a mistake ordering a 12 litre one 🤷🧐 Cheers
Thanks for the video. Very useful on the whole. One question... If it is scolding hot with the temperature on minimum... Can you turn it down using the other dial? I am considering purchasing but not if it's going to burn me!
Hi people , what I find is 6 l water pump is not enought.That hws was on of on of all time.So I change pump for 12 l and it is work nicely.My wife is hapy so it mus work.
Great idea, but..... I have had four of them. Not bad when they are working, but three have ruptured in cold weather and the fourth clicks but will not ignite. The price has increased a lot since I tried them so I waiting for someone to tell me which are the better brands before I try again. There can be substantial differences in price, but they all appear to be very similar in manufacture
Ive had one of these and the problem of providing the inlet with 50lbs of water pressure out on a campsite really sucks. You have to go out and buy a water pump that is small enough to cart around but wont burn up if no water is running through it. My water pump is never ran more than a second or two without water running through it. Why dont they address this problem. In your video you just hooked up to your house, which probably has 45 - 50 lbs, unfamiliar with pascals, of water pressure. Make another video with that piece of shit hooked up to an actual 12V system with your recommendation for a water pump which is necessary. That portable shower is just junk if you don't properly set it up in the field.
Thanks mate I just set up my Thurmo mate 6L unit for the first time. And was very dissatisfied with its performance to say the least. It seems to cut out a lot. Hot one minute then cold. I’m guessing my flow is too high as I’m using a RV water pump with reasonable pressure. I’ll insert a valve to slow flow down and see how I go.
Hi thank you for the video, I bought this one 3.months ago and it's suddenly developed a fault, before contacting the supplier want to see if it's an easy fix, it seems not to be ignighting, there is plenty of gas and the batteries are fine, we Han hear it clicking as if it's trying to light but just it's like there isn't any gas getting to it, we have checked the gas pipe etc but to no avail.... Thanks x
Hi All Im thinking of connecting one of these to the caravan outside permenantly to by pass the existing water heater. I assume then i will need to go outside and switch on/off each time i want to use the shower or hot water to wash up As I dont want the heater running all day long using the gas. I think a 6L would be enough to push the water around the caravan
I tapped a bath half full of cold water, put the inlet hose into the water in the bath and pumped it up through the heater and back into the bath. Eventually there was pre-heated water going through the pump into the heater and back into the bath (Yes, yes, I know it's a dumb thing to do!!). End result was that the water going into the bath was too hot and triggered the thermal overheat switch. Won't do that again. Question is: is there a manual reset switch inside the cover? Help!
Thanks but you started off the video showing a pump and suggesting that was how you were going to demonstrate it. Then you plugged it into the main water. Will that pump work the shower boiler?
I just sold the one in my camper (because all the plumbing was leaking and I couldn't afford to fix it all) my mum bought the shower off me for her bathroom. Anyways, I just started it up for the first time and the flame inside seems massive! Is that normal? Or is propane too much for it, it says natural or LPG gas in the instructions but says methane gas on a sticker, I've never heard of using methane for these showers so we used propane... just worried the flame inside isn't right... it looks like a fire inside?
I used to have one of these instant water heaters in an apartment in Spain. The blue flame was huge, very powerful. It sounded like a fighter jet :D But oh boy it was fast and powerful. The flame should be blue, not yellow.
So after hooking up your water supply and turning on your gas the electric start ignites the gas? So am I assuming right that the battery system turns off and gas keeps the water hot during run times? How hot does that water get? 110 degrees?
So what the Hack? This is just a setup. i had to use a solar camping water shower head and throw the expensive one away that came with the unit. you can get and adjustable water flow shower head save fiddling with the mains pressure you be had if your using a cheap 12v pump without an accumulator. Im going to buy a cheaper second unit hook a t piece on the propane bottle and run two units together just to get some pressure and heat. a dribbling shower is not a shower at the end of the day. i have to admit out of all the cons these units save a lot of money on heating bills but at the sacrifice of a crappy shower. Given that im hooking two units together see how it goes pressure is a big deal when it comes to showers man not so much a hot bath which is out of the question with these units capped at 50 degrees time it hits the tub its cold again you need at least 75 degree to draw a hot bath by the time it cools down to 50 degree. remember body core temp is 37 degree you need at least an increment of 2 -10 degree above to have a "hot shower" Japanese know their baths they go up as far as 60 degree meat starts to fry at that temp the crazy bastards. but they have good health Low cancer rate. Cancer in the body cant survive at a certain temperature you dont want to fry your organs at that temp drinking ice water at that tem helps balance heat away from the body vitals and killing cancer throughout the rest of the body
Would it be possible to make a vent cowl to remove the fumes to outside and how would adding a branch leading to the sink tap affect the showers throughput?
Hey Mark. I got a new but used one of these water heaters a few days ago. Its a 18L-Version of it. Didnt use it until now. The former owner never used it himself. They bought it brandnew and didnt have the proper hose for it. So it was lying around for a few months. I bought it for 25€ but im kinda curious whether it will work at all. Mine doesnt show any lights or sth when i switch it on. Just silence. Does it need to have water pressure or gas pressure in order to switch itself on? Or does it show lights or sound or whatever immediately when you switch it on? In your video it seemed that it switched itself on and ignited the gas by itself as you made the water flow through it. I dont wanna buy a hose for another 15€ if its not working anyway you know? Would be happy to hear from you. Regards 😊
@@MrMeltedwellies Thanks for the reply. :) Is yours still working? Are you still using it to these days? Or was it just a temporary gadget? Ill try mine in a few days. Here in germany our typical pressure regulators for bottled gas lets out 50 mbar. The manual said, the water heater should get a maximum of 28 mbar. So i needed to order another pressure regulator + hose prior to using it. Which pressure did you use it with? Regards. :)
Had the same problem with my joolca the damn shower head was absolutely useless pumping too much water sent the water damn cold out the other end for a half warm shower by the time it was at the right shower temp 47 degree it was a dribble coming out you would not call a shower despite all the high price and fanfare how great it is on the brochure. a swiss couple in the mountains having hot fast showers all plastered all over the advertising. total scam these water units. im thinking of hooking two of them up or maybe three just to get the pressure and temp at something usable
do i need to buy a pump to push the water inside my house or does it come with a pump. if i need a pump what size would you recommend? i want to use this when our city water goes out and there is no pressure
Funktioniert denn das alles mit einer normalen Gasflasche mit 50mBar? Weil auf der Therme steht 28mBar druck. Und funktioniert es auch mit einer normalen 12V Wohnwagen Wasserpumpe? Könnte ich es im Staukasten im Wohnwagen verbauen oder ist das verboten? Wäre dir Dankbar für eine Antwort. Kann man es auch unter Dauergas lassen, und startet die Therme automatisch man man den Wasserhahn aufdreht, also die Wasserpumpe dann anläuft? Und was ist wenn die Gasflamme mal ausgeht wie im Video, strählt dann weiter Gas aus oder wird es automatisch unterbrochen, auch wenn das Wasser weiter läuft? Lg Sandro
This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
I have a Camplux BW422 16L very similar, runs off batteries, (can shower in a power cut) i have water on full. gas at half way, use it everyday, a 19kg propane bottle lasts approx 3 months, it provides the best shower i have used in my 68 years!
Brilliant! I've lived off-grid in my barn loft for years, and have gotten sick of cold dunks in my beck to scrub up. I'd been thinking about putting a shower in the end of my polytunnel. You've nailed it for me. Thankyou!
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I love the way that your cat sat so neatly and was so well behaved and listened so attentively and took notes during the first scene. Can I ask the cat a question?
Hello Mark,man I really want to thank you, we were using the c batteries befor which were the wrong ones,in the instructions there is no mention what battery to use,and another big mistake is that I thought they did not send a rubber washer so I stuck in one but then there was already a rubber washer but it was in the wrong place, so when I stuck my wassher on the inlet had 2 washers,so when you showed the right way to put on the rubber washer every thing worked perfectly..I was just about to send back the whole heater to the seller,when I said I should look on you tube. so thanks again.
Nice unit I know when we used to work on some older continuous flow water heaters you had to adjust the flow rate to get the correct temp. Pressure and flow are different things i would put in an adjustable flow restrictor to adjust the temp if it was a real issue. So to get more heat the water needs to slow down through the heater and for less heat speed the flow through the heater
im thinking, this is perfect for showering off grid, or in weekend houses, etc. where you might have water but heating it is a bugger. This is nice and convenient. In fact, i'd instal it in my apartment if there was need for it.
Also, i love the fact that it requires no electricity, meaning the power shortage will not affect it.
Ad a propane bottle in the corner and you're set.
If i needed to install heating and warm water somewhere on the budget, this thing and wall-mounted heaters are what i'd go for, not a big heater/boiler.
Hi... I carry water for showering in a large plastic icebox in my van. If you allow the water to circulate back into the icebox after going through the system for 5 mins. the water warms, which then ultimately raises the shower temperature.
Nice one Simon thanks
@@MrMeltedwellies did it help???
another thing, how you control the water temp in a shower? for example if you have separate shower room in a van? first its too cold and gets hotter and hotter and then its too hot?
Thanks for info, good thing kitty was supervising
Thank you so much for this fantastic video. Absolutely clear and helpful. I just bought this heater and this video just save my day!
Great video 👏👏👏👏 love these showers! That shower head is very nice 👍 , love the long shower hose too! Pretty annoying having to deal with a short hose.
Man this is so helpful! Want to be off grid in a few years and this was one thing I had wanted to do. Have the Camp Chef version in my Amazon cart and will be using this to begin with while camping.
Great job I’ve had mine for about 2 years and use it every day. Upgrading the shower head is a must. As I understand it the right nozzle is for pressure not temperature. You need to turn the right.nozzle anit clockwise to reduce pressure to increase the temperature. Counterintuitive I guess. The left gas nozzle should then be kept about half way. Batteries run out so I connect my parallel connected pack of 6x 18650 batteries through the spade connectors and keep the voltage about 3.6v. They are rechargeable and last forever. Easy hack and makes sense. As the unit doesn’t ignite properly below 3volts.
sir, how long does the hot water last? is it enough for a person to take a shower?
can you post a video of what you did?
@@ismaeltolentino4500 There is no storage, the water goes through it to heat as long as it's on. Super cheap to run hot water as it only uses gas when the water is flowing.
Just created my own system after seeing yours gave me the initiative. I bought a similar boiler but attached one othose cheap chinese 12v motors which works great, in fact it works too well. Trouble with these motors are they're predominantly high pressure 130+ psi which is far too high to initiate the auto back pressure shutoff should you choose to use one of those shower heads with a switch off button on it. The motor labours on and wouldnt shut off even when the output was blocked off, so who knows what trouble this might cause to the internals of the boiler? I sorted this problem by dismantling the pressure switch assembly on the pump end, and got hold of the short (very strong spring) that controls the switch off function and ground about a washers worth of metal off each end. Upon reassembly the system is far more responsive and stops instantly I turn off the shower head button cutting the flow. Thats how I did it anyway, so if helps anyone, good luck. On the off chance you grind too much off the spring, you can always add a washer in as a shim to increase cut-off pressure
Thanks for your reply! I have seen a lot of information on these heaters but never seen anybody describe the function when attached to a showerhead with an on/off valve on the handle. I plan on buying a heater like this but i do not know if it is suitable for my van since I only have around 25L of water. I must have the on/off switch to save water but I don't know if those heaters need a continous flow to work properly? Would you mind explaining a bit?
@:Sven-Tomas. Yes they need a continuous flow at around 16 psi or they cut out the burners for safety reasons, the shower head on/off button is the same as turning the tap on and off. You would use too much water just getting it hot at 6 litres per minute. I just tested mine on my tank and pressure pump system and it took 30 sec. to get warm and 1min for shower temp and if turned off will cool down quickly, .You would be better off getting shower temp water in a bucket/line and a 6 liter per minute 12v pump (eBay cheap) with handy cutoff and/or adjustable rate system.
You can use the proper pressure 12v pumps and drop the inlet into a creek/tank/neighbours pool situation, these gas heaters are fantastic and are set up to use common garden variety hose setups (pun intended). One 8.5 kilo gas bottle lasts me 6 months at home at 5 showers a week and I get them filled for AUD $15. Instant on gas hot water system...Yeh Baby.
I will correct myself, minimum pressure, I am guessing, would be about 30 psi.
Thank you so much for taking the time and effort with this video, its helped me out so much thank you
You're very welcome!
Winter/Summer dial cuts out 1/2 the burners on one side of the array on Summer setting.The water control on the right adjusts the rate of flow hence the temperature, to the left =hotter/slower. Get one with the LED temperature display, best idea ever and makes the adjustments much easier.
Have you had any issues with it only coming out super way too hot?
My Thermomate was working great for a while now the water hardly comes out with any pressure and the temp goes up to 60degrees Celsius!!!
@@rorymagnatheredking Maybe check your filters and clean them, Paddy?
had a very inexpensive Gasland 6L for years , can get uncomfortabley hot easily works great !!!
Looks to me like you have the temperature turned down low.
hard to tell , the thermometer on the right looks like it is hot
Every video I've seen on these shows the temp adjustment working backwards from the flow rate. Yeah, he's got the temp set to low.
His setting in the video is correct. The right knob is a water flow restriction valve. Turning it to the right reduces the water flow so it spends more time in the heat exchanger and gets hotter.
Turned to the left is the opposite - more water flowing with less temperature rise.
Stumbled onto your video, liked it, thanks for sharing Mark..
Thanks for the video. I've been using the Fastar for 3 years now trouble free. Bought a similar one but different brand from Germany and it is giving me problems after only 1 year.
Thanks for sharing
if you want to make human soup in in a bucket with a recirculating system you need a filter on the intake to keep human stuff out of the pipes.
It would have been really useful if you had used the 12v pump to see what temperature that made the water?
Good information for anyone thinking of buying one. I was not aware of this type shower. 👍👍👍
Cheers Chris
@@MrMeltedwellies Hey Mark , do you need a regulator on the propane tank or is the heater self regulating ??? Thanks
These units may be small enough to install inside the back door of my campervan. Hooked up to water tank & propane tank.
they work well thanks for watching Jeffrey
These thing make a whole lot of heat venting from the top. Wouldnt recommend installing inside the door.
I’m looking at installing one of these in our 1987 Mercedes motorhome I’m looking at using the onboard watertank as the pump is there already and it goes into the shower room as out water heater just won’t use on gas only electric drives me mad so I’m thinking of using the shower hose already in the motorhome and hooking that to the boiler for the water flow hope this works as hate cold shower
Hello Mark, 2 mistakes here. First, the control on the right is there to turn down the water flow. Second, and my main point is you MUST have a shower head with an on/off switch. If you have an endless supply of mains water, as in your video, it's not too much of a problem but you would still have to get out of the shower to turn it off. You had to walk to your garden tap, leaving the hot water to run out into the bowl. Off-grid you cannot afford to waste water and gas like that so need the water to turn off immediately you have finished your shower. Did the original head not have an on/off switch, all the heaters I have seen had. A well presented video but only useful if you live in a house and misleading if you live off-grid.
he doesn't have decent water pressure since its turned down all the way .. 1k likes 1 k blind hoes & yea the setup is all messed up ..
I would guess the washer was put on that way so it would not get missed place when shipped.
Hi Mark, correct me if im wrong but the water temperature seems to be set to the lowest? I see how its easily confused as the dial on the left is at maximum when turned all the way to the right but if you look at the line above the dial it goes from small to large
Looks like you are correct
You might want to check the screen on the water inlet as well.. They can block up over time and the system actually runs better without it. Only down side is over time the shower head might block up, but back flushing the head should.fix that
Nice one Brett
I have one and put it inside my camper I used a 5inch by 11 floor register and a metal 4inch dryer metal for exhaust thru wall going to outside note ( EXHAUST GETS VERY VERY HOT DO NOT TOUCH),and I have a 16 foot trailer .
Whats a floor register?
Great idea...im on that
Great video Mark, I found it very useful as am thinking of using this type of system for hot water, window cleaning using a water fed pole. Some companies are charging thousands of pounds for hot water systems to be fitted to people’s vans!! Could I ask how safe are they?
Many thanks Lee
very safe but make sure its in a well ventilated area
a portable gas shower for when u need to do a little final solution cleansing on the go?
Great vid clear instructions 👍
Water temperature is on minimum no maximum...
@macel sip, good spotting
Good eye. To be fair, the orientation of the dials relative to their function is not very intuitive. It's for some reason inverse of the gas dial.
Absolutely spot on my mistake thank you for your input thanks for watching
Correct me if i'm wrong but the dial+image appears to indicate that the temperature goes in the opposite direction to the others so at the start of the video you actually set it to the coldest setting?
Lethal, It looks you are right, and i think he's exploded in his shower, i see no answers of people's questions anymore🤔.
@@jamescorbell3349 lol still hear and my mistake about the knobs thanks for watching
Few things;
1-Not enough water pressure device will shut. 60psi minimum or so.
2-Remove the screen in the water intake and be sure water is always clean and filtered.
3-I have seen people installing these into vans.Never go Full retard. These are outdoor units.
4-Wind may extinguish flames so keep it away from the wind.
5-When batteries are getting low it will not ignite or have weird symptoms. Use rechargeable good quality ones.They last around 30 to 60days depending on usage and cold weather.
I wish you were about when i first got mine thanks for all the tips and thanks for watching 👍🍷☀
really 60 psi ?! Thats alot ! Is there a way to lower the trigger pressure ?
@@x3Cay not that I know of. Mine shuts when less than it.
@@samuelkatherinediozarago7692 Okey, i looked up on ebay, The description says that 10-110 Psi will shoot the trigger
@@x3Cay They dont need that much pressure at all. 35pis 12v pump is more than enough. It's the flow of water that matters, in L/min or equivilent. Im sure you figured that out by now, but just in case someone else comes across these comments with the same questions.
If you reduce our water flow on thé unit,you Will reduce thé water pressure and you watertemperatuur Will rise.you can see it on the pictogram on our Heater
Thank you for the great review. Very informative. This is perfect! I'm looking for a small propane water heater for a small 885 liter pool, just to take the chill out in a pinch. To hook it up inline with the filter pumps outlet and just let it circulate. It's one of these or a long stretch of copper tubing coiled up inside the grill lol. I'm assuming when you shut off the switch, the heater goes off but the water still flows?
Thanks for watching John and yes it does
I run mine back through the 5 gal pail I pump from .. takes a few minutes but much warmer
good point
Impressive, thank you.
This is a great system, thanks
You're welcome!
Good quality video! Well done! Thank you sir!
The 12v pump works on 6ltrs per min, that's the correct flow rate for the heater.
Mains water flow is much greater, foo much water flow = less heat 😁
Hello can I ask a question hopefully you can help iv purchased a mobile home I'm replacing the old style gas boiler which is a 6 litre one with a new on-demand one which is a 12 litre have I made a mistake ordering a 12 litre one 🤷🧐 Cheers
@@Security2U You can still run a 12v pump, but the flow rate should match the boiler, same applies if you are running mains power.
Was looking for something portable for my camper....this looks just the job... great...
Thanks for the video. Very useful on the whole. One question...
If it is scolding hot with the temperature on minimum... Can you turn it down using the other dial? I am considering purchasing but not if it's going to burn me!
Yes you can
So what was the hack?
Hi people , what I find is 6 l water pump is not enought.That hws was on of on of all time.So I change pump for 12 l and it is work nicely.My wife is hapy so it mus work.
What are the components for the gas input that you attached the hose to?
Thank you so much for your efforts 😍
Great idea, but..... I have had four of them. Not bad when they are working, but three have ruptured in cold weather and the fourth clicks but will not ignite. The price has increased a lot since I tried them so I waiting for someone to tell me which are the better brands before I try again. There can be substantial differences in price, but they all appear to be very similar in manufacture
in cold weather? Did you let them freeze? Obviously then they will brake...
Ive had one of these and the problem of providing the inlet with 50lbs of water pressure out on a campsite really sucks. You have to go out and buy a water pump that is small enough to cart around but wont burn up if no water is running through it. My water pump is never ran more than a second or two without water running through it. Why dont they address this problem. In your video you just hooked up to your house, which probably has 45 - 50 lbs, unfamiliar with pascals, of water pressure. Make another video with that piece of shit hooked up to an actual 12V system with your recommendation for a water pump which is necessary. That portable shower is just junk if you don't properly set it up in the field.
Thanks mate
I just set up my Thurmo mate 6L unit for the first time. And was very dissatisfied with its performance to say the least. It seems to cut out a lot.
Hot one minute then cold.
I’m guessing my flow is too high as I’m using a RV water pump with reasonable pressure. I’ll insert a valve to slow flow down and see how I go.
Hello, the gas goes off and on automatically when you open and close the water or you always have to turn off the gas bottle
Hi thank you for the video, I bought this one 3.months ago and it's suddenly developed a fault, before contacting the supplier want to see if it's an easy fix, it seems not to be ignighting, there is plenty of gas and the batteries are fine, we Han hear it clicking as if it's trying to light but just it's like there isn't any gas getting to it, we have checked the gas pipe etc but to no avail.... Thanks x
Hi Missymojo not sure but there is a small mesh vent in the gas inlet check that and water pressure that make a big difference low pressure
Mark xx
@@MrMeltedwellies tha k you so much, will check the mesh tomorrow x
Thanks for your review, but you had the temperature on minimum, NOT maximum. Look at the symbol above the dial. Cheers.
Yes, you are right
great job my friend, thanks for your video.
Highly appreciated
Keep it up
so it can be used on back yard without any electric cord to power it?
Yep defo
Good setup could it be adapted for a campervan ?
got a video coming soon you will be impressed
Bang on
Very informintive,thank you sir
Looks good. Did you need a gas regulator on the bottle end? If so which type?
Hi All
Im thinking of connecting one of these to the caravan outside permenantly to by pass the existing water heater.
I assume then i will need to go outside and switch on/off each time i want to use the shower or hot water to wash up
As I dont want the heater running all day long using the gas.
I think a 6L would be enough to push the water around the caravan
Does anyone know if a shower head that has a stop start switch would be suitable for this shower.
Would a inline water 12v pump run this shower
not sure it needs pressure to fire up i brought a julca shower
www.joolca.co.uk/products/hottap-v2?
Perfect 👌
Would the rooftop fan vent be enough to use this indoor for a campervan?
No you would have to attach a flue
I tapped a bath half full of cold water, put the inlet hose into the water in the bath and pumped it up through the heater and back into the bath. Eventually there was pre-heated water going through the pump into the heater and back into the bath (Yes, yes, I know it's a dumb thing to do!!). End result was that the water going into the bath was too hot and triggered the thermal overheat switch. Won't do that again. Question is: is there a manual reset switch inside the cover? Help!
Great video.. by the way fir tge gas ..there is a clip on..rather than jubilee clip
Regards
Thanks but you started off the video showing a pump and suggesting that was how you were going to demonstrate it. Then you plugged it into the main water. Will that pump work the shower boiler?
I just sold the one in my camper (because all the plumbing was leaking and I couldn't afford to fix it all) my mum bought the shower off me for her bathroom. Anyways, I just started it up for the first time and the flame inside seems massive! Is that normal? Or is propane too much for it, it says natural or LPG gas in the instructions but says methane gas on a sticker, I've never heard of using methane for these showers so we used propane... just worried the flame inside isn't right... it looks like a fire inside?
I used to have one of these instant water heaters in an apartment in Spain. The blue flame was huge, very powerful. It sounded like a fighter jet :D But oh boy it was fast and powerful. The flame should be blue, not yellow.
So after hooking up your water supply and turning on your gas the electric start ignites the gas? So am I assuming right that the battery system turns off and gas keeps the water hot during run times? How hot does that water get? 110 degrees?
spot on as for water temp thats down to settings on the boiler
So what the Hack? This is just a setup. i had to use a solar camping water shower head and throw the expensive one away that came with the unit. you can get and adjustable water flow shower head save fiddling with the mains pressure you be had if your using a cheap 12v pump without an accumulator. Im going to buy a cheaper second unit hook a t piece on the propane bottle and run two units together just to get some pressure and heat. a dribbling shower is not a shower at the end of the day. i have to admit out of all the cons these units save a lot of money on heating bills but at the sacrifice of a crappy shower. Given that im hooking two units together see how it goes pressure is a big deal when it comes to showers man not so much a hot bath which is out of the question with these units capped at 50 degrees time it hits the tub its cold again you need at least 75 degree to draw a hot bath by the time it cools down to 50 degree. remember body core temp is 37 degree you need at least an increment of 2 -10 degree above to have a "hot shower" Japanese know their baths they go up as far as 60 degree meat starts to fry at that temp the crazy bastards. but they have good health Low cancer rate. Cancer in the body cant survive at a certain temperature you dont want to fry your organs at that temp drinking ice water at that tem helps balance heat away from the body vitals and killing cancer throughout the rest of the body
Did you try hooking 2 together and did it work?
Thank you! Can you use methane as well?
not sure
In the United States we use compression fittings for propane .............
Hahaha yeah your wiring standards are shit too
Where does the electric come from? Does it hold batteries? Can you connect to 12volts? Lots of questions. Help.
just batteries not changed in two years still working no 12v
I have same unit I want to use it indoors,I need to know how hot the heater gets thanks
Please do not use indoors only outside or where gas fumes can vent away easily
May I ask what shower head you're using?
it was a low pressure one of ebay
How much water pressure does that little pump give you? Does the heater require minimum pressure?
not sure on pressure but yes heater need a certain amount of pressure to ignite
Mark Davies ok, thanks.
How can I get ut
Do you mean orange calor gaz bottle ?
yes
Would it be possible to make a vent cowl to remove the fumes to outside and how would adding a branch leading to the sink tap affect the showers throughput?
Hey Mark.
I got a new but used one of these water heaters a few days ago. Its a 18L-Version of it. Didnt use it until now. The former owner never used it himself. They bought it brandnew and didnt have the proper hose for it. So it was lying around for a few months. I bought it for 25€ but im kinda curious whether it will work at all.
Mine doesnt show any lights or sth when i switch it on. Just silence. Does it need to have water pressure or gas pressure in order to switch itself on? Or does it show lights or sound or whatever immediately when you switch it on? In your video it seemed that it switched itself on and ignited the gas by itself as you made the water flow through it. I dont wanna buy a hose for another 15€ if its not working anyway you know? Would be happy to hear from you.
Regards 😊
Needs water pressure to ignite and gas of course
@@MrMeltedwellies Thanks for the reply. :)
Is yours still working? Are you still using it to these days? Or was it just a temporary gadget? Ill try mine in a few days. Here in germany our typical pressure regulators for bottled gas lets out 50 mbar. The manual said, the water heater should get a maximum of 28 mbar. So i needed to order another pressure regulator + hose prior to using it. Which pressure did you use it with?
Regards. :)
If you had just watched his video..
Hi Mark
Can you tell me is the shower hose is a 1/2 inch IPS fitting?
What is the orange attachment??
water attachment
What size tho?
Can you build it horizontally under a camper van ?
no not advised
@@MrMeltedwellies thanks. :)
Hi Mark, I can’t see what make this is and what model. Am I being stupid?
Had the same problem with my joolca the damn shower head was absolutely useless pumping too much water sent the water damn cold out the other end for a half warm shower by the time it was at the right shower temp 47 degree it was a dribble coming out you would not call a shower despite all the high price and fanfare how great it is on the brochure. a swiss couple in the mountains having hot fast showers all plastered all over the advertising. total scam these water units. im thinking of hooking two of them up or maybe three just to get the pressure and temp at something usable
do i need to buy a pump to push the water inside my house or does it come with a pump. if i need a pump what size would you recommend? i want to use this when our city water goes out and there is no pressure
yes you need a pump i will put a link
ua-cam.com/video/UYh5SPdkqiE/v-deo.html
Funktioniert denn das alles mit einer normalen Gasflasche mit 50mBar? Weil auf der Therme steht 28mBar druck. Und funktioniert es auch mit einer normalen 12V Wohnwagen Wasserpumpe? Könnte ich es im Staukasten im Wohnwagen verbauen oder ist das verboten? Wäre dir Dankbar für eine Antwort. Kann man es auch unter Dauergas lassen, und startet die Therme automatisch man man den Wasserhahn aufdreht, also die Wasserpumpe dann anläuft? Und was ist wenn die Gasflamme mal ausgeht wie im Video, strählt dann weiter Gas aus oder wird es automatisch unterbrochen, auch wenn das Wasser weiter läuft? Lg Sandro
Can you send me a link of that Orange water connections and the pump ? I do not have water connections using the bucket method Thanks in advance
i got it from B&Q cheers
You have the heat on low setting not high
The setting for high heat is anti clockwise
Is it temperature controlled? I guess you could T off the cold supply into a thermostatic mixer shower tap and feed the hot into the other side.
Would it be possible to fit a flue on these ?
Can you just run cold water through the unit with out gas
yes
This helped a lot Mark D.
Hi where did u say u bought new shower head from please. N thanx
I'm considering purchasing this, but would it be okay to be used inside an enclosed canopy type tent?
Not good for you but no worse then a gas heater people use.
I want to use one of these to heat a spa. Anyone got any ideas on how to bypass the inbuilt 20 minute shut off timer?
Mine won't ignite
Mines gone I have a new one. If you have low water pressure that will course it
I have a camplux 5l for washing my horse ,can you use a normal garden hose on the outlet instead of the shower head ?
Please help
I just got a second hand one,and it has hose click fitting on inlet and outlet,if that helps,some fitted it
Can you give me the name of the shower head you used? Thank you