panellogy 419 - alberto breccia #2 - fantagraphics' mort cinder in comparison to my older edition
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- comparing the new fantagraphics edition of "mort cinder" with my older copy from the early 90s... does it hold up? .... a follow up to panellogy 414!
your review is excellent.
the difference in printing quality is crazy!! and we don't see all details in your video because the fantagraphics version has even more details as the ones visible in this video.
I’ve been slowly reading the Fantagraphics edition all week, since your last video got me off my butt to finally grab a copy. As I read it I keep wishing each panel was a full page. So wonderful.
But lets face it, its best to have all editions of something like this in your library.
Will you please review Lone Sloane Delirius 2? It is out now. Love your opinion about it. ❤️
The amount of detail and nuance in the enhanced Fantagraphics version is amazing. I do agree they should have opted for a bigger format and, probably, a more “natural” typography. I just wonder if its a personalized typeface or something they bought from the a graphic resources site? Anyway an edition that, somehow, makes justice to the stunning Breccia’s work.
Spontaneous and unedited. I feel so at home :)
When I watched your earlier Breccia video, I felt a pang of sorrow that the Dracula I had been looking forward to getting would not be as definitive as a Fantagraphics edition should have been. I was even tempted to see if the German edition was somehow available here (it wasn't)
So I avoided clicking on this video for a few hours. I've already obtained and enjoyed the Fantagraphics edition of Mort Cinder, and I was dreading hearing you say they had messed up in some terrible way.
I am relieved. 😁
And Mort Cinder is a wonderful book, for me as a first time read.
in hindsight it is a wonder that Mort Cinder has been one of my favourite comics despite I had "only" the rough version until now.... now I'm really looking forward to explore my "new" Perramus by Fanta
@@earlgrey862 I need to read Perramus again, it's wonderfully dense and abstract but I don't think I got it all, especially because the art was hypnotizing
@@ftloc I feel like I could read Perramus 100 times and still not get it all, but I'd definitely enjoy each read!
I love this chanel
Would you say that Mort Cinder is the best book (as far as ARTWORK) by Breccia or would you say Perramus: The City and Oblivion. Two completely different art styles. I am trying to see where i will start with collecting Breccia Books (hopefully in English)😋♥
Perramus is more experimental in terms of artstyle and storytelling... and probably most people would rank it higher than Mort Cinder... but I love both books.
@@earlgrey862 ok. but i would like your opinion. Which one do i start with? I think those two are the only ones that i can find in English.😅
Fantagraphics has started its Breccia-library one or three years ago... so there is a bit more (the most recent one: Evita (don't get that one!), Che, Dracula, the eternaut 1969 ...?). In terms of his most acclaimed books there are indeed Perramus, Mort Cinder and Lovecraft (don't know if that was already translated or will be.. but it has to be!).
My recommendation: if you want to have only one book: Perramus...
if you want to have only two books: Perramus and Mort Cinder (and then start with Mort)...
but actually I would recommend to get Mort, Perramus, Lovecraft (if available in English), Dracula (because it's in color and drastically different than the others... even if the colors repro by fanta are a bummer, I made a video about it), the eternaut1969 (a "new" and abridged version of the classic story).
if you want to have everything you can add Che and maybe even Evita
@@earlgrey862 You have made my day with your informative answer. This is what i needed. Thank you. I cannot wait to for the next time i hear: "Hello...comic fans..!" =)
How does the lettering compare? I was thinking about buying the German edition, because I found the lettering in the Fantagraphics edition of Perramus quite ugly.
ugh yes, the lettering is (almost?) the same in Fantagraphics' Perramus and Mort Cinder ... would not call it ugly, but it's one of these "pseudo handlettering" computer fonts ... at least it is rather restrained and not so "flamboyant" that it takes your attention all the time. Anyway, if you just compare the lettering: the old books easily win, just because it was "true" handlettering there (and I prefer even the worst handlettering to any kind of computerstuff), but otherwise, as Michele Ferrara put it: the fantaversion is so true to the original artwork that it is almost an artist edition... and therefore I would recommend to get the fantabook.
@@earlgrey862 ah that's really a shame about the Fantagraphics lettering. I really don't understand why they'd use computer lettering next to Breccia artwork, which is so organic and loose. That said, I guess I'd probably still go for the English version, because the changes to the Carlsen edition sound pretty egregious.
Yeah, Carlsen edition is like our Glenat's. I mean it's rearranged (right pages on left side, chapters that were published in horizontal format reassembled in vertical, etc) and the reproduction falls off because they worked on the magazines, I guess. On the other hand Fantagraphics worked on the originals and restored them. So it's a new experience.
thanks for the recommendation... it was really worth it!
So you are not impressed with fantagraphics dracula. Would you reccomend it? It is in my to buy list.
dracula by Breccia is a stunning book (not my favorite, but opinions differ... it's a very unusual one for sure).... buuut: the reproduction of the colors in my much older german version is far better than in the fantagraphics one, that's why I recommend to look for that one instead... watch panellogy 414 for details
The german edition has a better reproduction quality but it has no extras (sketches). The italian edition, Comma 22, has the same quality of the Carlsen's one and it has extras too. Idk how much it will cost you to get it on ebay, so you decide. If both of them cost too much, then just go for Fantagraphics' one.
What a timing, I bought this book like 30 min. ago :)
hope you enjoy it as much as I do