So Simple a Drummer could tune it: Dialtune Snare
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Drummers: Too cheap to buy new heads, and to lazy to bother to learn how to tune. This solves the second problem. Not sponsored of affiliated in any way, I just thought it was cool.
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its a good idea thats for sure, just hope they have the staying power to last and dont go under soon like a lot of new upstart companies do.
Especially with corona fucking shit up. Would hate to see all this engineering go to waste
I just bought my dialtune, i hoped it helped them to keep afloat
drummer here. can confirm. i need this in my life.
PS we need this for the whole kit too
Check out Welch Tuning Systems, they're a newer company also making modern rope tuned drums, except theirs is a single point system that tunes the top and bottom simultaneously and they're offering it on full kits!
Someone should produce a song in which the drummer is playing a snare cadence while someone else is slowly detuning it.
if done right that would be epic.
Would be like Opeth's Burden but for drums!!
Glenn, I can't believe you would just rob me of my next paycheck like that...
More like my next three! Stupid bills...
"learning stuff from a drummer" i mean, if you learn from the likes of rdavidr...
Just came from watching his latest video
That is simply amazing. They need to make entire drum sets like that. The ease of tuning and quickness of head changing. WoW.
This on a whole kit 🤯
DRUMMER: Brah...it doesn't get the sound I needs. Ma duct tape and napkins tone can't be beat.
Drummer: Will this work on my Yamaha Electronic Drums?
My mind is blown to shreds! I need that on my 30-bracer banjo!
Yes, Glenn. A drummer should be learning physics as well.. lol
😂🤣😂🤣
But, really.. WOW!
I was looking into the Welch tuning system but this seems to be a lot more convenient. Loved this video. Thank you, Glenn.
Holy shit. I would seriously invest in this for my whole kit, if I could. Tuning drums is something I've never really gotten the hang of, and this would be such an amazing upgrade for my kit.
What if your drummer is so incompetent he doesn't even know what a snare is? Asking for a friend
H O L Y S H I T.. This is going to save me years of my life...Thank you
Holy fuck. That's actually fucking amazing!
looks like a bit of a rip-off of welch drums....
shut up and take my money! oh...i dont have money.🍻
Damn it Glenn, I woke up thinking it was January and Winter Namm was going on, and this whole Covid shut down was just a really long bad dream.
This is truly amazing, if it truly works, and is maintainable long term. However, what about TONE? What kind of shells will be available? Could you adapt this to a Supraphonic or BB? Will all of that tuning system hardware choke the resonance of the shell? To me, these are issues that are as important as the convenience and consistency offered by the technology. If the formula of technology + tone proves true, then this might be worth the asking price.
@@victortesla4198 Thanks Victor, you speak as if you might work for Dialtune? Yes, I looked at the website and discovered both initial models are 8-ply maple. I'm sure they sound great. But from the photos is seems that there is more hardware contacting the shell than most other drum lug designs. I also wonder how the interconnecting cabling between those lugs may also effectively damp the shell resonance. As I have not had the opportunity to try the product out, of course all of this is pure speculation.
If they were to release a full kit with this system, it would make tuning drums for studio or gigs 10 billion times easier and save a huuuuuge amount of time! In studio, it can take days to tune, mic, and eq the drums, with a system like this, it’d take mere minutes!
Nice!! This will make a blown snare head SO much easier to change on stage!! This would have been nice on a couple of gigs let me tell ya!! 😁
Like the WTS kits/snares. The main difference is that the WTS snare are free floating shells (with exception to the anchor point) and are deeper. From what I have heard, I prefer the WTS snares. But this is a great drum for sure.
By the gods.... I've been dreaming of a solution like this for 30 FUCKING YEARS!
I do appreciate you advocating for live drum recordings, so forgive me, but as a drummer, this looks terrible. The absolute mass of all that hardware will just kill any resonance, despite all their efforts to isolation mount things. You might as well just muffle a much cheaper snare or use a trigger to drive samples. Also, that quick release hoop system seems like nothing but pain down the road in terms of rattle, dead spots and more. While they are using good shells (Keller), I question how much thought is put into the bearing edges and finish of those shells.
For that price (1000 USD), you are way better off getting on getting two or three good mid range snares (say a Black Magic, a Tama S.L.P and so on) and have one for higher tuning/fast attack and one for lower tuning/slower attack. Get a drum key drill bit and a DrumDial and you'll be able to change heads in a very reasonable amount of time. I mean, this is more expensive than a Black Beauty snare.
Cool concept, not worth $1,000, imo. They'd be better off selling it as just the hardware/conversion, where you could convert any snare/drum. I play a nickel plated brass, the drum he demoed doesn't have near the attack I would need.
AWESOME!!!
Finally a Dummy Proof way of tuning a Snare Drum !!😎🤘
Good to learn things from a drummer. Counting would be one thing. Not wanting to upset the “amped” stringed instrument players, but I’ve seen many, many of them not be able to count beats or bars while they play. When trying to teach other musicians what they want played, they kind of mime it to everyone while staring blankly, expecting their minds to be read. It’s not all about “just feeling” it when you want people to play “your” way.
As far as tuning goes, until recently, drummers didn’t have the convenience of tuning devices to help them. I wonder how many other musicians would cope using just their ears and more than six tuning pegs?!
Worth considering... (Bracing for a beating)
Drummers: If you don't know how to tune your own drums, fucking quit playing and take up crochet.
> Drummer for 15 years who can tune drums.
Im getting 2 of these for my tech arsenal. This is exactly what i need for tour. Awesome stuff!
Grand Slam. Genius.........looks like it is built like a tank. Need to buy this before some large company buys them out and screws this great idea to the moon. I see a set of DW with these as a great studio set.
What if TRAPT wanted you to mix and master their new album... Would you do it? Lol
i need that!!!!!!... I'm a bass player but I'm a drummer....so .....
Someone from my old highschool would still find a way to fuck this up.
5:52 why did he start beating the skin more to the side? of course there will be overtones on the side...
How often does the drum dial just collapse the walls of the drum in?
So cool!
Not a drummer but damn this is a cool easy tool I'd use if I were...
soooo evertune is now for drummers?
1:41 - Priceless look .. just ordered one .. this model and color
Hi Glenn, I've been watching your videos for a while and I've got something to tell you. We're trying to run a band, but due to our economic situation (being 16 is not easy lmao), it's more of a project than a band. My bandmate came with an idea to start Nirvana cover band, with me on vocals and guitar (besides my hair I don't look like Kurt and I can't sing). I instantly disagreed, because an idea of me covering the most covered band of all time for profit just made me sick. At the moment, my bandmate (best friend of mine btw) is extremely toxic and mad at me, just because I stood my ground. What should I do at this point?
With love from Czechia, Vacek.
If your bro is mad at you for that, he's very selfish. You're not even refusing playing with him, just the specific idea with which you're not comfortable. Having that said, I understand your friend's frustration and it's indeed one of the things that makes the age of 16 not easy: you guys give too much importance to everything. It's only natural, but try to keep that in check. Try to give it time, I don't know. Or just suggest something else. I once tried starting a Bluegrass project with friends and they all accepted, but no one moved their asses because they weren't as passionate about Bluegrass and Country as me. I got frustrated too, but I didn't get mad at them. We were all 20 and above already, though. Now I'm in a Hard Rock band with one of them and things are flying neat. Tell your friend to not spoil the good things just because he can't have one specific good thing he wants alone.
@@drakonyanazkar thanks dude
seems like a great invention. all the best! tough market.
Holy shit! A THOUSAND DOLLARS!
for a drummer ?? or for you? hahaha greetings bro !!
Abitor made a snare with auto tune I had one hmmm not good lol
Show this shit to Jared if he's still into drums.
Cool idea, hate how they price it so goddang expensive when it could be a innovative breakthrough
it's not like they can get a major metallurgy factory to mass produce it tho
Innovation costs money, I don't know what else to tell you.
@@nicks4802 legal rights and trademark can possibly be worked around. What do I know tho? They do whatever they want with their marketing plans
Good things cost money to make and take time to become accessible to the mass market.
It's a very smart innovation and you'd be ignoring salient facts to not think so. Tuning pegs have nothing keeping them in similar tension so there are so many ways to tune a drum poorly, but this narrows it down to two major variables. When comparing speed and accuracy, even a great drum tuner would struggle to tune up faster or tighter. This has applications from studios to newbies.
The guy in the video is a great salesman, very professional.
First of all, this thing sounds way better in person; it really is amazing. Good ol' whats-his-name told me they've been working on this one design for 5 years. Every time they tried a different shell material or shell thickness, they had to completely redesign the lugs and the pulley system. That's why they don't have metal shells yet, but theyre working on it. When they release a copper shell, I'll sell a kidney and buy it right away.
My drummer would still find a way to fuck this up
so...a roto tom snare. got it. now we can breath easier
fun idea though i would never buy this (replacement parts in a few years or resale value like any innovation...) .
Sounds like what somebody would have said when the first Les Paul or Stratocaster came to market
@@justadrummer1954 maybe, but there are a lot more innovations that did not pan out, and innovations in musical instruments these days rarely make it.
at 1k USD I just can't afford it
Good time to become a drumer by the way
Holy shit! That's awesome!
this looks like an amazing idea...but 1000$....let's hope it catches momentum and prices go down.
At that price they won't get out of the gate unfortunately. Or fortunately maybe.... Drummers will learn how to properly tune?
@@AtTheSourceStudios They do.. Our drummer do it in less than 5 minutes.. This dial tune is a great concept but really expensive!!
Is this autotune for drums? xD
more like evertune
I was thinking floyd rose, but yeah :D
@@szaki95 great, now I wanna see someone do a dive bomb on a floor tom
Now that is fucking cool!
That's fuckin' cool.
any plan for the rest of the kit?
I want a full kit.
Glenn did you do an ad for Road shadow legends, I just got an ad on snapchat that had character reading a mean comment and his mannerism seemed quite a lot like yours. If I'm talking out of my ass that's fair enough but it really isn't seem like you.
Yeah, about a year ago. What’s up?
1K$ snare !
Too cheap and "too" lazy...
it had me legitimately interested until i saw the retail price point.
Many 'top end' snare drums are in that zone of price. If this thing really works (and is maintainable long term), it might be worth the price for sake of convenience and consistency on stage and in studio.
Severedhead Death yeah, if it was a universal attachment or something like that, I think that would have more appeal as well as well as being a little cheaper. I'm not gonna shell out $1,000+ for 5 minutes of convenience.
Shit! Really cool product!
that is super cool!!
That's bad ass what's the $ on that
Evertune of drums!
Hey Glenn, I’ve been using an Orange Micro Dark,a Rocket 50 speaker, and some random Audio technica mic from the 90s. I’ve been getting some pretty good results. However I’ve been wanting to change up some stuff. Do you have any recommendations for a cabinet?
Cool concept but im not shelling out over 1k for 1 snare drum made by a company with no drum making experience just so I can change drum heads quickly.. if this became the standard mount/tuning for other drum companies that would be even better, probably not going to happen though
That is super awesome!!
The “holy crap learning stuff from a drummer” comment to a guy at namm you just met really sums up Glenn.
I wonder if they would be up for taking on this challenge for marching snares. When I've worked with those groups, they are typically using kevlar heads and cranking the hell out of them to get that very high and super tight snare sound. I like how this company wants to develop this for other drum sizes. On the road or gigging... this could be a show saver! I remember carrying spare snares and keeping them on the drum riser for quick swap-out.
As a metal drummer, the question always is, how does it handle blastbeats? ALSO. DOES IT STAY IN TUNE??
Is it just me or is the Pulse IR loader had some latency issue? I'm on an old machine so that is definitely contributing to the problem but it feels much better playing through Ignite Amp's NadIR.
Imagine how much better (and more convenient) making a drum-head shootout video would be with this thing.. or even more day-to-day: shooting out different heads in the studio to find the best sound.
The better mouse trap.
Damn! That's a dream snare system.
Do they have toms like this?
This is awesome. I would have loved to hear it without the damapening so that I could have judged wether the head is really even all around.
I hope you get this in the studio ASAP! I really would like to know how this holds up in a mix with rim shots.
That is so awesome.
would've buy it right away if it was like 250$ not 1000$..
they should sell the hardware as well. kinda like a universal setup for the most popular snares.
It’s cool for sure, just not a thousand dollars cool!
Ohh burn! You got me there! Sorry just don’t see this as a worthwhile investment. Just an overpriced gimmick that will fade into obscurity just like all other gimmicky junk they try to pass of at NAMM shows!
This is really cool. Will they make this for the rest of the drum kit and could you put one of those on any snare?
I assume they are making it so we can put it on most any snare? Also, do you need to tune the pegs tightness ratio up front or does it somehow auto adjust even if one peg is out when starting?
Insane!!!💯💪🏼
I think I remember seeing this on a 66Samus video of NAMM
Its great...but it still isn't helping bass players 😣😣
hippo!!!!!!!!! 1:44
Can't wait to see this on other drums and being able to add it to drums you already have!
So cool!
This is so cool! I hope they make a brass version. Unless brass is too soft.
I don't even play drums and that thing is badass
Hey Glenn, check out WTS and Sleishman drums, they have amazing tuning systems plus there is NOTHING screwed on the shell, a 12" tom can sound like a 16" floor tom because it doesn't choke no matter how low or high you tune them.
That is an excellent point. How much does all that hardware gadgetry affect the tone of the shell? I'm sure we will learn more soon.
Is that like the evertune for drummers?
Someone should send this to Lars...
woop... $999
i'm asking our drummer to buy this
That reminds me of the single lug tuning arbiter did in the late 90s/early 00s. Very quick to change heads but replacing parts and manufacturing costs were a big problem. I can see the same thing happening here.
You can get Drum Tune Pro on your phone and have your presets saved for your kit(s) for about £8. I swear by it.
Obviously you need a drummer that changes their heads regularly and can tune their drums. As rare as a bassist that can walk upright I know!
For recording get a Ludwig 400/402 and a few lug locks for the 7/8 and 4/5 o'clock position.
Arbiter single lug tuning was a gimmick, never really worked (I had a set of Arbiter Flats at one point). Yes, lots of tuning tools out there, but all of them still require a substantial amount of time to get the head tuned. This Dialtune thing seems to be a huge time saver, if it works. Lug locks are great idea once the head settles (stops stretching). It would be excellent if this Dialtune system could be installed on an LM402, without affecting the tone/resonance. Me thinks not.
@@twtobin941 I had a set of the Arbiter Maple AT. Changing heads and tuning was easier that the dialtune other than the bass drum which was a bit awkward. Definitely gimmicky!
The Arbiter single tune kits came from the 70s, cool idea but it's trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
I dread to think how much this dialtune thing is going to cost!
Get one! Put it in the studio xD