L.A. Noire is one of the most grossly underrated games of all time. It's definitely in my top 10, which is saying a lot, because I play a lot of videogames.
it has sadly so much potential they didnt use but still absolutely great id love to see a follow up set in the 60s or some like that thats more interactive like rdr2
I would love to go back to the 1920s to the 50s just to experience it, to walk down the streets and feel what it was like 3 decades that changed the world, to see stars long past like Marilyn who would be 97 yet died 61 years ago
@@Wavecheckfoo Anywhere outside of the south and your good. Los Angeles has a segregation policy but the people were all liberal northerners, same as Florida. The North was completely open, you'd be okay.
Great video, earned my subscription. I personally think L.A. Noire is the most ambitious game ever made, even more considering it ran on 7th gen hardware. After more than 10 years no other game comes close to this level of accuracy on portraying a real place and with such an innovative gameplay and interesting, mature plot and characters. It doesn't feel like you're playing a game really, it's masterful storytelling that takes it one step further. Easily on my top 5 games ever.
For real. It's a shame Team Bondi went under after this. They put in a lot of hard work and created a gem, just for it to flop and go unnoticed and unappreciated. I'm still astonished that this game doesn't get more recognition.
@@Memegod767hthdhdhwould’ve been cool if Team Bondi was bought by Sony interactive to be a part of their exclusives. Since Sony loves their story-based games.
I completely disagree with you on the need for LA Noire to be set at night. Visually, the game has a lot more in common with movies like Chinatown and LA Confidential and those movies are very brightly lit and have a lot of it set during the day. Noir doesn't need to be set during the night just to have the tone.
This was a fantastic review of a game that made technological breakthroughs for its time. I have to agree with a lot of the commenters here: the producers built an incredible world that you can’t do anything in. A living, breathing city teeming with life, corruption and bountiful sunshine, but the absence of mini games, shops, or general earthly delights can turn this world bland on multiple replays.
One of my all time favourite games ever but one area that they clearly dropped the ball was to completely leave out Bunker Hill avenue and it’s Victorian Mansions. Plenty of photographs are in circulation of the castle, the salt box etc, indeed bunker hill in total was the biggest flaw from its inaccurate topography to its missing buildings (The Melrose, Zelda, Alta Vista etc). With all that said LA Noire was very close to a masterpiece and a game that is still a pleasure to play even in 2024
Well done, I’ve always wondered how a sequel would be set in 1979 NYC right between the crime world of the 1970s into the 1980s, got stories such as the Frank Lucas and dope and all the civil unrest of the time. Could go well with the Taxi Driver aesthetic too with the dark moody jazzy NYC world in the background
I stated something similar in a post on another video on LA Noire. There should be 3 direct titular games. The 2nd should be in the mid 1960s(Vietnam conflict protests, Left wing activism, Civil Rights movement, Watts riots), and the 3rd during 1992 featuring a Black detective(Crack cocaine epidemic. Gang violence. Rodney King riots.). A spin off should be based in 1970s New York cop in the Organized crime unit, fighting various crime syndicates(Mob, Black groups, Latin groups, Irish and Triads.). The 1977 New York blackout should be featured along with the government corruption, mass heroin addiction, the son of Sam murderer, and social break down of the decade in the city.
@@thankusa9795 Why? A Black detective would add a great dynamic to the game's plot especially if there was a sequel set in the lat 1980s and/or early 1990s, with the various social and political factors that would come into play, especially with the effects of the crack cocaine trade, gang violence, corruption and the Rodney King riots.
@@thankusa9795 Woke has nothing to do with it. The facts and conditions of the time do. And a prominent dynamic would be introduced by such a character, especially with the LAPD's notorious history and how the department and city has changed and what has stayed the same since Detective Phelps time until later and his legacy upon the department.
To see Team Bondi accomplish such a fantastic feat of recreating 1940s LA, I wonder how they could even tackle 1930s Shanghai street by street and more condensed. It would be nice to see some Easter eggs in there like the future site of the battle of the Sihang Warehouse
I think some of your criticisms are simply the result of doing an accurate version of LA, not just in look but in feel. The streets do feel oddly deserted and sparsely populated. People frequently walk around saying weird things. It's a deeply lonely city, something I think La La Land also captures perfectly.
I mean it's absolutely nothing like the late 1940s in Hollywood considering 4-10 cars were light beige/gray, a color that is inconsistent. I know that seems like a background fact, but it really affects the look of a city and is by far the most important feature in any city. Strange how there are no vehicles under 1937 really. I hate the dirty look of the city in the game, which was pristine at the time (the great depression hardly affected any major city).
You know what, for all of the flaws described in this game. I love it all just the same. Being able to capture 1940s Los Angeles, Ca is no easy feat. I have now lived here close to L.A. for nearly 20 years and L.A. has a lot of space that looks like a waste land. Remember that aside from all of the suburbs you see and small towns and cities, its one big desert.
Crazy. I thought UA-cam was bugging when it showed this video only had 700 views. This video deserves way more than that. It is so well done. Keep it up man, you earned a new subscriber.
Finally getting caught up on UA-cam vids I've missed, really great job on this man! It's definitely a very interesting game that felt both incredibly well crafted, but all over the place story and plot-wise. Great deep dive though, more like this!
0:45 ..."and sin"...showes a scene with Barbara Stanwyck. One of the most professional and disciplined actresses of that era. She had an image of big professioanlity without allures.
The map needed more places to be, things to do, you add in a bowling mini game, the chance to buy food and drink even tobacco, to be Cole Phelps freely living, maybe even off duty after a case give me the opportunity to do something as Cole for the evening. Had I been able to remake LA Noire, or remaster it, I'd have put the time in to fill the city, and make the nighttime better.
Bravo, what a wonderfull video you made; outstanding editing & insights. Yes, the constant driving through drab neighborhoods may have been a compromise, as you mention. But, that's the way driving through L.A. always was. One highlight was the great radio stations you could hear in a civilian car. And the radio announcers saying, "Loss Ain-gull-eez," just like Mayor Sam.
Wow - this was brilliant! The history is fascinating and I feel that I've learned so much. As an incredibly childlike and naïve 20 something that is trying to make a career in entertainment, this was especially eye opening for me. Thank you for making this. Maybe my film school should've shown more noir films... perhaps I would've been more well-rounded in terms of my outlook on life because of it. I am subscribed now and I will be sharing this around to my friends.
Thanks dude! As a film grad myself I know how you feel, a lot of schools show surprisingly few (if any) noir films. Or vintage movies period. But I'm glad I could open that door to them a little bit for you. Cheers.
That game as a "Phillip Marlowe"-P.I. game would have been much better. The plot around detective Phelps was quite dull...But at the moment they switched the maincharacter to the private investigator, the story got a boost.
What a good point about the difference between the mood the menu sets and the actual game itself. It makes sense to work during the day but sure kills the mood.
i feel like working during the day actually captures it better. You didnt see the dark gritty moments youre there to figure them out. that juxtaposition between what you know happened and what you see, the menu and the game is actually super cool
You are the only American I've ever heard refer to this developer with the correct pronunciation of their name (Bondi = Bon-die) Bravo. That alone tells me you cared when you put this together. Subbed as soon as I heard this. Solid, solid work. Thanks. p.s. LOVE this game. Edited to note the great use of chapter titles in the style of the game's case title cards. It's the little things.
This video was first recommended to me a few weeks ago. Watching it now for the second time. And I think I've just realised what made it so addictive to me - must be the noir tone of the presentation. The way "Behind Locked Doors" part begins (at 21:50 mark) with the narrator stating that "[the in-door areas] *mostly* make up for the monotony of the overworld" - there is something very noir about it to me. Highly enjoyable content, as is the game. Thank you for putting your heart into it! P.S. A well-known interesting tidbit is that one of L.A. Noire sources of inspiration seems to be L.A. Quartet, a sequence of four crime fiction novels, by James Ellroy. P.P.S. Would love something similar on Mafia 2.
*the only video game set in the 1940s. I don't even count Mafia 1-2 because they just did not do it well at all. For some reason Mafia 2 missed the idea of the mid 1930s and only implemented early 1930s models mixed with 1940-1941 models randomly thrown in. Then you have Mafia 1 (the remake), with it's onslaught of inaccuracies and purposefully old feel they applied to it. No metallic paint option which implies that research was scarce on Automobiles. I despise, DESPISE how the beginning in 1930 is represented by "a car my mother could have bought 20 years ago.", a Model A esk taxi, and a german roadster... Nevermind the 45 Sedan companies from Buick to Studebaker, Nash, Marmon, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chevrolet, Gardner, Hudson, and Paige and really just too many to count. They really tried to make the message of "oh, this is a pre good car era, there was only jalopies before 1930."
@WitchKing-Of-Angmar I found it odd that in Mafia 1 in 1935 everyone had 1920s looking cars and in 1938 it was the same except for there being a lot of Chrysler Airflows for some reason
@@elementalb3m957 True, except in 1935 in Real life, most automobiles are going to be 1934 1933 1932 1931 1930 models. In this game is was....fairly realistic on the topic of what car models there were, but they are missing 90% of the rest of the culture of the era from car color, to types. Lacking any 1920s cars in the game (1920e automobiles had a cleaner fender design, bigger wheels, and more shapely plain bodies with a lot of paint effort.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar I think it's relatively realistic for there to be no cars older than 1932 in LA Noire because I think a lot of cars were donated or claimed by the government to be scrapped for the war effort
@@elementalb3m957 That seems likely, except I've seen over 600 home movies from the 1940s (1940-1949) and always see an abundance of car years. It was the 1920-1927 cars that were scrapped in war effort, you'll see hardly any early 1920s automobiles left on Earth because of those ba§tards that burned them all for metal in the early 1930s. La Noire needs more contrast anyway, since there automobiles are a little lackluster in the graphics department so everything has a weird sickly iridescence to it almost plasticy looking, and lacks much definition. Car colors are pretty accurate though, but also not really, however the traffic has pretty accurate car colors.
I've played a lot of video games from 1981 to now, and this has a lot going on. It still stands up today to me. It's got good quality and the game play is unique. That makes it replayable.
Just found this tonight ! I agree with what someone else said, you definitely deserve more views for the story telling and time you put into making this video.
Great introspective video. Very impressed by the depth of the analysis. Enjoyed it immensely. In many respects the development and evolvement of the LAPD matches the game. Whenever I see the cutscenes, I am reminded of LA Confidential which takes place in roughly the same period.
Despite all the issues. Imagine if they produced L.A. Noire today in 2022. Much of the issues would be cleared up by this point. The tech has matured since 2011. The graphics would be better. They could even extend the game to other times in the cities history. 47 L.A. Noir 50 L.A. golden age. 60s - 70s L.A. During the civil rights movements 80s-90s The social unrest that would lead to the LA Riots of 92. So much potential
@@automation7295 You don't need the same team or company to make a similar game. Just someone willing to take the time to make something similar and there is so much the city of Angel's has to tell
Considering its tortured development L.A. Noire really captured a vibe and turned out better than it had any right to be. Great companion piece to Mad Men in a lot of ways.
You have inspired me to obtain this game and play it. I am intrigued by your description of the accuracy of the 1947 Los Angeles and the ability to "go anywhere" in it. It is difficult to get a version of this game to play on my MAC, but I found a friend who will loan me his station and program. I look forward to delving into the streets of old L.A. I also enjoyed the movie The 13th Floor which deals with a Simulcrum of Los Angeles in 1937.
Dear Friend, You've earned my subscription, I've watched this like many others with delight! T'was tranquil, informative and classy with a style of lecture that one would get at a elite movie school class taught by an esteemed professor! Bravo bravo. I hope to see you explore more interior designs and city's designs such as this era. The beautiful lost era of the film Noire days. Thank you & Good night!
I really enjoyed the video. Your research was so thorough and informative. I was just wondering if you know of any documentaries that focus on LA in the 1940s?
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm not sure if they have a dedicated video about the 40's, but KCET's "Lost LA" is a really well produced and extensive docu series about all things historical Los Angeles, it's well worth checking out if you're interested.
Great video! Great commentary! 👍🏾 reminds me of that Los Angeles Plays Itself video essay/documentary. On a side note, I'd love to use my GTA 5/Back to the Future mod on this game 😂
I actually liked the bright day setting as the backdrop for most cases. It juxtaposed sunny Californian vibe and gruesome nature of crime and vice in the city very well.
You deserve more views sir. Youve done great work here, I hope you keep at it when you have the time I would love to see more, and I would love to see your channel become bigger as I think you have the potential to reach far more people than you already have, keep going and keep testing the algorithm bro. You. Have. What. It. Takes.
The soullessness of the game world _accurately_ reflects the soullessness of Los Angeles. And, no, you _wouldn't_ find a lot of Chinese people in China Town in the 1940s because they would have been removed during the yellow peril era fifty years before. Some might have worked there, but they weren't allowed to _live_ there.
Man you deserve more subscribers and attention. First video I've seen and it's so well done, that when I clicked on the channel to subscribe I expected you to have a million views. But with content like this youll get there. Great stuff man.
As a native Angelino, while it's fun to play in GTA 5's stylized SoCal of the present day, it's just as much fun to go back in time and play in yesteryear. I enjoyed being able to see familiar landmarks where they ought to be, and be able to navigate by them (although some I had hoped to be there, that should have been, weren't). In a lot of points it felt like you were playing a playable version of the film, "L.A. Confidential", what with the underlying police corruption, drug trafficking, sex scandals and even a tall, lanky Irish police chief full of cliché "boyo" phrases who I fully expected to be the Big Bad (but wasn't).
LA NOIRE more people need to go back to and truly explore it like RDR2 so many left because of rockstar neglecting the online mode cause they make more profit off of GTA online which they are currently literally RUINING.
I feel like this game could be fixed with mods tbh. or just one big DLC to make the map feel more alive. not a remake pls do n ot remake this game I dont want it i dont was la noire 2 i just would like to see this game thats already been made updated
I definitely enjoyed cloudy days and night time, just not the sun beating overhead. I don't like sunny days irl but I get that LA is sunny most of the time. But the city looks really good near sunset or sunrise or when it's cloudy or rainy or night time.
That's the LA County Art Museum. It's actually the same area where you do the hedgemaze. The museum building is actually open, there's just nothing in the campaign that incentivizes you to go inside.
@@Ryan-Petre Ah, I didn't know that it can be visited. I'm sorry to miss it. I entered as many location interiors as I could, I shot tons of pictures about the interior and exterior details. :) I really handled the map grid as a time machine tour.
I can agree with your point on the Open world aspect. The thing about it though. For me at least. This game gets a pass for that. Mostly because like you said The main focus isn't the open world. More so the story ends scenes.
Driving was so important in the game, but they screwed that up. I played Mafia more than 20 years ago and I loved the cars. The game was set almost 2 decades earlier, but that doesn't matter. The cars felt very good and realsitic. They had weight, you heard and felt the engine and they were shiny. Cars in LA noire were almost wieghtless and the steering felt much too fast. It didn't fel like you were driving real cars at all. So the whole driving part became uninteresting and it didn't matter which car you drove.
27:09 Well, that is not really bad. Its just the mass-production-industry. A bottle is a bottle. A spoon is a spoon. Massproduced in a factory and counted by millions...So they did this quite right.
This was such a great video, but one thing that I personally think would improve the videos is the removal of acknowledging that videos are part of a series of even videos at all. I think a lot of things that you splice into sections of your scripts like telling us that “similar videos are soon to come” and that we should “like and subscribe for similar content” would work much better during a more off the cuff end-card that’s very clearly separated from the main video. Without that stuff, I know for certain that I’d be so much more sucked into your videos and immersed. Your scripts are beautifully written and have so much potential, on top of all that you’ve already done.
Thanks man. For the record I agree. I've decided to drop the idea of a unified series, as well as the whole "like, comment, subscribe" routine. Partially cuz it's cliche, and partially because I don't have a good track record of actually delivering on said promised "new videos" lol
They basically watched LA Confidential and loved it! The characters are almost cut out from the film pretty much. Obviously they're (Phelps and co.) composites and not quite as dark as the LA Confidential coppers though! 🙂 Right down the Irish police commissioner boss! I love the look and feel of the game, it's very much a satisfying time-warp into the Los Angeles of the 1940s & 50s...
I live literally 10 min drive away from teen location where Elizabeth short aka black dahlias body’s was located which is in south central LA..the fact I can ride pass by the location where the body was found is jus spine chillin for me every time I do when I make my way to dennys restaurant that is near by….I was shockingly stunned and low key dissipoinhted when I asked the person that lives in the house where the body was found which is basically on the man’s property his front lawn didn’t know the history of of the exact spot on his property…if only the streets and walls can talk around here I would be amazed learning new shit about my dark but bright city I live in
Chinatown and L.A. Confidential are both great movies that were direct inspirations to L.A. Noire. Same with The Naked City, Out of the Past, Sweet Smell of Success, and The Third Man. I would also highly recommend the books in the L.A. Quartet by James Ellroy. They are some of the best hardboiled fiction out there on top of being set in the exact time period and inspiring this game.
I’d love to see Cole Phelps as an FTO for an overly optimistic, naive rookie. Showing him the ropes and the realities of life as a cop in 1950s or 1960s LA
There is a cut scene (newspaper flashback) of Sheldon at school. It is the Doheney Library at the Univ. So. Calif. I have never found that location in free roam. Does anyone know if that's possible?
idk the names but I can recommend some "The Big Sleep" (1946) "Double Indemnity" (1944) "The Naked City" (1948) - this one is set in NYC, the others are set in LA
@@mikeisthelunawolf also I've noticed that some missions have the title of movies, such as that Naked City that I mentioned and I've seen "Fallen Idol" (1948) too, which is a mission with the same name in the game. Also Chinatown (1974) is also a movie that could have inspired L.A. Noire although not noir.
1947 was the year that really showcased how sharp the teeth of Los Angeles can be in the shadows.
And later in the 80s and 90s too when the Crack epidemic hit and the Crips and Bloods fought eachother
L.A. Noire is one of the most grossly underrated games of all time. It's definitely in my top 10, which is saying a lot, because I play a lot of videogames.
it has sadly so much potential they didnt use but still absolutely great
id love to see a follow up set in the 60s or some like that thats more interactive like rdr2
meh game with meh writing and contrived plots
I would love to go back to the 1920s to the 50s just to experience it, to walk down the streets and feel what it was like 3 decades that changed the world, to see stars long past like Marilyn who would be 97 yet died 61 years ago
To be fair if you really wanna experience the craziest three decades of changes you're probably born at the right time
Play mafia 1 it takes place in the 20s and 30s
@@cuyxjrplays It takes place in 1930-1938 and has nothing to do with the 1920s.
I always think the same thing then remember I’m black…I think I’ll stay here bro 😂
@@Wavecheckfoo Anywhere outside of the south and your good. Los Angeles has a segregation policy but the people were all liberal northerners, same as Florida. The North was completely open, you'd be okay.
This needs more views, its really well made. Well done.
Thank you, my friend.
This game made me drive around LA & find the landmarks in real life. A masterpiece thank you rockstar.
A year later I found this game is a masterpiece replaying it recently I love how this game introduces LA to me as a person that doesn’t grow up in US
Great video, earned my subscription. I personally think L.A. Noire is the most ambitious game ever made, even more considering it ran on 7th gen hardware.
After more than 10 years no other game comes close to this level of accuracy on portraying a real place and with such an innovative gameplay and interesting, mature plot and characters. It doesn't feel like you're playing a game really, it's masterful storytelling that takes it one step further. Easily on my top 5 games ever.
Daggerfall and Red Dead Redemption 2 are far more ambitious
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU SIR!
For real. It's a shame Team Bondi went under after this. They put in a lot of hard work and created a gem, just for it to flop and go unnoticed and unappreciated. I'm still astonished that this game doesn't get more recognition.
@@Memegod767hthdhdhwould’ve been cool if Team Bondi was bought by Sony interactive to be a part of their exclusives. Since Sony loves their story-based games.
I completely disagree with you on the need for LA Noire to be set at night. Visually, the game has a lot more in common with movies like Chinatown and LA Confidential and those movies are very brightly lit and have a lot of it set during the day. Noir doesn't need to be set during the night just to have the tone.
exactly, if anything is even more impressive what they achieved in broad day light, when it'd be much easier to half bake it and hide in the shadows
This was a fantastic review of a game that made technological breakthroughs for its time. I have to agree with a lot of the commenters here: the producers built an incredible world that you can’t do anything in. A living, breathing city teeming with life, corruption and bountiful sunshine, but the absence of mini games, shops, or general earthly delights can turn this world bland on multiple replays.
One of my all time favourite games ever but one area that they clearly dropped the ball was to completely leave out Bunker Hill avenue and it’s Victorian Mansions. Plenty of photographs are in circulation of the castle, the salt box etc, indeed bunker hill in total was the biggest flaw from its inaccurate topography to its missing buildings (The Melrose, Zelda, Alta Vista etc). With all that said LA Noire was very close to a masterpiece and a game that is still a pleasure to play even in 2024
Well done, I’ve always wondered how a sequel would be set in 1979 NYC right between the crime world of the 1970s into the 1980s, got stories such as the Frank Lucas and dope and all the civil unrest of the time. Could go well with the Taxi Driver aesthetic too with the dark moody jazzy NYC world in the background
I stated something similar in a post on another video on LA Noire. There should be 3 direct titular games. The 2nd should be in the mid 1960s(Vietnam conflict protests, Left wing activism, Civil Rights movement, Watts riots), and the 3rd during 1992 featuring a Black detective(Crack cocaine epidemic. Gang violence. Rodney King riots.).
A spin off should be based in 1970s New York cop in the Organized crime unit, fighting various crime syndicates(Mob, Black groups, Latin groups, Irish and Triads.). The 1977 New York blackout should be featured along with the government corruption, mass heroin addiction, the son of Sam murderer, and social break down of the decade in the city.
@@chitownmohell no no black detective ☠️
@@thankusa9795 Why? A Black detective would add a great dynamic to the game's plot especially if there was a sequel set in the lat 1980s and/or early 1990s, with the various social and political factors that would come into play, especially with the effects of the crack cocaine trade, gang violence, corruption and the Rodney King riots.
@@chitownmo its supposed to be la noire not la woke
@@thankusa9795 Woke has nothing to do with it. The facts and conditions of the time do. And a prominent dynamic would be introduced by such a character, especially with the LAPD's notorious history and how the department and city has changed and what has stayed the same since Detective Phelps time until later and his legacy upon the department.
the landscape and designing is why i adore la noire. im a art deco freak so i used to just walk or drive for hours to look at the architecture.
To see Team Bondi accomplish such a fantastic feat of recreating 1940s LA, I wonder how they could even tackle 1930s Shanghai street by street and more condensed. It would be nice to see some Easter eggs in there like the future site of the battle of the Sihang Warehouse
What?
@@bosto23The remnants of Team Bondi was developing a similar type of game but in 30s Shanghai.
@@alixon5009 oh ok
I love the time it takes to make this game realistic and historically accurate... somewhat. Imagine if they did San Francisco or New York?
GTA did both
I think some of your criticisms are simply the result of doing an accurate version of LA, not just in look but in feel. The streets do feel oddly deserted and sparsely populated. People frequently walk around saying weird things. It's a deeply lonely city, something I think La La Land also captures perfectly.
I mean it's absolutely nothing like the late 1940s in Hollywood considering 4-10 cars were light beige/gray, a color that is inconsistent. I know that seems like a background fact, but it really affects the look of a city and is by far the most important feature in any city. Strange how there are no vehicles under 1937 really.
I hate the dirty look of the city in the game, which was pristine at the time (the great depression hardly affected any major city).
awesome and creative final title card.
You know what, for all of the flaws described in this game. I love it all just the same. Being able to capture 1940s Los Angeles, Ca is no easy feat. I have now lived here close to L.A. for nearly 20 years and L.A. has a lot of space that looks like a waste land. Remember that aside from all of the suburbs you see and small towns and cities, its one big desert.
Crazy. I thought UA-cam was bugging when it showed this video only had 700 views. This video deserves way more than that. It is so well done. Keep it up man, you earned a new subscriber.
Thanks!
great video, and finally an youtuber that actually remembered to link videos that he mentioned.
Finally getting caught up on UA-cam vids I've missed, really great job on this man! It's definitely a very interesting game that felt both incredibly well crafted, but all over the place story and plot-wise. Great deep dive though, more like this!
Thanks dude!
If any game deserved a prequel/sequel from Rockstar, it’ll be LA Noire
0:45 ..."and sin"...showes a scene with Barbara Stanwyck. One of the most professional and disciplined actresses of that era. She had an image of big professioanlity without allures.
The map needed more places to be, things to do, you add in a bowling mini game, the chance to buy food and drink even tobacco, to be Cole Phelps freely living, maybe even off duty after a case give me the opportunity to do something as Cole for the evening. Had I been able to remake LA Noire, or remaster it, I'd have put the time in to fill the city, and make the nighttime better.
I agree I’m halfway through I’ve seen cole’s wife once in the intro cutscene
Amazing 40 minutes i spent, this should be seen by millions, subbed
Bravo, what a wonderfull video you made; outstanding editing & insights. Yes, the constant driving through drab neighborhoods may have been a compromise, as you mention. But, that's the way driving through L.A. always was. One highlight was the great radio stations you could hear in a civilian car. And the radio announcers saying, "Loss Ain-gull-eez," just like Mayor Sam.
Wow - this was brilliant! The history is fascinating and I feel that I've learned so much.
As an incredibly childlike and naïve 20 something that is trying to make a career in entertainment, this was especially eye opening for me. Thank you for making this. Maybe my film school should've shown more noir films... perhaps I would've been more well-rounded in terms of my outlook on life because of it. I am subscribed now and I will be sharing this around to my friends.
Thanks dude! As a film grad myself I know how you feel, a lot of schools show surprisingly few (if any) noir films. Or vintage movies period. But I'm glad I could open that door to them a little bit for you. Cheers.
Just found your channel and I wonder why this video doesn't have a million views. Love it dude
That game as a "Phillip Marlowe"-P.I. game would have been much better. The plot around detective Phelps was quite dull...But at the moment they switched the maincharacter to the private investigator, the story got a boost.
What a good point about the difference between the mood the menu sets and the actual game itself. It makes sense to work during the day but sure kills the mood.
i feel like working during the day actually captures it better. You didnt see the dark gritty moments youre there to figure them out. that juxtaposition between what you know happened and what you see, the menu and the game is actually super cool
@@asdfgidji879 Hey that's a good way of looking at it. That's cool too.
You are the only American I've ever heard refer to this developer with the correct pronunciation of their name (Bondi = Bon-die) Bravo. That alone tells me you cared when you put this together. Subbed as soon as I heard this. Solid, solid work. Thanks. p.s. LOVE this game. Edited to note the great use of chapter titles in the style of the game's case title cards. It's the little things.
I live in Los Angeles. I love L.A. Noire.
L.A. is a beautiful weather and many people friendly.
Phenomenal work! The care and thought you put into this video is evident.
The “created by Ryan Petre” in the games font was a nice touch
This video was first recommended to me a few weeks ago. Watching it now for the second time. And I think I've just realised what made it so addictive to me - must be the noir tone of the presentation. The way "Behind Locked Doors" part begins (at 21:50 mark) with the narrator stating that "[the in-door areas] *mostly* make up for the monotony of the overworld" - there is something very noir about it to me.
Highly enjoyable content, as is the game. Thank you for putting your heart into it!
P.S. A well-known interesting tidbit is that one of L.A. Noire sources of inspiration seems to be L.A. Quartet, a sequence of four crime fiction novels, by James Ellroy.
P.P.S. Would love something similar on Mafia 2.
One of the best games ever made great storytelling great setting
LA noire is one of the best video game depictions of a real life city in 1940s America and especially the city of LA at that time
*the only video game set in the 1940s. I don't even count Mafia 1-2 because they just did not do it well at all. For some reason Mafia 2 missed the idea of the mid 1930s and only implemented early 1930s models mixed with 1940-1941 models randomly thrown in. Then you have Mafia 1 (the remake), with it's onslaught of inaccuracies and purposefully old feel they applied to it. No metallic paint option which implies that research was scarce on Automobiles. I despise, DESPISE how the beginning in 1930 is represented by "a car my mother could have bought 20 years ago.", a Model A esk taxi, and a german roadster... Nevermind the 45 Sedan companies from Buick to Studebaker, Nash, Marmon, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, Lincoln, Chevrolet, Gardner, Hudson, and Paige and really just too many to count. They really tried to make the message of "oh, this is a pre good car era, there was only jalopies before 1930."
@WitchKing-Of-Angmar I found it odd that in Mafia 1 in 1935 everyone had 1920s looking cars and in 1938 it was the same except for there being a lot of Chrysler Airflows for some reason
@@elementalb3m957 True, except in 1935 in Real life, most automobiles are going to be 1934 1933 1932 1931 1930 models. In this game is was....fairly realistic on the topic of what car models there were, but they are missing 90% of the rest of the culture of the era from car color, to types. Lacking any 1920s cars in the game (1920e automobiles had a cleaner fender design, bigger wheels, and more shapely plain bodies with a lot of paint effort.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar I think it's relatively realistic for there to be no cars older than 1932 in LA Noire because I think a lot of cars were donated or claimed by the government to be scrapped for the war effort
@@elementalb3m957 That seems likely, except I've seen over 600 home movies from the 1940s (1940-1949) and always see an abundance of car years. It was the 1920-1927 cars that were scrapped in war effort, you'll see hardly any early 1920s automobiles left on Earth because of those ba§tards that burned them all for metal in the early 1930s. La Noire needs more contrast anyway, since there automobiles are a little lackluster in the graphics department so everything has a weird sickly iridescence to it almost plasticy looking, and lacks much definition. Car colors are pretty accurate though, but also not really, however the traffic has pretty accurate car colors.
I've played a lot of video games from 1981 to now, and this has a lot going on. It still stands up today to me. It's got good quality and the game play is unique. That makes it replayable.
Just found this tonight ! I agree with what someone else said, you definitely deserve more views for the story telling and time you put into making this video.
I just watched this video and wow, great work man. This was relaxing
As an Angeleno.. your outro was fucking bars man; it really speaks to why this game hit hard for me
Great introspective video. Very impressed by the depth of the analysis. Enjoyed it immensely. In many respects the development and evolvement of the LAPD matches the game. Whenever I see the cutscenes, I am reminded of LA Confidential which takes place in roughly the same period.
this was the best analysis video i have seen in years
I remember my father in law who grew up in LA in the 40’s was very impressed with the accuracy of LAN. What an amazing effort.
Great game, I played the whole game in black and white to really hit those film noir vibes
Despite all the issues. Imagine if they produced L.A. Noire today in 2022.
Much of the issues would be cleared up by this point. The tech has matured since 2011.
The graphics would be better.
They could even extend the game to other times in the cities history.
47 L.A. Noir
50 L.A. golden age.
60s - 70s L.A. During the civil rights movements
80s-90s The social unrest that would lead to the LA Riots of 92.
So much potential
Team Bondi doesn't exist anymore, they went bankrupt and shut down, a new LA Noire will never happen unfortunately
@@automation7295 You don't need the same team or company to make a similar game. Just someone willing to take the time to make something similar and there is so much the city of Angel's has to tell
Wow, this should have so many more views. You did an amazing job on this. As good as any documentary I've watched about the game.
Considering its tortured development L.A. Noire really captured a vibe and turned out better than it had any right to be. Great companion piece to Mad Men in a lot of ways.
You have inspired me to obtain this game and play it. I am intrigued by your description of the accuracy of the 1947 Los Angeles and the ability to "go anywhere" in it. It is difficult to get a version of this game to play on my MAC, but I found a friend who will loan me his station and program. I look forward to delving into the streets of old L.A.
I also enjoyed the movie The 13th Floor which deals with a Simulcrum of Los Angeles in 1937.
Great stuff man!
Thanks dude!
a great retrospect- this is definitely
worth sharing!
Top tier content!
Thanks mate!
I've owned this game on steam since forever but only playing it now on the ps5 with the remastered edition. Great video and pretty valid points.
Dear Friend,
You've earned my subscription, I've watched this like many others with delight! T'was tranquil, informative and classy with a style of lecture that one would get at a elite movie school class taught by an esteemed professor! Bravo bravo.
I hope to see you explore more interior designs and city's designs such as this era. The beautiful lost era of the film Noire days.
Thank you & Good night!
I really enjoyed the video. Your research was so thorough and informative. I was just wondering if you know of any documentaries that focus on LA in the 1940s?
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I'm not sure if they have a dedicated video about the 40's, but KCET's "Lost LA" is a really well produced and extensive docu series about all things historical Los Angeles, it's well worth checking out if you're interested.
@@Ryan-Petre thank you!
Great video! Great commentary! 👍🏾 reminds me of that Los Angeles Plays Itself video essay/documentary.
On a side note, I'd love to use my GTA 5/Back to the Future mod on this game 😂
What a great game, still hope they make a sequel set in San Francisco or New York, strictly at night and with a black and white option.
Glad i got this vid on my recommended page
Such a great edited video! Really thought you would have much more subs than 4k….Guess you have one more👍
I actually liked the bright day setting as the backdrop for most cases. It juxtaposed sunny Californian vibe and gruesome nature of crime and vice in the city very well.
Amazing video
This is so good this deserves minimum 100 000 views, keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot bro!
You deserve more views sir. Youve done great work here, I hope you keep at it when you have the time I would love to see more, and I would love to see your channel become bigger as I think you have the potential to reach far more people than you already have, keep going and keep testing the algorithm bro. You. Have. What. It. Takes.
I really wish we could get a sequel to this series nyc would be perfect.
If we invent time machines I'm holidaying/vacationing to this time.
The soullessness of the game world _accurately_ reflects the soullessness of Los Angeles.
And, no, you _wouldn't_ find a lot of Chinese people in China Town in the 1940s because they would have been removed during the yellow peril era fifty years before. Some might have worked there, but they weren't allowed to _live_ there.
The city was extremely well populated at the time, do you know nothing?
Man you deserve more subscribers and attention. First video I've seen and it's so well done, that when I clicked on the channel to subscribe I expected you to have a million views. But with content like this youll get there. Great stuff man.
As a native Angelino, while it's fun to play in GTA 5's stylized SoCal of the present day, it's just as much fun to go back in time and play in yesteryear. I enjoyed being able to see familiar landmarks where they ought to be, and be able to navigate by them (although some I had hoped to be there, that should have been, weren't). In a lot of points it felt like you were playing a playable version of the film, "L.A. Confidential", what with the underlying police corruption, drug trafficking, sex scandals and even a tall, lanky Irish police chief full of cliché "boyo" phrases who I fully expected to be the Big Bad (but wasn't).
I hope you know that one film at around 5:10 maybe 5:07 , is a real color film from 1931.
Yeah, I'm talking about the 20's and 30's in that moment so I figured it made sense to show a clip from the 30's.
@@Ryan-Petre No no worries, I was talking about the importance that the film is a real color not colorized film from 1931.
The map is huge, no wonder it's recreation
LA NOIRE more people need to go back to and truly explore it like RDR2 so many left because of rockstar neglecting the online mode cause they make more profit off of GTA online which they are currently literally RUINING.
I feel like this game could be fixed with mods tbh. or just one big DLC to make the map feel more alive. not a remake pls do n ot remake this game I dont want it i dont was la noire 2 i just would like to see this game thats already been made updated
I definitely enjoyed cloudy days and night time, just not the sun beating overhead. I don't like sunny days irl but I get that LA is sunny most of the time. But the city looks really good near sunset or sunrise or when it's cloudy or rainy or night time.
Awesome! - What's this museum /painting gallery at 26:27? I don't remember this location at all after so many playthroughs...
That's the LA County Art Museum. It's actually the same area where you do the hedgemaze. The museum building is actually open, there's just nothing in the campaign that incentivizes you to go inside.
@@Ryan-Petre Ah, I didn't know that it can be visited. I'm sorry to miss it. I entered as many location interiors as I could, I shot tons of pictures about the interior and exterior details. :) I really handled the map grid as a time machine tour.
Great material congrats
Wow, this video is great.
I can agree with your point on the Open world aspect.
The thing about it though. For me at least. This game gets a pass for that. Mostly because like you said The main focus isn't the open world. More so the story ends scenes.
Subscribed just based on the introductory monologue. That's all you needed to hook me.
Driving was so important in the game, but they screwed that up. I played Mafia more than 20 years ago and I loved the cars. The game was set almost 2 decades earlier, but that doesn't matter. The cars felt very good and realsitic. They had weight, you heard and felt the engine and they were shiny. Cars in LA noire were almost wieghtless and the steering felt much too fast. It didn't fel like you were driving real cars at all. So the whole driving part became uninteresting and it didn't matter which car you drove.
27:09 Well, that is not really bad. Its just the mass-production-industry. A bottle is a bottle. A spoon is a spoon. Massproduced in a factory and counted by millions...So they did this quite right.
Excellent video! Like damn. Really good
Whats the movie called at 35:01?
Metropolis (1927)
One of my favourite games. It was brilliantly done. Had it on the Xbox 360 and bought it again when it was updated for the Xbox 1
This was such a great video, but one thing that I personally think would improve the videos is the removal of acknowledging that videos are part of a series of even videos at all. I think a lot of things that you splice into sections of your scripts like telling us that “similar videos are soon to come” and that we should “like and subscribe for similar content” would work much better during a more off the cuff end-card that’s very clearly separated from the main video. Without that stuff, I know for certain that I’d be so much more sucked into your videos and immersed. Your scripts are beautifully written and have so much potential, on top of all that you’ve already done.
Thanks man. For the record I agree. I've decided to drop the idea of a unified series, as well as the whole "like, comment, subscribe" routine. Partially cuz it's cliche, and partially because I don't have a good track record of actually delivering on said promised "new videos" lol
They basically watched LA Confidential and loved it! The characters are almost cut out from the film pretty much. Obviously they're (Phelps and co.) composites and not quite as dark as the LA Confidential coppers though! 🙂
Right down the Irish police commissioner boss!
I love the look and feel of the game, it's very much a satisfying time-warp into the Los Angeles of the 1940s & 50s...
I live literally 10 min drive away from teen location where Elizabeth short aka black dahlias body’s was located which is in south central LA..the fact I can ride pass by the location where the body was found is jus spine chillin for me every time I do when I make my way to dennys restaurant that is near by….I was shockingly stunned and low key dissipoinhted when I asked the person that lives in the house where the body was found which is basically on the man’s property his front lawn didn’t know the history of of the exact spot on his property…if only the streets and walls can talk around here I would be amazed learning new shit about my dark but bright city I live in
good work, subbed
What movies were used for the film noire clips? I want to watch more and could use some suggestions
Chinatown and L.A. Confidential are both great movies that were direct inspirations to L.A. Noire. Same with The Naked City, Out of the Past, Sweet Smell of Success, and The Third Man.
I would also highly recommend the books in the L.A. Quartet by James Ellroy. They are some of the best hardboiled fiction out there on top of being set in the exact time period and inspiring this game.
@@mememachine-386 thanks!
I’d love to see Cole Phelps as an FTO for an overly optimistic, naive rookie. Showing him the ropes and the realities of life as a cop in 1950s or 1960s LA
the artificiality fits very well for los angeles
I'm playing this for the first time on x360, game still looks good AF and it's a vibe fr, dam I miss this rockstar lol
Would have been nice if you mention some of the streets that the game showed.
There is a cut scene (newspaper flashback) of Sheldon at school. It is the Doheney Library at the Univ. So. Calif. I have never found that location in free roam. Does anyone know if that's possible?
Imsanely umderrated..here when 37k and 4,05k subs
Its interesting, they recreated a whole historical city but had such a limited game made out of it. This scenario screamed for a GTA-game.
Can you name all the noir films you putted here?
I would love to watch them.
And I only watched very few!
idk the names but I can recommend some
"The Big Sleep" (1946)
"Double Indemnity" (1944)
"The Naked City" (1948) - this one is set in NYC, the others are set in LA
@@gouvass I saw the first two. Gonna check Naked City. Thanks
@@mikeisthelunawolf also I've noticed that some missions have the title of movies, such as that Naked City that I mentioned and I've seen "Fallen Idol" (1948) too, which is a mission with the same name in the game.
Also Chinatown (1974) is also a movie that could have inspired L.A. Noire although not noir.
I was born in the wrong era
13:38joke was so bad he had to pause XD
It was an interesting video, but the "cinematic" framerate was constantly in the way of making the viewing actually enjoyable...
Why do people keep saying “bigly” like it’s an actual word lol?
Should have cast 70’s Robert Duvall