i have just sung with chernov, and his voice is not the biggest, but one of the most wonderful with lots and lots of colours! Vladimir is also one of the nicest persons I've ever met!
Chernov and Domingo in this scene are compelling and tragic and heroic. Simply wonderful. Chernov's "Simon Boccanegra" is also wonderful. Truly. That Domingo still can produce his plangent, allotrope, dark platinum voice at this age is still a delicious mystery. And a treasure.
A todos los que opináis que Domingo está al límite en los agudos, pensad en la edad que tenía en 1996 y en cuantos tenores de su cuerda y con su carrera a cuestas estarían cantando este rol con dicha edad, pocos, Domingo da como siempre lo mejor de sí y como casi siempre convence.
Salva Myl Tenía 54 años. A esa edad había tenores q le dan 40 vueltas. Ya está bien de tanto marketing y de q la gente por ese motivo vea a un tenor griton, monocorde y voz engolada lo traten como a un dios por todo lo anteriormente expuesto. Y ahora de baritono mejor ni hablamos...
Chernov certainly looks like Harvey Keitel in this excerpt. I heard and saw Chernov live many times and never noticed this resemblance before. Quite startling. I guess it's one of those things that you can only get UA-cam. Domingo is unbelievably good here. This must his peak.
Chernov is a fascinating figure. In the Met production of Stiffelio he looks almost exactly like Sherrill Milnes. As for Domingo, I think he's actually a little past his prime here, although he still provides a phenomenal performance. He had more power in the late 70s and 80s
@@commandert5 What was the greatest change the world had to deal with when the Soviet union fell? At the time I said, it released the baritones. All at once the best operatic baritones all seemed to be Russians. Sergei Lieferkus, Dimitri Hvorostovsky and Chernov. No one in the West had much knowledge of any of them but all at once Chernov was the principal Verdi baritone at the Met, I heard Leiferkus as Prince Igor in San Francisco and Hvorovstovsky became a media star like Pavarotti. Leiferkus had the least impressive voice but was absolutely great on stage. Chernov here is also a sensational actor. I never saw Hovorovtosky live. But if you tell me he acted as well as he sang, I'm prepared to believe you. I don't know about all Russian singers but it seems as if they prepare their their opera singer very well. I heard Chernov several times at SF Opera. He was very good but his voice wasn't completely settled. His top was a bit shaky. But he moved over to the Met and when I heard him on TV and records he had brought it under control. Then he seemed to disappear. In the old days of the Met Auditions they used to have age categories. Tenors, as I remember could only compete until they were 25. baritones had until they were 28 and basses could wait until they were 32. I 'm a bass so I got to auditioned when I had become 32. It was still a little to early for me. I never really sang properly until I was 65. This gave me only a few years when I was any good. I think baritones need more time. Certainly basses do. Bjorling was the best tenor on earth when he was 24 but Wizell, Chernov and Zancanagro all appeared at SF Opera in big roles before they were quite ready. All three had techniques not quite completed and settled. What was the greatest change in the world when the Soviet Union fell?
Domingo nunca negó que él estudió piano y dirección orquestal mas no canto, que su instrumento vocal es pura naturalidad y pasión. Su técnica realmente no es la mejor y el hecho de que llegó a la tesitura de tenor siendo inicialmente barítono es algo difícil de explicar, lo cierto es que pudo cantar papeles de lírico con cierto encanto y ligero con dificultad, por eso lo dejó pronto. Obviamente por su voz, el dramático le vino mejor. Que es engolado es cierto, pero esas fallas las tapa magistralmente gracias a su facilidad para actuar y hacer creíble cada papel en el que incursionaba, además de que su comprensión de la pasión musical hacen que al menos por un momento olvidemos el purismo de la técnica. Al menos yo prefiero oírlo a él en cualquier papel antes que a ciertos aburridos que mejor no los menciono para no ocasionar una polémica. Hay extrañezas de la naturaleza que no se pueden explicar y una de ellas es cómo podía cantar con esa edad esos papeles y transportar al espectador a la época, situación y momento de la historia. Gracias Plácido.
I'm not a fan of Domingo by any means, but my gosh does he characterise Don Alvaro well in this section. I wish he'd sung '...sulla terra...' in one long line with the phrase before it though. Chernov is incredible at acting, a good voice too... the drama comes first with these artists.
Maestro Verdi said Opera is MUSIC DRAMA! "without drama" we can't call IT opera yes you guys rigth it can't be best version of duet at first Domingo isn't dramatic tenor but good actorand Chernov's voice is dark but beautiful(u americans said) I hope so people just listen and enjoy ....
Chernov sings Don Carlo in such a way I can't describe, it is absolutely riveting...Domingo is not much to listen to, but I rather like his believable acting.
Seriously no one noticed how good Domingo was at the LowB flat? Maybe he should’ve been a baritone. The LowB flat at 6:25 is loud and clear. Very few tenor can do it.
Domingo emette degli acuti stretti, spinti e si sente che ha difficoltà sulla partitura verdiana, scritta per drammatico!!! Al limite spinto, ma con acuti sicuri...
With which of these two great masters are you studying,Sir chopin8826? I congratulate you...sure,they didn't accept anyone like disciple!You must be an amazing artist,sir,for to have been accepted by mastars like each one of them! ankhsnammon
La tonalità è abbassata per un Domingo al limite delle sue possibilità!!! è 30 anni che non ha più acuti grazie ad Otello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well,my favourite version of this duet isn't this,but...i considere the russian master very good here...and ever.Yes,his voice sounds a bit hard for the Italian ears and speaking.I'm a latin one...and I can support this..with an enormous pleasure!!!!Of course,I adore Bastianini,Capuccilli,and other Italian baritones' performances..they are superb but..but! He's THE MAN!!!!!!! ankhsnammon
Maybe the russian has such a strange way of to play this rôle...I could describe this way saying that he seems much more a boasting one than a revengeful aristocratic gentleman here... But i like this performance..and I don't know why... Ankhsnammon
@@commandert5 I'm sure He was, I also heard Domingo in a Trovatore in the late 1970s on the radio, where I thought He was terrific. But by the mid 1980s and even earlier, He was having trouble with high notes and was squeezing in the passaggio.
You dont half talk such crap. Unless your Operatic World is centered on a a handful of hasbeens, to you everything else is rubbish. Dont be such a Bigot and get l life.
@@waynewilliams4706h Hasbeens? because they are no longer alive? Is Domingo also a has been because he has not sung in a tenor role for over 10 years? Or is he not a hasbeen because he's alive? You must have missed my compliment below about hearing Domingo in Trovatore in the 1970s. You can skip the bigot comment that's ridiculous and doesn't fly. Thank God for the has beens that were greater than the never was.
@@sugarbist This is not the first time that you have made unkind remarks about Domingo, there have been countless occasions on you tube,far too many to mention. Your Operatic World is centered around a handful of singers from the past. If you have to be critical, do it in a constructive way and forget the word Biased. Dont think you know it all. All the genuine critics i read about compere singers in a knowledgeable genuine way.
@bodiloto,...dal vivo Chernov aveva voce piccola, poco adatta di repertorio Verdiano?...'...voce piccola'?...semplicemente non è vero! e basta!...'...poco adatta'?.. cuestio de gusto, y en todo caso es tu opinion personal...de lo que dices de Domingo, no hay novedad!...limitato? il tuo cervello può essere...ciaoooo!
Anche in questa occasione Domingo è al limite...mi domando come ha fatto ad eseguire 150 opere diverse in tutti i repertori!!! Sicuramente le ha solfeggiate e basta...forse prima di interpretare Otello era molto meglio e con l'interpretazione di Otello la voce ha subito un danno...Chernov niente male e buona interpretazione...saluti
i have just sung with chernov, and his voice is not the biggest, but one of the most wonderful with lots and lots of colours! Vladimir is also one of the nicest persons I've ever met!
Two amazing singers singing amazing music.
Прекрасно!!! Суперталантливо! Чернов великолепен! Спасибо!!!
спасибо вы дай вам бог здоровья- одно из величайших наслождений в моей жизни спасибо что были есть и всегда будете
Opera is theater.domingo is one of the best actors in opera...at least,in the last times.
And chernov...He`s,simply,AMAZING!!!!
Ankhsnammon
Chernov and Domingo in this scene are compelling and tragic and heroic. Simply wonderful. Chernov's "Simon Boccanegra" is also wonderful. Truly. That Domingo still can produce his plangent, allotrope, dark platinum voice at this age is still a delicious mystery. And a treasure.
Two amazing singers..and two amazing men,too!
ankhsnammon
A todos los que opináis que Domingo está al límite en los agudos, pensad en la edad que tenía en 1996 y en cuantos tenores de su cuerda y con su carrera a cuestas estarían cantando este rol con dicha edad, pocos, Domingo da como siempre lo mejor de sí y como casi siempre convence.
Salva Myl Tenía 54 años. A esa edad había tenores q le dan 40 vueltas. Ya está bien de tanto marketing y de q la gente por ese motivo vea a un tenor griton, monocorde y voz engolada lo traten como a un dios por todo lo anteriormente expuesto. Y ahora de baritono mejor ni hablamos...
Domingo es de otro planeta, hasta los trolls que le critican ven sus videos
please, more chernov, please!!!
Chernov certainly looks like Harvey Keitel in this excerpt. I heard and saw Chernov live many times and never noticed this resemblance before. Quite startling. I guess it's one of those things that you can only get UA-cam.
Domingo is unbelievably good here. This must his peak.
Chernov is a fascinating figure. In the Met production of Stiffelio he looks almost exactly like Sherrill Milnes.
As for Domingo, I think he's actually a little past his prime here, although he still provides a phenomenal performance. He had more power in the late 70s and 80s
@@commandert5
What was the greatest change the world had to deal with when the Soviet union fell?
At the time I said, it released the baritones. All at once the best operatic baritones all seemed to be Russians. Sergei Lieferkus, Dimitri Hvorostovsky and Chernov. No one in the West had much knowledge of any of them but all at once Chernov was the principal Verdi baritone at the Met, I heard Leiferkus as Prince Igor in San Francisco and Hvorovstovsky became a media star like Pavarotti.
Leiferkus had the least impressive voice but was absolutely great on stage. Chernov here is also a sensational actor. I never saw Hovorovtosky live. But if you tell me he acted as well as he sang, I'm prepared to believe you. I don't know about all Russian singers but it seems as if they prepare their their opera singer very well.
I heard Chernov several times at SF Opera. He was very good but his voice wasn't completely settled. His top was a bit shaky. But he moved over to the Met and when I heard him on TV and records he had brought it under control. Then he seemed to disappear.
In the old days of the Met Auditions they used to have age categories. Tenors, as I remember could only compete until they were 25. baritones had until they were 28 and basses could wait until they were 32. I 'm a bass so I got to auditioned when I had become 32. It was still a little to early for me. I never really sang properly until I was 65. This gave me only a few years when I was any good.
I think baritones need more time. Certainly basses do. Bjorling was the best tenor on earth when he was 24 but Wizell, Chernov and Zancanagro all appeared at SF Opera in big roles before they were quite ready. All three had techniques not quite completed and settled.
What was the greatest change in the world when the Soviet Union fell?
Domingo nunca negó que él estudió piano y dirección orquestal mas no canto, que su instrumento vocal es pura naturalidad y pasión. Su técnica realmente no es la mejor y el hecho de que llegó a la tesitura de tenor siendo inicialmente barítono es algo difícil de explicar, lo cierto es que pudo cantar papeles de lírico con cierto encanto y ligero con dificultad, por eso lo dejó pronto. Obviamente por su voz, el dramático le vino mejor. Que es engolado es cierto, pero esas fallas las tapa magistralmente gracias a su facilidad para actuar y hacer creíble cada papel en el que incursionaba, además de que su comprensión de la pasión musical hacen que al menos por un momento olvidemos el purismo de la técnica. Al menos yo prefiero oírlo a él en cualquier papel antes que a ciertos aburridos que mejor no los menciono para no ocasionar una polémica. Hay extrañezas de la naturaleza que no se pueden explicar y una de ellas es cómo podía cantar con esa edad esos papeles y transportar al espectador a la época, situación y momento de la historia. Gracias Plácido.
Domingo es un excelente músico y supo muy bien sacarle provecho a la musicalidad de muchos compositores!!!
You're right,my friends:both of you are right.
He's A MAN...the MAN...
beautifully endowed by all the spirits of nature....
Ankhsnammon
I'm not a fan of Domingo by any means, but my gosh does he characterise Don Alvaro well in this section. I wish he'd sung '...sulla terra...' in one long line with the phrase before it though. Chernov is incredible at acting, a good voice too... the drama comes first with these artists.
UN DÚO MAGNIFICO
Maestro Verdi said Opera is MUSIC DRAMA! "without drama" we can't call IT opera yes you guys rigth it can't be best version of duet at first Domingo isn't dramatic tenor but good actorand Chernov's voice is dark but beautiful(u americans said) I hope so people just listen and enjoy ....
@bodiloto, que grande eres machote¡ Eres una maquina¡
Chernov sings Don Carlo in such a way I can't describe, it is absolutely riveting...Domingo is not much to listen to, but I rather like his believable acting.
Seriously no one noticed how good Domingo was at the LowB flat? Maybe he should’ve been a baritone.
The LowB flat at 6:25 is loud and clear. Very few tenor can do it.
He's much more than this:he's a MAN,endowed like a TRUE MAN in ALLK the human senses!!!!!!!!!!
Ankhsnammon
Domingo emette degli acuti stretti, spinti e si sente che ha difficoltà sulla partitura verdiana, scritta per drammatico!!! Al limite spinto, ma con acuti sicuri...
With which of these two great masters are you studying,Sir chopin8826?
I congratulate you...sure,they didn't accept anyone like disciple!You must be an amazing artist,sir,for to have been accepted by mastars like each one of them!
ankhsnammon
Yes,more!
ankhsnammon
La tonalità è abbassata per un Domingo al limite delle sue possibilità!!! è 30 anni che non ha più acuti grazie ad Otello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well,my favourite version of this duet isn't this,but...i considere the russian master very good here...and ever.Yes,his voice sounds a bit hard for the Italian ears and speaking.I'm a latin one...and I can support this..with an enormous pleasure!!!!Of course,I adore Bastianini,Capuccilli,and other Italian baritones' performances..they are superb but..but!
He's THE MAN!!!!!!!
ankhsnammon
my god, is this bad!
Maybe the russian has such a strange way of to play this rôle...I could describe this way saying that he seems much more a boasting one than a revengeful aristocratic gentleman here... But i like this performance..and I don't know why...
Ankhsnammon
Grande chernov is a bit Flat :(
This is another role thats too big for Domingo. He Shud have left it to the likes of Corelli DelMonaco Tucker. But I guess the money was to good
He's also past his prime here. There is a 1977 recording with Miles and Price which he is spectacular in
@@commandert5 I'm sure He was, I also heard Domingo in a Trovatore in the late 1970s on the radio, where I thought He was terrific. But by the mid 1980s and even earlier, He was having trouble with high notes and was squeezing in the passaggio.
You dont half talk such crap. Unless your Operatic World is centered on a a handful of hasbeens, to you everything else is rubbish. Dont be such a Bigot and get l life.
@@waynewilliams4706h Hasbeens? because they are no longer alive? Is Domingo also a has been because he has not sung in a tenor role for over 10 years? Or is he not a hasbeen because he's alive? You must have missed my compliment below about hearing Domingo in Trovatore in the 1970s. You can skip the bigot comment that's ridiculous and doesn't fly. Thank God for the has beens that were greater than the never was.
@@sugarbist This is not the first time that you have made unkind remarks about Domingo, there have been countless occasions on you tube,far too many to mention. Your Operatic World is centered around a handful of singers from the past. If you have to be critical, do it in a constructive way and forget the word Biased. Dont think you know it all. All the genuine critics i read about compere singers in a knowledgeable genuine way.
Not my favorite version but much better than Kaufmann and Tezier.
Russische Lieder schwarze Raben
Russische Lieder
Доминго звучит как баритон
@bodiloto,...dal vivo Chernov aveva voce piccola, poco adatta di repertorio Verdiano?...'...voce piccola'?...semplicemente non è vero! e basta!...'...poco adatta'?.. cuestio de gusto, y en todo caso es tu opinion personal...de lo que dices de Domingo, no hay novedad!...limitato? il tuo cervello può essere...ciaoooo!
Anche in questa occasione Domingo è al limite...mi domando come ha fatto ad eseguire 150 opere diverse in tutti i repertori!!! Sicuramente le ha solfeggiate e basta...forse prima di interpretare Otello era molto meglio e con l'interpretazione di Otello la voce ha subito un danno...Chernov niente male e buona interpretazione...saluti