La forza del destino - 'Pace, pace mio Dio' aria (Anna Netrebko; The Royal Opera)
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Anna Netrebko as Leonora sings 'Pace, pace mio Dio' aria in Christof Loy's production of Verdi's sweepingly ambitious opera on war, religion, love and fate. Subscribe to our channel and find out more at www.roh.org.uk
La forza del destino is one of Verdi's most ambitious scores. Its overture - which introduces us to the sinister motif signifying Fate - is one of his most memorable. The opera also contains some of Verdi’s most brilliant choral writing, including Act III’s stirring ‘Rataplan’ chorus, and several beautiful and intimate arias such as Leonora's ardent Act IV 'Pace, pace mio Dio!'. There's comedy too with the scenes for the greedy monk Fra Melitone. Christof Loy's colourful and spectacular production reflects the kaleidoscopic nature of Verdi's opera, where intense personal dramas play out against a background of war, and in which religion plays an ambiguous role.
Verdi and his librettist and friend Francesco Maria Piave based La forza del destino on Ángel de Saavedra's highly dramatic play Don Alvaro, o la fuerzo del sino, and also incorporated material from Schiller's Wallenstein's Camp for Act III's military scenes. Following Forza's 1862 St Petersburg premiere, Verdi made extensive revisions to the score. The most substantial of these were a new overture, and a less melodramatic ending, in which Don Alvaro remained alive rather than committing suicide. The revised Forza, the version best known today, had its premiere on 27 February 1869 at La Scala, Milan.
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She sings some absolutely beautiful phrases, and then comes an appalling phrase, then a beautiful phrase, then appalling. I need seasickness pills.
Leontyne Price, please come back!
I LOVED this woman's voice for a long time. Clear, beautiful sound, incredibly relaxed control, true legato. Then, she began singing completely unsuitable roles. Now she's not even singing on pitch because her technique is gone. She couldn't possibly have a legitimate teacher or coach telling her to do this, so I fear she is the one making bad decisions, and she is ruining her voice. What a shame. Being around the age of fifty also means there's less chance of salvaging her technique and repairing the damage.
Let's hear your rendition!
@@JsWorldOfOpera, sorry, I retired from singing and teaching voice five years ago. That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. And I'm not the only one on this thread with this opinion.
@@JsWorldOfOperaEven those of us who can't sing have the right to an opinion about others who are professional singers. Come on. Anna has gone down, down, down.
@@jamesnickoloff6692 - She was always at the bottom because she was not taught the correct voice emission and her diaphragms were trained properly and these are the offects of not teaching her - she is completely at the bottom !!!
so bad, so bad, so sad that this is called singing opera these days. not in tune, constricted and collapsed, small sounding, no low notes, a hollow sound. and of course all miked.
Completely agree! This was simply abysmal in every respect.
Fritz you are so right unfortunately...
contraltissima Say what you like about her voice, but this was not miked, other than for the live recording. I was there on the night of this performance and for three other performances during the run, and none of the performers were ever miked. The ROH never allows miking, in fact I know of another very famous singer that no longer sings at ROH as they refuse to mic her. Anna’s voice definitely has imperfections but she has this amazing presence, and on the night her voice soared to the top of the house and sounded incredible..... she brought the house down.
PamelaFlitton
Pray do tell, I imagine it’s either Gheorghiu or Bartoli?
LaDivinaLover I couldn’t possibly reveal! But just let me say that Gheorghiu still performs regularly at ROH so it is not her 😉
Anna Netrebko has given countless amazing performances and became famous with her "Violetta" in La Traviata. I agree with many comments that this was not her best performance and she was probably having a really bad day - but still good enough for the Royal Opera House to put it on their UA-cam channel :) Anyone who is a professional singer knows how hard it is to sing amazingly every single time you're on stage. So, it would be awesome if those of you who know what it takes to sing at her level, acknowledge that this is a one time performance and doesn't reflect on her abilities to sing. Yeah, we all have our opinions and are entitle to hate this performance. But she has done great things and has made it very far in this business.
She had great natural potential, but--to me at least--she does not have the "heart" to be great. She's all show, no soul.
Elle n' était pas bien dans Macbeth non plus! Elle s'est mise à chanter des ouvrages beaucoup trop larges pour elle et malheureusement, la voix n'est plus. Quel horrible souffle sur sa voix détimbrée...
i heard this live in concert. Not as bad as sounds here, thatre resonance help to mask the flaws on voices like this. Still, in a world where Bocelli is considered one of the best tenors ever....go figure....
c'mon, no opera lover thinks Bocelli is a great tenor - he's for the masses. and if he wasn't blind, he would have no career.
Somehow she sounds worse when recorded than live, I noticed this watching her live in Aida. Still, too heavy roles for her voice and impossible to act them right when she's giving her all to singing them right. Her rendition of Aida was not bad, even musically decent and always on pitch, but so effortful, while others can sing this (apparently) effortlessly. She's better off singing Turandot to be honest.
Modern opera directors have killed a lot of good voices. Search 24-year-old Anna Netrebko' s una voce poco fa, she did not try to do these kinds of aggressive "vocal masking", so don't blame her; for singers who don't wobble as required by these moronic opera directors, roles will never be granted.
YES! In her early days singing Il Barbieri and Ryuslan y Liudmilla she had a truly gorgeous sound, and her voice sounded much bigger than it does now. So sad.
James ::
Anna Nebtreko ( some years ago ) ::
_I know what I'm doing !_
Just listened to it. Very mediocre. She was pitchy and lacked some agility.
She is on her way to becoming a baritone!
hahahaha:)
A Paradox 😂😂 and singing totally out of tune! I have only one question : why ROH post this?
A Paradox 🤣
And without any chest voice well developed.
Please don't insult the baritons
I'm honestly confused by the comments here. I think this is incredibly beautiful and emotional.
Verdi is beautiful, there is no doubt, but if you have a clue about singing you suffer.
Some people go to the opera for the full experience, other just to enjoy solely the singing. We need to go to the real definition of opera as an art form to understand both sides. Sometimes is better to be less "knowledgeable" to enjoy an opera performance.
how is she not booed off the stage? has everyone lost their sense of hearing? what is this monstrosity... this BLASPHEMY TO ART?
Pourya azizi Sadly, so many opera ‘patrons’ couldn’t actually give a shit about opera. There are so many corporate boxes. They also don’t give a shit about opera.
It’s simply an exercise in being seen in the opera house and, most particularly, at performances with the biggest names.
These putzes would have no idea if Netrebko was supposed to sound like that.
Most of them would not even notice if she sang her grocery list - and that not in a good way.
Covent Garden, once witnessed the like of Melba, Caruso, Destinn, Muzio, Tetrazzini, Flagstad, Melchior, Zanelli, Gigli, Callas, etc. now hosts this swine whose "singing" is unbearably vulgar (that is if you could understand a word from her mouth) and constantly off-pitch. Yes, this is blasphemy to art.
I have heard poor performances that could be booed, but I find it very harsh to boo singers, even a poor performance takes a lot of work and human voices are very voluble instruments who can fail when you least expect it and not be bad voices just because. I choose not to applaud them and not watch them again if I don't like their performance.
Stage directors on the other hand deserve all the booing they get and more when you watch some serious aberrations, and elements that, instead of enriching, divert one's attention from the stars of the opera.
@karenupton3445 - This is a phenomenal and true statement - bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍
Pacce mio dio!!!!!!!!!
Non si capisce piu niente di questo mestiere! Povera lirica🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Vai tu a cantare, dai!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
E cosi. non si capisce nulla!!!!!
All'inizio, la voce c'era, e che voce. Ora: fa schifo. E la lirica? Colpa ai stronzi di registi che non ne sanno nulla, ne di voci, ne di musica! E scemi direttori di teatro! Triste!
Shame on the administration of Royal Opera House.
It didn't seem to me as horrendous as people say. Then I got curious about how it should be sung because of the amount of negative comments. I listened to Maria Callas's performence over and over again. And now here again... I really think that this performance is not what it should be.
Absolutely!
Check gre brouwestein
Dont please. Maria Callas was not a perfect singer. If you want technique, search for leontyne price or Montserrat caballe in this role. Callas was good, but extremely overrated by fans and enthusiasts. She was like a movie star when alive, so a lot of people feel they are taken seriously for praising her. Searh for other many good singers, they are lots....
forgot to mention Aprile Millo! try her!
@@ChickenCastleQQ callas was everything not true at all best singers and conductors in the world praise Callas And she gave everything to opera you feel when she sings and early callas has best perfect
Yes, she has inaccuracies here. But she rethought this aria. In her performance this is not a “beautiful melody”, but it is an aria of a deadly tired and exhausted woman. Today she is one of the few singers who understands what she is singing. Her piano at 3:00 is surprisingly psychologically colored. Of course, this is not quite her repertoire, but she is an absolutely accomplished artist and has the right to a creative search.
You could walk the Roman Army, slowly, through Netrebko’s wobble. She sounds like she’s 70. In the few passages where she slims down her voice, it actually sounds promising. But then the wobble, again.
OMG! this is beyond horrible... Why does she sing these dramatic roles which are totally not for her subrette voice?! And who are casting directors and conductors to put this on stage?!.just sad and damaging to the opera in general... This vibratp, covering and darkening the voice, no line, horrible intonation, screaming without controle...wtf??? I go to listen Leontyne Price and Tebaldi to detox from this...
Coincido. Este papel parece hecho a la medida de Leontyne Price :)
Poor Verdi
Хочется пожелать Анне не исполнять арии,которые совершенно не подходят её голосу.А голос у Анны- лирическое сопрано, но никак не драматическое,как бы ей этого не хотелось.
Now , after Anna Netrebko unskilfully expandet her voice to the position of an old, leaki, air-filled tromba like Renata Scotto once did , her tromba voice is idefinable today !!!
It is not known whether it is a lirical or dramatic voice because tnere it is not about coloratura and bel canto there's on way !!!
She howls like on old , unmilked cow in the pasture !!!
Renata Scotto , despite her deep voice , sang cleanly because she had vocal technique , while Anna Netrebko always sang uncleanly and imprecisely ,even when he was a liric sopran !!!
Interesting to hear the cords stop phonating for a brief moment around 4:48, just before she started the descent.
From NO as in ZERO breath support.
The airflow wasn’t strong enough or continuous enough to keep the airway open so the cords snapped close.
It might have also been from inflamed vocal folds from singing a role that is way too heavy for her.
I have admired her work on many occasions but not this time.
Every time she sings “ Pace”, I cringe. Off pitch for the most part. Some nice moments of course. Final notes sound good. Hopefully she will never sing this role again. Good luck with Turandot.
Elle est une soprano lyrique - et NON - dramatique ! Elle ne chantera jamais bien dans cette tessiture ;-(
Povero Verdi
Absolutely!
Do us all a favour and get yours hands off this beautiful music!! Vergogna! Povero Verdi!
You clearly have no ear for opera. May I suggest that you try Justin Bieber? I'm informed that he sounds great if you are tone-deaf.
@@jackclaxton9524 You're obviously new to opera. May I suggest that you try Verrett or Caballe first not to mention Tebaldi, Callas, Corsi, Easton, Nilsson, Muzio, Krushelnicki? If you do it and still consider Mrs. Netrebko's "singing" a legitimate interpretation then you clearly are the one with "no ear for opera".
Speaking of "tone-deaf" at 2:00 "pace mio DIO" - is singing eflat (instead of d which is written) and messing up the rest of the phrase also a part of her wonderful interpretation? Definitely it makes her "unique" among those wonderful sopranos of the past. Is it the factor that makes her "sound great"? Or maybe it's her knodel and hollow sound. Tell me. I'm really curious.
Have a good day.
@@mikeziemann : I'm familiar with Verrett, Caballe et al. With the exception of Callas, I consider their performances either insipid or clinical to the point of detraction.
There is no opera singer in the world that is on key 100% of the time. Indeed, off-pitch is a valuable part of interpretation. If you have a problem with this, then maybe you should rather listen to techno-music, where perfect pitch is ensured by electronics.
I'd venture a guess that, if measured continuously over time, Callas was probably much more off-pitch than Netrebko. Anally retentive people such as you hounded Callas to death because of this.
That there are people capable of much more sophisticated powers of discrimination than yours willing to have paid 7000 US$ for a single ticket to hear Netrebko sing this particular performance should perhaps encourage you to re-evaluate your competencies - which, frankly, says much more about you than about Netrebko. She will survive your criticism, no doubt.
@@jackclaxton9524 You're absolutely right. Anna Netrebko possesses a wonderful talent, voice, taste and you can understand virtually every word she sings in Italian. ;) The singers I've previously mentioned are utterly tasteless and have no voice at all, especially Emilia Corsi, Claudia Muzio, Celestina Boninsegna, Salomea Krushelnitzka, Florence Easton. Composers and conductors like Puccini and Toscanini were cretins who worked with and promoted talentless, "insipid and clinical" pseudoartists like those singers mentioned above. The audience 100 years ago and back were completely dumb and incompetent, contrary to the audience nowadays. Ah! And they had no culture at all so they booed every good singer (like Netrebko, Kaufmann e la compagnia) and applauded the bad ones. Thanks god we got rid of that disgusting custom, so we can enjoy fantastic, talented people in silence (literally, as we don't hear singers anymore - we don't need to), without interference by those animals. Furthermore people in general had inferior taste to the one we have nowadays ie they dressed up in an absurd fashion, they built mostly ugly buildings (unlike today), they painted ugly pictures (unlike contemporary talented artists), they composed ugly and dull operas (unlike today's masterpieces - that is the reason why no theatres play those dumb operas any longer), they wrote poor literature for illiterate morons. Regarding your money argument: Back then nobody paid singers a penny for their horrible interpretations. They performed for free for the entertainment of those idiots.
Finally someone spoke the truth about those disgusting "legends" of the past! Viva Netrebko! ;D
Jack Claxton Callas more off pitch than Netrebko?
If Callas EVER sang anywhere CLOSE to this bad and off pitch in her entire career she would’ve been eaten alive, yet Netrebko gets a pass... why? What a joke...
Terribile. Voce ingolata, vibrato eccessivo, emissione troppo pesante. Acuti disastrosi. "Fatalità "è la conferma che non sa cantare e ha rovinato un'aria meravigliosa.😠😠😠
però una volta non era male anzi!!!!!!!
One big mystery in all this is why The New York Times music reviews keep showering Netrebko's recent performances with praise. I heard her Adriana in the 2018-19 run at the Met, and it was deplorable, but you'd never know it from the press she received.
cashelnd NYT reviews of the Met since the mid 80s have never been critical. Most likely $$ involved
I saw the recent Traviata with Damrau and JD Florez (it was a disgrace to the audience, to Verdi, to the art of opera) and the only criticism the NYT review did mention was that JD Florez was "hard to hear at times"...it was so bad that people next to me were asking if their hearing aids were turned up enough, Nezet-Seguin was actively quieting the orchestra to allow his notes to be heard and NYT made it seem like it was no big deal...THAT IS LITERALLY THEIR WHOLE JOB TO BE HEARD OVER THE ORCHESTRA IF THEY CANNOT BE HEARD OVER AN ORCHESTRA WITHOUT A MICROPHONE THEY ARE NOT OPERA SINGERS
That's why I didn't spend a single dime on NYT and any of its associated merchandise.
Unfortunately nowdays music critic basically doesn´t exist. It is included in payed PR. So they write what your agnecy or company pay to write. Just horrible.
It's the Times. You expect truth?
cashelnd the explanation is simple - lots of money
What a music from the very begining and so wobble, awful "singing".
Usually when I listen to singing on UA-cam, if I meet a singer I don't like, I will leave quickly. Order at most one dislike. See the comments here. Things become very strange when almost everyone has an exaggerated negative voice. I'm sure this was arranged!
Anna is one of my favorite contemporary singers. I love Tebaldi, Callas, Caballe, Freni ..... I listen to their recordings at home-almost none of them are alive, (by the way, even Callas was not appreciate .... it doesn't exist the perfect singer). But in the opera house, Anna is currently the sound I expect. She sings well here! I really like it! If you don't like it, I ask you to give an audition at Royal Opera House so that you can replace her! Please! just go to do this, let me listen how great you are! If you can't, Shut up and go away from here.
The audience have every right to judge her voice. We're supposed to do that. Not being to sing as well as her doesn't mean we have keep silence and let her horrifying voice destroys opera. It's you who needs to shut the f up and get outta here.
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!
Garbage, garbage mio Dio
Pace per a le mie orechie. 😥
Hahahahahahahahahahajaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Garbage, mio Dio, garbage, mio Diiiiiiooooo....
Flat and horrendous. Sounds as if articulating a bad case of indigestion.
she is actually sharp most of the time. Probably just had an off day.
@@katharinahaberl3247 No, this is normal for her. Just bad.
How interesting it is that big dramatic voices never touch light repertoire and don't try to sing Queen of the Night for example, but soft lyric voices constantly try to prove something and make mistake as Anna venturing into dangerous dramatic zone that ruins their voices. This performance is a disaster, although there was even bigger disaster from Anna recently when she sang Manon Lescaut of Puccini, awful wobbling, no more beautiful shiny voice she had. Compare this video to her past Massenet's Manon when her voice was soaring like a bird and sounded they way it should.
Dramatic voices do touch light repertoire, don't you worry.
@@arepo Yeah, those Lucias and Aminas Birgit sang... Unforgettable!
@@davidvscalvim2836 Is this your benign sense of humor? If so, I appreciate it. If not, read further. Giuditta Pasta premiered La Sonnambula, and she was called a dramatic soprano in her day. She also premiered Norma and Anna Bolena. All three roles were written for her. Callas did sing all three roles too. Sutherland too, and a few others. Of course just singing them isn't the real deal, HOW you sing them is the real deal. testflight confuses dramatic bel canto voice with big verista or Wagner stomper with no agility. You too, if your comment was in earnest, which I hope it wasn't.
Queen of the Night isn't the beginning and end of all operatic singing wisdom. Neither is is the beginning or end of operatic exhibitionism, but it is operatic exhibitionism all right. Actually Queen of the Night is very easy for a soprano with good agility and excellent extension (and the extension needed in Mozart's day was less than today because the orchestra was tuned more than a semitone lower.) The trouble with Queen-of-the-Night-sopranos is they seldom sing anything else equally good. So, if you want a exhibitionist Queen of the Night, no problem. If you want a versatile artist however, who can sing the late XVIII, the XIX and the early XX century repertoire...
Joan was a fabulous Micäela.
I truly hope people didn’t pay good money to hear this performance! I rarely comment in the negative here, but if this is representative of the best this she can do with this material, her talent and artistry are highly overrated!
£250 plus in the stalls.
She was probably not feeling great that day. If you're a singer yourself, you know how hard it is to cancel engagements like that :) and a professional musician deserves to get paid - if a guy in an office has a bad day - they also still get paid ;) remember that.
@@katharinahaberl3247 But she doesn't really ever sound good in anything.
She was once a very good artist (remember that extraordinary Salzburg Traviata for example). She then started getting momentum because (a) we have been facing a shortage of good sopranos for the last 25 years and (b) in the beginning she was very humble in interviews and looked pretty. This has made her a very overrated singer.
@@LordMgls No, she was never good. She's just gotten a whole lot worse.
What is the matter with “our Diva”.... I was never her fan, but,please... A student in the Concervatorie would sing better.
Alex Lewis, my cat did a better job!
I cannot stand these trash modern-setting European productions anymore. Also...what has this woman done to her voice? She used to be decent way back when. Now she sounds like a washed-up has been.
Her body and voice changed after she had children. What she could do was to find another way of singing, and that she did, as we can hear. I wish she had a more old-school teacher available at that time...
operamaniak81, I thought I remembered her from ages ago when I used to think I loved her singing! So that's what happened! But has she also lost her hearing and pitch discernment? And how does she continue to pull audiences? And WHO at the Royal Opera engages her??? - let alone broadcasts these snippets of Verdicide???
@@PeterBrodie IMO in the major theatres we observe the Hollywood-like star system: they create stars and later sell tickets thanks to names on the posters. It seems they prefer those nicer looking and better acting, and they are ready to go the extra mile to support these legends no matter what. They did the same with Callas - only she was lucky to have good teachers. What do you think?
operamaniak81 , yes, but..... Who goes to opera performances, then? Yeah, I know it's a status thing for some, but it's not fair on those of us gasping for a decent performance of music theatre. I expect they'll rush you £150+ for a seat in the circle.... If that's what the status seekers are willing to pay, let them. They'd have to pay me that kind of money to sit through the performance! But it also explains why Covent Garden attracts the largest single subsidy from the Arts Council: to give the status seekers somewhere to show off their 'refainery'.
@@operamaniak81what a coincidence! I started thinking the same thing a while ago, trying to understand such decline.
Modern opera singers love to constrict their voices. It sounds boring. Anna tries to darken her voice which makes it unnatural.
You cannot darken your voice unless you lower your larynx. So its really unnatural
It is very sad most particularly for Anna who once was a fun, ingratiating soprano. Here she is out of tune attemting to join the ranks of Ponselle, Milanov, Tebaldi, and zPrice who once graced this part with such distinction. No dignity here
Is she even trying?! Her “s” sounds louder than her actual voice
microphones dont distinguish yet....
Hahahahhahahahaha
Ouch!!! 5:08 That hurt! Wait, actually the whole performance hurts!
It's hard to figure out why the Royal Opera House thought to post this, except as a tale of caution to singers who overreach when they never even had the goods to begin with, and now their lack of technique and discipline are catching up with them.
The second, first, and third pace's are horrifying, in that order.
Lots of damage after some years of self-deception with wrong roles and tryings to push her voice. Overopened throat, swallowed voice, seriously out of tune and very wobbly. The crack was expectable. Very sad at all if i remember her wonderful singing in the 90ths and early beginning of this century.
After 20 seconds I know this is not going to end well. I´m not here for bashing somebody but Netrebko is definitely the most overrated opera "stars" of the last 30 years. And the slow pace doesn´t help at all.
But she is beautiful!
Dont forget Florez and Kaufmann
@@M.Stabile They're just as bad
@@xxsaruman82xx87 it was sarcasm
@@pepitogrillo8263 👍
...Okay but y’all have seriously ruined the word “kaleidoscopic” it can’t ALL be kaleidoscopic otherwise none of it is. Also Anna sounds like an old woman, the middle is collapsed and her wide mouth/jaw usage aren’t helping... cast real voices rather than stereotypes and you might find real words to describe your productions with.
You have to sing with the voice you were given. You can not fake heft by singing as dark as she is. It sounds unnatural. The larynx never forgets. There are always consequences. Pay it now, or pay later...
Where is Rosa Ponselle when one needs her most? Ay, ay, ay, ay...
Then yes, listen to Tebaldi!
@@operabilia I did. Twice. In the opera house. Una voce d'angelo. Tebaldi è accigliata dal cielo ascoltando il soprano russo. Orrore!
Ded
Wobblissima. Offpitchissima. Ingolatissima. Meh...
Hahahhaah your comment made my day. You're so right.
StickThreeNine
Had a bad day but she has gotten worse
@@draganvidic2039 she is just horrible
StickThreeNine
Yes now with the big wobble it’s intolerable...
All opera singers wobble. That's what they do.
Why all the bad comments? ;) She is bringing her voice to a next level. ;)
You're utterly deluded
Which level is that?
Oh gosh...sorry I can't listen anymore
I had to listen to Montserrat Caballe sing this and, yes, there is a difference. I think Anna Netrebko has pushed her voice over the years to the point of no return.
100%
She is a light, lyric and she pushed too much out of her Fach that is for sure.
@@soprano1176 she is a Full lyric. Not a light one. But yes I agree I think she's pushing her voice. If she just sang it with her natural voice it would be fine but.....
Está pesando demasiado su voz! Por qué, si su voz naturalmente es hermosa ! Mal hecho, en mi opinión.
the 4:30 minutes is sublime not even Callas o Caballe sings like that ,good for Anna ❤
With respect to the negative opinions of people better versed in Opera than I am, I found this aria moving and riveting.
THIS IS NOT AN ARIA FOR HER VOICE AT ALL!!!!!! SHE IS TRYING TO BE SOMETHING SHE IS NOT! SHE DOES NOT HAVE DRAMATIC VOICE!!!! I FEEL SORRY FOR HER, WHO EVER IS CONSULTING HER, IS RUINING HER VOICE!!!
THE WHOLE THING WAS VERY SUPERFICIAL!!!
Dios mio Anna que estas haciendo con tu voz. 😳😳😳
Her voice sounds so UNNATURAL, so MANUFACTURED. Do people really enjoy her performances? I mean this is objectively bad when you compare it to Ponselle, Callas, Tebaldi, Milanov, etc.
Perché? Ecco la parolina magica.. perché.La fine dell'opera lirica ,come di tutto...consumismo sfrenato...in ogni campo...Callas Tebaldi? Un ricordo .
Anna is a good singer but how can one sing Adina and Musetta and then sing Leonora. She’s a lyric/coloratura/soubrette like Diana Damrau and not a spinto/dramatic. Anna and all singers for that matter should stick to their fach for their vocal health if nothing else.
This obsession with fach has gotten ridiculous . What determines whether a singer can sing a role are technical demands like range,tessitura,agility,singing against the orchestra ,and stylistic demands like understanding the period . A reductionist fach label isn't going to help.Lucrezia Bori used to sing La Boheme and La Traviata,but no La Sonnambula or Lucia di Lammermoor . Lily Pons used to sing Lucia and La Sonnambula,but no La Boheme . Kraus used to sing Manon and Werther but no Puccini ,not even light Puccini
Non amo (ma proprio per niente) la Netrebko, ma devo inchinarmi al suo coraggio di eseguire il "maledizione" finale come è scritto, senza prendere fiato. Un coraggio che non hanno avuto le più celebri, gloriose e blasonate interpreti della storia.
ecco !!!😊
Wahat are you talking about , men - what a ''clownish'' thing - you must be really fucked up !!!
I love Anna. She is truly a unique artist. This is a great moment of music legend. Full of passion and emotions.
Horrible canto, esto no es para su voz, deberían prohibirle cantar.
You are talking about an artist who has performed countless performances all over the world for 30 years and added countless works to her repertoire. Still she is best... You're just looking for her voice from the past, but neither Callas nor Ponselle have been fortunate enough to do so.
Wow. This lady is really out of tune....Believe God will not send any "pace" and close his ears!
If you hear carefuly you can hear Tebaldi rolling in her grave...
Ja.....spinning!
Not to mention Maria Callas!!
Tebaldi? Rosa Ponselle just rolled out of her grave clear across the Atlantic to be next to and comfort Tebaldi.
Tebaldi was too gracious for that but there was surely some eye rolling in the audience. RO does such great productions generally then . . . there’s . . . THIS.
Please turn back real singing!Dont do this to earn more money!You all ruined opera!....
that is very bad and very sad, she destroyed her once flowing voice. Wobbling is intolerable, try to speed up video or slow it down, you will be horrified by how her voice uncontrollably shakes, her poor cords also started to emit some unpleasant hissy side sound, her pitch is all over the place, from the very beginning she is awfully pitchy.
I love this . She has so much heart. Was it vocally perfect? No, but I would take this any day over certain robotic performances. I think she sounds beautiful as well
This role requires a dramatic voice she is lyric soprano with no coloratura at all ,its a demanding role with very hight strong notes, she is singing like a mediocre mezzo soprano she has no stamina nore the voice no technique the is only noise coming through her mouth when she sings the dramatic repertoire, she had to stick to her lyric voice
@@maximillian6222 I agree with you entirely.
I agree with you. Not perfect, but opera is not about perfection, it's about passion, musicianship, and drama. Personally I think her voice is beautiful, and she passed the pp high B-flat test. I don't understand the Netrebko haters.
STOP CASTING HER
Indivioso eh??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michelegiovetti6678 Perché invidioso? Che cos'ha la Netrebko di buono qui?!
She was obviously studying Shirley Verrett, but the pitch problems and swallowed tones continue to detract from some nice moments.
Shirley Verrett had a long, distinguished and varied career there's no comparison. Verrett's diction was always exemplary and she never had a wobble. Poor Anna what happened?
@@johnrondeau8500 Agreed. There is no comparison. Verrett was stellar. But she appears to have studied Verret's interpretation of this role.
John RONDEAU um...she became way too ambitious for her own good and started singing roles waaaaaay out of her fach.
Splendida come sempre 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😘 brava Anna 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
В темпе largo эту арию петь нельзя. К тому же её голос стал шататься.
Horrible. Listen Renata Tebaldi, the best Leonora for all the times. But listen Leontyne Price, Anita Cerquentti, Rosa Ponsele, Montserat Caballe among others.
Renata.. Caballe.. 😍😍 ohh man
Callas
I listen again and I think I was unfair. Far from horrible. A small mistakes.
@@arrassip Get your Beltone tuned. This was bad.
Ponselle singing with laryngitis into a squashed flugelhorn in a cave with a hood on while chewing a caramel would still be state of the art here.
How can Royal Opera House stoop so low as to invite an artist singing this bad? Are decades of prestige that cheap these days?
When she is on pitch, it's by accident.
You are totally right
lol you are right :)
ROH, you have done so much for ballet... But for opera... My dear, you're going backwards with this one...
Great description. Thank you.
Oh my God, she's ruined.
She is . She's recently been singing the wrong things and she's ruined her voice
Igual la siguen contratando.
Oh my god it's so bad I need to take a shower now.
Thank you very much
Lots of critical comments here, and I don't disagree with them. However, the magical high note and ensuing phrase at 4:28 is a remnant of the old Anna. Then 4:58 comes, killing all of that. I miss her lyric soprano days.
Still impressive that she can lighten the voice up
I just watched her perform“La Forza del Destino”at La Scala last night,absolutely unparalleled. She keeps getting better and better.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!! HELP US, GOD!
Never liked her. Her impronta is not good. Here she is out of everything. She is not tuned!!!!!! what is this please!!!! Tony Tony what are you doing!!!
Why??? Why promote a singer who can't sing consistently in tune? Pace. The first 'pace' began roughly in tune, but only dropped a quarter tone from 'pa-' to '-ce'. The second 'pace' then started sharp, and I went sharpish for the 'pause' ..... then the comments. I avoid her at all costs - but got caught out unawares. Ah well, I've enjoyed a break of several months, and at least I can appreciate the reason behind the bad sound that floated towards my ears: AN...
Peter Brodie another nobody that can’t make it in life trying to get attention. If you don’t like the way she sings why are you here listening to her. She doesn’t need you and her fans could care less what you have to say. She’s the best and she always will be and she’s a great person. Who has ever said that about you, I’m guessing no one thats why you’re criticizing her.
Peter Brodie Is that your real picture. You have much bigger problems than Anna. Work on yourself it’s 2019 caveman.
laura DeMilio, your personal remarks do you no favours. If you're able to enjoy off-key singing, lucky you! But being spiteful towards people who voice their distaste won't make you any happier. That's all I have to say to you.
Peter Brodie Did I hurt your feelings?? Too bad so sad!! “I avoid her at all costs”. You aren’t rude leaving that comment. You’re ugly on the inside as well as the outside.
@@laurademilio4475 I know, from previous experience, that there is no point in stating this, but your heroine-worship is as tiresome as it is ill-directed.
All the people saying "without mics you coulnd't hear her" shut up. I heard her as Anna Bolena in the Opernhaus Zürich and even her pianissimi in "Al dolce guidami" floated around my ears, and I was in the 2.Rang quite far away (don't tell me a microphome&speakers can replicate this accoustic phenomenon please). I could hear her perfectly even when the orchestra was playing fortissimo. Ok sometimes she's not perfectly on pitch, ok you can prefer a voice that's more "chiaro"...but to say that she can't be heard through the orchestra sound is just utter bs.
Anna Bolena is a largely exposed role with a much smaller orchestra than anything Verdi wrote. When she's not singing in the back of her throat, she's got a coloratura voice that would work well in those bel canto roles. I'd point you to a better comparison of some audience recorded live videos of her singing over larger orchestras - totally inaudible.
@@elenawinellcomposer yes please send some links!
I still find it difficult to believe... But yes you're right, Verdi (especially the late one) and Donizetti are not the same.
@@CriticaLxThoughX ua-cam.com/video/Ih9etsVM8Nc/v-deo.html Skip to 1:40 of that video for an example
Zurich has strange accoustics. The singers are extremely dominating there in accoustic terms. Music and voices sometimes don´t mix.
Is this the bitonal seasick version? How she manages to be at once too heavy and too stringent is beyond my comprehension.
It is the bitonal seasick verdion
Sempre bella la voce!
E passa dal ruolo di soprano lirico, al leggero, al drammatico...
25 anni di carriera.
Canta sempre e ovunque. Brava.
🤣😭
She sounds like she's got something stuck in her throat. Very irritating to listen to! 😖
It's not a role suitable for her voice
acting is much more than putting on a crazy face every now and then... Over Gesturing won't hide your voice problems
It is so depressing to hear a singer I used to respect singing this way. So bad.
her pianissimo Bb sounds like a trill! it can’t decide if it’s an A or Bb
What a trrriblissimo performance!
Who would think there were so many opera experts out there! A few decades of singing in the most significant opera houses in the world attest to her value and skill. If you don’t like her, don’t listen to her. If she didn’t know how to sing she wouldn’t be killing it for about 20 years already.
Brava!
Killing it? She's as flat as a pancake here!
She used to be great...
You can hear she's constantly out of tune, though, right?
This is wild at 2x speed.
You are a genius.
Hahahahaha!!!
😂😂😂
the vibrato!!
ROFL! 😂
The BEST music to have your own limbs surgically severed for the sake of a system that powers a war robot.
Tebaldi would die again of the shame of others (Netrebko)...
Absolutely!
Unbelievably bad.
No.
Just... stop.
Non c’è un solo aspetto che vada bene! Fa cagare sotto tutti i punti di vista. Per colpa di queste iper raccomandate, cantanti di talento non hanno spazio
Nella prossima stagione lirica alla Scala la sentiremo in alcune recite di Tosca. Nelle altre ci sarà Saioa Hernandez, e spero che tutti si rendano conto che la Netrebko può solo che nascondersi.
@@mminlovewithflo La Hernandez si mette in tasca tutti i soprani attuali. Spero veramente che ci si renda conto di quanto male si sta facendo all'opera dando spazio a certi soggetti.
Ahahah gelosaa eh?
@@raita245 gelosissima vero?
Something is wrong. I am not professional, but to me - it is power of the voice
Dear Anna, you are not a dramatic soprano!! Don't do it , please
I think she's a spinto.
Bonjour, j'aimerais bien savoir dans ce cas ce qu'elle est...
Merci pour votre réponse
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How is she still singing in these places
jonathon waetford The triumph of an excellent marketing and publicity juggernaut.
jonathon waetford money
@@karenupton3445 Exactly!
I cant say for sure. But i am afraid she is microphoned in live performances, nowadays.
She is...!!!!
@@MaritinaTampakopoulos... That's terrible!.....
Jose Manuel Hernandez Yep.
Everyone is microphoned, otherwise you wouldn't get any sound at all. Think before you speak.
Sorry but Verdi isn't for her. Check Urmana singing it for example. Netrebko is flat throughout.
Urmana isn't that great either. Tebaldi is MUCH better than both.
Actually, nothing is for her... Netrebko is not an opera singer at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!
Add to this her recent Lohengrin. She is not a Wagnerian soprano either. She once had a beautiful voice, but it's gone.