Wow you made me feel really good about the dallisgrass war I waged in my front yard this summer! in June in the peak of its growing season I dug up about 50 huge clumps from my front yard. Now I'm a woman so what I did was get a gardening tool, and a rubber mallet. I use the rubber mallet to hammer that gardening tool into my hard clay soil all the way around the clump. for the really big clumps I also hammered the gardening tool into the middle of the clump in an x pattern 2 divide it into quadrants. Then I excavated each quadrant. Yes a whole bunch of dirt came up too. I knocked off the dirt when I could. Field in the holes with a bunch of topsoil. And within 3 weeks to Bermuda grass was growing back. It is now beautiful and you cannot tell that there was any dallisgrass in my front yard at all
I had Dallisgrass confused with Crabgrass for years until this Video. Thank You for helping me start the process. I have about. 50% of it Killed. A couple of more applications should alleviate the problem completely.
I was just saying for clarity. Mixing Celsius and Revolver is essentially the same as using Tribute. They are two of the three ingredients in Tribute. Great channel, btw.
Thanks Jason, I've learned so much since I've started following your channel. I've neglected my bermuda lawn for a couple of years, and after watching your videos, I've declared war on my weeds. Keep up the good work, and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
+Mike J spraying glyphosate in the winter may be the trick for you if it has been neglected for years. It really just depends on what type of weeds you have. Dallisgrass is the main one that I try to get with glyphosate in the winter on Bermuda
My gosh Jason, this video was so enlightening!! I learned so much from you. I have been trying to figure this out (killing my Dallisgrass) for several years and low and behold, your video explained it all. You are very easy to understand and love your occasional jokes, especially the one about nailing and posting the dead Dallisgrass to a pole as a warning to all the other Dallisgrass to beware! Thanks again for so much information and so I many options to kill my Dallisgrass.
MSMA was my go-to herbicide for dallisgrass before the EPA banned it from residential turf. I like the approach of using pre-emergents at the maximum allowable rate per year, with glyphosate going on dormant turf in mid-winter. I've done this before, and the gly will knock out everything green. People need to be careful because if the turf isn't COMPLETELY dormant, you will likely have a delayed spring green-up. Great vid!
I have quite a bit of dallasgrass. My home was a rental home for 4 years prior to my purchase. So it's safe to assume no one took care of the lawn. I have been spot treating my lawn with drive spiked with spectracid and it works with killing it. I just have so much of it though I'm going to be doing your recommendations in the fall and winter. Thanks for your wisdom!
Finally got rid of my Dallisgrass in Florida. A real war to place in my yard, leaving me exhausted and half my lawn dead. It's gone though. Atrazine and Roundup did it. Made it an opportunity to plug in better newer versions of grass. Looks great today.
About 30 years ago, my brother in law told me about MSMA. I bought a gallon of it and it lasted me about 10 years. It was one of the best herbicides I ever used.
I had a yard full or huge clumps in my St. Aug. I highly suggest Grandpa’s Weeder if you want a simple solution to pulling them up by hand. Fiskars has a weed puller too but they break way to easy. Thanks for all the tips!
Thank you for letting me know what this monster is! I woke up an this thing was like 2.5 feet high now (thanks for hot weekend weather) and thick (like a palm tree!). It's got it's little seed thing that looks like a braid coming out and now I need to take a shovel and flameflower to them!
The third of my yard was completely overtaken by dallis grass. I finally had enough of it and used roundup on the entire area and resoded the entire thing. Sometimes the nuclear option works best.
Good idea. I was actually thinking about using an eyedropper and putting 1-2 drops in the center of the stalk, but a tiny brush sounds like a good idea too.
@@jylcorazon1376I'm going to try your technique, Jyl. Do you dilute the glyphosate, according to instructions, or use full strength from the bottle? I have the generic 41%. So painting the broad leaves will take it down to the roots? Thanks!
@@jonilangdon3986 Joni, I have tried both ways , ( straight undiluted, and diluted ), and I found diluted at the maximum labeled rate is actually more effective at killing the weed and also coats the leaves better. Also, make sure it gets a light watering in after a couple of days to ensure the product is transported to the root system.
Another amazing video filled with great information! Will the MSMA damage or discolor the bermuda grass at all with multiple applications in the summer heat? Thanks for all you do Jason love the channel and all you do to help the lawn care industry.
I sprayed msma on an all Bermuda lawn at a mix rate of .9 ounces per gallon at 2 gallons per 1,000 sq ft. It didn’t kill the Dallisgrass but did other weeds. But I did it in July our hottest month in louisiana
Hey bud i love the tips and reminders you give. I live in north Alabama so much of what you deal with i do to so i watch your videos for help in the lawn when i come across something im not sure about. I have used glyphosat but in the middle of the summer i tell you what worked for me and wasnt to hard but took a little time and patients. I bought a plugger to use on my Bermuda and found the plugger to be useful to pull the dallis grass and crab grass up. Then i just put back some top soil and Bermuda spot patch in the holes. Thanks again for the videos!
I will look up the name if your interested. I couldnt find one locally so i orderd one to use it for making my on plugs but found it works well to pull dallis and crab grass.
Its called Yard Butler Sod Plugger. To bad i cant post a pic to give you an idea of what it is. Hope this helps! Oh and ebay has them for $32 and shipping is free.
Sowed KY Bluegrass 5yrs. ago and had an amazing beautiful lawn. got busy with summer camps for kids and needed a help keeping the grass cut in the summer. Guy I hired brought Dallis grass into my yard and I did not catch it quick enough ...... until it was too late. I have tried everything ..... now I am plowing up my entire yard and starting over......problem is, it has begun spreading into my neighbors yard and we may have to dig up his yard as well. Always vet people cutting your grass and make sure they are not bringing foreign grasses cut somewhere else to you.
I finally decided on solution 5. I took a sharpshooter and inserted it deep around the plant. This left big holes in my yard that I filled with super soil. Hopefully I got most of it with this method. I did pull out big clumps before doing #5. I grasped the grass and leaned back, pulling the weed out, saves my arms and waisted from pain later.
Nice work. Dallis grass is getting worse. I have also manages to pickup burweed - small dark green thorny pieces of hell. The thin spurs break of in your feet and hurt fir a while. Understaning that it is a winter germinator any spring work will only leave dead clumps of thorns. Plantains are a pain. Got some dang thistle coming up in the bottom. If you need an example.yard I have it. Thanks for posting. Nice clear simple guidance .
I have tried to use glyphosate in December, January and February. Every time it kills or sets the bermuda back tremendously. Maybe it's my climate, I'm from Oklahoma. I bought MSMA several years ago and find that works best treating twice 3-4 weeks apart.
I'm in Athens, AL and I wish you were up here. We've been using a company at our new house the past year and a half and the bermuda is still full of weeds. The pre-emergent they used obviously didn't work.
I sprayed some Ranger on my Zoysia back in February, not a good idea!! I regretting, but it is now starting to spread back to the killed areas and I have done some plugging from healthier areas. I guess Bermuda can handle this treatment much better.
Dude! THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! Been getting my grass absolutely destroyed by dallisgrass this year on a house I bought. Have never had this issue before…finally had a lawn company start spraying in late spring. Still having to mow at least weekly. Now, we are gonna have some more guns in the fight. And eBay always provides 😂
+catbirdfeeder depending on what kind of grass you have, hopefully come back quickly. Bermuda usually recovers pretty quickly. Zoysia is quite a bit slower
Excellent video very informative. I do have a question. How many ounces per gallon would you recommend of MSMA per gallon of water would you use to help rid Dallis grass in a Bermuda lawn during the Summer? Thanks! Keep the great videos coming!
I had used “Image for crabgrass”. It came in a 3 pack and you spray it on. I don’t know if it completely killed it; but it turned my Dalisgrass brown and it was easier to pull. I haven’t been able to find it lately. What about applying roundup with a small paintbrush, during the summer? I don’t know if it will still kill the surrounding grass or not?
I brush glyphosate on DS and have St Augustine Grass...it works but time consuming and if it's hot out u will sweat!!! U will kill a Lil St Aug but not as much as spraying. I'm waiting for someone to try Dismiss NXT
I tried applying with a paint brush. I think if the dallisgrass is in centipede/bermuda you can just spray glyphosate at the lowest recommended concentration repeatedly and only do enough damage that your lawn should fill in. Fescue, I would spray glyphosate before you reseed in the fall.
I just redone my entire front yard after replacing my drain field. I done 100% scotts southern gold grass seed. I made the rookie mistake of not applying a preemergent, like Tenacity, and now the tall fescue is growing in nice but I have a ton of dallasgrass. Light green leaves mixed In all over the yard......I'm lost.... ugh. Is their a way to truly get rid of it?
Man this video is a gift. That crap is taking over my front yard and I’ve tried several kinds of weed killers that are safe to spray on my Bermuda/zoysia. But it will not touch it.
Thank you for this video. I have a Dallisgrass situation in my one year old seeded Zoysia Lawn and it's going to get treated with Tribute Total. Hopefully it will take care of the Dallisgrass.
Please post updates I started by treating mine with tenacity but got impatient and just ended up pulling them after it's started taking effect don't know if it would have actually gotten rid of the Dallas grass
@@truthhunter5195 I sure will. I'd imagine it would take at least two applications before it will begin to have good results, but pulling the Dallisgrass isn't a bad idea either lol.
@@tigerblood6823 also FYI if you get a good rainy day and preferably when the Dallas grass is still kind of small early spring very easy to identify and pull out I don't think it would be that way if it was hot and dry in the summer to quote a good friend of mine it would be like having a arm pulling contest with a gorilla
You're so informative, thank you. I am fighting dallisgrass here in northern California in my front yard. It is not possible to get the products you mentioned. Our yard is tall fescue with another type which I am not sure what it is. I will try shoveling it out or using a good old fashioned grandpa weed puller once the lawn softens up with some rain, please rain!!! The draught has wrecked havoc and the weeds are winning. Do you have doppelganger in northern California. ?
I just moved from Northern California to Tennessee and had a new fescue lawn put in with sod. Apparently some of the sod came with dallisgrass and we ended up with several thousand sq feet of dallisgrass!!! I’ve spent several weeks on my hands and knees pulling it up one clump at a time and it’s almost gone. It doesn’t appear to be coming back, so I’m hopeful it is working. I also killed some of it by making a gel with 40% glyphosate, surfactant and blue dye and applied it to each weed. That worked pretty well but left dead weeds and I still had to remove the seed heads. I also had a ton of crabgrass dropping seeds mixed in with the dallisgrass, so I decided to just pull up everything to try to get all the seeds removed before they spread even further. It seemed like it was going to take forever, and I didn’t enjoy doing it at all, but now that the weeds are almost gone I’m glad I did it. Oh, and the ground does need to be well watered or you’ll just tear off the tops. And I used an old fashioned weed digger to help get the roots out.
@@brianmealey1279 Hi Brian. That you so much for your post, it is encouraging. I think I will get the grandpa weed puller along with using the glyco...with the suficant and wait for the turf to go dormant. I did the shovel-out option on one corner and it worked well, but sure enough it is now in the other corner. I think I will also have to avoid aerating the lawn till I remove these tenacious dallisgrass weeds.
Very educational video! Thank you! Thumbs up! Had a quick question. I've got a fescue lawn. I'd like to move to zoysia since we're here in NC. I've got areas with some dense shade, some partial shade, and some full sun. The yard looked beautiful after over seeding in the spring, but has since become overrun w/ dallisgrass. Even areas where the fescue was as thick as the hair on your head, the dallisgrass has come in and choked out the fescue. What would you do this fall if you were me? Treat w/ the target 6.6 then seed this fall? Stick w/ fescue, and see the dense shade area w/ shade fescue seed? Should I start going w/ some zoysia in the dense shade areas? For the absolute worst areas, I might just plow under w/ tiller and then throw down some sod. The worst part is my neighbors lawn is literally 100% dallisgrass...I mean...that's totally it. They cut it super short, but with my yard being down wind of their yard (thanks to car traffic), my yard is easily over run by dallisgrass in almost no time at all. Considered sod in that area of the yard, but doubt even that would keep it out. So...what would you do if you were me?
Prior to 2007 mama worked well with arsenic epa pulled that out .new msma does not work well as before works well on all other grassy weeds . For small amounts of dallasgrass use screwdriver or ice pick and stab in the center or heart to the massive root system and put glyphosate directly down to the root
I did two things to kill my dallisgrass, killed it with Roundup then resodded the dead areas, and if I saw any more I used a hand shovel and dug it up from the roots.
After you killed with roundup, did you dig the dead dallisgrass up before you sodded? Wondering how this worked for you... I've got a St Augustine yard and what I'd consider a pretty major dallisgrass problem.
My Bermuda lawn in Georgia is infested with it. I hired a lawn chemical company specifically to kill it, and they failed miserably. All they did was feed it. Grows a foot in 4 days. I hate it. I am going to try your methods, I fired the company. I thought it was crab grass initially, (2 years ago) and bought Quinclorac you suggested in another video. Then realized it wasn't crab grass because it didn't die in winter. DOh! Thanks for your videos!
I think I am going to do the round up thing, but don't really like using any chemicals, as I have a stream down hill from my property. But other than burning my lawn, don't seem to have a choice. All the lawn care company did was get it yellow, and like you said, it came back with a vengeance. It didn't help that they didn't do much of anything when it was dormant. My calls went unanswered. Thanks for your videos, I have watched most of them that relate to home owners.
thank you for details. I have celcius too. I have bermuda grass but I also have weed just like bermuda grass from the shape to the leave just like it but it is thicker. Do you know what kind of weed is that?
I wiped out everything else, now letting my grass recover a few days and then going after it! I Have gobs, of Dallisgrass to still get out! Only thing surviving so far is the Dallis. I may go after it with Glyc and a 4 inch paint roller on a stick.
I've used glyphosate, i can see it working,. How do i know if it will kill the roots? Because of its resiliency, dallisgrass might just pop right back up if it doesnt get to its root correct? Should I till it or dig it just in case?
If you are going to pull it up, you have to get all of the roots out or it will just come back. The roots can spread out downward and outward quite a ways in ground.
Once you Roundup a dormant Bermuda lawn that has a huge % of Dallas Grass, what steps should you do next? Do you need to put any kind of fertilizer or soil treatment down? Will the Bermuda take over then dead Dallas Grass once it’s not dormant or do you still need to pull the dead Dallas out?
I am in Southern Middle Tennessee. Need to kill about 5 patches of dallisgrass in a Fescue (soon to be Bermuda) lawn. What is the most effective at killing this stuff?
No it is an old video. But which of the methods would work best on a st Augustine lawn grass? I had it under control but didn't do the normal routine for 2 years and it has come back with a vengeance. So it is a lot more than just the 3 to 5 clumps I would fight in our big backyard.
1 bottle of Diquat (Spectracide weed and grass killer). 1 small artist paintbrush. 1 pair of knee pads and 30 minutes a day carefully brushing the Diquat on the dallisgrass. Nukes anything I put it on.
I'm in Southern California and Celsius seems to be illegal to ship here. In fact, most of the products you mentioned will not ship to CA. Do you have any other suggestions?
I’ve got a “right of way” of common Bermuda that’s being choked out by bluestem and Dallisgrass, will a few treatments of MSMA smoke both of them? Last fall I soaked the bluestem clumps with glyphosate, looked totally fried but came back even bigger this summer, it doesn’t kill the roots. I have yet to attempt anything on the DG, looking for something that will take them both out for sure.
If you have Dalligrass and you cut it , what happens to the seed heads? Does this cause more Dalligrass to grow? I have centipede grass and live in Louisiana. What can you use to control these weeds in centipede?
I have the same thing going on in south Louisiana. I'm about to try tenacity on dallisgrass growing in centipede. It's not labeled for it, but I'm seeing it's sensitive.
It's pretty compact. Biggest patches of well established are about the size of dinner plates. Take a hoe to the edge and pry it out and the whole root/weed will come out well in sandy soil...and clay soil.
Hello Jason, Great Video. I'm in Huntsville, AL and have new yard with Burmuda grass sod put down in June. It came with a lot of Dallisgrass. I was planning to wait for the Bermuda to go dormant so I could treat with Glyphosate. However, it is November 14th, and while the Burmuda is still green, the Dallisgrass appears to be completely dead. Any thoughts?
@@lawncarelife Thanks Jason. After watching another one of your videos, I believe it is most like foxtail. The seed heads are single stalks that look somewhat like small wheat stalks.
Help needed. My elderly neighbor paid a company thousands of dollars to strip out the zoysia grass and replace it with centipede grass. It didn’t last the zoysia has grown back and smothered the centipede. Is there a product that can reverse this zoysia dominance and have the centipede as the dominant grass? The company said “Oh well that happens “. When she walks on the zoysia she is unstable because it’s so soft. Thank you.
I wish I could find out what this vine type grass is called I have. It has deep roots, it spreads out through the roots and vines taking over everything in its path. I've been pulling it up and laying down fresh grass seed but it's pretty infested. It's a new house well new to me so I have to start from scratch. I plan on putting down weed and feed this spring hoping it's an annual grass or weed but I have no idea what it is. To be honest unless I retire and just work on my lawn I'll never get it all so if it is a perennial it's a lost cause. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you, Sir! I thought for the longest time it was some sort of St. Augustine because when its in your whole yard it actually looks kinda nice but then you mow it, it doesn't. Can you suggest anything the big box store might have to get rid of it? Someone said Atrazine would work. I'm in South Carolina, btw with a mix of St. Aug, Centipede, and a little Bermuda here n there.
Atrazine will not work on Dallisgrass. About your only option would be to spray glyphosate on the individual clumps and let the grass grow back after the Dallisgrass is dead. Or you could take a handful of fertilizer and put on the individual clumps which would burn the Dallisgrass up. Or dig it up. I'm not sure of any other options
You can tell its dallisgrass because alot of the time it has a big bald spot in the middle. I've found that its alot easier to use a pick mattock instead of being on your knees pulling it by hand if you have a couple here and there and you don't want to use chemicals on your lawn.
I didn't know it worked on zoysia grass as well. $99 is not bad considering the piece of mind it will give us. I hate seeing my yard with weeds, yellow or with long grass blades. Do you also do winter rye? Are you in the US? I'm located in Dallas Tx.
Lucky me gets to dig it out I guess...My customers don't want to use herbisides. If i don't get all the roots, will the common Bermuda choke it out? Say if I mow at 1.5 inches? Thanks!
I bought this house in Tennessee and the lawn looks like a smorgasbord of species, but on closer inspection, dallisgrass is the offender. I would like to seed it in Spring, but if I use glyphosate and a pre-emergent in Spring, any seed I put out won't grow. If I go out to pull it all, it's a little over half an acre of pulling. I'm still trying to figure it out. Businesses in the area are more than willing to charge me money, but I doubt they know what the demon is any better than I do. They are happy to charge me for what they think they know. Still trying to forge a path forward.
I've got a pretty large spot in my backyard of Dallisgrass. My bermuda is still dormant but so is the Dallisgrass. Any tips for spring time management?
If you don’t have a lot of Dallis grass (occasional spots of it), it is faster and cheaper to just dig it up with a shovel, replace a shovel full of dirt and sow grass seed. And you still will have to watch it because it possibly will come back if you didn’t dig it all the way up. Very difficult weed to eradicate.
I had a customer that told me that it was alright to not cut the grass anymore because the dallisgrass grew so fast until she assume that i didn't cut it short enough.
I have dallisgrass in New Jersey. Also nutsedge. A representative from the lawncare company I use told me that he can't get rid of dallisgrass and nutsedge because all of the products that can kill them are illegal to use in New Jersey. Does this sound right to you? I showed him my Ortho Nutsedge Killer bottle last year. He told me it's illegal to use it. He said that Amazon isn't allowed to send it to me in New Jersey like they did. He said that he would be a multi-millionaire if he could come up with a product that will kill these two weeds without killing lawns and that aren't that toxic.
Dimension probably won't affect a perennial, since the roots are already established. I just applied Dimension for the first time this spring 2021. Didn't affect established dallisgrass.
I don’t know what to do. I have st augustine, centipede, and Bermuda in my yard. And Dallas grass is in all of it. It’s the worst in the Bermuda. I think I’m gonna have to call a pro. This is stressing me OUT. I got it bad. Yard was neglected by the previous owner.
Wow you made me feel really good about the dallisgrass war I waged in my front yard this summer! in June in the peak of its growing season I dug up about 50 huge clumps from my front yard. Now I'm a woman so what I did was get a gardening tool, and a rubber mallet. I use the rubber mallet to hammer that gardening tool into my hard clay soil all the way around the clump. for the really big clumps I also hammered the gardening tool into the middle of the clump in an x pattern 2 divide it into quadrants. Then I excavated each quadrant. Yes a whole bunch of dirt came up too. I knocked off the dirt when I could. Field in the holes with a bunch of topsoil. And within 3 weeks to Bermuda grass was growing back. It is now beautiful and you cannot tell that there was any dallisgrass in my front yard at all
I did the same thing this summer. My front yard l looks better.
Wher can I get msma?
I had Dallisgrass confused with Crabgrass for years until this Video. Thank You for helping me start the process. I have about. 50% of it Killed. A couple of more applications should alleviate the problem completely.
Glad to help
I was just saying for clarity. Mixing Celsius and Revolver is essentially the same as using Tribute. They are two of the three ingredients in Tribute. Great channel, btw.
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Thanks Jason, I've learned so much since I've started following your channel. I've neglected my bermuda lawn for a couple of years, and after watching your videos, I've declared war on my weeds. Keep up the good work, and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
+Mike J spraying glyphosate in the winter may be the trick for you if it has been neglected for years. It really just depends on what type of weeds you have. Dallisgrass is the main one that I try to get with glyphosate in the winter on Bermuda
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My gosh Jason, this video was so enlightening!! I learned so much from you. I have been trying to figure this out (killing my Dallisgrass) for several years and low and behold, your video explained it all. You are very easy to understand and love your occasional jokes, especially the one about nailing and posting the dead Dallisgrass to a pole as a warning to all the other Dallisgrass to beware! Thanks again for so much information and so I many options to kill my Dallisgrass.
MSMA was my go-to herbicide for dallisgrass before the EPA banned it from residential turf. I like the approach of using pre-emergents at the maximum allowable rate per year, with glyphosate going on dormant turf in mid-winter. I've done this before, and the gly will knock out everything green. People need to be careful because if the turf isn't COMPLETELY dormant, you will likely have a delayed spring green-up. Great vid!
MSMA is the ONLY way to go
I have quite a bit of dallasgrass. My home was a rental home for 4 years prior to my purchase. So it's safe to assume no one took care of the lawn. I have been spot treating my lawn with drive spiked with spectracid and it works with killing it. I just have so much of it though I'm going to be doing your recommendations in the fall and winter. Thanks for your wisdom!
Finally got rid of my Dallisgrass in Florida. A real war to place in my yard, leaving me exhausted and half my lawn dead. It's gone though. Atrazine and Roundup did it. Made it an opportunity to plug in better newer versions of grass. Looks great today.
Did the atrazine affect the frogs at all?
About 30 years ago, my brother in law told me about MSMA. I bought a gallon of it and it lasted me about 10 years. It was one of the best herbicides I ever used.
I had a yard full or huge clumps in my St. Aug. I highly suggest Grandpa’s Weeder if you want a simple solution to pulling them up by hand. Fiskars has a weed puller too but they break way to easy. Thanks for all the tips!
+Trent Burns thanks for the suggestion. I haven't heard of that tool but it probably beats pulling them up by hand
Thank you for letting me know what this monster is! I woke up an this thing was like 2.5 feet high now (thanks for hot weekend weather) and thick (like a palm tree!). It's got it's little seed thing that looks like a braid coming out and now I need to take a shovel and flameflower to them!
Your the scientist when it comes to grass... thanks brotha
MSMA will go in my yard and I don't give a damn if it's legal or not.
Dramatik4Real what I treat all my Bermuda football fields with. 2-4-d for broadleaf weeds.
Use a little of certainty with the MSMA and you should get rid of the dallisgrass in one spray. Your welcome
@@jrizothagod4453 exactly. Tribute 1.5/a, Celsius 3.7/a, msma 1oz/a.....= smoked.
@@T1up4me12385 can those all be added together in a single application? Should a surfactant be used? Are your measurements oz/acre?
Zach why can I not find that nor the target 6.6.
The third of my yard was completely overtaken by dallis grass. I finally had enough of it and used roundup on the entire area and resoded the entire thing. Sometimes the nuclear option works best.
I've been painting glyphosate on DG... I have St Augustine grass...works well but time consuming! DG is A MONSTER!
Good idea. I was actually thinking about using an eyedropper and putting 1-2 drops in the center of the stalk, but a tiny brush sounds like a good idea too.
I use an artists paint brush with plenty of surfactant mixed into the glyphosate. The technique works great on torpedo grass as well.
@@jylcorazon1376I'm going to try your technique, Jyl. Do you dilute the glyphosate, according to instructions, or use full strength from the bottle? I have the generic 41%. So painting the broad leaves will take it down to the roots? Thanks!
@@jonilangdon3986 Joni, I have tried both ways , ( straight undiluted, and diluted ), and I found diluted at the maximum labeled rate is actually more effective at killing the weed and also coats the leaves better. Also, make sure it gets a light watering in after a couple of days to ensure the product is transported to the root system.
Another amazing video filled with great information! Will the MSMA damage or discolor the bermuda grass at all with multiple applications in the summer heat? Thanks for all you do Jason love the channel and all you do to help the lawn care industry.
I sprayed msma on an all Bermuda lawn at a mix rate of .9 ounces per gallon at 2 gallons per 1,000 sq ft. It didn’t kill the Dallisgrass but did other weeds. But I did it in July our hottest month in louisiana
Hey bud i love the tips and reminders you give. I live in north Alabama so much of what you deal with i do to so i watch your videos for help in the lawn when i come across something im not sure about. I have used glyphosat but in the middle of the summer i tell you what worked for me and wasnt to hard but took a little time and patients. I bought a plugger to use on my Bermuda and found the plugger to be useful to pull the dallis grass and crab grass up. Then i just put back some top soil and Bermuda spot patch in the holes. Thanks again for the videos!
Sounds like a good plan. Can you send me a link to a plugger like you are talking about? I would be interested in checking that out
Absolutely give me a sec to dig it up. I bought it off ebay and paid 20 or 30 for it.
Any luck on the link of the Plugger (or should I say Puller). Or can you tell me the product's name and i can look it up?
I will look up the name if your interested. I couldnt find one locally so i orderd one to use it for making my on plugs but found it works well to pull dallis and crab grass.
Its called Yard Butler Sod Plugger. To bad i cant post a pic to give you an idea of what it is. Hope this helps! Oh and ebay has them for $32 and shipping is free.
Sowed KY Bluegrass 5yrs. ago and had an amazing beautiful lawn. got busy with summer camps for kids and needed a help keeping the grass cut in the summer. Guy I hired brought Dallis grass into my yard and I did not catch it quick enough ...... until it was too late. I have tried everything ..... now I am plowing up my entire yard and starting over......problem is, it has begun spreading into my neighbors yard and we may have to dig up his yard as well.
Always vet people cutting your grass and make sure they are not bringing foreign grasses cut somewhere else to you.
We don't have dallisgrass here so never had to deal with it. Do you run any risk of it seeding out after pulling it and mowing it back into the mulch?
I throw it in the trash. Another unfortunate bit is that the seeds can germinate for a few years even if the plant has been removed.
OMG brah, you are HILARIOUS at 17:45-50 talking about nailing the dallisgrass up on the wall for it to 'be a warning'!!! LOL!!! Luv it!
I finally decided on solution 5. I took a sharpshooter and inserted it deep around the plant. This left big holes in my yard that I filled with super soil. Hopefully I got most of it with this method. I did pull out big clumps before doing #5. I grasped the grass and leaned back, pulling the weed out, saves my arms and waisted from pain later.
Nice work. Dallis grass is getting worse. I have also manages to pickup burweed - small dark green thorny pieces of hell. The thin spurs break of in your feet and hurt fir a while. Understaning that it is a winter germinator any spring work will only leave dead clumps of thorns. Plantains are a pain. Got some dang thistle coming up in the bottom. If you need an example.yard I have it.
Thanks for posting. Nice clear simple guidance .
I have tried to use glyphosate in December, January and February. Every time it kills or sets the bermuda back tremendously. Maybe it's my climate, I'm from Oklahoma. I bought MSMA several years ago and find that works best treating twice 3-4 weeks apart.
Timing is everything with glyphosate. You are right, it can set back the Bermuda. Especially if it's not fully dormant when applying glyphosate
I'm in Athens, AL and I wish you were up here. We've been using a company at our new house the past year and a half and the bermuda is still full of weeds. The pre-emergent they used obviously didn't work.
Who were you using at the time?
LOL!!! After seeing his videos I wish he was in North Alabama too.
Taking over my yard this summer... I live in east tennessee
I live here in Seymour, 10 mins from UT.... same here. My tall fescue is coming in nice, but little light green leaves everywhere.....ughhh
I sprayed some Ranger on my Zoysia back in February, not a good idea!! I regretting, but it is now starting to spread back to the killed areas and I have done some plugging from healthier areas. I guess Bermuda can handle this treatment much better.
19:48 The absolute BEST part of the video. Very informative - thanks man!
Ha. I do the same thing.
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Dude! THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!
Been getting my grass absolutely destroyed by dallisgrass this year on a house I bought. Have never had this issue before…finally had a lawn company start spraying in late spring. Still having to mow at least weekly.
Now, we are gonna have some more guns in the fight. And eBay always provides 😂
#6...I didn't wait for dormancy...I sprayed with round up... now I have big ole round dead spots. We'll see if it recovers fast this coming spring....
+catbirdfeeder depending on what kind of grass you have, hopefully come back quickly. Bermuda usually recovers pretty quickly. Zoysia is quite a bit slower
Thanks. Even though I just learned I'm screwed. I have zoysia/centipede mix and am infested with dallisgrass. Like half my yard.
Excellent video very informative. I do have a question. How many ounces per gallon would you recommend of MSMA per gallon of water would you use to help rid Dallis grass in a Bermuda lawn during the Summer? Thanks! Keep the great videos coming!
1 ounce
Thanks for all the great information ! I greatly appreciate it.
I had used “Image for crabgrass”. It came in a 3 pack and you spray it on. I don’t know if it completely killed it; but it turned my Dalisgrass brown and it was easier to pull. I haven’t been able to find it lately.
What about applying roundup with a small paintbrush, during the summer? I don’t know if it will still kill the surrounding grass or not?
I brush glyphosate on DS and have St Augustine Grass...it works but time consuming and if it's hot out u will sweat!!! U will kill a Lil St Aug but not as much as spraying. I'm waiting for someone to try Dismiss NXT
I tried applying with a paint brush. I think if the dallisgrass is in centipede/bermuda you can just spray glyphosate at the lowest recommended concentration repeatedly and only do enough damage that your lawn should fill in. Fescue, I would spray glyphosate before you reseed in the fall.
I just redone my entire front yard after replacing my drain field. I done 100% scotts southern gold grass seed. I made the rookie mistake of not applying a preemergent, like Tenacity, and now the tall fescue is growing in nice but I have a ton of dallasgrass. Light green leaves mixed In all over the yard......I'm lost.... ugh. Is their a way to truly get rid of it?
Man this video is a gift. That crap is taking over my front yard and I’ve tried several kinds of weed killers that are safe to spray on my Bermuda/zoysia. But it will not touch it.
It's tough to kill
Thank you for this video. I have a Dallisgrass situation in my one year old seeded Zoysia Lawn and it's going to get treated with Tribute Total. Hopefully it will take care of the Dallisgrass.
Please post updates I started by treating mine with tenacity but got impatient and just ended up pulling them after it's started taking effect don't know if it would have actually gotten rid of the Dallas grass
@@truthhunter5195 I sure will. I'd imagine it would take at least two applications before it will begin to have good results, but pulling the Dallisgrass isn't a bad idea either lol.
@@tigerblood6823 LOL I just couldn't stand the Dallisgrass staring at me all day I had to do something about it
@@tigerblood6823 also FYI if you get a good rainy day and preferably when the Dallas grass is still kind of small early spring very easy to identify and pull out I don't think it would be that way if it was hot and dry in the summer to quote a good friend of mine it would be like having a arm pulling contest with a gorilla
You're so informative, thank you. I am fighting dallisgrass here in northern California in my front yard. It is not possible to get the products you mentioned. Our yard is tall fescue with another type which I am not sure what it is. I will try shoveling it out or using a good old fashioned grandpa weed puller once the lawn softens up with some rain, please rain!!! The draught has wrecked havoc and the weeds are winning. Do you have doppelganger in northern California. ?
I just moved from Northern California to Tennessee and had a new fescue lawn put in with sod. Apparently some of the sod came with dallisgrass and we ended up with several thousand sq feet of dallisgrass!!! I’ve spent several weeks on my hands and knees pulling it up one clump at a time and it’s almost gone. It doesn’t appear to be coming back, so I’m hopeful it is working.
I also killed some of it by making a gel with 40% glyphosate, surfactant and blue dye and applied it to each weed. That worked pretty well but left dead weeds and I still had to remove the seed heads. I also had a ton of crabgrass dropping seeds mixed in with the dallisgrass, so I decided to just pull up everything to try to get all the seeds removed before they spread even further.
It seemed like it was going to take forever, and I didn’t enjoy doing it at all, but now that the weeds are almost gone I’m glad I did it.
Oh, and the ground does need to be well watered or you’ll just tear off the tops. And I used an old fashioned weed digger to help get the roots out.
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Hi Brian. That you so much for your post, it is encouraging. I think I will get the grandpa weed puller along with using the glyco...with the suficant and wait for the turf to go dormant. I did the shovel-out option on one corner and it worked well, but sure enough it is now in the other corner. I think I will also have to avoid aerating the lawn till I remove these tenacious dallisgrass weeds.
Very educational video! Thank you! Thumbs up! Had a quick question. I've got a fescue lawn. I'd like to move to zoysia since we're here in NC. I've got areas with some dense shade, some partial shade, and some full sun. The yard looked beautiful after over seeding in the spring, but has since become overrun w/ dallisgrass. Even areas where the fescue was as thick as the hair on your head, the dallisgrass has come in and choked out the fescue. What would you do this fall if you were me? Treat w/ the target 6.6 then seed this fall? Stick w/ fescue, and see the dense shade area w/ shade fescue seed? Should I start going w/ some zoysia in the dense shade areas? For the absolute worst areas, I might just plow under w/ tiller and then throw down some sod. The worst part is my neighbors lawn is literally 100% dallisgrass...I mean...that's totally it. They cut it super short, but with my yard being down wind of their yard (thanks to car traffic), my yard is easily over run by dallisgrass in almost no time at all. Considered sod in that area of the yard, but doubt even that would keep it out. So...what would you do if you were me?
Prior to 2007 mama worked well with arsenic epa pulled that out .new msma does not work well as before works well on all other grassy weeds . For small amounts of dallasgrass use screwdriver or ice pick and stab in the center or heart to the massive root system and put glyphosate directly down to the root
I did two things to kill my dallisgrass, killed it with Roundup then resodded the dead areas, and if I saw any more I used a hand shovel and dug it up from the roots.
Fleets Enema that works as well. Dallisgrass is such a pain to get out of a lawn. Thanks for the comment
Lawn Care Life I'm keeping a close eye on the lawn to make sure it doesn't come back again.
After you killed with roundup, did you dig the dead dallisgrass up before you sodded? Wondering how this worked for you... I've got a St Augustine yard and what I'd consider a pretty major dallisgrass problem.
My Bermuda lawn in Georgia is infested with it. I hired a lawn chemical company specifically to kill it, and they failed miserably. All they did was feed it. Grows a foot in 4 days. I hate it. I am going to try your methods, I fired the company.
I thought it was crab grass initially, (2 years ago) and bought Quinclorac you suggested in another video. Then realized it wasn't crab grass because it didn't die in winter. DOh!
Thanks for your videos!
It is a challenge to get rid of.
I think I am going to do the round up thing, but don't really like using any chemicals, as I have a stream down hill from my property. But other than burning my lawn, don't seem to have a choice. All the lawn care company did was get it yellow, and like you said, it came back with a vengeance. It didn't help that they didn't do much of anything when it was dormant. My calls went unanswered.
Thanks for your videos, I have watched most of them that relate to home owners.
Use MSMA Target 6 plus. One treatment and it's gone. It's a godsend.
thank you for details. I have celcius too.
I have bermuda grass but I also have weed just like bermuda grass from the shape to the leave just like it but it is thicker.
Do you know what kind of weed is that?
dirt lint is it yellowish?
Great video! I hate this weed. Some of my lawns go dormant in July and I shouldn't mow them but have to bc of this weed.
Dallisgrass is my arch-enemy of weeds
If the DG turns yellow, brown, starts wilting, and can come back with vengeance, how do you know when the plant is dead?
Best part 16:50
Arm wrestling a gorilla lmao 😄😂🤣
Jason always has good comedy in his videos.
Tribute is mixture of Celsius and Revolver, as well as a sedge material.
I don't use tribute total much. Typically just save it for the fall and spring when trying to get rid of Dalligrass
I wiped out everything else, now letting my grass recover a few days and then going after it! I Have gobs, of Dallisgrass to still get out! Only thing surviving so far is the Dallis.
I may go after it with Glyc and a 4 inch paint roller on a stick.
I've used glyphosate, i can see it working,. How do i know if it will kill the roots? Because of its resiliency, dallisgrass might just pop right back up if it doesnt get to its root correct? Should I till it or dig it just in case?
If you are going to pull it up, you have to get all of the roots out or it will just come back. The roots can spread out downward and outward quite a ways in ground.
Once you Roundup a dormant Bermuda lawn that has a huge % of Dallas Grass, what steps should you do next? Do you need to put any kind of fertilizer or soil treatment down? Will the Bermuda take over then dead Dallas Grass once it’s not dormant or do you still need to pull the dead Dallas out?
Bermuda should fill in where the dead Dallisgrass was. But it doesn't always kill all the Dallis grass on the first try.
I am in Southern Middle Tennessee. Need to kill about 5 patches of dallisgrass in a Fescue (soon to be Bermuda) lawn. What is the most effective at killing this stuff?
No it is an old video. But which of the methods would work best on a st Augustine lawn grass? I had it under control but didn't do the normal routine for 2 years and it has come back with a vengeance. So it is a lot more than just the 3 to 5 clumps I would fight in our big backyard.
I guess mixing Celsius and certainty but it is going to be difficult
@@lawncarelife thanks ill re watch it again for those two in the video and give it a crack.
Omygosh...haven't tried nailing a thatch as a warning to the others yet. I'm willing to try it though
are the roundup bottles strong enough? or should get a more concentrated glyphosate? for bermuda lawns
1 bottle of Diquat (Spectracide weed and grass killer). 1 small artist paintbrush. 1 pair of knee pads and 30 minutes a day carefully brushing the Diquat on the dallisgrass. Nukes anything I put it on.
I'm in Southern California and Celsius seems to be illegal to ship here. In fact, most of the products you mentioned will not ship to CA. Do you have any other suggestions?
I’ve got a “right of way” of common Bermuda that’s being choked out by bluestem and Dallisgrass, will a few treatments of MSMA smoke both of them? Last fall I soaked the bluestem clumps with glyphosate, looked totally fried but came back even bigger this summer, it doesn’t kill the roots. I have yet to attempt anything on the DG, looking for something that will take them both out for sure.
These are great videos and very helpful information. I have a Bermuda lawn. Can you please suggest a broad spectrum pre and post emergent herbicide?
Hello Jason,
Can your 5 methods be applied to Tall Fescue? (Specifically with MSMA or Tribute Total).
I'm pretty sure tribute total will work on tall fescue. Not sure about msma. You might also try a product called katana
Revolver works wonders on tall fescue in my bermuda lawn. Knocks it out in one application and doesn’t even yellow the bermuda.
If you have Dalligrass and you cut it , what happens to the seed heads? Does this cause more Dalligrass to grow? I have centipede grass and live in Louisiana. What can you use to control these weeds in centipede?
I have the same thing going on in south Louisiana. I'm about to try tenacity on dallisgrass growing in centipede. It's not labeled for it, but I'm seeing it's sensitive.
I am in Georgia, I had two warms days so I did the Glystar Plus on my Bermuda. My grass is thick so I hope it works. Dam Dallas grass is the devil.
I use 32 oz per acre
What’s a good pre emergents to prevent Dallas grass?
Any tips for non warm season grasses, specifically tall fescue?
Does it spread with runners. Also which roundup product is the one you recommend.
It's pretty compact. Biggest patches of well established are about the size of dinner plates. Take a hoe to the edge and pry it out and the whole root/weed will come out well in sandy soil...and clay soil.
Where can we purchase the measuring cup for Resolute??? I can't find it anywhere.
So glad my local farm store still sells msma.
Hello Jason, Great Video. I'm in Huntsville, AL and have new yard with Burmuda grass sod put down in June. It came with a lot of Dallisgrass. I was planning to wait for the Bermuda to go dormant so I could treat with Glyphosate. However, it is November 14th, and while the Burmuda is still green, the Dallisgrass appears to be completely dead. Any thoughts?
It have been crabgrass and not Dalligrass.
@@lawncarelife Thanks Jason. After watching another one of your videos, I believe it is most like foxtail. The seed heads are single stalks that look somewhat like small wheat stalks.
Help needed. My elderly neighbor paid a company thousands of dollars to strip out the zoysia grass and replace it with centipede grass. It didn’t last the zoysia has grown back and smothered the centipede. Is there a product that can reverse this zoysia dominance and have the centipede as the dominant grass? The company said “Oh well that happens “. When she walks on the zoysia she is unstable because it’s so soft. Thank you.
I wish I could find out what this vine type grass is called I have. It has deep roots, it spreads out through the roots and vines taking over everything in its path. I've been pulling it up and laying down fresh grass seed but it's pretty infested. It's a new house well new to me so I have to start from scratch. I plan on putting down weed and feed this spring hoping it's an annual grass or weed but I have no idea what it is. To be honest unless I retire and just work on my lawn I'll never get it all so if it is a perennial it's a lost cause. Any help would be appreciated.
Do you use a surfactant with the 6.6? if so which.
Which options works for turf type tall fescue?
Will St. Augustine grass take over and smother out dallisgrass? I'm trying to keep things organic in my yard. Using milorganite.
I can confidently say the answer is no. Dallisgrass is quite difficult to get rid of
Thank you, Sir! I thought for the longest time it was some sort of St. Augustine because when its in your whole yard it actually looks kinda nice but then you mow it, it doesn't. Can you suggest anything the big box store might have to get rid of it? Someone said Atrazine would work. I'm in South Carolina, btw with a mix of St. Aug, Centipede, and a little Bermuda here n there.
Atrazine will not work on Dallisgrass. About your only option would be to spray glyphosate on the individual clumps and let the grass grow back after the Dallisgrass is dead. Or you could take a handful of fertilizer and put on the individual clumps which would burn the Dallisgrass up. Or dig it up. I'm not sure of any other options
Thanks again, Jason. I have a ton of glyphosate!
I'm just south of Huntsville, AL. Will the glyphosate be effective on bermuda in the winter? (February).
Yes. I use 32 oz per acre. Warm days are better. It is slow in cold weather
LMAO,,, "Nail the clump of grass to a post to let it know it's not welcome here"
It's hard to kill. Sometimes I think it's dead and it comes back to life
You can tell its dallisgrass because alot of the time it has a big bald spot in the middle. I've found that its alot easier to use a pick mattock instead of being on your knees pulling it by hand if you have a couple here and there and you don't want to use chemicals on your lawn.
Lol yes it does, I've had to buy a couple of bags of soil to level it back up.
Hoping the Bermuda runners fill in soon to cover up the soil patches. Lol How much was the Target 6? I've heard it's super good.
I didn't know it worked on zoysia grass as well. $99 is not bad considering the piece of mind it will give us. I hate seeing my yard with weeds, yellow or with long grass blades. Do you also do winter rye? Are you in the US? I'm located in Dallas Tx.
Lucky me gets to dig it out I guess...My customers don't want to use herbisides. If i don't get all the roots, will the
common Bermuda choke it out? Say if I mow at 1.5 inches? Thanks!
I doubt the Bermuda will choke it out. It is very difficult to kill
Thank you!
If anything it’ll spread in a ring pattern leaving a balding center.
What about painting it with glyphosate any success?
I bought this house in Tennessee and the lawn looks like a smorgasbord of species, but on closer inspection, dallisgrass is the offender. I would like to seed it in Spring, but if I use glyphosate and a pre-emergent in Spring, any seed I put out won't grow. If I go out to pull it all, it's a little over half an acre of pulling. I'm still trying to figure it out. Businesses in the area are more than willing to charge me money, but I doubt they know what the demon is any better than I do. They are happy to charge me for what they think they know. Still trying to forge a path forward.
Our lawn is full of Dallas Grass!
I have 30,000 sq ft.about 10,000 of it is nothing but dallas other is mixed in with bermuda.i may wait until dormacy and do the glyphosate
What are your recs for nutsedge?
Prosedge or certainty
Will blindside work really well for Virginia buttonweed?
Rudy Merced yes, one of the best products I know of for Virginia buttonweed
I've got a pretty large spot in my backyard of Dallisgrass. My bermuda is still dormant but so is the Dallisgrass. Any tips for spring time management?
If you don’t have a lot of Dallis grass (occasional spots of it), it is faster and cheaper to just dig it up with a shovel, replace a shovel full of dirt and sow grass seed. And you still will have to watch it because it possibly will come back if you didn’t dig it all the way up. Very difficult weed to eradicate.
I love your Channel. Can msma be used on a Fescue lawn?
The last one is the best.
I had a customer that told me that it was alright to not cut the grass anymore because the dallisgrass grew so fast until she assume that i didn't cut it short enough.
I have dallisgrass in New Jersey. Also nutsedge. A representative from the lawncare company I use told me that he can't get rid of dallisgrass and nutsedge because all of the products that can kill them are illegal to use in New Jersey. Does this sound right to you?
I showed him my Ortho Nutsedge Killer bottle last year. He told me it's illegal to use it. He said that Amazon isn't allowed to send it to me in New Jersey like they did.
He said that he would be a multi-millionaire if he could come up with a product that will kill these two weeds without killing lawns and that aren't that toxic.
Does XLR8 work on dallisgrass?
Also, run Specticle or dimension for 2 years. Lawn pros???
Dimension probably won't affect a perennial, since the roots are already established. I just applied Dimension for the first time this spring 2021. Didn't affect established dallisgrass.
What can I kill Dallis grass with in the spring time
What type of grass do you have?
I think Rey grass and some the grass starts with b
Is Target 6.6 the same as 6 or 6 plus?
Looks like 6.6 has more MSMA in it. I have Target 6 Plus and it is labeled as 48.3% MSMA; 6.6's label says it is 51% MSMA.
so glad i found this !!!!
I spray 16 ounce of glyphosate per acre EVERY winter on my Bermuda. My yard Greens up same time as everyone else's.
Absolute nightmare fits!! Yes!!
Thanks!
Will MSMA kill fescue grass?
I think I have a dallis grass lawn. I despise this stuff. Aaahhgg
very helpful thank you!
I don’t know what to do. I have st augustine, centipede, and Bermuda in my yard. And Dallas grass is in all of it. It’s the worst in the Bermuda. I think I’m gonna have to call a pro. This is stressing me OUT. I got it bad. Yard was neglected by the previous owner.
Sounds like a difficult lawn to handle.