Fitted alumask for about 20 years. Not too popular with domestic properties mainly because of its price. It comes bare or stove enamelled. If you live by the sea you must use stove enamelled as bare Alumask rots in sea air. If you cut the stove enamelled gutter. Always make sure you have a pot of matching touch up paint to seal the ends. Don’t let the alumask come into contact with the cast iron rainwater conductor offset. Always insert a non conductive adapter between them.
Lifts long section with one hand, between thumb and a couple of fingers: 2:29 "I'm not sure if that's cast iron?".. Nope. It's defo not cast iron, mate. Cracking job, btw, and really useful for my own situation. Cheers, pal.
Hats off to you doing such a mammoth diy job. Have done a few this year but am definitely suffering from diy fatigue and just watching you makes me to want to never pick up a tool ever again, until next year of course.
We used to have a similar house in Derbyshire, but it had timber gutters. The joins always leaked, even after bitumen inside. We decided to have one piece aluminium with ogee profile made on-site out of the back of the van. It looked exactly like the wooden ones from ground level. Best of all, no maintenance or leaks. We liked the idea of keeping the original, but if modern stuff performs better and looks the same......... Good luck.
John Seddon We did the same on our house - looks great with no seams and nice not to have to think about the inevitable moment when a seam expands and the guttering starts leaking. I would highly recommend seamless aluminium powder coated guttering - not particularly cheap but a good product.
I'd replace all the barge/fascias and soffits and while doing the guttering, treat the ends of the roof timbers that you have access too if possible. I use stainless fixings for anything thats outside and going to get exposure to the weather.
Face it Tim. When was last time anyone put scaffolding around your roof like this. Maybe not since it was built. Asume everything needs replacing. I was naive enough to think some of my stuff could be reused - I was wrong.
Good luck with the rainwater project. I'm changing my 1960's plastic for shiny new Floplast black plastic. Need to repaint the facia and sofit first but a much easier project thankfully.
Makes sense that the back of the cast gutters were more rusted, even if they were painted before installation, they would never haave been painted again, only the bits they could reach.
Happy birthday (for whenever this was filmed). Doing a similar job - my cast iron guttering has long since been replaced with 'too small' plastic, but still got casst iron downpipes.
We used to have cast iron gutters - every spring it was a battle to make them: work - eventually to the detriment of the house becoming damp so i ended up replacing with plastic, problem solved. Not so pretty but worked. Be careful when fitting the cast iron as they are so brittle when tightening the fixing bolts. Rise/fall brackets worked well to get the correct level. Perhaps get aluminium matching for the front.
Hi, might be easier buying new cast iron guttering than buying old reclaimed stuff which might break whilst you're fettling it. Drain Center & Marshalls sell the guttering. Good luck with the project.
I need to replace my guttering it's aluminium but it was installed really bad the water runs away from the down pipes but not as high as yours great video.
Looks like you’ve under slate gutter brackets (hard to tell from video).. I’d replace this with the versions you put into stone wall with a rise/fall adjustment. The under slate ones just offer no flexibility at all.. so if you knock gutters with ladder etc, you’ve got to try and bend them back up. Utter pain in the bottom.
They are just flush fitted to fascia with screws. The stone versions probably wouldn’t work with depth of soffits we have. Neighbours have them on their cast but no facia or soffits.
It looks like they used to be a glass roofed Veranda out back so I can only assumed that it was like a snow bar, it’s not like it would have stopped slates unless it used to have some mesh too. 🤷♂️
@@TheRestorationCouple My first thought was a snow bar when I saw it - but then Somerset isn't exactly known for it's Alpine landscapes and heavy winters (although snow was more common 100+ years ago?). I'm not sure what else it could be - it doesn't look decorative, or that it would help with roof maintenance. And snow build up on the exposed side of the roof, turning to ice and falling on to a glass veranda could do a lot of damage - as that's easily a few hundred kilos.
Got a roof problem myself, the old barn timbers are in a poor state due to water ingress. Only discovered due to a few tiles falling off. Temp repair for this winter. But do you have any experience or knowledge how to replace a gable end cross beam. 20cm X 20cm approx 8m long? Summer job I think.
Agree with this. If you kept wood windows then going the whole hog with cast iron makes sense. However with PC windows I think he should just go with plastic. Keep the wood boarding though. Pvc fascia is so ugly in my opinion.
If your looking for solutions you could look on some of the land rover forums the old series land rovers have a steel chassis and aluminum body so their might be some solutions they have came up with that might be of help
Replace all of the soffits, don’t attempt to use any of the iron fixings since they will likely be rotten in the end. It’s a mess trying to pair aluminum with iron ad well. Also, copper gutters may be your best bet. They can last as long as slate and do not rot like iron.
Something I have almost never heard an American say but seems to be somewhat common in the commonwealth is "in situ." The first time my Canadian wife said it I was like, wut? LOL Anyway, jup Tim, just paint it in place. :D
A gutter system is designed for thr roof area if you are taking away a down spout you should increase the gutter size to take account of this.there are sites that provide information on number and positions etc
Tip on dirty aluminium. Don't try welding it. The heartache & technicalities of getting it right is not worth it. Are you sure you want use reclaimed cast iron gutters? Cast iron being brittle, you could end up with a problem down the road if something was to hit it during a storm. I'd probably go with the aluminium gutters if it was my house Tim. Oh, happy belated birthday.
Hi Tim, I got the same Makita tool belt for my birthday this year, how are you finding it? A but self conscious at first but great when up ladders or scaffold.
I would definitely try and stick with some sort of metal guttering, plastic is just complete junk in comparison, the joints always leak eventually. I really like that Blachotrapez system from 'the guy in Bristol' but I suspect the half round pattern wouldn't suit the design of the house. Personally, not a fan of the ogee profile but I guess it is traditional.
might regret taking gutters and facias off before stripping the roof they help to catch a lot of the crap that comes down and there will be a lot of crap
Given the aluminum guttering is still a current product I wonder if it's better to use it all the way around and recycle the cast iron pieces for somebody else to use?
Yes, it’s still the same product. Costs about twice cast iron. I think the issue with the stuff we had is that it was just hand painted so hopefully getting it powder coated will give it more longevity. Will do some sums to see what would be needed around the front. 😀
Get the whole lot ripped off, guttering, facias, soffets and lob them in the skip. Not worth the chew on. Get reproduction pvc guttering in black. Much cheaper less hassle and a lot quicker and no painting
Not keen on using black and don’t intend on using any plastic up there if I can avoid it. Certainly a good and quicker option in many situations though. My folks used it on theirs and looks great, even the hoppers are quite convincing 👍
Ha.... Seems a bit funny, I was in a restoration yard the other day an got rather excited that they had loads of cast guttering, down pipes an funnel spout things in different shapes an sizes.... An then this randomly comes up on my feed... Ha how about that... Interesting
If your not strapped for cash get some copper ones made up companys come out and make them to measure on site for you if not mate get plastic I wouldn't bother with cast iron way too much faffing especially with how high your roof is I dont think the time and effort will be well spent on those gutters tim
Fitted alumask for about 20 years. Not too popular with domestic properties mainly because of its price. It comes bare or stove enamelled. If you live by the sea you must use stove enamelled as bare Alumask rots in sea air. If you cut the stove enamelled gutter. Always make sure you have a pot of matching touch up paint to seal the ends. Don’t let the alumask come into contact with the cast iron rainwater conductor offset. Always insert a non conductive adapter between them.
Lifts long section with one hand, between thumb and a couple of fingers: 2:29 "I'm not sure if that's cast iron?".. Nope. It's defo not cast iron, mate. Cracking job, btw, and really useful for my own situation. Cheers, pal.
Happy Birthday Tim! Reckon your best present will be a spell of dry weather!
Hats off to you doing such a mammoth diy job. Have done a few this year but am definitely suffering from diy fatigue and just watching you makes me to want to never pick up a tool ever again, until next year of course.
We used to have a similar house in Derbyshire, but it had timber gutters. The joins always leaked, even after bitumen inside. We decided to have one piece aluminium with ogee profile made on-site out of the back of the van. It looked exactly like the wooden ones from ground level. Best of all, no maintenance or leaks. We liked the idea of keeping the original, but if modern stuff performs better and looks the same.........
Good luck.
John Seddon We did the same on our house - looks great with no seams and nice not to have to think about the inevitable moment when a seam expands and the guttering starts leaking. I would highly recommend seamless aluminium powder coated guttering - not particularly cheap but a good product.
Definitely the best solution. Ogee guttering off a roll either copper or aluminium, no joints or leaks. Fix and forget.
I'd replace all the barge/fascias and soffits and while doing the guttering, treat the ends of the roof timbers that you have access too if possible.
I use stainless fixings for anything thats outside and going to get exposure to the weather.
Don't mix stainless steel (fasteners) and aluminium (gutters), though. The galvanic reaction will destroy them.
🎉 🎶 HAPPY 🎊 BIRTHDAY 🎶 🎉 TIM 🥳
Happy birthday. That's commitment to spend your birthday removing ancient guttering 👍👍
Happy birthday Tim, love the channel and that you have seem to have the same birthdays as I do.
Face it Tim. When was last time anyone put scaffolding around your roof like this. Maybe not since it was built. Asume everything needs replacing. I was naive enough to think some of my stuff could be reused - I was wrong.
Happy birthday!
Watched a great video from Build with A&E this morning replacing a slate roof, well worth a watch ahead of tackling yours mate
Link?
Happy Birthday Tim! Great content as always
I would use crown solo oil based gloss and undercoat for all the painting👍great quality and does not yellow after time
Happy birthday 🥳
as your on it Tim I would replace the lot makes the life a lot easier.
Happy Birthday, Tim! Glad you're being safe with this huge undertaking. Great video as always.
Good luck with the rainwater project.
I'm changing my 1960's plastic for shiny new Floplast black plastic.
Need to repaint the facia and sofit first but a much easier project thankfully.
Guttercrest.
Wow Tim, thats looking like one of them jobs you start and then wish you had got someone in.....been there before! Good luck!
Happy Be-lated Birthday Tim.... I think you are very brave, doing all that roof mostly by yourself.
Brave or stupid, most likely stupid!! 🙄
Happy Birthday Tim, stay safe up there.
Happy birthday, I hope you had a wonderful, and blessed day.
Might as well reuse what you can. Can’t wait for the next video 👍
Happy Belated Birthday Tim...big job ahead for you..🥰🇦🇺
Makes sense that the back of the cast gutters were more rusted, even if they were painted before installation, they would never haave been painted again, only the bits they could reach.
Good point.thanks
Happy birthday Tim.
Alumasc...about a mile away from me...mainly make beer barrels and roofing products I think!
Happy birthday (for whenever this was filmed). Doing a similar job - my cast iron guttering has long since been replaced with 'too small' plastic, but still got casst iron downpipes.
Guttercrest. Give it 'em a look.
"Grotty." I haven't heard that word since the 60', when I was a die-hard Beatles fan (still am)! Be careful up there!! And Happy Birthday!
We used to have cast iron gutters - every spring it was a battle to make them: work - eventually to the detriment of the house becoming damp so i ended up replacing with plastic, problem solved. Not so pretty but worked. Be careful when fitting the cast iron as they are so brittle when tightening the fixing bolts. Rise/fall brackets worked well to get the correct level.
Perhaps get aluminium matching for the front.
I've seen galvanised gutters on old houses, they look good and they develop a nice patina over time..
The first gutter you pulled off looked to me to be galvanized metal. I did a lot of repainting of galvanized metal gutter when I was a teenager.
It was all cast aluminium. They were stamped on the back. 👍 did look like galvanised though.
Hi, might be easier buying new cast iron guttering than buying old reclaimed stuff which might break whilst you're fettling it. Drain Center & Marshalls sell the guttering. Good luck with the project.
I need to replace my guttering it's aluminium but it was installed really bad the water runs away from the down pipes but not as high as yours great video.
Happy birthday mate
Happy Birthday.
Looks like you’ve under slate gutter brackets (hard to tell from video).. I’d replace this with the versions you put into stone wall with a rise/fall adjustment.
The under slate ones just offer no flexibility at all.. so if you knock gutters with ladder etc, you’ve got to try and bend them back up. Utter pain in the bottom.
They are just flush fitted to fascia with screws. The stone versions probably wouldn’t work with depth of soffits we have. Neighbours have them on their cast but no facia or soffits.
The Restoration Couple Grand, facia ones are prob easier to wrangle than the rafter ones! Good luck.
You may have explained in an earlier video but I've missed or forgotten - what was the purpose of the "big old bar"?
It looks like they used to be a glass roofed Veranda out back so I can only assumed that it was like a snow bar, it’s not like it would have stopped slates unless it used to have some mesh too. 🤷♂️
Was just going to ask the same question. Never seen the like before
It's just pigeons toilette.
@@TheRestorationCouple My first thought was a snow bar when I saw it - but then Somerset isn't exactly known for it's Alpine landscapes and heavy winters (although snow was more common 100+ years ago?). I'm not sure what else it could be - it doesn't look decorative, or that it would help with roof maintenance. And snow build up on the exposed side of the roof, turning to ice and falling on to a glass veranda could do a lot of damage - as that's easily a few hundred kilos.
Happy belated birthday!
I don’t know what’s the story in the UK but I’m a fan of long run copper gutters.
Happy birthday
Mine was yesterday happy birthday.
Got a roof problem myself, the old barn timbers are in a poor state due to water ingress. Only discovered due to a few tiles falling off. Temp repair for this winter. But do you have any experience or knowledge how to replace a gable end cross beam. 20cm X 20cm approx 8m long? Summer job I think.
looks like someone got a birthday toolbelt!
Little gift to myself! 😂
You can get reproduction plastic guttering that looks exactly the same as cast not to expensive either.
Agree with this. If you kept wood windows then going the whole hog with cast iron makes sense. However with PC windows I think he should just go with plastic. Keep the wood boarding though. Pvc fascia is so ugly in my opinion.
You might want to consider galvanic rust happening between the aluminum and the cast iron
Yeah good point, and fixings I guess. I think it will be one or the other on each side. Turns out some of the down pipes were Aluminium too. 👍
If your looking for solutions you could look on some of the land rover forums the old series land rovers have a steel chassis and aluminum body so their might be some solutions they have came up with that might be of help
Replace all of the soffits, don’t attempt to use any of the iron fixings since they will likely be rotten in the end. It’s a mess trying to pair aluminum with iron ad well.
Also, copper gutters may be your best bet. They can last as long as slate and do not rot like iron.
5:54 Is the back bad from touching the wood and staying wet ? Everything else was able to dry out.
Just where it’s not painted and the cast iron had not been able to dry I guess.
Something I have almost never heard an American say but seems to be somewhat common in the commonwealth is "in situ." The first time my Canadian wife said it I was like, wut? LOL Anyway, jup Tim, just paint it in place. :D
A gutter system is designed for thr roof area if you are taking away a down spout you should increase the gutter size to take account of this.there are sites that provide information on number and positions etc
It’s a single downpipe on the other side for same length roof so hopefully fine but will double check. 👍
Tip on dirty aluminium. Don't try welding it. The heartache & technicalities of getting it right is not worth it. Are you sure you want use reclaimed cast iron gutters? Cast iron being brittle, you could end up with a problem down the road if something was to hit it during a storm. I'd probably go with the aluminium gutters if it was my house Tim. Oh, happy belated birthday.
Hi Tim, I got the same Makita tool belt for my birthday this year, how are you finding it? A but self conscious at first but great when up ladders or scaffold.
It’s great, way better than my previous leather one. Super comfortable too. 👍
Replace for aluminium as will not corrode.
I would definitely try and stick with some sort of metal guttering, plastic is just complete junk in comparison, the joints always leak eventually. I really like that Blachotrapez system from 'the guy in Bristol' but I suspect the half round pattern wouldn't suit the design of the house. Personally, not a fan of the ogee profile but I guess it is traditional.
I couldn't find any gutters on that company site. Lots of companies now supply galv gutters.
might regret taking gutters and facias off before stripping the roof they help to catch a lot of the crap that comes down and there will be a lot of crap
2:54 I thought it was galvanized steel .
So did I at first, turns out it’s a cast aluminium replica product. Still sold today. 👍
Etching primer before painting
What does the bar do?
What was the bar along the guttering for?
what was the bar for if I may ask
Not a nice way to be spending your birthday,but happy birthday to you🎂
Change all the wood while you're up there. Penblwydd hapus cariad!
Is that bar for leaning a ladder on.
@7:34 What is the name and purpose of the bar above the guttering and at the bottom edge of the roof?
Snow catcher.
Given the aluminum guttering is still a current product I wonder if it's better to use it all the way around and recycle the cast iron pieces for somebody else to use?
Yes, it’s still the same product. Costs about twice cast iron. I think the issue with the stuff we had is that it was just hand painted so hopefully getting it powder coated will give it more longevity. Will do some sums to see what would be needed around the front. 😀
Statistics show that those who have the most birthdays, live the longest.
Blimey, looks like a 3m length of that profiled alumasc gutter is about £100! No wonder you're going to keep and restore!
I know! 😬
Would of had scaffolding 2 or 3 foot lower
Isn’t there a modern alternative that looks like cast iron still?
There's still cast iron! My 140 year old cast pipes are still in good knick.
Wack some plastic up and save youself a lot of expense and maintenance, get the right profile and no one will know from the ground, lifes too short
Or galvanised, look good on old houses
Why not replace the front in copper? Possibly cheaper option and will look amazing... and should last over 100 years
Looking at copper for the workshop actually. Prefer to go with colour matched painted guttering to match everything else. 👍
Please! Less pigeon pooh! Please!
Get the whole lot ripped off, guttering, facias, soffets and lob them in the skip. Not worth the chew on. Get reproduction pvc guttering in black. Much cheaper less hassle and a lot quicker and no painting
Not keen on using black and don’t intend on using any plastic up there if I can avoid it. Certainly a good and quicker option in many situations though. My folks used it on theirs and looks great, even the hoppers are quite convincing 👍
Ha.... Seems a bit funny, I was in a restoration yard the other day an got rather excited that they had loads of cast guttering, down pipes an funnel spout things in different shapes an sizes.... An then this randomly comes up on my feed... Ha how about that... Interesting
I wish you would wear eye protection.
Happy birthday another virgo
You have your work cut out for you
Fuck the cast and ali stuff off get a plastic replica of the original stuff be much easier and cheaper and will look the same from the ground.
I don't think I've seen Tim grimace as much as this. A thoroughly unpleasant and exposed job. Well done for tackling it though.
Tim, check your FB/messenger please :-)
replace the lot in plastic lasts forever looks as good n a damn site cheaper n more reliable
If your not strapped for cash get some copper ones made up companys come out and make them to measure on site for you if not mate get plastic I wouldn't bother with cast iron way too much faffing especially with how high your roof is I dont think the time and effort will be well spent on those gutters tim
Bit too much marketing now happening on this channel.
Why, what am I selling??
Happy Birthday Tim
Happy Birthday!
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday 🥳