Alternative Europe: 1939-1948 || Parts I - III

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  • Опубліковано 2 лют 2025

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  • @Worldball_mapping
    @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +28

    The essence of alternative history is that it doesn’t necessarily have to be realistic - it is precisely meant to imagine possible, but unrealized scenarios. For example, during World War II, many people believed the Germans had no chance against France, yet they defeated it in just a few weeks. This shows that history can sometimes take unexpected and unlikely turns, and that alternative scenarios allow us to explore what could have happened if events had unfolded differently. It's a creative exercise, not an exact reconstruction of history. Additionally, keep in mind that there could have been secret missions, such as an agreement between the U.S. and Spain for Spain to withdraw from the Axis alliance and allow U.S. ships to pass through and land troops in North Africa (Algeria). Alternative scenarios give us the chance to consider such possible events, which might not be fully addressed or explored in this video.
    So please refrain from commenting on the unrealistic aspects, as how do you know whether this could have happened or not? Thank you and enjoy the video!

  • @D_Socha
    @D_Socha Місяць тому +26

    Apparently the history has been changed so much that 1942 happens twice in this timeline.

  • @GoPterosaur
    @GoPterosaur Місяць тому +124

    Unrealistic but still interesting

    • @villagernumber7882
      @villagernumber7882 Місяць тому +5

      We share the same opinion it seems.

    • @VONDOR_TV
      @VONDOR_TV Місяць тому +9

      I mean it's a alternative history 🧠

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +19

      Technically, almost everything in this video is unrealistic because it didn't happen, but it could have happened because we don't know what could have happened and what didn't.Thanks for the comment!

    • @edseifert4610
      @edseifert4610 Місяць тому +2

      None of this could've happened 😂 laughable you would say it could ​@@Worldball_mapping

    • @pumpkingamer9
      @pumpkingamer9 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@edseifert4610 called alternative history for a reason

  • @MireilleDriessen-rb2nn
    @MireilleDriessen-rb2nn 24 дні тому +19

    The fact that the allies still won even though germany had entire europe is just crazy💀💀

    • @Hispano1
      @Hispano1 17 днів тому +1

      When you got the rest of the world against you is not that hard to lose

    • @TeoDP7
      @TeoDP7 12 днів тому

      There letters: U.S.A.

    • @sametnj
      @sametnj 7 днів тому +1

      Germany won in a 1939 perspective

    • @ВадимТитов-я7к
      @ВадимТитов-я7к 22 години тому

      Союзникам допомогло повстання Ряданського Союза. Вони з двох боків душили Германію ,але в певний момент видохлись для великих наступів й підписали мир ,де Ось достаточно сильна.

  • @arthurluisaustrio
    @arthurluisaustrio Місяць тому +38

    Italy in final: My colonies!

  • @pietrocardinali8884
    @pietrocardinali8884 20 днів тому +4

    The map animation is amazing
    Congratulations

  • @The7from2287
    @The7from2287 15 днів тому +5

    Nice video! But I suggest you make the puppets brighter than the Reichkommisariats, or make the Reichkommisariats darker

  • @Alex_24-j5w
    @Alex_24-j5w Місяць тому +2

    I would really like to see a Part 4 because it would be really interesting how this would continue

  • @mrman0002
    @mrman0002 11 днів тому +3

    Turkey just watching the sinema

    • @sametnj
      @sametnj 7 днів тому

      Turkey 🤝 Switzerland

  • @eriknovak1499
    @eriknovak1499 19 днів тому +4

    This is a high quality video although with some unrealistic things, but anyway.
    1 How strong is Germany in cold war?
    2 How Himmler will led Germany?
    3 Will be there space race?

    • @georgeousthegorgeous
      @georgeousthegorgeous 10 днів тому +1

      1. Brutally powerful, easily surpassing USSR and a close US rival in everything
      2. Slavery, esoteric nazism with an extreme focus on racial purity, totalitarian control over every aspect of daily life and ultra militarism. Google Burgundian system to understand it better.
      3. OFC, why wouldn’t it be?

  • @HeadsetHatGuy
    @HeadsetHatGuy Місяць тому +10

    7:28 ngl the speech fits well with the music 🔥

  • @BosnianMaps
    @BosnianMaps 9 днів тому +3

    still waiting for IV part!

  • @BayramovNemet922
    @BayramovNemet922 18 днів тому +1

    This is good 🎉🎉

  • @remixgameyt1172
    @remixgameyt1172 Місяць тому +7

    Could have never feasibly happened, but interesting to watch
    Adressing the comment by the author: Yes, the people of the time didn't expect France to lose, but looking at it retrospectively with the modern knowledge, it's obvious that their defeat was certain and predetermined. Britain on the other hand, again looking retrospectively, was nearly unconquerable (in short term at least, and the time to starve them down Hitler did not have)

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +1

      I understand, but what if the Germans had devoted more resources and time to air and naval forces before the war? What if the entire British army had been destroyed at Dunkirk? There are various scenarios and possibilities that we don't know about, and maybe it would have worked out? But anyway, thanks for the comment and your opinion!

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for your support!

    • @remixgameyt1172
      @remixgameyt1172 Місяць тому

      @@Worldball_mapping Yeah, I am open to historical discussions on these themes, and about how potentially realistic they are.
      About the Navy and Air: if they devoted more resources to Air and Navy (before WW2 began), they'd have to take them away from the land army, potentially (and likely) ruining Blitzkrieg (due to a lack of armored vehicles to carry out the Blitz operations.)
      If however they devoted more resources to it after France fell, well... They already did, and tried bombing Britain into the ground and tried to blockade them, however both failed because A) Britain was much more capable of replenishing their airforce B) Britain just had a better and bigger naval fleet, and it innovated on that fleet throughout the war, rendering the UBoats ineffective.
      About the fall of Dunkirk. Yes, it maybe could've happened, if Germans were more lucky. However the problem is not the event happening, but its consequences. Britain at the time of Dunkirk had its war cabinet composed of pro-war politicians. The only one standing out was Lord Halifax, and even he just wanted to see what Germans would offer in peace (and likely reject it)

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +1

      @@remixgameyt1172 I respect your opinion, thank you.

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      @@qinjiwei5058
      I have read many historical books about World War II and am very knowledgeable on this topic. While I agree that Churchill categoricaly rejected any negotiations with Germany, your claim that Britain still had "enough divisions" to defend itself even if the army at Dunkirk had been destroyed or captured is unfounded.
      Dunkirk was critically important not only for saving troops but also for maintaining Britain’s military capabilities. Around 338,000 British and Allied troops were evacuated from Dunkirk, forming the backbone of Britain’s most experienced and battle-hardened forces. If these forces had been lost, Britain would have been left almost entirely without a professional army, as the reserves consisted mostly of poorly trained and inexperienced divisions.
      At that time, Britain’s defensive structure was extremely weak. Most of the equipment left behind at Dunkirk (around 2,500 artillery, 84,000 vehicles, 20,000 motorcycles, and nearly all heavy weapons) was lost. This meant that even the remaining divisions were severely under-equipped for effective combat. Without the forces rescued at Dunkirk, Britain would have had to rely on just a few fully formed units, which would not have been sufficient for proper defense.
      It’s also important to mention that the German invasion plan (“Operation Sea Lion”) was a real threat. If the Germans had gained air superiority over the English Channel (which they aimed to achieve during the Battle of Britain), they could have prepared an invasion, as the Royal Navy would not have been able to operate effectively without air support. Without the troops rescued from Dunkirk, defending against such an invasion would have been nearly impossible.
      Therefore, to say that Britain could still defend itself even after losing the army at Dunkirk is incorrect. The destruction of the British Expeditionary Force would have left the country with unprepared and poorly equipped divisions, incapable of repelling a German invasion. Under such circumstances, Britain’s survival would have depended solely on German strategic mistakes or unexpected Allied intervention, rather than the strength of Britain’s remaining forces.
      Thanks

  • @gotenks_goat2618
    @gotenks_goat2618 4 дні тому +1

    portugal:DONT LEAVE ME HERE!

  • @MCLegend13
    @MCLegend13 Місяць тому +5

    This video: Germany conquers Britain.
    Royal Navy: clearly someone forgot i existed
    The Germans could absolutely under no circumstances invade Britain the Kreigsmarine was an absolute joke way too small.

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +1

      @@MCLegend13 The Germans devoted a lot of resources to the naval forces before the war, the Germans won the air battle against Britain, and without air support, the Royal Navy is no longer so powerful .
      Thanks for comment anyways

    • @MCLegend13
      @MCLegend13 Місяць тому +2

      @@Worldball_mapping and thanks for the reply.
      But no the British had more industrial complex and air bases up north, out of. The Luftwaffes range and a common Misconception is that The Luftwaffe vastly outnumbered the RAF where in bombers they did out number them but the RAF at many points of the battle had superior numbers of Fighters.
      Also Germanys Maritime infrastructure was still devastated after the Treaty of Versailles that’s one aspect of the treaty that the British maintained surprisingly well.
      Germany has at best 3 yards to work on where as the British have 11, and if you push it as many as 15 yards to work with, Germany doesn’t have the same resources as Britain due to the empire, Britain also has industrial basis in Canada and Australia adding it all together The Entire British Empire has got almost as many naval yards as America.
      And all that put together means no matter how much Germany builds Britain would build at least 3 to 5 times more.
      At best Opperation Sea Lion would allow Germany to capture most of the south coast and maybe a few city’s further inland but once the RAF from further north and the main Home fleet of the Royal Navy destroys the invasion fleet and blocks the re supply it’s over for the Germans.
      I’m sorry but people severely overestimate the Germans but they really are not as good as many claim them to be and they have just as many issues as the French do in some ways.
      Still an interesting video.

    • @Vince_ExE
      @Vince_ExE Місяць тому

      ​​@@MCLegend13 agree with you, plus the Germans knew in advance that their Reich won't last Longer

  • @Roman_General
    @Roman_General Місяць тому +5

    I know it takes a lot of time and effort to make mapping videos, especially ones this good so thank you for making this

  • @TheRomanianmapper2025
    @TheRomanianmapper2025 Місяць тому +7

    Very good video my friend! It was some time since we talked.
    You're an awesome mapper just like me. Mappers like us shape the community and I am glad that we still know each other! Greetings from Romania my friend! 🇷🇴🔥🇱🇹

  • @alexanderkowolowski5194
    @alexanderkowolowski5194 15 днів тому +1

    Luftwaffe crushes the RAF… yeah right :D

  • @nekkampa5902
    @nekkampa5902 Місяць тому +2

    Non historical mod be like

  • @Bartholomew-h9q
    @Bartholomew-h9q Місяць тому +2

    This is good. +1 subscriber now :D (that's all im saying so ye)

  • @FEDERAL_SERVICE_FOR_ANOMALIES
    @FEDERAL_SERVICE_FOR_ANOMALIES Місяць тому +3

    A world where the USSR is without lend lease

    • @ZOV_kakashkeVirus42
      @ZOV_kakashkeVirus42 12 днів тому

      "As a rule, pindos will never give up the opportunity to flatter themselves"
      Since 1942, the USSR's industry has been more powerful than any other country in the world, they simply didn't needed any lendlease allies could provide. The only thing Stalin was asking is opening the second front

    • @ukasz-ss2jy
      @ukasz-ss2jy 11 днів тому

      ​@@ZOV_kakashkeVirus42"don't needed" for sure

    • @ZOV_kakashkeVirus42
      @ZOV_kakashkeVirus42 11 днів тому

      @@ukasz-ss2jy ""don't needed" for sure" for sure

    • @ukasz-ss2jy
      @ukasz-ss2jy 11 днів тому

      @ average Z ombie russian

  • @josenava3519
    @josenava3519 18 днів тому +1

    The history is very interesant, but as the allies crossed from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean if it was defended

  • @Cheberek1870
    @Cheberek1870 13 днів тому +1

    При разгроме Британии и СССР США не смогли бы победить без масштабной ядерной бомбардировки

  • @Scober420
    @Scober420 Місяць тому +7

    the peace is crazy, the germans were losing on all fronts and still got land

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, but all sides decided not to fight after Hitler's death because there were no more resources, money, human resources, morale, the countries were all completely exhausted. But thanks for the comment

    • @Vince_ExE
      @Vince_ExE Місяць тому

      Does in this Timeline Nazi Germany Reconize their Genocides and tries to build memorials or no is again the hope.of the Aryan Race expansion ? ​@@Worldball_mapping

  • @HTHM-x3n
    @HTHM-x3n 11 днів тому +2

    ❤❤😂🎉🎉😢😢😮😅😊😊

  • @ThePoisonousCheese
    @ThePoisonousCheese Місяць тому +2

    Definitely unique from other scenarios.

  • @imfamous_neptunian
    @imfamous_neptunian Місяць тому +3

    awesome

  • @Floppa15888
    @Floppa15888 Місяць тому +1

    What if soviet Union had civil wars in 1990

  • @Paraíbano_Mapping_e_Geografia
    @Paraíbano_Mapping_e_Geografia Місяць тому +3

    Saudi Arabia did not even enter the WW2 and Cold War

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      Saudi Arabia will join in the next episode, thanks for the comment!

  • @Tomahawak6712
    @Tomahawak6712 Місяць тому

    What website do you use to do your mapping? On this specific style, I'll recommend my friends your channel too.

  • @C.A._Old
    @C.A._Old Місяць тому

    make the terminator scenario.

  • @Gaffal-md5xs
    @Gaffal-md5xs Місяць тому +4

    Himmler and peace ?

  • @flame9826
    @flame9826 Місяць тому +1

    11:55 makes no sense for USSR to give Odessa up. Would make sense to just restore the old border there

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      Yes, but after the peace treaty it was agreed that the Soviet Union would not receive Odessa

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      By the way it is an alternative world, so it could have happened a lot of things

  • @AcelRomanBeat
    @AcelRomanBeat 20 днів тому

    after so many won battles and allies, the germans wouldve been unstoppable. The soviets wouldnt have a chance to coup. The german garrison is too harsh. I understand its unrealistic, but lets be real.

  • @moldovanmapping7178
    @moldovanmapping7178 Місяць тому

    Y'all this is alternate it doesn't have to be realistic in this timeline

  • @wildy475
    @wildy475 20 днів тому

    There a making colourfull world into black and grey 😅

  • @ZacheVR-gtag
    @ZacheVR-gtag Місяць тому +1

    italian mapper tutorials having a field day but very good video

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      Thanks, by the way, I didn't watch his tutorial, here is one of the most basic map styles without any details

    • @ZacheVR-gtag
      @ZacheVR-gtag Місяць тому

      @@Worldball_mapping oh lol i thought you did this is a very well put together video then

  • @НиколайШерипов
    @НиколайШерипов Місяць тому +1

    Is that a TNO reference?

  • @momo_lite9230
    @momo_lite9230 17 днів тому

    Ojala... Esa eficiencia se hubiera usdo para hacer el bien...

  • @RomeoGarboMC
    @RomeoGarboMC Місяць тому

    There will be part 4?

  • @Ferno-k7o
    @Ferno-k7o Місяць тому

    What programe do u use?

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      @@Ferno-k7o paint.net

    • @Ferno-k7o
      @Ferno-k7o 29 днів тому

      @Worldball_mapping i mean all programs i wanna make a make like you not just animation if there is a tutorial send link pleasee

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  29 днів тому

      @Ferno-k7o ua-cam.com/video/IotvQtFL56E/v-deo.htmlsi=rfBczsoNpJa6Vuqq

  • @Союз_228
    @Союз_228 11 днів тому

    История нелюби сослагательного наклонение

  • @Filip-ox7df
    @Filip-ox7df 3 дні тому

    USSR would be able to push

  • @Filip-ox7df
    @Filip-ox7df 3 дні тому

    If ussr fell they wouldn’t come back USA also wouldn’t be able to land in uk bruh

  • @CorruptedMoney
    @CorruptedMoney Місяць тому +3

    First like and comment❤

  • @Randompplfr
    @Randompplfr Місяць тому

    Italian mapper Style?

  • @lorenamedina2022
    @lorenamedina2022 Місяць тому

    What is the song you used and 5:31 Since 8:00

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      all music and speeches are in the description

    • @lorenamedina2022
      @lorenamedina2022 Місяць тому

      In The description only Appears hit man

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      @@lorenamedina2022 ЖЕСТЬ!!! САМАЯ МОЩНАЯ И ЖЕСТКАЯ ВОЕННАЯ МУЗЫКА!!! (song)

    • @lorenamedina2022
      @lorenamedina2022 Місяць тому

      Thank you

  • @Heitor-p6q
    @Heitor-p6q Місяць тому +1

    Nice but the german reich borders not terrible in quality, but rather, terribly innacurate

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      Thanks. And in which year do the German borders seem inaccurate?

    • @Heitor-p6q
      @Heitor-p6q Місяць тому

      ​​​​​​@@Worldball_mapping Reichskommissariat Belgien-Nordfrankreich, Reichskommissariat, bulgarian borders, the division of yugoslavia,Bezirk Bialystok, Romanian Transnistria, the ethnic division of borders between switzerland and italy, hungarian carpathia ruthenia, italy wouldve annexed Corsica, puppet algeria, egypt, greece

  • @norlex416
    @norlex416 Місяць тому +2

    How did USA manage to invade North Africa ?

    • @Gleb_Show_Graine
      @Gleb_Show_Graine Місяць тому +1

      one word "Oil"

    • @orionstarsz
      @orionstarsz Місяць тому

      Thats probably the most unrealistic part of the video tbh

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      Reasons for the successful offensive:
      1. Small concentration of German forces in North Africa (mostly Italian)
      2. Spanish-US joint agreement on Spain's withdrawal from the Axis, and later joining the Allies, the passage of US and Allied ships through the Strait of Gibraltar. This agreement recognized the territories occupied by Spain and promised economic aid.
      3. The US war machine was focused on the European war and had been preparing for war since 1939, because the Japanese had not declared war on the US (I did not show this in this video because it is a European video)
      4. And finally, resources, the US has a lot of them, especially with help from India, Australia, Brazil, Indonesia and more, they had a lot of resources for the war.
      But thank you for watching.

  • @leszektyczynski5370
    @leszektyczynski5370 14 днів тому

    4:33 ta Szwajcaria

  • @Imidk-qx8zo
    @Imidk-qx8zo Місяць тому

    10th like 4th comment and 1 hour ago im late

  • @BosnianMaps
    @BosnianMaps Місяць тому +2

    first

  • @ярыкярык-ч1ы
    @ярыкярык-ч1ы Місяць тому

    Usa very Overethed

    • @Worldball_mapping
      @Worldball_mapping  Місяць тому

      The US has enormous resources, especially with the help of the Allies, they have been preparing for war since 1939, they did not go to war with the Japanese