Trangia Non Stick Vs Titanium Frypan - Pancakes
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2020
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The titanium frypan has arrived so i thought i would do a shootout between the Trangia non stick and the titanium frying pan. As it's pancake day it was obvious what i would cook.
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Titanium, lightweight, tough great for boiling water poor for cooking food with. Its pretty much the worst metal you can use for food/fry pans because it simply does not spread heat, it creates 'hot spots' so no matter how well you season the pan it will still stick.
I always enjoy watching Paul work his magic with a Trangia Burner. Makes me want to get out and use mine every time.
Good! Thanks for video!👍
Good fair review.. Nice one 👍🏼
I would stay with the non stick I do believe Paul.
Yep for sure
Thanks, Paul. You flip like a pro! I have a Trangia 27 pan which tends to stick and burn. I think I will try seasoning it as you suggested.
Thanks Jan
As you see seasoning the pan is important
Thank you for the good demonstration with the titanium pan. I would enjoy seeing a seasoned pan test like you say. I am really enjoying your videos!
When it's seasoned i will do another test. Thanks Frederick
Very good show thanks
Thanks Willis
That was a way better crepe than I was expecting on a titanium pan, about the hardest thing to cook on titanium.
The issue is that titanium is very light, but it's not lighter than aluminum, bet because it is so much stronger, the titanium pan is thiner, but still stronger than aluminum. The problem is this makes for poor heat transfer within the titanium, coupled with titanium quickly transferring heat, you get massive hot spots on titanium pans that make it hard to cook evenly. You did a great job, especially for never cooking on it before.
Love the cooking vids Paul great to watch but not at 12 :18am when i should be asleep and not craving grub 😂.
Thanks Paul.
Cheers Richard
Perfect * Comparison/demonstration * Double perfect flipping :-) Sending well wishes to both you & Peter *
Thanks you ;)
Cool test Paul! Pancakes on Trangia is classic!
Thanks Mattias
Only just come to your channel recently Paul so playing catch up with your videos. Great content and honest reviews. Good to see you trying different grub and seeing how it turns out,best way to do it.
Cheers
Thanks Vince ;)
Good Comparsion!
Thanks!
For a Trangia stove, that seems like a lot of yellow flame, and is burning like a torch. Not sure what you’re using for fuel, but I use denatured alcohol in my Alocs stove (Trangia knock off), and I get a nice blue flame, with little to no “torching”. The other thing is, it made sense that the second pan cooked faster the second time around… That’s the nature of titanium. It gets hot fast, and will only get hotter the longer it is heated. I would’ve used the snuffer control to reduce the flame on the second pan. It’ll slow that heating down a little bit.
I am a firm believer. That nonstick is the way to go, especially when camping out in the woods. It’s just so much easier to clean and it makes for more delight when cooking.
Aluminum pans, titanium pans. If you’re not paying attention food gets burned to them, and that just makes more hassle to clean out in the woods.
The right way to clean any nonstick pan is to do it with hot boiling water right after you’re done cooking, while it’s still on the flame. How do you do that when you’re out in the woods? You can’t. You have to stop and boil water and then add it to the pan AFTER it cools down the first time!
I’ve proven this time and time again at home searing steaks on steel pans. My wife can never get them clean because she takes them off the stove and throws them in the sink. Wrong. When you’re done cooking, you dump the grease wipe it with a paper towel and then very slowly add hot, boiling water. Use a plastic spatula upside down, using the force of the edge, and that searing stuff will come off the bottom of the pan every time without hassle. Same thing for aluminum and titanium.
You did pretty good with the titanium in this illustration. But the first time you take your eyes off of it while you’re cooking something it’s all gonna burn to the pan.
Nonstick. That’s the way to go. We just have to take care of them a little more carefully.
Thanks for the video!
👍
Nice flip
I have had a trangia 27 with a non stick frying pan for about 40 years and it is still my goto cookset. Aluminium inner pans have been upgraded to annodised versions but other than a few miinor scratches and dings the old red frying pan is still in good condition despite frying up bacon and eggs for breakfast everytime I went camping.
Glad to hear that. Hopefully the non stick process used than is the same as now an the newer non stick holds up ad nicely
The Trangia non stick pans have provided a lot of good meals for me in the past.
Since then I have a Evernew Titanium Non Stick frying Pan for my Evernew Appalachian set. The Evernew Non Stick Titanium Frying Pans come in three different sizes. ( 6.5 " , 7.2" , 8.07" ) and are Non Stick. I have cooked Eggs , Pancakes and even a ( quick ) trail side Pizza I came up with without any sticking problems. Keith Titanium also makes Non Stick titanium frying pans.
By the way I also regulate the temperature of the pan like you do , adjusting the height of the pan from the flame.
Boy you’re flipping expert in flipping!
LOL
Great comparison Paul, I love the Trangia gear but have a couple of the GSI outdoors pinnacle frying pans.
Not cheap but excellent quality and a dream to cook in. Might be worth a look at.
Thanks Ralph i will have a look at those pans.
Enjoying the videos, particularly the cooking ones, could you show us what kit you have and why you chose it, I'm currently building a kit of my own but would be nice to see in detail incase I miss something etc. Thank you and keep safe
Flippin Eck!! that non stick trangia pan is flipping brill.. I'm gonna Flippin buy one!!
Great Pan Alan 👍
I'd have to go with the non-stick. For 2 oz. weight difference it's worth it for the ease of use. Nice vid!
Cheers Tony, I like it too 👍
Can't beat a pancake. Thanks for the comparison, it always helps. Meant to say, perfect flip 😁 to start. I prefer the first pan, you had a lot of trouble with the second pan.
I like the Trangia pan too.👍
Paul please take note that you need to season the titanium frying pan with Rapeseed oil a couple of times because it has a higher burning point than normal oil and also then it is more better for frying on the waistline and once you have tried this you will always have a bottle of rapeseed oil in your food cupboard and it's great for seasoning carbon steel frying pans and carbon steel woks believe me it works fantastic 😁👍
I agree it would be a lot better seasoned. It will get there when i use it more. Thanks Mike.
Polish inside the pan. Polish it like the bowl of a titanium spoon. Until you can see your reflection. Then season. It'll still burn, but a lot less stick.
I didn’t realize British and american meanings of the word pancake were different. That looks more like what we call a crepe. Thanks for the vid.
Crepe is French. Did you know that?
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft yes sir! So was that a crepe or just a crazy flat pancakes?
@@geektarded Its an English pancake. Same as a crepe. In Scotland they are scones.
I like trangia i have a 27, with gas and spirit burners. Very good and versatile.
I use regular pans with it to like cast iron works well mostly.
I will make one now seing that make me hungry.
Thanks
Have you tried adding some oil to the batter mixture? It helps reduce sticking. Also, I spray a little oil on the top side before flipping, also helps to reduce sticking.
Yes my mum used to do that when she made pancakes. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
I just got my first Ti pans and the more you cook on them the better you will get. Ive found it best to cook at a lower temp unless your boiling water and that will come out amazing. I got mine used but they are evernew Ti ceramic coated and while you can still burn they clean up easy if it does happen, really just needs a deglaze and its clean. Any pan if it isnt coated will stick, if its uncoated then season them with oil heat to high temp wipe clean then cook under the temp that the oil was seasoned and should act like a non stick fwiw. If your not a great cook or tend to it all the time id get something that has better heat distribution, non burnt food makes for better meals.
That's great advice thanks for commenting.
Basically the trangia non-stick is a better pan for cooking with. Thick base, curved sides, but heavy. Titanium one is hard work for cooking, has a stupid handle but is much lighter. Like you say, depends what you want.
Great review Paul! You made the titanium work better than it would have done for most of us due to your good cooking skills! 😄
Since I’ve been low carb I don’t enjoy sweet stuff so much - we’ve just had savoury pancakes with chicken and cheese 😋
Shame Peter’s not into coming out, but to be honest, this crappy weather we’ve been having is enough to piss anyone off. Tell him we’re all missing him.
ATB, Mark 👍
Peter got his pancakes and was happy to eat them at home. I prefer the Trangia for cooking. Peter has a titanium cup and bought it for it's weight not for cooking. People are saying titanium is good for water boiling.
Paul I’d love to see you test out the nomad grill an smoker.
I have a gig green egg an love it .. this is portable
Non stick for me Marra, and enjoyed the comparisons
Thanks Russ
Nice shake action there mate, you've done that before 🤣😂 I like pancakes but can't stand the smell so they get banned in my house when I'm about. Great pan test. Flipipin heck!
I did that for 2 mins straight the way you taught me that night in the woods! This quick mix pancakes stuff doesn't smell at all. Thanks Lee :)
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft LOL... oh the woods yeah I remember 🤣😂🤣 how could I forget? 😂🤣
Good fry pans Paul hope enjoy pancake did Peter like his pancakes hope he ok good shelter u in made out old plate wood thackyou paul
Peter liked his pancakes Thanks Patrick
Now I want pancakes.
Yay
❤❤👍👍
Great demo and summary Paul. I've never used Titanium, it seems to be all about weight savings why people go for those so if weight isn't too much of an issue I think non-stick is better. I believe modern non-stick isn't as potentially bad as some people say as the older non stick but I have no data to back that up.
Yes i agree about the non stick coating. The Trangia non stick is a million miles away from flaky Teflon coatings of the old days. Thanks Paul
Less water, and a great flippen job. My friend
Thanks Tom
Could be nice to see a stainless steel frypan too, seems like the titanium is a bad choice.
Titanium gets extremely hot. Stainless would be better.
Not bad pancakes Nigella ,considering you are useing a Trangia Burner in a wood not bad at all,better than I could make.
Cheers Doug. It was my first time too ;)
Can you use these pans with the 25 or 27 trangia stoves? Looked very delicious!!! Thanks for the videos
No, won’t fit
The pancakes look like home made tortillas. :)
try duossal pans. replaced all my teflon ones with them.
How do you like them? As far as food sticking an clean up?
(Sorry put this on the wrong thread)
Hi Paul, good vid, not a fan of titanium cookware, hopefully it works for some folk.
A question if I may, How do you clean your pans on an overnighter? no one seems to cover this, a lot of channels do lots of excellent cooking but no one covers the admin after to pack and move, Just a thought, I think viewers may be interested.
Keep up the brilliant vids, thanks lots
God I been thinking I was the only one wishing some would do videos on exactly that for years now. I’ve mentioned it a few times here an there. Anyone can cook something anywhere. But the cleaning is what I’m also curious of. Or the cleaning tricks out on the trail
For non stick pans or pans with not much burnt on food grass works quite well as a scourer. Medium levels I use a nylon cleaning pad, like the sponges with one green nylon face. Thats safe on non stick. The ultimate for metal pans is the thick stainless steel wire wool type scourers, you can usually get them at bigger supermarkets, but they damage non stick coatings only usable on metal.
I think trangia is better , i do have titanium but they burn to hot.Thanks for the video paul..
Yeah i think so
Nice vid Paul have just brought the folding pan and i love it 👍 can i also ask where do you get those trousers from do you have a link as I’ve been looking for some like that
Thanks, they are OG Trousers look on ebay. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MILITARY-OG-COMBAT-CARGO-PANTS-Gents-32-w-plain-black-British-Army-Nato-trousers/290308068889?epid=1654760226&hash=item4397b59619:g:oGYAAOSw35ZdMt-G
Paul, how about a review on the solid fuel/gel burner for Trangia? Fits all models, quite cheap and works with esbit, alco gel, strong hand sanitizer etc. Maybe Peter has a few spare esbits you could borrow.
Yeah i could have a look at doing that and compare it to a spirit burner.
Also paul please clarify as im new to triangias , as to whether the flames as in this video are meant to be yellow out the central chamber. I thought if these stoves working correctly the flames should only be coming out pin holes blue only .
Is the burner not working right if both blue an yellow flames or is this how it should work .??
Hi Ian, the flames will be blue if the burner is clean and upto temperature. If its cold out it will take longer to get the temperature up. They soot up if not cleaned regularly. I put a little water in my fuel to stop it sooting up, this doesnt help with getting it hot either.
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft Thanks for that . With one second hand ones brought found that 50/ 50 White vinegar an hot water left for hour cleared the soot then I rinsed it clean water. Being plumber all shower company's only recommend above on brass mixer parts works well. In manual for 27 system burner says lasts around 25 mins. As the swedish one bigger have you done any tests on Time diff between the 2 ??
Think the swedish one holds 125 ml
An the 27 system one about 75 ml ??
👍👍 trangia
i bought a 4 $ pan and removed the handle and i use a cohglan pan handler. it cost me 10$ and does the same as a 40$ non stick pan , and if it get bad,,i just buy another one.
I'd rather a heavier pot I can cook meals in than a lighter pot I can burn meals in.. titanium is good for boiling water to use on dehydrated meals, thats it as far as I'm concerned.. I always attempt to lighten my loadout, but I ain't compromising my cookset just to save a few gramms on my set up..
my advice, save wieght on your tent tarp burner sleepsystem. when it comes to pans wieght comes second after utility..
Great comment Vespasian ;)
My personal choice is a heavier frypan which evens out the heat. I think non stick is always the winner if you can be bothered to really take care of the surfaces. Lets face it, most house fry pans are non stick for a good reason. Thanks for doing this test.
Very True Mike
The reason is laziness! 😉
The non-stick ones are replaced every couple of years. Cast iron can be as good but last for generations. Just too heavy for hikers.
Appears the trangia nonstick is the clear winner and half the price.
hi paul could you help me out with answer too are the Swedish army meth burners meant to be on the inner wall of fuel chamber jointed with a vertical line top to bottom or is this a crack / split ?
IV had 2 come now off ebay one with 3 splits on inner wall , another one with just a single dead straight line split from top to bottom .
I have had a 27 triangia brand new kit delivered an that although smaller has no lines on internal fuel wall .
PLease could you clarify above with what you no .
Many thanks ian
You should have been a chef Paul. I pray that Peter gets well - we miss him. It looks like you changed your meths as the Trangia is burning much hotter than before. Take care and God bless, Ken. Nice location too.
Thanks Ken, the meths doesn't have any water in it now i was having trouble lighting it so i went neat. It burns dirty but it burns ;) Peter is Ok he will return when he wants too.
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft Good news about Peter. He's part of the deal you know. They must put other additives in your meths as our denatured alcohol is clean burning.
Always cure any pan before use.
You're a "flippin good" flipper Paul. I wonder if the titanium pan would season a little. When a new pan is seasoned say with canola or bacon grease they work better.
Yes when i have seasoned it i will give it another go.
Ti is about only good for boiling or heating up something in a pot. It heat conduction properties do not lend it well to cooking.
I don't like toxic coated non stick cookwear so I prefer either all bare stainless or good old carbon steel. The Ti stuff is best suited for canteens and small cups, kettles, or little pots.
Thanks for your thoughts Aaron ;)
Trangia all the way. Thanks Paul. Regards to the big man. IAN
Thanks Ian. Trangia 👍👍
Hey Paul 😊 can you me witch brand of blackened Cajun you use please,it looks like it’s not easy to get in Australia 🇦🇺 lol 🧐
Thank you heaps 👌👍✅
I use this one. amzn.to/32xLlCe I don't know if you can get it in Australia though. You might have to look for a recipe and make your own if you can't find anything. If you do make one let me know how it is.
Paul Bisseker Bushcraft thank you 😊 I can get that one from eBay just a lot for shipping lol 😂 I might make one 😊 I will let you know how I go 🧐 😋😋😋👍😊
Hi paul I'm glad the flippin trangia won in my eyes as I bought one after watching your review 👍 you could sell the 27mtr titanium one to peter 😂👌 ( check at around 1.30 sec )
I preferred the trangia to cook with too.
👍😊✅❤️🥳
Non stick the way to go 😜
Also find the handle on my trangia pan is looser than yours looks but cooks well
I think mine will loosen over time. I may be able to press the rolled piece to tighten it though if it does. Thanks Derek
Peanut oil is the best oil
Pretty much what I expected, given other YT reviews of titanium. I’ll give the ti a pass... not backpacking anyway. A little weight difference isn’t important. Enjoyed watching. I have a Trangia 25 Duossal set which satisfies my fears of both aluminum and nonstick coatings. The cooking surface is stainless steel. The outer layer is good heat conducting aluminum.
I will get a Duossal one day or buy the pans one at a time. I tried the titanium pan again after seasoning it at home. I think it would take some long term use to get it up to scratch! I like to keep things simple with my cooking.
I think Ti manufactures should stick to making hip joints and plane engines, that said my little Ti pot is great for warming soup quickly provided you stir it at spin dryer speeds to stop it burning.
Yeah it seems the heat transfer is great for water boiling but not so good for thicker liquids.
the heat transfer of commercially pure Ti is over 10 times lower than aluminium. depending on the alloy of the pan, which contains also aluminium, it's still significant lower.
@@alx252 This would only be of an affect if the pans were the same size and density. TI pots being stronger are also thinner in construction.
I dont like cooking on TI it heats up to fast and to hot and I can not truly regulate the fire under it
I will try after seasoning the pan and see where we are. I think you are right though 👍
That's why I don't like and never use alcohol stoves - the flame is too uncontrollable.
A gas canister stove is vastly superior in that respect and the total weight and size of the package is about the same as an alcohol burner plus alcohol bottle.
they make titanium pans with ceramic coating they work well
I will look out for some ;)
as the ti is heating up too uneven and with that the thermal elongation of the material, the ceramic coat will very soon crack and the non stick property's will vanish. I have one coated pan, was great at the beginning but now is all sticking like hell. I'm back to the good old carbon steel cheap pans than can be seasoned. heavy, but long term they give you more fun. all the non stick stuff come off sooner than expected.
@@alx252 the coating in question is fused into the metal (at lest the one I got) and don't crack
Problem with titanium pans is they a lightweight and fin so they get hotter faster hence the oil burns never try melted butter
Yeah needs a high heat threshold oil. Butter burns very quick ;)
flipping live, under pressure, mine would be stuck to the roof
Any pan can become non-stick, just get the pan very hot then put oil in the pan and coat it evenly and instantly the pan will become nonstick, Chinese chef use this technic for thousands of years
Even titanium what oil to use Penut ?
What is the difference in weight? Did I miss it?
9.5 oz. vs 7.2 oz. I wondered as well.
@@Kingreddoberman Cheers, yea not much in it at all.
Tony C. Thanks Tony 👍
Paul a little tip mate, always check the lid ;) haha
Come on peter we need comedy lol
Id rather carry that extra bit of weight for a non stick pan mate, iv never rated titanium apart from its weight its good for nothing
Pesky lid! It seems from all the responses that titanium is good for boiling water and cutlery, cups ect. not cooking.
Are you doing Tom Hardys voice here Paul or is Tom Hardy doing a voice over for you ?
LOL
Titanium uses less fuel
Nice pancakes more ike the French crepe not the thick things the Yanks seem to call a pancake.
Titanium is great for many things but I gave up with it for frying and I did persist for a while, tried various things (Pam non stick spray helps but I really didn't want to use that form of oil).
Analogue Cat 3345 I’m Mexican and that looks more like a tortilla to me. 😂😂
@@carmenmartinez2882 Isn't that made with corn though?
Yeah they are like crepes. Peter has a titanium cup he likes it.
Analogue Cat 3345 there are 2 types corn or flour, I was joking, I actually like them thin too.
titaniums thermal property is mental can boil water in under 3 seconds using a cup, that plus being lightweight means you'll use less fuel etc, so its just not a weight saving exercise
I think i might have to try the water boil test ;)
looks like a crepe. ours are thicker
We in USA don’t put anything buy syrup I prefer katchup
U must got the carona lol 😂 ketchup?
Titanium cooks much faster same heat
Titanium doesn't disperse heat evenly, making it more prone to scorching. Never cook over an open flame with Titanium.
That is a crêpe not a pancake.
Unless you're from the UK, in which case it's a pancake, the traditional form made on pancake day (the reason for making the pancakes)