The whole question “what evidence proves atheism” is ridiculous. What he’s basically asking is “what evidence proves you don’t believe in a god”, because that’s all that atheism means.
16:20 While Washington went to a local church regularly, it was just part of the social constructs of the time, but he always left before communion and Martha would catch up with him at home.
Ytxmak Cause he is evil XD No matter what argument an apologetic provides, you can use the EXACT same argument to prove that the same god is evil rather than good. You don't even have to change a word. Try it, its hillarious
ghostofdayinperson There is no doubt that the bible god did more killing and torture than lucifer. You make a reasonable statement concerning a man created religious god. While I do not believe in the christian religion nor its Jesus....let's look at another possible god. What if there is a God and this existence contains dualism...in order to understand and define existence. A candle in the sun cannot understand its own light until it is surrounded by its opposite....darkness. We must have evil to understand good....hot to understand cold.....up to define down. What if God exist but knows we are safe (our spirit) and ALLOWS us to CREATE a heaven or hell on this 3-D plane of existence. What if everything is as God intends ...evil ....good...death....life...pain...joy....for the only thing that is not temporary is love and spirit...everything else is an illusion....a very real dream where we are still safe but allow to "play". . I think Shakespeare was correct ...life is a stage and we are the players. We chart those events we choose to experience. God may be experiencing all these aspects through us. Could God give us this illusion of separation in order to make the "game of life" real. For those curious about a reasonable...evolved...extremely sensible....logical god....you should check out the book from your library "Conversations With God". Don't allow christianity/religions to lock god into only two options....a childish maniacal idiot angry god....or no god at all. Nothing about this life.... including God is not so black or white. I believe many ppl claim to be atheist because they can only see god the religious way or not at all. PEACE AND TRUTH
As a free-thinking atheist I don't believe this is a Christian-country. However, I must say, in reading American history, the Christians have treated it that way. I will give you two examples. In the 1800s the Native American reservations were divided up among the various Christian sects in order to convert the many different tribes. And in reading transcripts of meetings between government officials and the native chiefs, they frequently opened with Christian prayers. Sure it was wrong but they did it and it was all under the eye of the government, heck, it was the government.
They carried a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other so yeah being part indigenous makes me not trust any kind of missionaries or government officials.
A "joke": Native says "when you arrived, we had the land and you had the bibles. You said 'let us pray'. And when we opened our eyes, you had the land and we had the bibles".
Believer: Your Relationship with god is simply a profound and dynamic relationship with the self, with your ego. This is why god can seem so very real to you. In a sense he is real. He is you. This is why god's opinions are so very often your opinions. This is why two believers of the same religion can both claim to agree with god's opinion but not with each others. When you pray and god gives you answers you are the source of those intuitions. You are simply having a conversation with yourself and don't even realize it. This is why god can always assuage any doubts of the believer. You see, "God" knows exactly how you think because he is you. He knows your tastes, your biases and all the gaps in your logic. Therefore it follows that "he" knows what arguments you will find compelling and what mental gymnastics you are capable of to ignore any arguments to the contrary. Ironically I probably can't convince you of anything I stated above because of the very fact that it is in fact true. You are "god". The next time you hear someone preaching or waxing poetic about god, Jesus, Mohamed or Joseph Smith, change all the names and pronouns you hear them say, in your mind, so that they refer to the person speaking and trust me you will get a whole new perspective on life. This is why believers have such a strong emotional reaction whenever they encounter a non-believer. They simply misperceive the non-believers rational skepticism about the supernatural and occult as an assault on their "god" which is to say their own personal identity. There are a vast multitude of religions and superstitious beliefs in the world that espouse many mutually contradicting doctrines. Therefore they cannot all be true. but they can certainly all be false. Even if one were actually proven to be true it would still follow that human beings have a rather remarkable propensity for making up entire religions from whole cloth. I think that all religions and other supernatural beliefs are cultural phenomena of purely human making. Much of this impulse in human culture is driven by peoples existential angst, their innate and instinctive fear of death. Their own death and the death of the people they love. It can seem easier to deal with death by convincing ourselves that it is not real. "My loved one is not dead they are in the afterlife", we tell ourselves. And "Of course I will never die! that's absurd!". You all need to grow up. Embrace the suck! And make the most of the time you actually do have. You are mortal. Death is real...... Get over it. I sincerely and earnestly do not believe that gods exist. But you have each other. Perhaps that alone could bring meaning to your lives. However if you insist on believing in supernatural claims at a minimum please do us all a big favor and don't give your hard earned money to religion pimps and hucksters.
48:00 Not only do some people want to feel that they are being taken care of by "god" government, but that if there is no "god" watching our every move can we at least have government watch our every move!....... It's so sick.
What is the difference between religion and brain death? One walks and talks and spreads the disease and the other doesn't. Or is that a positive argument for a resurrection?.. Damn, always a way to spin reality.
Congratulations, people of Earth. Number of consecutive Second Coming-free weeks: 103,436 ...and counting...and counting... But to current generation: Yes, it absolutely WILL happen within YOUR lifetime. Not like all those other schmucks who expected it in theirs. Boy, were THEY ever silly, eh? You are SO gonna be able to tease them about that up in Heaven. In between the mandatory Hymns of Praise 23 hours a day.
+Bruce Baker That is _SO_ funny - Thanks. I've already seen a few for this year, but they seem a bit half-hearted. The clever (!) money is on 2017, I can't remember why. I think it was Harold Camping ('Harold'!) who first caught my eye. I think he died about a year later than he finally settled on for his rupture. Seriously, I think he was dementing, as in senile, but some had already sold their homes, or left everything to the church; - some even committed suicide to get in early, ahead of the crush. You couldn't make it up!
Adam Mangler Hi Adam. Yes, The Camping debacle burned an awful lot of money. I'm up in Canada. They had billboards (i have pix of me in front of one)...even up here! And billboards aint cheap.
First time I heard of a conservative atheist, thank god, I thought I was the only one! As much as I enjoy the show I frequently get irritated at all the liberal views that bleed out.
There are similar arguments concerning Israel, which does not have the separation. People say "can't the Jews just have one country? The are so many Christian (or Muslim, etc.) countries" To which I reply, "I'm not sure what countries you are counting as 'Christian', but if they are Christian in the way Israel is Jewish, then I'm against that, too" To be clear, I agree Jews need a country where they can be safe and practice their faith freely. I think the US and the UK are two such countries (which makes me proud to be from here. The UK even had a Jewish PM, which still could not happen in the US). Israel should be another such country. But that's different from being a "Jewish state", which you can't be while still being a true democracy, imo.
Holy cow, eksyte, where did you pull that from? I scanned thru to find Kevin. Closed my eyes to concentrate. First reaction: No way, not even close! Well hold on, try to keep an open mind...mmm...welll.... No, dude. Seth is a radio pro. No uh's and the-the-the... like Kevin's. Speaking style, rhythm: totally different. Seth has way more bass, while Kevin's voice is lighter and reedier.
This is the version of Matt I miss. I wish he still felt the same way about political affiliations. He has now turned into a divisive tyrant that thinks if you don't vote his way you are the scum of the earth
In regard to the last call. maybe the standard to become an RN in indiana is a joke ? I know they're only 2 states where earning a degree to become an RN transfers to anywhere in the U.S...... NY and California. the taxes are high but so are the standards.
At 40:15 Don is rather prophetic about Republicans needing to change as it seems like there are MAGA republicans who are to far right for most Republicans.
ExorArgus Heh, nice. I was going for the more Reality vs Imaginary aspect, but that response is good. The debate aspect would be subjective since some gamers may in fact debate for a living outside their games (which is possible). But in the real vs non real, Gamers would be more accepting of reality (even though both groups seem to agree that reality tends to suck).
Theists. They are used to inhabiting a fantasy world full of beings with superhuman powers, and monsters. Also they believe that if they get killed they get another life.
***** While that is true, Gamers know that in RL they have only one life, so they will do a lot more planning before committing to an act. The Theists will be rampant and predictable, and likely easily tricked.
13:30 the guy is just making assertions, they say this and it just isn't so. He is refuting assertions with assertions, if the shit was important enough to talk about and you had time to prep... 1 facepalm from me, but i'm probably in the minority here. A discussion of the first amendment and religion would have been interesting, but this is just a sermon. One way magic trap door wall like thing, fucking brilliant. "Yeah" ...................... knew what a trap door was...!!!
Presups are not attacking reason. They are claiming only a god can account for reason being reasonable and logic being logical. They are also saying if there is no god - you have no justification for any confidence in your beliefs.
It's funny hearing Matt talking about how silly and sickening accommodationists are and how confrontation is a necessity. One has to wonder if that is how he feels why on Earth he aligned and associated himself with the P Z Meyers/Atheism+ crowd who completely want to shut down any confrontation or discussion.
Logiki you clearly don't even understand the concept go look it up. Every Western country is a mixed economy socialism and capitalism. You are just bleating right wing propaganda that has nothing to do with fact. The military is socialist! Denmark, Norway and France have large socialist programs and are doing great. Try understanding what you are talking about before repeating cold war propaganda against communism( as in not socialism) and besides the USSR was Totalitarianism not communism. type "democratic socialism examples" into your google machine then come back once you have a basic understanding of the concept. No wonder the USA is an oligarchy with brainwashed folk like you.
What makes you think "Jewish" refers only to a faith? You can be Jewish by culture and heredity, as well. You CANNOT be christian by birth or culture, it's not a sub-group...only a body of beliefs. I USED to believe, and now I do not -- would that mean my heritage is no longer mine? Dipshit.
...and how would one know if one is jewish or not? In order to get an israeli passport one has to show at least 25% of jew blood in the bloodstream, just as Borys Berezovsky did in Summer of 1993. He lied, because he had less than 25% since the blood transfusion he had in Mongolia two decades earlier. What is really cruel about this is that when he was required to revoke his Israeli citizenship due to Russian law forbidding multiple citizenship of government officials, he discovered that it is impossible to unbecome a jew once Israel makes you one. Only suicide set him free.
The whole question “what evidence proves atheism” is ridiculous.
What he’s basically asking is “what evidence proves you don’t believe in a god”, because that’s all that atheism means.
John's argument basically amounts to "Why is it bright during the day?"
Answer.. because of the sun.
"Yeah, but why is it bright during the day?"
Snap!
Why are lions, lions ?
YESSSS!!!!! We can't "all just get along" BECAUSE. SOME. PEOPLE. ARE. WRONG. :) Thank you, Matt.
16:20 While Washington went to a local church regularly, it was just part of the social constructs of the time, but he always left before communion and Martha would catch up with him at home.
I love Dons laugh
I do as well, I wish Matt realized he’s not as big a deal as he thinks he is
@@ryanspangler4569 weirdo.
If God is responsible for everything, then he is responsible for evil. Therefore, God is evil.
That's called the problem of evil. And you will likely get a good chuckle at all the ways religious folk try to get around it.
Oh, I have seen it. I did not chuckle though. It's too sad.
ya can't argue with that I guess. If god is so powerful and he loves everyone so much why the fuck doesn't he just get rid of the devil and 'evil'?
Ytxmak Cause he is evil XD
No matter what argument an apologetic provides, you can use the EXACT same argument to prove that the same god is evil rather than good. You don't even have to change a word. Try it, its hillarious
ghostofdayinperson There is no doubt that the bible god did more killing and torture than lucifer. You make a reasonable statement concerning a man created religious god.
While I do not believe in the christian religion nor its Jesus....let's look at another possible god.
What if there is a God and this existence contains dualism...in order to understand and define existence. A candle in the sun cannot understand its own light until it is surrounded by its opposite....darkness. We must have evil to understand good....hot to understand cold.....up to define down.
What if God exist but knows we are safe (our spirit) and ALLOWS us to CREATE a heaven or hell on this 3-D plane of existence. What if everything is as God intends ...evil ....good...death....life...pain...joy....for the only thing that is not temporary is love and spirit...everything else is an illusion....a very real dream where we are still safe but allow to "play". . I think Shakespeare was correct ...life is a stage and we are the players. We chart those events we choose to experience. God may be experiencing all these aspects through us. Could God give us this illusion of separation in order to make the "game of life" real.
For those curious about a reasonable...evolved...extremely sensible....logical god....you should check out the book from your library "Conversations With God". Don't allow christianity/religions to lock god into only two options....a childish maniacal idiot angry god....or no god at all. Nothing about this life.... including God is not so black or white.
I believe many ppl claim to be atheist because they can only see god the religious way or not at all.
PEACE AND TRUTH
I'd never seen this episode before. I like this one a lot. Matt rarely talks politics.
Anyone with a religious leaning should not be allowed to hold any type of public office, because it could bias their decisions..
Phelan
Yes I agree, George Bush said god spoke to him and told him to invade Iraq
As a free-thinking atheist I don't believe this is a Christian-country. However, I must say, in reading American history, the Christians have treated it that way. I will give you two examples. In the 1800s the Native American reservations were divided up among the various Christian sects in order to convert the many different tribes. And in reading transcripts of meetings between government officials and the native chiefs, they frequently opened with Christian prayers. Sure it was wrong but they did it and it was all under the eye of the government, heck, it was the government.
They carried a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other so yeah being part indigenous makes me not trust any kind of missionaries or government officials.
A "joke": Native says "when you arrived, we had the land and you had the bibles. You said 'let us pray'. And when we opened our eyes, you had the land and we had the bibles".
Matt: Did Lady Gaga write the song about you? Alejandro: Yes. I think she's god. (Would have been good.)
Believer: Your Relationship with god is simply a profound and dynamic relationship with the self, with your ego. This is why god can seem so very real to you. In a sense he is real. He is you. This is why god's opinions are so very often your opinions. This is why two believers of the same religion can both claim to agree with god's opinion but not with each others. When you pray and god gives you answers you are the source of those intuitions. You are simply having a conversation with yourself and don't even realize it. This is why god can always assuage any doubts of the believer. You see, "God" knows exactly how you think because he is you. He knows your tastes, your biases and all the gaps in your logic. Therefore it follows that "he" knows what arguments you will find compelling and what mental gymnastics you are capable of to ignore any arguments to the contrary. Ironically I probably can't convince you of anything I stated above because of the very fact that it is in fact true. You are "god".
The next time you hear someone preaching or waxing poetic about god, Jesus, Mohamed or Joseph Smith, change all the names and pronouns you hear them say, in your mind, so that they refer to the person speaking and trust me you will get a whole new perspective on life.
This is why believers have such a strong emotional reaction whenever they encounter a non-believer. They simply misperceive the non-believers rational skepticism about the supernatural and occult as an assault on their "god" which is to say their own personal identity.
There are a vast multitude of religions and superstitious beliefs in the world that espouse many mutually contradicting doctrines. Therefore they cannot all be true. but they can certainly all be false. Even if one were actually proven to be true it would still follow that human beings have a rather remarkable propensity for making up entire religions from whole cloth. I think that all religions and other supernatural beliefs are cultural phenomena of purely human making. Much of this impulse in human culture is driven by peoples existential angst, their innate and instinctive fear of death. Their own death and the death of the people they love. It can seem easier to deal with death by convincing ourselves that it is not real. "My loved one is not dead they are in the afterlife", we tell ourselves. And "Of course I will never die! that's absurd!". You all need to grow up. Embrace the suck! And make the most of the time you actually do have.
You are mortal. Death is real...... Get over it.
I sincerely and earnestly do not believe that gods exist. But you have each other. Perhaps that alone could bring meaning to your lives.
However if you insist on believing in supernatural claims at a minimum please do us all a big favor and don't give your hard earned money to religion pimps and hucksters.
Great post. FMRI scans PROVE this beyond doubt. God = Ego
48:00 Not only do some people want to feel that they are being taken care of by "god" government, but that if there is no "god" watching our every move can we at least have government watch our every move!....... It's so sick.
Nobody cares!
***** You had to care, to some degree, to type that reply. Just like I care about the lack of logic in your action.
HERP HERP IMMA JEENYUS
Go away, troll.
I love these guys, aronra should be a guest more often
What is the difference between religion and brain death? One walks and talks and spreads the disease and the other doesn't. Or is that a positive argument for a resurrection?.. Damn, always a way to spin reality.
Religion is to a well functioning society what cancer is to good health.
Congratulations, people of Earth.
Number of consecutive Second Coming-free weeks: 103,436
...and counting...and counting...
But to current generation: Yes, it absolutely WILL happen within YOUR lifetime. Not like all those other schmucks who expected it in theirs. Boy, were THEY ever silly, eh? You are SO gonna be able to tease them about that up in Heaven. In between the mandatory Hymns of Praise 23 hours a day.
+Bruce Baker
That is _SO_ funny - Thanks.
I've already seen a few for this year, but they seem a bit half-hearted. The clever (!) money is on 2017, I can't remember why. I think it was Harold Camping ('Harold'!) who first caught my eye. I think he died about a year later than he finally settled on for his rupture. Seriously, I think he was dementing, as in senile, but some had already sold their homes, or left everything to the church; - some even committed suicide to get in early, ahead of the crush. You couldn't make it up!
Adam Mangler Hi Adam. Yes, The Camping debacle burned an awful lot of money. I'm up in Canada. They had billboards (i have pix of me in front of one)...even up here! And billboards aint cheap.
It's nothing to worry about.
Don't donate to the Church.
Don: I'll make this short... (20 mins later)
Remind me to never visit a hospital in Kokomo, In.
"Won't you listen to reeeeeeasoooooon," *cough
2 years later and for some reason seeing this just made me laugh lol
@@AnimsOnDemand what do 2 years passing have to do with it marking you laugh?
First time I heard of a conservative atheist, thank god, I thought I was the only one! As much as I enjoy the show I frequently get irritated at all the liberal views that bleed out.
Gross.
"this is a time when real conservatives can take back their party" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 HAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 if only they knew what was coming lmao
There are similar arguments concerning Israel, which does not have the separation. People say "can't the Jews just have one country? The are so many Christian (or Muslim, etc.) countries"
To which I reply, "I'm not sure what countries you are counting as 'Christian', but if they are Christian in the way Israel is Jewish, then I'm against that, too"
To be clear, I agree Jews need a country where they can be safe and practice their faith freely. I think the US and the UK are two such countries (which makes me proud to be from here. The UK even had a Jewish PM, which still could not happen in the US). Israel should be another such country. But that's different from being a "Jewish state", which you can't be while still being a true democracy, imo.
I am an atheist for the same reason I am an afairyist, an aleprechaunist, an abigfootist, and a loch Ness monsterist
NO THEOCRACY!!!
What happened to #681 :-(
I am so on side with Matt's issue with the big grey morass of peaceful coexistence. Its offensive smarm.
Refrain from saying "You know...".
"Kevin" is really Seth Andrews. That voice is unmistakable.
Holy cow, eksyte, where did you pull that from? I scanned thru to find Kevin. Closed my eyes to concentrate. First reaction: No way, not even close! Well hold on, try to keep an open mind...mmm...welll....
No, dude. Seth is a radio pro. No uh's and the-the-the... like Kevin's. Speaking style, rhythm: totally different. Seth has way more bass, while Kevin's voice is lighter and reedier.
Bruce Baker Totally agree, the cadence and pitch is totally wrong.
Matt Dillahunty is the new God!
This is the version of Matt I miss. I wish he still felt the same way about political affiliations. He has now turned into a divisive tyrant that thinks if you don't vote his way you are the scum of the earth
jesus jesus jesus, anit nobody got time for that!
In regard to the last call. maybe the standard to become an RN in indiana is a joke ? I know they're only 2 states where earning a degree to become an RN transfers to anywhere in the U.S...... NY and California. the taxes are high but so are the standards.
conservative republican = dominion theology
liberal democrat = collective salvation
Logiki In a way yes ...so well done for pointing that out!
At 40:15 Don is rather prophetic about Republicans needing to change as it seems like there are MAGA republicans who are to far right for most Republicans.
Lets not forget that the jews who suffered under hitler were not only abandoned by God but also sent to Hell for eterniry
Patriotism promotes racism and "pride goeth before a fall".
THAT MATT, IS TOTAL BULL SHIT! AND IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT YOU ARE NEITHER LOGICAL OR VERY BRIGHT!
HERE LET ME SPEAK IN CAPITALS SO YOU CAN HEAR ME YELLING....
Also, who gives a shit its just a country all civilizations rise and they all fall. This little country will fall like all the rest in due time.
John you dont need proof of atheism! any more than proof of asmurfism lol
Hypothetic scenario: Gamers vs Theists, who'd win? GO! ((lols))
Most irrational: theists
Most relevant to future: Gamers
In a fight: Gamers
In a debate: tie (neither are equipped to deal with it)
ExorArgus
Heh, nice. I was going for the more Reality vs Imaginary aspect, but that response is good. The debate aspect would be subjective since some gamers may in fact debate for a living outside their games (which is possible). But in the real vs non real, Gamers would be more accepting of reality (even though both groups seem to agree that reality tends to suck).
Theists. They are used to inhabiting a fantasy world full of beings with superhuman powers, and monsters. Also they believe that if they get killed they get another life.
*****
While that is true, Gamers know that in RL they have only one life, so they will do a lot more planning before committing to an act. The Theists will be rampant and predictable, and likely easily tricked.
13:30 the guy is just making assertions, they say this and it just isn't so. He is refuting assertions with assertions, if the shit was important enough to talk about and you had time to prep... 1 facepalm from me, but i'm probably in the minority here. A discussion of the first amendment and religion would have been interesting, but this is just a sermon. One way magic trap door wall like thing, fucking brilliant. "Yeah" ...................... knew what a trap door was...!!!
Don could be the new Chris Hitchens...he has vocabulary and intellect
Stop using "You know". Just stop.
Presups are not attacking reason. They are claiming only a god can account for reason being reasonable and logic being logical. They are also saying if there is no god - you have no justification for any confidence in your beliefs.
Since they are making claims they can’t prove, they fail.
Wtf Lars why do you want to commit murder against libertarians?
One of Matt's favorite sayings is ... "By and Large". Which leads me to believe that he most likely is.
Derrrp. Ad hominem attacks pop up when people have no real argument to make.
+Goliatron
Isn't it sad?
And, so what if he is? What does it matter?
It's funny hearing Matt talking about how silly and sickening accommodationists are and how confrontation is a necessity.
One has to wonder if that is how he feels why on Earth he aligned and associated himself with the P Z Meyers/Atheism+ crowd who completely want to shut down any confrontation or discussion.
Vote for Bernie Sanders 2016 an atheist!
12from121 No no no no...he's a democratic socialist. I already despise the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.
Logiki I love Bernie and I love democratic socalism
Capitalism is progress. Socialism is going back to the death and starvation under Mao, Stalin, and countless other dictators.
Logiki you clearly don't even understand the concept go look it up. Every Western country is a mixed economy socialism and capitalism. You are just bleating right wing propaganda that has nothing to do with fact. The military is socialist! Denmark, Norway and France have large socialist programs and are doing great. Try understanding what you are talking about before repeating cold war propaganda against communism( as in not socialism) and besides the USSR was Totalitarianism not communism. type "democratic socialism examples" into your google machine then come back once you have a basic understanding of the concept. No wonder the USA is an oligarchy with brainwashed folk like you.
+12from121 Bernie Sanders 2016 for Knesset
"Christian Nation" is a buzzword, but Jewish Nation is nationhood
What makes you think "Jewish" refers only to a faith? You can be Jewish by culture and heredity, as well. You CANNOT be christian by birth or culture, it's not a sub-group...only a body of beliefs.
I USED to believe, and now I do not -- would that mean my heritage is no longer mine?
Dipshit.
...and how would one know if one is jewish or not? In order to get an israeli passport one has to show at least 25% of jew blood in the bloodstream, just as Borys Berezovsky did in Summer of 1993. He lied, because he had less than 25% since the blood transfusion he had in Mongolia two decades earlier. What is really cruel about this is that when he was required to revoke his Israeli citizenship due to Russian law forbidding multiple citizenship of government officials, he discovered that it is impossible to unbecome a jew once Israel makes you one. Only suicide set him free.
Refrain from saying "You know...".
Refrain from saying "You know...".