A Colorist's Perspective on M4 iPad Pro
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
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Let's discuss what this 2024 iPad Pro means for the content creation industry.
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00:00 Intro
00:22 FCM
00:49 What makes 2024 iPad special?
05:53 What it means for future consumer tech?
08:46 What it means for the content creation industry?
11:50 Which specs should you get?
14:42 Outro conclusion
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With the Blackmagic Remote monitor app, you can achieve an even cleaner feed by bypassing Apple's color management. This is done by sending a clean signal directly from Blackmagic to the iPad using your own IP address, enabling 10-bit 4:2:0 color. This makes the iPad OLED even more amazing to use while grading.
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is it checked that it is clean clean?
12:31 A point to consider: because of the difference aspect ratios between the two models, the image on the 13” isn’t that much bigger than the 11” when playing back video full screen.
If buyers are getting the bigger model for that specific reason, it’s bigger but not that much bigger for full screen video playback.
Either way, anyone getting one, enjoy the heck out of it and go make some art!
Interesting point. Thanks for sharing dude.
Yes you are right I measured its only 5cm larger width on 13 inch ipad pro
good to know because I'm considering the 11 inch for other tasks.
Very helpful and clear. Thanks.
Usefull. I got the point. Thanks buddy.
Reference mode has been in iPad Pro since they added the XDR display on the M1. I found it a little off, but you can adjust the white point. I also am just realizing now as I type this that reference monitors are a video only thing and shouldn’t be used for photo editing. Probably why I felt it was always a little dark, when I’m used to 120 cd/m.
Now I understand why Blackmagic released the new $500 mini panel with a slot for iPad.
Thats micro paenl.
Behind the curtain is a ALR projector screen?
How the MacBook’s pro screens are for grading?
DUDE! I was hoping you'd do a vid on this. Once I saw it drop, I was tempted to buy one. I needed a colorist's perspective on it because the specs looked INSANE. As always, my guy, doing great stuff over here.
Ty brother. Excited for you.
@@theqazman you coud have a Surface, calibrated with different profil for video or photo for ages. And now in OLED.
@@jeanbaptistelabelleLet him get what he wants to get, don’t tell him what he should get just because you have the same thing. I hate it when people do that. It is his money not yours.
Awesome & Thanks :)
You're welcome
Hey Qazi! Would it be possible to hook it up using a cable? I’m not so sure about airplay or davinci monitor app (it has tons of compression artifacts sometimes) What do you think about this?
However, if you can’t use an ultra studio or an I/O device with the iPad - how can you trust the video signal the display is receiving and ensure no color interference from the OS.
I imagine even with “Reference mode on” you won’t bypass the iPad OS color system?
Hi! ...i would like to know which macbook model this new Ipad m4 can match in speed and endurance in video editing. Im sure its not that as strong as the macbook m4 version but I just wanted to know it it can outscore macbook m2 or m3 is enough for me to switch it all on new ipad m4
Wrong 🎉 - 12:16 - pick the 1 or 2 tb and not the lower storage. Lower storage has a lower processing chip, and only 8gb ram. Ram doubles in the 1 and 2 tb versions. Davinci Resolve runs much better on the 16gb versions. I purchased both and the difference is noticable. Plus the 1tb SSD is also faster than 256 or 512 versions.
I preface that it’s plenty fast. My focus was on a budget build that will be perfect as a display.
@theqazman "budget build " that's 😂$1299? - if you can afford that, $1899 is also within reach
You are correct. The base version was crashing on me and the 1tb doesn’t.
Very good analysis man👏
Ty
Hey Qazi! Thanks for the video… 🤩 I just got it and I was hoping to also use it as a portable editing and color grading with resolves ipad version. I discovered that starting a session from the ipad then moving to the desktop it’s buttery smooth but coming from desktop to the iPod is not reliable and keeps crashing. What are your thoughts about it? Any experiences? ❤
I have to run tests to give you an educated answer. Seems like a r19 bug maybe. FCM Fam ✊🏽
@@theqazmanthanks brother. Maybe a future youtube video about that. 😊 FCM fam 4 ever!
Nice, best review of the iPad from a true content creator, really helpfully pieced together the importance and daily usability. I would increase my storage option but that’s personal preference, and your content driven circumstances. Helped position the value prop of the display purpose brilliantly, cheers 👍
Ohhhh fuck that’s so sick! Didn’t know how powerful this iPad actually was. Especially with the reference mode.
I can see where for colorists this is a game changer 🔥🔥
Damn you! Now I have to consider buying one!
😁
I have the M4 iPad Pro and I can turn on the reference mode from the display settings.
Perf
I feel like the iPad is really not a great device for any creator, except for drawing, but the tech behind it is insane, like we've seen in this video. Thank you Waqas!
Friend, do you have video how other production send to you for grading project, if they work in Premier, how that going, can you explane that process, how to prepare for grading... :) I never see that process on YT. TNX
Watch the free webinar. It's in there.
I just watched your 1 hr. webinar and there were no links at the end for luts and custom nodes.
Did anything change?
Thank you...
Please dm me on IG I'll send it over
I am not sure if the reference mode is what you think it is? From Apple website: “Reference Mode enables your iPad Pro to match the color requirements of your workflow. It targets a D65 white point and disables all dynamic display adjustments for ambient surround, like True Tone, Auto-Brightness, and Night Shift.”
So it turns off all the Apple built in display tech, which make adjustments based on your surroundings. I haven’t seen any vid yet, who tests the tandem OLED screen for color accuracy. Does anyone have a link?
So basically it is what I said it is. 😀
It gives you the most accurate configuration ipad has to offer.
That’s great then. I wasn’t sure
Could this be used as a "poor man's" HDR grading monitor?
So how does this compare to a Macbook Pro M1/2/3 Pro/Max Mini LED display? Still worth getting, or are the Macbook Screens close in their color reproduction quality?
i hv 12.9 pro, m1 16" and played with my friend's 13" m4 ipad. the new ipad is unreal BUT the miniled is far more than decent enough for 95%+ of grading unless you work for hollywood production.
these specs are great and all but is there any way to calibrate an iPad?
Why do you need to calibrate if it's calibrated?
getting next mbp with tandem oled. Gotta save up.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but would it work well as a typical rec 709 display and can I use it as an output monitor from my PC?
Yes, it covers 100% rec.709
@@theqazman thanks! and I would have to use wifi to connect to PC or would it be connected by cable?
It should work as external display for Mac. Not sure about windows. If anyone know can it work as external hdmi display, let me know.
@@brown2840I would just use the remote monitoring option on Davinci resolve.
What a time to be alive! Great analysis Qazi, thanks ✌
You're welcome
You'd be surprised at how inconsistent these panels are. Some shift heavily towards warm/green, while others are better. I had a terrible first one and exchanged it. My second one seems better but it still leans rather warm and green. I read that some panels are made by LG and some Samsung, and they look vastly different. It's the luck of the draw atm. Even within the Apple store I could pick out the same models with different color shifts. Full brightness, true tone off and the same settings. I watched this video when it was first released but came back here to say I'm not sure I can agree with it and would not recommend as a monitor you can trust if you want accuracy. Reference mode does not help alleviate the difference between panels.
I wonder if Samsung will implement the Tandem OLED screens on 2026 Samsung Tab S9 ultra with color management REC 2020. rather use that for colour reference
It's a great display tbh. But I would still not use this as a MAIN reference monitor.
For every color space you work, it's nit value is also important.
Let's say you work in P3-DCI, and I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in India, all the theatres project P3-DCI at 48nits and we work also at 48nits.
Or let's say Rec709, which is at 100nits, and if you work on 1000 nits and someone sees it on a 100nit display, the grade will go off for sure.
It's a great display for sure, but, as you said, will not work in the mainstream film industry as we have all the tech available.
I've been looking at a new monitor, particularly a good oled... Now I kinda want to wait and see what comes out over the next year or so.
not a bad idea
Yo Qazi, has been while !
Ik bro ik. Trying to be regular again. This toolkit took everything out of me.
Very excited about this personally. I already do professional colour grading on my iPad Pro for my media company, so this will just be a huge upgrade. I just wish it was 14 or 15”.
Would make sense to see this Tandem OLED tech in the next Pro Display XDR especially since it struggled with blooming due to using full array local dimming instead of OLED.
I think it's inevitable
LG c1 is good for grading
Can you achieve this with the M2 version 12.9 inch?
They don't have the same display tech
Your iPad does support reference mode yes
@@rowanstrang8072 yes
Have learn soo much from your videos, question im a “Beginner Colorist” have you seen or heard about the ASUS ProArt Display PA278CV I mean you are a PRO hehe and maybe not what what do you think about That Monitor?
Those are solid monitors when set to rec.709. 💪🏽
@@theqazman Thaaank you 🙏🏼
But you can't calibrate an iPad monitor. Isn't that a problem? Because through times, color shift will definitely happen, which make the reference mode less reliable.
It's not as serious as people make it seem. If you have a color accurate monitor you'll be ok.
I need you to compare iPad Pro reference mode with Sony hx310 monitor please. I need to see how it close 😊
now that’s a fun video idea.
@@theqazman please do that comparison by calibrating the iPad pro M4 in reference mode
I'd still get an external monitor the has Rex.709 & Rec.2020
I've never been interested in buying an iPad since I've always used Samsung Tab Ultra. Now that you've explained it in great detail, I will purchase it, and would go great with the new Blackmagic Micro panel that has a slot for the iPad
That's a marriage made in heaven.
Just to understand, what is the difference with a 1400$ Surface Pro, OLED, with delta-E
If you intend using with Resolve for iPad then 16G RAM is really need for good performance and that means getting 1T drive.
Darn it I didn’t get the 1TB SSD. I got the……………..
2TB SSD!
True. I first had the base model and resolve would crash while editing. I returned for the 1tb and no more crashing.
Amen Brother - that is exactly what I got.
Congrats
I bought the 13", NO Nano texture, but I did get 1 TB (I also do photography). Your recommendations were right on target.
Congrats!
I use Davinci on my M1 iPad. It's okay for quick short videos and all but iPad alone is just iPad at the end of the day...not a macbook :(
I've been using apple iPads as monitors for clients the last couple of years now when I don't feel like bringing along my cine monitors to set. These new OLED iPads are a huge asset and I'll be picking up a few of these.
Great idea
When is the split tone video coming 😭😭
very soon
Hey Waqas , very good video . I can do better editing in your videos which can help you to get more engagement in your videos . Pls lmk what do you think ?
Dm me on ig
LG is making the screens for the 13", and Samsung couldn't even meet demand on the 11" model, so I think those were also switched to LG (with maybe some panels coming from Samsung)
They have always had reference mode (at least since M1) on the iPad, you can calibrate it (what they call "fine tune"), and it starts with a delta E of 0.3 out of the box based on the latest display tests. It has been that way since the m1.
There is no monitor on earth (available to pros or consumers) that offers 100% Rec2020 today. Flanders Scientific XMP650 only offers 90% coverage. There is also no tv that can display Rec2020 100%. The standard is built for future proofing...
Samsung pioneered the Tandem Technology. Doesn't matter who makes the screens.
I already said that no monitor covers full rec2020 and mentioned the coverage of the qd OLED which is 90ish.
And also there's no such thing as future proofing in modern tech.
Give it 2 years and devices will be covering or surpassing rec2020 gamut.
@@theqazman oh, sorry i thought 2 years from now was IN THE FUTURE...
Anyone who uses it for digital art should probably get the nano screen, actually.
Tomshardware article covering M4 iPad Pro’s says they only cover 83% of Display P3 color space.
That is absolutely terrible! Especially knowing that some budget computer monitors that are sub $500 and much bigger in size cover 98%! 😢
can you share the link to that article here, could not find it.
In the end we need screen better than most consumer. Finally we will get 1000nits OLEDs. Not against 30k display, but no one watch on it. Not many have anything above 500nits. And I was confused myself for 2 years with TV saying “HDR”. And we have to grade for those screens.
This is very good advice.
However, if the ONLY reason you want or need the new iPad Pro is the color accurate high quality monitoring ... WAIT. Unless you have a critical or immediate professional need.
This display technology will come to desktop monitor displays. Samsung will bring it to their Odyssey G8/G9, and their clients like ASUS or BenQ will turn it into exactly what we actually need for grading. Also - expect an answer from LG.
Expect a device around $3000 USD that is a 27 or 32 inch Tandem OLED display, possibly in 2024, but more likely in 2025.
The wild card is that Apple might update their Studio Display and Pro Display XDR. They like to sell premium displays, and their current lineup is no longer hitting that definition. Of course - who knows what the price might be.
By the way ...ASUS has a Proart 8K 32" MiniLED panel which is very good at around the same $3000 price I just mentioned. It is not perfect like OLED or MicroLED, but with 4096 zones, it is VERY good.
actually, 13 inch ipad pro oled screen is only supported by LG, and 11 inch is only supported by samsung
1600nits peak
Reference monitor is always best bcoz consumer grade display will never be accurate bcoz it doesn't intent its mostly focused on content consumption . so reference monitor is always the way to go....for content creation and to my knowledge specs always doesn't mean good reality will be different. but new iPad displays is gonna be great to have but only to verify how its gonna be end looking on consumer side! I'm no expert.
During the clip he spoke about them being accurate to delta error 2 in reference mode. If this is correct it is as accurate as a reference monitor. Human eyes cannot detect anything lower than delta error 3. It’s not just for watching Netflix. A reference monitor would obviously be better but having one that you can email and play games on is very good. 🥳
So the main issues is not with the hardware of the screen itself but the workflow.
The ideal set up is use a hardware calibrated monitor being fed from a video card output to bypass macs or any computer color management to get less distorted and as accurate colors as possible.
Ipad pro has great color accuracy out of the box but A.) the signal from the mac and that complicated color pipeline/color management via HDMI out will effect the fidelity of the colors coming to any display (accurate or not) (iPad uses wireless feed that is ultimately managed by macs operating system).
B.) iPads cant do a full calibration. You can only fine tune whitepoint and luminance. So those out of box accurate colors will eventually drift over time.
However, the takeaway from this video for me is the solution in providing a consistent review tool in spaces (like ad agencies and freelance clients) that do not have heavy investments in color accurate displays. You can grade alongside an ipad for consumer and review referencing and avoid that situation of “ah this looks too green, when it’s their uncalibrated monitor thats the problem” scenario.
And also his point about the trend of something becoming more catching fire should not be taken lightly.
Apple has already single handly pushed P3 color space into slowly becoming the new standard for device screens from gaming and office monitors to mobile phones.
If other companies started utilizing a reference mode where standardized color parameters are preloaded into the device that would be free lance content creators heaven.
I am not a fan of apple but nothing on the android side matches this for video editing. Its definitely an option especially when traveling
Don’t throw away your 30k monitor though…
Reference mode is for SDR only and cuts the brightness by about half
Wrong, When Reference Mode is on, your iPad Pro displays reference color for these common color standards and video formats, up to 1,000 nits peak brightness for HDR and 100 nits peak brightness for SDR:
BT.709
BT.601 SMPTE-C
BT.601 EBU
sRGB
HDR10 BT.2100 PQ
BT.2100 HLG Dolby Vision Profile 8.4
Dolby Vision Profile 5
Damn i never looked at it in this perspective, i knew high resolution high contrast oled is made on heaven but didint know it's that effective . Honestly im still not geting one till they get 240 hz refresh rate because i cant live without it even if i have to wait another 10 years
Thanks for the tips
lucky that you dont what anything in 24 hz, 30 hz or 60 hz isn't it?
I do agree with you that apple is filthy behind PC when it comes to refresh rate.
@@movieblues4614 well even phone are 240 so idk why apple still goes with 120 even tho it's the same since 2018
If iPadOS is the same of iOS so MacOS is the same of watch OS.
I think you’re not correct
I think it's ironic that Apple is the first to have this display, and the display is made by Samsung.
AFAIK Apple source these from both LG and Samsung, and are 100% responsible for the controller soft- and hardware themselves. There are more pieces required to get this to work than just the panels…
Ipads cant get color calibrated so they are worthless for colorists more or less.
You can indeed calibrate it
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