Got Mara X too, still learning to pull a good shot, so far with some beans results are OK, with some other - an epic fail. Can you tell me please, what "standard" dose is for this machine? I try now to use 18g with "midsize" Lelit basket. Also, as I noticed, preinfusion takes a good 9-10s before pressure kicks fully, so what "ideal" or should I say "typical" extraction time should I aim on this particular machine? All say about 18g in 36g out in 25 seconds, so with this machine should I aim 25+9 seconds (from turning the lever up)? Any tips?...:)
@@naningaleon_1982 it is not a single answer for a solution. Sometimes 18g - 30 seconds - mid temp on middle basket is great, sometimes even at hottest settings 35 seconds and 14-16 g is still too sour, with grind setting alot finer, all with same midsized basket. I think solution is either aftermarket basket, or lelit stock single dose basket, because reducing dose in midsize basket leaves too big gap...
Just got mine, but it seems to brew at 10 bars out of the box, rather than perfect nine like on yours.. I assume you haven't opened it to change the pressure, right?
Hi, all Lelit's machine comes with 10 bars. Based on several readings that is the pressure from pump, however it may not be 10 when it reaches grouphead. Expected to be around 9 bars at grouphead. Mine is actually 10 bars as well, probably from the camera's angle it doesn't look like 10
Bang Edy, saya jujurnya belum pernah pake Elba 2, namun setau saya skr udah ada elba 3. Nah saya pelajari spec nya aja maaf MaraX jauh lebih baik. Boilernya MaraX lebih besar 1.8L dan terbuat dari stainless steel, bisa google ukuran boiler pengaruh kekuatan steam, juga bahan stainless steel byk dipake dimesin komersil yg mahal, sementara elba 2 masih copper ini bahan boiler paling murah sih. Steam wand MaraX anti burn dan ada hot water wand, saya ngga tau kenapa elba 2 tidak ada hot water wand karena kita perlu buang sesekali untuk sirkulasi air di boiler. MaraX juga satu2nya HX di dunia yg memilik double temperature probe didalam boilernya mohon di google di forum2 kopi. Manometer di MaraX ukur tekanan pompa dan steam, elba hanya 1 ukur tekanan pompa saat bikin kopi. Jangan terima pendapat saya tanpa dicek sendiri Finally harganya sedikit lebih mahal yah? mending MaraX dari segi spec dan technolpgy
Hey loved your Video. You get really the taste trough the Video. But can you do us a favor. Can you post your setup of equipment beside the maschine for those who want to do it like you do
Hi ! Is the temperature shown on the thermometer are always higher than what lelit say ? Mode 0 is between 88-92 normally. Probably it is a little bit less on the puck than the thermometer ?
Hi i wish i can answer this question, but i myself not very sure. Actually, E61 thermometer is like s steel iron sticking inside just before water flow into portafilter.
Hello Stefanus, I can't see any video of yours installing the PID. Was it complicated? How much was it? Can you please advise the reference of the PID? Thanks!
Mempertimbangkan daya listrik, kayaknya aku bakal putusin lelit marax (vs elizbth). Ada rekomen seller bang atau better import? Bagaimana ketersediaan parts dan service? Terimakasih, sukses terus Bang Stef (Y)
Bang Asep biasanya saat awal saja dinyalakan pressurenya bisa sampai 2,5 bar dan ini pun dilakukan agar proses pemanasannya bisa lebih cepat dari biasanya, Dan ini benar2 aman. Kalo standby dgn Coffee mode harusnya justru rendah sekitar 0.7 - 1 bar saja
Thank you for the nice video. I still have problems to handle the MaraX in terms of stable temperature in brewing mode. Have it always on Zero but the brewing temp is always way too high. Still coffee is great. But I have zero control. Watched all kinds of videos. In the beginning of you video your temp device while flushing went up to 96°, later brewing temp was around 92°. I guess you have the brewing setup on position 1. What do I have to do in order to keep the brewing temp right at the point where it should be... ? For me still a miracle. Greetings from Zurich, Switzerland.
Hi when you leave the machine for awhile its kinda going for light sleep and steam pressure will be around 0.6 bar this i find to be the perfect time to brew, after brewing heating element will push higher temperature then you get around 1.5bar ready for great steaming. Version 2 is coming though with better features for espresso lovers who doesn't drink white
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Hi if you wonder if your machine has problem try to use blind basket. If with blind basket you can reach 9 or more then your machine is fine. All you have to do is to make finer grind setting.
Stefanus Goana With blond basket I reach 10. But i takes a couple of seconds. With coffee it starts to pour the coffee before it reaches the higher preasure.
Geez good question its hard to answer that. Brew temperature in the grouphead will fluctuate, it does not all the way from beginning till the end. However if i may answer it should be around 1 bar
@@AzizIzgin in this video my first time attempt i did not check steam pressure properly so it was a little sluggish. If only i woke up the machine and wait till the pressure around 1.5 bars surely will be faster. In this video pressure going down as i froth. Please look at my how to froth milk with PL62X
Hey Stefanus! Love your videos. I'm in between the Mara X and Elizabeth and I know you've used both of them extensively. I'm in between them, leaning heavily to the Mara X. I was wondering your thoughts?
@@StefanusGoana I can not understand why they are $100! they look cheaply made and have no aesthetic appeal whatsoever. I would like one which combines both grouphead pressure and temp. I would pay more than $100 for that, but not for a simple made-in-china ugly thermometer.
26 minutes of waiting to the machine is ready ? ... WTF ... in 26 minutes i drink my coffe, get dressed, brush my teeth, get the bike out the garage and go to work.
Ok if you would compare this with nespresso machine or perhaps Delonghi yes they are like using instant water heater for your shower, this type of water heater super cheap compare to water heater system with Boiler. You can find out about their advantage and disadvantage. This is quite similar to coffee maker, some are using thermoblock (instant heater) some like this machine using Boiler. Heating up boiler obviously longer especially Large size boiler but this is probably the only disadvantage. Now if you would compare this machine with other HX E61 grouphead machine MaraX is actually one of the fastest amongst them all. nonethelass, i'm using smart plug to schedule it on 30 minutes before i wake up. If i may analyse abit, this machine may not be the one for you. People who wants to buy this will certainly love to spend hours everyday making coffee and giving TLC to this machine LOL. I guess this hobby is not for everyone.
So what about the recommendation to use a single outlet surge suppressor to avoid electrical damage- how will one use both , the surge suppressor and the smart plug?
Beautiful! My friend has the regular Mara and it's extremely good machine for its price. I was consider waiting for the MaraX, but could not wait any longer and bougght the Bezzera BZ10 (which is very good as well). The MaraX looks like the best bang-for-buck around! Where can I buy the Lelit cuppucino cups and the scale you're using online?
Hi BZ10 i think not E61, however it can heat up much faster. Cups i think you can check from your local lelit distributor. For scale yes i bought from ali express
Hi thanks for your input. in the beginning i flush to introduce water for the first time into the circulation and at the same time if i forgot to place my portafilter at grouphead during intial heatup i can heat up my portafilter as well faster
Hi, great job!
What do you think about Lelit Elizabeth comparing with MaraX? Which one will be you chose?
Excellent! This is the machine I want. Of course now the v.2! Cheers
Just got my Mara! Thank you for the video!
Thinking about adding thermometer to grouphead what are your thoughts on this?
Got Mara X too, still learning to pull a good shot, so far with some beans results are OK, with some other - an epic fail. Can you tell me please, what "standard" dose is for this machine? I try now to use 18g with "midsize" Lelit basket. Also, as I noticed, preinfusion takes a good 9-10s before pressure kicks fully, so what "ideal" or should I say "typical" extraction time should I aim on this particular machine? All say about 18g in 36g out in 25 seconds, so with this machine should I aim 25+9 seconds (from turning the lever up)? Any tips?...:)
Same here! Did you solve it?
@@naningaleon_1982 it is not a single answer for a solution. Sometimes 18g - 30 seconds - mid temp on middle basket is great, sometimes even at hottest settings 35 seconds and 14-16 g is still too sour, with grind setting alot finer, all with same midsized basket. I think solution is either aftermarket basket, or lelit stock single dose basket, because reducing dose in midsize basket leaves too big gap...
Thank you for the quality review. May I ask what would you rather recommend for a regular user, Marax or Lelit PL92T?
I will upload the video very soon comparison of MaraX and Elizabeth. I can't decide for you, you have to decide what is best for you
Just got mine, but it seems to brew at 10 bars out of the box, rather than perfect nine like on yours.. I assume you haven't opened it to change the pressure, right?
Hi, all Lelit's machine comes with 10 bars. Based on several readings that is the pressure from pump, however it may not be 10 when it reaches grouphead. Expected to be around 9 bars at grouphead.
Mine is actually 10 bars as well, probably from the camera's angle it doesn't look like 10
10 bar is probably the setting on OPV on blind portafilter but You should adjust coffee grind courser to reach only 9.
Perfect espreso and steaming. Dengan Elba 2 Lux recommended mana ? Thanks
Bang Edy, saya jujurnya belum pernah pake Elba 2, namun setau saya skr udah ada elba 3.
Nah saya pelajari spec nya aja maaf MaraX jauh lebih baik.
Boilernya MaraX lebih besar 1.8L dan terbuat dari stainless steel, bisa google ukuran boiler pengaruh kekuatan steam, juga bahan stainless steel byk dipake dimesin komersil yg mahal, sementara elba 2 masih copper ini bahan boiler paling murah sih.
Steam wand MaraX anti burn dan ada hot water wand, saya ngga tau kenapa elba 2 tidak ada hot water wand karena kita perlu buang sesekali untuk sirkulasi air di boiler.
MaraX juga satu2nya HX di dunia yg memilik double temperature probe didalam boilernya mohon di google di forum2 kopi.
Manometer di MaraX ukur tekanan pompa dan steam, elba hanya 1 ukur tekanan pompa saat bikin kopi. Jangan terima pendapat saya tanpa dicek sendiri
Finally harganya sedikit lebih mahal yah? mending MaraX dari segi spec dan technolpgy
12 second 40g out? Little sour?
Hi may i know you count from the first drop?
i clock my time normally from lifting up lever. it was 1:38 ended at 2:04
@@StefanusGoana If the shot tasted good that's all that matters, but I think it's supposed to be a slower flow to have a better extraction.
Hi. Maybe I'm asking a silly question but doesn't the brewing stop at a predetermined time or volume? Thanxs
Hi your question is not silly at all, infact you are right. Time and yield are variables we need to take note for adjustment
@@StefanusGoana How do you assess the machine so far? happy? Would you buy it again or an alternative brand? Thank you!!
@@eskerinola5845 If i only have busget for HX i would certainly buy this again, the most advance and affordable Italian made machine
Hey loved your Video. You get really the taste trough the Video. But can you do us a favor. Can you post your setup of equipment beside the maschine for those who want to do it like you do
Ok will do. My set up really change from time to time hahaha...
Hi ! Is the temperature shown on the thermometer are always higher than what lelit say ? Mode 0 is between 88-92 normally.
Probably it is a little bit less on the puck than the thermometer ?
Hi i wish i can answer this question, but i myself not very sure. Actually, E61 thermometer is like s steel iron sticking inside just before water flow into portafilter.
Hello Stefanus, I can't see any video of yours installing the PID. Was it complicated? How much was it? Can you please advise the reference of the PID? Thanks!
Hi may i know which PID? is it the e61 grouphead thermometer?
If yes they are super easy
So quiet!I'm waiting for this machine......
I can feel you, i waited for mine almost 2 months. But its worth it 😁
Hello, help me choosing between milesto Em30 and lelit mara X. Is the extra money on lelit worth it?
From the bottom of my heart i strongly suggest MaraX
Wahahaha baru mau nanya mara x vs general... kenapa lebih milih mara x bang?
Hey, what coffee strainer did u use? 14-18g or 18-21g?
Hi i'm using 18 basket, not the triple basket
I ordered from Melbourne Lockdown and cant wait for the November shipment. Two boilers, Italian aesthetic and small-ish footprint.
Hi Neville, MaraX only have 1 boiler but with 2 temp probes. It is a HX machine
Yes... unless you ordered the Bianca, or Elizabeth, you'll be having just one boiler.
Looking good, very quiet machine
Indeed
OK, now make another coffee straight after - or do you need to wait a long time for it to cool down after steaming?
Hi you can straight away make coffee no problem at all.
Here is the video you need to watch: ua-cam.com/video/TvIAQ03x8a4/v-deo.html
@@StefanusGoana Thanks! So this stability is because this is the X, and earlier or other 'Mara' models are not the same?
@@bigglyguy8429 I'm not too sure about others because i haven't really tried them, however i know for sure only X model has option for coffee mode.
Mempertimbangkan daya listrik, kayaknya aku bakal putusin lelit marax (vs elizbth). Ada rekomen seller bang atau better import? Bagaimana ketersediaan parts dan service? Terimakasih, sukses terus Bang Stef (Y)
Halo bisa beli di tokopedia saya tokopedia.link/DaGvGjumZeb
Can you adjust the temperature less than 92? For example, 89 degrees?
There is no adjustment to that exact temperature, however you can opt for warm temperature setting. and you need grouphead thermometer
Can you steam the milk in the time it takes to pull the shot?
Yes definitely, please refer to my other video about MaraX
Halo bang mau tanya, lelit marax ketika posisi standby tekanan boilernya bisa tembus sampai 2,5bar
Apakah itu aman?
Bang Asep biasanya saat awal saja dinyalakan pressurenya bisa sampai 2,5 bar dan ini pun dilakukan agar proses pemanasannya bisa lebih cepat dari biasanya, Dan ini benar2 aman.
Kalo standby dgn Coffee mode harusnya justru rendah sekitar 0.7 - 1 bar saja
@@StefanusGoana terimakasih penjelasannya bang, semoga chanellnya sukses terus
Beli mesin MaraX dari mana Bang Asep?
@@StefanusGoana belum beli bang, masih liat liat terus tentang marax, agar saya paham sekali sebelum membeli
Hahaha siap, 5 mesin lagi on the way dan tiba akhir bulan. Kalo mau harus pre order karena biasanyq sampai dijakarta lgs habis
Hadir.
Lebih asik kalo sambil ngomong bg, skalian ngasih penjelasan gitu.
Hahaha.. ok dicoba yah nanti di video2 yg baru.
is it a rotary or vibrotary pump ???
Its probably the only Silent Vibration Pump. So quite although its a vibration pump
What is the cup you are using for the grounds?I need to get me this machine, it's so quiet!
Hi Scott, the cup i bought online from china. Yes you should go and buy hahaha...
The group head is suppose to be more stable than most and not requiring a flush. Is this true?
Yes because boiler is set at brewing priority
I’ve been considering this espresso machine to replace my little Capresso ec pro.
Thank you for the nice video. I still have problems to handle the MaraX in terms of stable temperature in brewing mode. Have it always on Zero but the brewing temp is always way too high. Still coffee is great. But I have zero control. Watched all kinds of videos. In the beginning of you video your temp device while flushing went up to 96°, later brewing temp was around 92°. I guess you have the brewing setup on position 1. What do I have to do in order to keep the brewing temp right at the point where it should be... ? For me still a miracle. Greetings from Zurich, Switzerland.
Hi when you leave the machine for awhile its kinda going for light sleep and steam pressure will be around 0.6 bar this i find to be the perfect time to brew, after brewing heating element will push higher temperature then you get around 1.5bar ready for great steaming. Version 2 is coming though with better features for espresso lovers who doesn't drink white
Frumoasa prezentare ,
Sehari klo buat kedai kapasitas brp cup ya bang?
Bisa banyak kalau memang mau dipaksa, di Jakarta saya lihat mesin2 china yg 2jt an juga dipake untuk bikin kopi susu entah tuh tahan berapa lama, pastinya mesin ini tahan lebih lama. Gampang diperbaiki dan ganti sparepart sendiri selama kamu suka ngoprek2.
Kalo mau beli di tokopedia kita ya
tokopedia.link/hN5FIydMwab
50 cups harusnya no problem. Silent pumpnya juga tdk mahal2 banget, kalo pun jebol bisa beli baru
Hi, I use this machine and I dont manage to get 10 bar. With small filter it goes to 6 and bigger only 2-3. What is my mistake?
Hi if you wonder if your machine has problem try to use blind basket. If with blind basket you can reach 9 or more then your machine is fine.
All you have to do is to make finer grind setting.
Stefanus Goana thank you. I will do this test. Is there a setting for the grind or i have to use finer grind?
Stefanus Goana With blond basket I reach 10. But i takes a couple of seconds. With coffee it starts to pour the coffee before it reaches the higher preasure.
@@RafalSzafran Ok that means you need to grind finer. keeps on grind finer. Btw, have you tried double basket?
Stefanus Goana I have the baskets. I tried small one and the middle. With the small one I had max 6-7 bar. With bigger no more then 2-3.
wow was great espresso shot congrulations
This seems to be the smallest espresso machine out there? Did you find one smaller?
There many other smaller espresso machine however maynot have the exact same spec. For this Spec yeah i guess so it is the smallest
How does it compare to regular Mara?
I think their PID and Brewing Priority set up. Thus machine will not bring the steam pressure to the max.
@@StefanusGoana which one do you recommend?
@@victorpre obviously MaraX
would you suggest getting a Mara without the PID? I'm a beginner, upgrading my current Dedica espresso
@@SuperHorizon3 you mean other model of Mara? i think they are good you just have to extra flushing in the beginning to reduce temperature
what's the situation in your city with covid. , now?
Singapore is now free of Covid. Sofar 0 case
@@StefanusGoana perfect !
Perfect. 👏🏻
What is the thermometer you are using with the Unit? Was it included?
Hi i got the thermometer from ebay. You can simply search for E61 thermometer. It is not included in thr Marax box
Here in UK you can buy one called coffee sensor and works a treat.
Have you got the steam nozzle sprayer with 4 hole?
I don't have and i don't know f they exist. In MaraX i think 4 tip not necessary.
What was the exact boiler pressure to get 94 C brewing temperature?
Geez good question its hard to answer that. Brew temperature in the grouphead will fluctuate, it does not all the way from beginning till the end. However if i may answer it should be around 1 bar
Beautiful and great job. But, it’s latte not cappuccino isn’t?
I tottaly agree with you. I get used the term cappuccino for Espresso with steam milk.
@@StefanusGoana great job! it took around 50 seconds to froth right? Do you think that is ok in relation to the amount of milk you had in the jug?
@@AzizIzgin in this video my first time attempt i did not check steam pressure properly so it was a little sluggish. If only i woke up the machine and wait till the pressure around 1.5 bars surely will be faster.
In this video pressure going down as i froth. Please look at my how to froth milk with PL62X
Crema, on my mara, breaks like ice pices, why it may happen?
could be temperature too low
Great job. Did you use pre-ground coffee? I’m thinking of buying Mara X but can’t afford a grinder just yet.
Dialing in the grind size is a must with this kind of machine, so pre-ground is out of the question.
😻💆♂️nice and with music 🙆♂️🙆♂️ can give me name the music 🎶 😻👌
Sorry i can't remember, and i should have given credit also which i didn't. God have mercy on me
Hey Stefanus! Love your videos. I'm in between the Mara X and Elizabeth and I know you've used both of them extensively. I'm in between them, leaning heavily to the Mara X. I was wondering your thoughts?
please refer to my comparison video
great job brother :)
You too, great job in Cambodia 👌🏼👍🏽
What grouphead thermometer is that?
Hi this is just a randome e61 thermometer i bought on Ebay. Just choose the cheapest one, i think they all just the same but has different branding
@@StefanusGoana I can not understand why they are $100! they look cheaply made and have no aesthetic appeal whatsoever. I would like one which combines both grouphead pressure and temp. I would pay more than $100 for that, but not for a simple made-in-china ugly thermometer.
@@GlenEdwards Hi Glen chat with us at www.ace-homebarista.com i have new design thermometer and cheaper as well only about SGD75 excluding shipping
Hello my friend how to increase the temperature of espresso
If you take out dip tray you will see switch to change temperature: warm, hot and extra hot
Stefanus Goana ok thanks for you response but Hwo I know 93 c or 90 or 91 I mean If I have coffee Should I made it by 92 How put it
Stefanus Goana thank you for your response my friend but my question if I have coffee should make espresso for92° how I exactly make it this degree
@@AliAli-wb8ys 0 = 90-92 1=92-94 2=94-96
Thank you for this video! 👍
Your welcome, help me subscribe if possible
26 minutes of waiting to the machine is ready ? ... WTF ... in 26 minutes i drink my coffe, get dressed, brush my teeth, get the bike out the garage and go to work.
Ok if you would compare this with nespresso machine or perhaps Delonghi yes they are like using instant water heater for your shower, this type of water heater super cheap compare to water heater system with Boiler.
You can find out about their advantage and disadvantage.
This is quite similar to coffee maker, some are using thermoblock (instant heater) some like this machine using Boiler. Heating up boiler obviously longer especially Large size boiler but this is probably the only disadvantage.
Now if you would compare this machine with other HX E61 grouphead machine MaraX is actually one of the fastest amongst them all.
nonethelass, i'm using smart plug to schedule it on 30 minutes before i wake up.
If i may analyse abit, this machine may not be the one for you. People who wants to buy this will certainly love to spend hours everyday making coffee and giving TLC to this machine LOL.
I guess this hobby is not for everyone.
@@StefanusGoana by using smart plug, that means we should keep the marax power button at 'On' position, yes? Is that okay?
@@ibnufajar923 yes perfectly fine and even better. Because the on off button may spoilt one day if you keeps on switching for no reason
So what about the recommendation to use a single outlet surge suppressor to avoid electrical damage- how will one use both , the surge suppressor and the smart plug?
Dimana bisa beli mesin nya bro?
Hi mohon dilihat di description video ini, ada link tokopedianya
Looks like a nice machine. What scale are you using?
That was my old casio like scale. Try to get another one but could ot find anywhere
That's a philippino espresso 😉 👍
Beautiful!
My friend has the regular Mara and it's extremely good machine for its price.
I was consider waiting for the MaraX, but could not wait any longer and bougght the Bezzera BZ10 (which is very good as well).
The MaraX looks like the best bang-for-buck around!
Where can I buy the Lelit cuppucino cups and the scale you're using online?
Hi BZ10 i think not E61, however it can heat up much faster.
Cups i think you can check from your local lelit distributor. For scale yes i bought from ali express
@@StefanusGoana Thanks! Please let me know what's what to search for in Ali Express, for the scales.
@@MrPopocatepetl hi buddy search for timemore coffee scale
Brp nih?
Halo 25jt, bisa dibeli di Tokopedia
The flush ist not necessary.
Hi thanks for your input. in the beginning i flush to introduce water for the first time into the circulation and at the same time if i forgot to place my portafilter at grouphead during intial heatup i can heat up my portafilter as well faster