maybe the smaller depth allows for a more concentrated release of pressure, but as for the springs i'm not sure. I can say that the suction is probably better on the "real" ?
Plot Twist!! They were made in the same factory using the same tooling. The "knockoff" version is just using the parts that didn't pass the Authentic quality standards of TiAL and a few lesser expensive parts (steel band vs machines aluminum). This is "very" common in the auto industry. Most autoparts across different "manufacturers" are really made in the same plant with different labels slapped on the box
Korishan I bought a charge pipe and bov together for $120 on Ali Express. The hks Bov it came with is as functional as it gets. Came with the hks ssqv papers too. Functions and sounds the same. It's the same thing, had a few scuffs on the outside which is probably why. I wouldn't risk it on an external wastegate though.
@@JQ_Unity wait a year, itll leak at at the bov O-Ring and they're pretty damn hard to find. Saving on the front end is only gonna cost you on the back end.
Fake works well, just make sure to take it apart and take a good look at it and make sure the diaphragm isn't pinched. Make sure you unscrew the bottom piece plate(that faces the flange/charge pipe) and load it up with red Loctite, too. Mine came loose and I am very lucky it didn't end up destroying my pistons and heads. It was caught in the flange.
You could've at least use a spring pressure tester to test the spring pressure, and also an actual air pressure test to see at what psi the real vs fake bov starts to leak.
I run the fake 50mm. It works well, but I have to say this: TAKE IT APART AND LOOK IT OVER BEFORE RUNNING IT. My flange plate(the part that faces the charge pipe/intake) came loose and was rattling around inside my flange. I am lucky the hole was too small to suck it into the intake, otherwise my head and pistons would be toast! Load that sucker up with red Loctite before you run it!
@@deethaarulaa Still works, red loctite on the flange held up. I don't put a lot of miles on the car, maybe 2000 a year. I am running it with a Vortech v3 centrifugal supercharger so I'm not putting a ton of boost through it.
The fake one sounds allot better and louder. The only thing that trips me out is the material and build quality of the diaphragm. I would think the fake one would go bad sooner due to cheaper stuff but who knows.
You can tell the real TiAL vents a bit faster, but I actually prefer the sound of the fake, hahaha. I love how that car looks. I actually prefer the Z31 to the Z32 and that has to be one of my fav colors.
802 Garage Z31 looks like the best of the late 80s and Z32 looks the best of the early 90s... I’d like the think the Z33 looks the best of the early 2000s cause I have a JDM one shipping in soon lol
@@roddydykes7053 I've literally never heard a 350Z referred to as a Z33, hahaha. Personally out of the 3, the Z31 is still my favorite. They are all good looking cars though. Good luck with your JDM import!
Had to go into the garage and make sure mine was the real deal 🤣. I think the most noticeable difference is the shape of the BOV at the bottom. Real has a C shaped curve while the fake one is flat then a 90 degree angle.
You need to compare apples to apples, the black tial is a q version and the red is a 50mm old version. You can find this two different versions on Egay as well for around 70 dollars compared to 275 for a real Tial Q or the 50mm old version of Tial, to me the Q sounds better in the authentic version of course but the Egay version it doesn’t sound bad, but vacuum & boost leaks is what separate authentic since the knock off tends to leak.
Thing is, you're testing 2 different versions of Tial BOVs. The fake one is a BV 50 and the real one is a Q type...the different versions have different spring rates for vacuum at idle. Pretty apples to oranges test minus a general quality review. The Q type has wider outlets so it doesn't sound as aggressive by design.......
I just want to point out that these blow-off valves will sound different if you use different Springs. you need to redo this test using the same spring in each.
I've used Rea and fake Tial Q. The fake one had a nicer sound, although I didn't verify what springs were in there. The fake one was closed during idle, the real one was open during idle. I'm sure if the springs were setup the same they'd sound about the same
Crazy that the fake one sounds better, but I like genuine parts due to build quality and longevity, I always buy and use genuine parts on customers cars.
Will the Tial springs work on the fake? It has a black spring in it now. I bought one off of ebay that was supposed to be a real one, but after watching this video I see it is a fake.
Not being biased, I have to say, not all knock offs are bad. This fake one comes with steel v band vs real(alloy). You have to be honest steel is way better and stronger. Sometimes you are paying advertising fees,administrations fees, logo fees, extra polish, middle man.....and so on. All these fees added up 7X of basic knock offs. Where when comes to basic and simple, the fake one is just as functional as the real one. And if you want vent quicker and shorter-increase the preload.
@@TurbochargedCreations im tlkin about the versions tho.. the red one is first design. The black one is the new design "Q". Yu should compare them based on the versions.
@@jevaughnmcpherson4138 The video is to mainly demonstrate quality of each product, im sure a Chinese Q knock off would be about the same as this red one
Exactement la noir c'est la version 2 et la rouge version 1 , mauvaise comparaison . Sur la mienne j'ai une fausse phase 2 et ça fonctionne très bien 👍
yo that "fake" one looks like it could be the real one from the previous generation tbh i had that bov before the Q was ever a thing and thats exactly what mine looked like
Alright we all love BOV sounds but shouldn't we be comparing how well they perform instead of which one is louder? Like a pressure test? Like if the fake can hold up to whatever boost your gonna run then yeah get the fake one, it's cheaper, more$$ for other mods. I'd like to think that I wouldn't buy a performance part just to make a louder whoosh
Yes fake one sounds far better. Seriously. It's a spring and vacuum that releases pressure. Why people think something cheap can't do it I will never understand.
Typically with any of these copies, yes. It's actually what most people recommend. Buy a fake, use a name brand diaphragm and seal, Loctite the bolts. Goes for BOV, FPR, and wastegates.
I don't know if it's a real replica I can tell you that you got a second generation blow off valve and first-generation blow off valve in the design Bv50 vs Q
Around 7 yeaes back I've installed fake hks on my evo as i couldn't afford a genuine.btw it still ran fine while all the genuine guys had errors 😂. recently did the titanium piping and tial i don't really think bov is that primary as i run 3071gen 2.
Fake one sounds good, till it falls apart, and get sucked in your engine. We has a friend go trough this a few years back. Spend the money, buy quality. I've have tial on 3 of my vihicles for over 10 yrs.
The fake has different preloads and low quality oring. If it was not written Tial, but BLOWTECH ~ ... It was still a good product, as a first installation.
Only difference is the release port on the (fake one is machined bigger) so more sound,more air, smaller ports,less sounds, they function the exact same, unless one has a tighter spring!😒😕
Fakes leak , diaphragm does not last , my VS Racing (Tial knock off ) ones worked for a year then leaked like crazy. Put a couple on a V8 on about 15lbs and listen.
These videos are out because Tial knows they are screwed. These companies are making thousands on what they pay to manufacturer. If you make it affordable people won’t think twice on skimping out on a brand if they get the same quality
The knockoff is a copy of the older style BV50. The TIAL one is the newer Q50. Not a very good comparison !...….. It would have been better to compare like with like !.
Fake one sound a lot better then the real one if you ask me
maybe the smaller depth allows for a more concentrated release of pressure, but as for the springs i'm not sure.
I can say that the suction is probably better on the "real" ?
Luis Jaramillo sometimes it’s not all about the sound, id rather have better function than a better sound
Lmao i said the same thing
@@woodrowvorters7848 they work fine.. car won't make enough power for it not to anyway.
Sounds like "fffffakeshhh" 😁
Plot Twist!! They were made in the same factory using the same tooling. The "knockoff" version is just using the parts that didn't pass the Authentic quality standards of TiAL and a few lesser expensive parts (steel band vs machines aluminum).
This is "very" common in the auto industry. Most autoparts across different "manufacturers" are really made in the same plant with different labels slapped on the box
Korishan I bought a charge pipe and bov together for $120 on Ali Express. The hks Bov it came with is as functional as it gets. Came with the hks ssqv papers too. Functions and sounds the same. It's the same thing, had a few scuffs on the outside which is probably why. I wouldn't risk it on an external wastegate though.
Actually this knock off Tial is the V1.
But I’ve rebuilt plenty of them with mostly authentic Tial parts. They do great actually.
@@JQ_Unity wait a year, itll leak at at the bov O-Ring and they're pretty damn hard to find. Saving on the front end is only gonna cost you on the back end.
Really? How do you know this? Please inform
@@Justin-dy2ib Correct. The V1 copy is great, the V2 not so much. Been running the V1 copy for 3 years now. No issues
"Fake one" sounds better for my pocket.
Fake works well, just make sure to take it apart and take a good look at it and make sure the diaphragm isn't pinched. Make sure you unscrew the bottom piece plate(that faces the flange/charge pipe) and load it up with red Loctite, too. Mine came loose and I am very lucky it didn't end up destroying my pistons and heads. It was caught in the flange.
Fake one sounds better 😂. Fake one seems pretty decent quality though.
You could've at least use a spring pressure tester to test the spring pressure, and also an actual air pressure test to see at what psi the real vs fake bov starts to leak.
that's what i was hoping for when clicking on thumbnail. or a push with finger on assembled units at least.
I run the fake 50mm. It works well, but I have to say this: TAKE IT APART AND LOOK IT OVER BEFORE RUNNING IT. My flange plate(the part that faces the charge pipe/intake) came loose and was rattling around inside my flange. I am lucky the hole was too small to suck it into the intake, otherwise my head and pistons would be toast! Load that sucker up with red Loctite before you run it!
Thank you very much for that info. I'll be doing that pronto.
How’s the fake one going for you this many years later if you still have it? If not how long did you have it
@@deethaarulaa Still works, red loctite on the flange held up. I don't put a lot of miles on the car, maybe 2000 a year. I am running it with a Vortech v3 centrifugal supercharger so I'm not putting a ton of boost through it.
The knockoff is copying a Tial 50. The genuine is a Tial Q. They would sound different even if the 50 was genuine.
Boost leak test them. That’ll be the difference maker
How
Knock off usually doesnt close all the way happened to me
The fake one sounds allot better and louder. The only thing that trips me out is the material and build quality of the diaphragm. I would think the fake one would go bad sooner due to cheaper stuff but who knows.
You can tell the real TiAL vents a bit faster, but I actually prefer the sound of the fake, hahaha.
I love how that car looks. I actually prefer the Z31 to the Z32 and that has to be one of my fav colors.
Yeah I like the pop ups on the z31
802 Garage Z31 looks like the best of the late 80s and Z32 looks the best of the early 90s... I’d like the think the Z33 looks the best of the early 2000s cause I have a JDM one shipping in soon lol
@@roddydykes7053 I've literally never heard a 350Z referred to as a Z33, hahaha. Personally out of the 3, the Z31 is still my favorite. They are all good looking cars though. Good luck with your JDM import!
If y’all don’t stop it. Only z31 that may look better than a z32 is if it’s compared to a z32 2+2 lol
I've tried many bov's some knockoffs work suprisingly well. They really are simple devices. My two favorites are the Forge and NGR type S.
Had to go into the garage and make sure mine was the real deal 🤣.
I think the most noticeable difference is the shape of the BOV at the bottom. Real has a C shaped curve while the fake one is flat then a 90 degree angle.
One note. The fake one you have to make sure the bottom plate on the bottom does not dislodge. It happens with fake tials on n54 bmws.
Hi..from Italy.
What animal do you have in the house that eats pumpkin?😊
You need to compare apples to apples, the black tial is a q version and the red is a 50mm old version. You can find this two different versions on Egay as well for around 70 dollars compared to 275 for a real Tial Q or the 50mm old version of Tial, to me the Q sounds better in the authentic version of course but the Egay version it doesn’t sound bad, but vacuum & boost leaks is what separate authentic since the knock off tends to leak.
Thing is, you're testing 2 different versions of Tial BOVs. The fake one is a BV 50 and the real one is a Q type...the different versions have different spring rates for vacuum at idle. Pretty apples to oranges test minus a general quality review. The Q type has wider outlets so it doesn't sound as aggressive by design.......
I just want to point out that these blow-off valves will sound different if you use different Springs. you need to redo this test using the same spring in each.
@@jarrettembry643 Exactly what happened
Love the Z31. I had a 86 turbo with a greddy type S.
I've used Rea and fake Tial Q. The fake one had a nicer sound, although I didn't verify what springs were in there. The fake one was closed during idle, the real one was open during idle. I'm sure if the springs were setup the same they'd sound about the same
3:46 i want that bov
Original tial bov :
- aloy clamp
- all screws are chop
- diaphragm a lot deeper
- diaphragm seal are soft rubber
- serial number approve by TIALsport.
I like the sound of the fake one much better!
Such a simple piece. They are hard to mess up
The red one sounds louder at a exaggerating level the black one sounds more decent great video 👍
H. Garcia yeah I agree the black one had a “better” sound while the red a “cooler” sound
Thought I was watching thatdudeinblue at first oof
I'd like to see a pressure test
Crazy that the fake one sounds better, but I like genuine parts due to build quality and longevity, I always buy and use genuine parts on customers cars.
This isn't an apples to apples comparison. Those are two different TiAL models (yes I know one in the video is fake)
Sounds like it was sneezing lol
does the spring give more sound?
Uhh... the knock off isn't the q version... that's why the spring doesn't sit lower
Tial rep with a real Tial spring will be just fine. Will also cost a fraction of the original.
The fake one sounds way better ..... where did u order it from ?
They sound pretty much the same no doubt 👍
Will the Tial springs work on the fake? It has a black spring in it now. I bought one off of ebay that was supposed to be a real one, but after watching this video I see it is a fake.
Got a link to that fake one ?
I actually like the knock off one better lol. This is good info.
1st joint 2nd joint... real scientific there buddy!
Not being biased, I have to say, not all knock offs are bad. This fake one comes with steel v band vs real(alloy). You have to be honest steel is way better and stronger. Sometimes you are paying advertising fees,administrations fees, logo fees, extra polish, middle man.....and so on. All these fees added up 7X of basic knock offs. Where when comes to basic and simple, the fake one is just as functional as the real one. And if you want vent quicker and shorter-increase the preload.
Looks like version 1 vs version 2 tial bov.. you are comparing both i thinkin.. the red is the 1st and the back is the 2nd
Red is a fake $40 knock off, black is real
@@TurbochargedCreations im tlkin about the versions tho.. the red one is first design. The black one is the new design "Q". Yu should compare them based on the versions.
@@jevaughnmcpherson4138 The video is to mainly demonstrate quality of each product, im sure a Chinese Q knock off would be about the same as this red one
Exactement la noir c'est la version 2 et la rouge version 1 , mauvaise comparaison .
Sur la mienne j'ai une fausse phase 2 et ça fonctionne très bien 👍
I couldn't tell the difference between the two from the sound and I had headphones 🎧 on. Great video .
Where did you buy the fake one? Just wondering
Thanks for making this vid; it makes it easy to identify the differences in the real and fake ones
yo that "fake" one looks like it could be the real one from the previous generation tbh i had that bov before the Q was ever a thing and thats exactly what mine looked like
Alright we all love BOV sounds but shouldn't we be comparing how well they perform instead of which one is louder? Like a pressure test? Like if the fake can hold up to whatever boost your gonna run then yeah get the fake one, it's cheaper, more$$ for other mods. I'd like to think that I wouldn't buy a performance part just to make a louder whoosh
Real Q bov vs fake QR bov?
Mine doesn't make a blow off noise at all and it's a tial... Maybe cause it's down in the fender but where can I get the fake one?? I want it louder
sound the same, but the real one had a harder spring thats why you can hear a little bit of a flutter noise just before the swooshh or fully open...
Yup, i want to get a lower spring, which i have, buts its to soft and doesnt run right
So your saying buy the fake one, but then buy the original Tial spring and your good!
Can you do a walkthrough of how you running an Intercooler piping?
Very soon my friend
video posted!
If you ever need a driver's door or left side fender I have a set, and a hatch all that dark gray color.
The the tial bov same as the forge bov ??
Where did you find the fake and search terms?
Thank you for the comparison. Exactly what I was looking for.
What happend to the pumpkin
How mutch boost are you running? Is it on the soft spring?
Where can I get the fake one ?
I recognize your Z! You're in the GTA right?
Yes fake one sounds far better. Seriously. It's a spring and vacuum that releases pressure. Why people think something cheap can't do it I will never understand.
Wonder if you can swap diaphragms between both
Typically with any of these copies, yes. It's actually what most people recommend. Buy a fake, use a name brand diaphragm and seal, Loctite the bolts. Goes for BOV, FPR, and wastegates.
Thsts what I thought , a quality tial diaphragm in the nock off housing = same quality🤔🤷♂️
Great video, appreciated the simple explanation and breakdown.
do you have a part number on these?
especially the fake one lol
Fake one was super loud i give it a thumbs up how long it will last .... i have no clue
I don't know if it's a real replica I can tell you that you got a second generation blow off valve and first-generation blow off valve in the design
Bv50 vs Q
Test how much boost the fake can hold?
39 psi
The real one sounded like a sneeze while the fake one sounded like a whip
Around 7 yeaes back I've installed fake hks on my evo as i couldn't afford a genuine.btw it still ran fine while all the genuine guys had errors 😂. recently did the titanium piping and tial i don't really think bov is that primary as i run 3071gen 2.
Generic tail BOV ftw, just change the spring for your application 😉 they work and sound the same for a fraction of the price
how is it legal to knock off someone elses blow off valve and sell them on ebay ?
Any updates?
Got a link to hut the fake one ? 😂
with fake BOV, I show the world: "I HAVE A TURBO CAR, DAMN! ''
I think both of them sound better than my HKS valve.
Castleberry needs to watch this
Fake one sounds good, till it falls apart, and get sucked in your engine. We has a friend go trough this a few years back. Spend the money, buy quality. I've have tial on 3 of my vihicles for over 10 yrs.
Fake one for the win lol
Fake one has softer springs to let it blow off. That only difference
Are them both pretty much same price
No, 4-5 times the price
The fake has different preloads and low quality oring. If it was not written Tial, but BLOWTECH ~ ... It was still a good product, as a first installation.
😂😂😂 that thing is RoboCop on wheels!!!!
Only difference is the release port on the (fake one is machined bigger) so more sound,more air, smaller ports,less sounds, they function the exact same, unless one has a tighter spring!😒😕
Yeah they sound the same. Should of done harder single pulls so we can get a better idea.
Fakes leak , diaphragm does not last , my VS Racing (Tial knock off ) ones worked for a year then leaked like crazy. Put a couple on a V8 on about 15lbs and listen.
oooooooooooooooo i like that knock off one daammmnnnnn
A pretty good knock off
Z31 yeah!
in the UK the TIAL one is £250 and the chinese one is £40
Bei 210 Euro mehr für den selben Zweck ziehe ich das China Produkt mit Sicherheit vor.
Greddy type s sounds the best
Fake sounds good as well
Fake one sounds alot better than real one
The fake one wins in sound 😎
Not a fan of the tial sound personally. I like hks a lot more.
The fake one actually sounded better
Nice review
You can buy a real diaphragm and put it on a bootleg tial and it works fine
These videos are out because Tial knows they are screwed. These companies are making thousands on what they pay to manufacturer. If you make it affordable people won’t think twice on skimping out on a brand if they get the same quality
Where do I get the fake one haha, sounds way better.
The knockoff is a copy of the older style BV50. The TIAL one is the newer Q50. Not a very good comparison !...….. It would have been better to compare like with like !.
We didnt buy the bov just for this video. Its what we had
Do a leak test
Y does the fake one sound better
Fake?