Great insight on tennis elbow. I had severe tennis elbow in 2002 after taking a coaching job at a local high school in Virginia (USA). No one on the team could hit with her, so I assumed the role. I had played college tennis in the 70s, but I had not played much in years. Too much hitting and stiff Prince racquets killed my arm. I use Donnay an Pro Kennex now.
I've drastically reduced a persistent 2 year case of TE with the following: 1.Switched to Clash 98 with soft Poly's like: Tour Bite Soft, Isospeed Cream, Hyper G Soft, Gosen Sidewinder. 2.Stopped hitting extreme 1HBH Slice. Loosened grip dramatically on serve. Full follow through on every shot. 3. Injections of BPC-157 and TB500 into elbow area. 4. Graston on forearm, upper bicep and wrist areas. 5. Strengthened Wrist, Shoulder and back muscles that support shoulder (look up shoulder impingement exercises). 6. Stopped bracing! This has allowed my muscles to strengthen and support. I've had a dramatic recover in the last 2 months while still playing.
@@bournejason66 I thought the same, and I've used every variety of brace. The high forearm brace with the pressure pad does relieve the acute pain while you're playing, but also restricts circulation and the development of strength and mobility that will be necessary for long term healthy functioning. So getting off the brace to restore normal function should be a focus as you heal. After warmup, try a few minutes without bracing, then 15 minutes etc. But FIRST, step one is stop playing tennis for a month and do intensive strengthening of the shoulder, back and wrist. After every PT session, take the back of a butter knife with some lotion and "comb out" all the knots and unsmooth areas of your muscle fibers on your forearm, wrist and muscles just above the elbow. It should hurt a bit, and your skin will be very red, it's ok. Then do the flexbar/wrist stretches etc that you often see for TE. Ice is useless.
Hi Jonas, I have to say that you saved me thanks to your videos. I played tennis casually and didn't know anything about strings, tensions, stiffness... Thanks to you I have mainly focus on saving my arm while having fun with my racquet. I'm now playing tennis with your racquet of choice (Prestige MP 2019), full bed of poly (soft poly) at 21kg. Right now I'm enjoying so much because of what I have learnt from you (I have moved from a pure drive 285gr to prestige mp 320 gr. Thank you very much for all your videos because I could have killed my arm.
I use prestige MP 2019 and its the one that gave me tennis elbow. I dont play with a dampener. I noticed there was a lot of vibrations from the frame. I followed the advice of Intuitive Tennis. I am using a pure drive 2018 with PTP strings. I am using a dampener now as well. Pain is better for sure but still there is pain, I am planning to string it lower maybe 46lbs next time. I noticed that it makes me more relaxed because the racquet's power helps every stroke. But i changed from a 1HBH to a 2HBH since I knew it was hurting when I used it on the prestige MP.
Hi Jonas: Your channel is amazing and has really helped me to better understand the causes of tennis / golfers elbow and how I can adapt to get on the road to recovery. I have had golfers elbow for the last 18 months due to a mixture of poor technique (hitting the ball late and too close to my body) and using the wrong racket and strings. I took some lessons to improve my swing. I switched to ProKennex rackets strung at 51lbs using Wilson NXT Soft 1.30 /16. I now use a Theraband daily and although the golfers elbow is still with me I would estimate its about 80% better. I also had some shockwave treatment on the elbow which I think gave it the kickstart needed after 18 months of pain. As I say your advice and tips have been super helpful and I really value your videos and the time you take to explain everything. I appreciate new rackets can be expensive, but I would have no hesitation recommending ProKennex to the players with TE / GE issues. I find the racket plays as well as my previous rackets (mainly Yonex E Zone 98 DR and VCore 98) and I can get fantastic spin on the ball. Maybe not as much pace on the ball as the Yonex rackets, however I find it helps me keep the ball in court much better! One question I read somewhere that rackets typically lose 10% of tension in quite a quick period so am I really playing at about 45lbs tension??!! Keep up the great work!!! Mark
Not always stiff racquets, stiff strings and high tension generates tennis elbow. I started to play with stiff racquet (2013 AeroPro Drive), stiff string (Kirschbaum Super Smash Orange), and high tension (now I use 58 lbs, but I played with 62 lbs without any problems) at 59 YO. I didn't had any issues, neither with the elbow or with the shoulder. And I have 1HBH also! Previous 2013 AeroPro Drive I played for years with 2015 Blade 104 v5. But I move away from it. But I do warm up, train a lot, massage and heat treatment for the muscles, and so on. And, the most important thing, I train a lot to have better technique and timing!
I changed a lot of things immediately after the first pains. I reduced my racquet from 310 grams to 270 grams (which improved my net play considerably). I changed the string to a softer one, I have to string considerably more, but I can play and my condition is improving. My new racket : Prince TwistPower X105 Racket (270g, Stiffness:60), My new string ( for Multifilament Tennis Strings) : Head IntelliTour (6.5 m/5.5 m) 1,25 mm (The natural guts wasn't so good for me, I would like try : Gamma Live Wire Professional ,12,2 m, 1,22mm, 1,27 mm) String Tension : 20-21 kg, Training: swimming, sauna, and POWER BALL
Golfer Elbow started with Pure Strike (I loved the frame) & Solinco Poly & 50Lbs.... TBH, I think it was more the catalyst than the root cause (bad technique, age, poor warm-up, playing through pain). I switched to Clash and softer strings but it was still painful. Went to doc and I have a 1cm tear in my flexor tendon so have completely stopped tennis right now. I am doing the "Knee Over Toes Guys" program and they have a protocol for elbow that I am following everyday working step-by-step with NO PAIN. Will see how it goes. At the moment, I have no pain most of the day but left elbow is definitively stiffer. I will go again to the doc in one month and consider PRP. I keep on reinforcing my forearm muscles. FlexBar never worked for me. I also "Voodoo Floss" everyday but no real improvement. Will keep you posted! Thx for the video!
I switched to Clash racket with natural gut 48 lbs, stopped backhand slice until I recovered, wearing a elbow sleeve at light seemed to help as well. I now wear the bandit brace when I play
I bought 1 reel of RPM and Aero 300 because of Nadal. Caused me so much pain and sore. I ended up sold the aero and bought speed pro strung up with RPM, problem still persisted. I finally bought Ezone 98 strung with Solinco Hyper-G, problem fixed! Despite Hyper-G has a lot of vibration, it is surprisingly arm comfy! The rest of RPM reel… I gave it away to someone and he later told me that string gave him pain!
Tumbling upon this video while I’m out due to a golfer’s elbow! And I have experienced exactly all that stuff. My advice to everyone is as soon as you have a pain then stop playing, rest, rest and rest until it is back to normal. Or you are gonna suffer it for a long time.
I had TE in 2010, bought a Pro Kennex Ki5 PSE (super arm-friendly). Went out to hit. I hit three balls, stopped, and didn't pick up a tennis racquet for six months. I came back on the courts with the Head IG Prestige MP with ALU Power at 51 and have been using it since then. No more stiff racquets for me. I do the Flexbar daily and I'm in the gym or my home gym five days a week. One other really important thing: if you play with poly, don't play with dead poly. I cut it out the strings after eight hours of play time which means that I have to record the amount of time I play with each racquet. I have heard this from many other players too. I could go to softer strings but it would likely mean changing racquets and I have a setup which works (in that it plays crisp enough without arm problems). If I changed, it would change the feel and I'd have to make the long-term adjustments that everyone goes through with different equipment.
This is golden and great recommendations. I’m really into calisthenics and it is possible to get tennis elbow from there as well. Your advice is spot on especially with regards to the interplay between racquet stiffness, string stiffness and string tension. I usually either do a soft racquet with stiff strings or a stiffer racquet with a softer copoly- that optimizes my performance and comfort. But I was choose arm health over performance if push comes to shove.
I hit babolat with stiff 15L with lead ....killed my elbow, took 3 months off. Started using "BAND-IT" wrap.....no pain. Even with the "kneed it" wrap.....knees never hurt now. And before the 3 month break it hurt to step up a sidewalk. Might just be my experience, but those eradicated all the pain I experienced before. My knee and elbow never hurt now.
Thanks partly to this channel, I bought a handful of 2019 Prestige MPs and gradually went all the way down to 30lb tension with thin polyester strings. Shoulder and elbow are happier than ever
I have played tennis for very long time. Last 2 years I had tennis elbow . I came to conclusion that my problem is my service technique. I serviced with stiffened arm and I often hit top of the frame. I took care to hit properly and pain disappeared in 4-5 weeks. Similar story with a wrist long time ago - nothing to do with material but always with bad striking style and frame hitting. Not in line with expert´s opinions.......
I didn't think this could happen to me but it did. Last night I had severe pain in my shoulder and elbow, really in all the higher part of the arm. I had to take painkillers because I couldn't sleep with the pain. It's the first time this happens to me and I'm quite concerned. I've been playing with the Pure Strike 98 16x19 2nd generation (the ProjectOne7) for a couple of years now. With this racket I have been playing the best tennis of my life, I play in a couple of rankings and went really high in the ranking, and won some matches that I couldn't think of winning before. But it seems this comes at a cost. The thing is, as I go higher the opponents play harder, also I'm playing with more frecuency than before (2 or 3 times a week instead of 1). The other day during a practice I started hitting some strong forehands without the proper warmup (big mistake) and felt some discomfort in my shoulder. Didn't think it was severe, the next day I played a match against a player with a very big serve, also had some discomfort but wasn't too worried. But that night, some hourse after the game, the pain grew really strong. Now I'm very concerned. I play with MSV Focus Hex soft at 23-22 kg, and with a leather grip and overgrip (I don't know if the leather grip contributes more to TE). I think I should change the racket, or the strings, or both, and drop tension, and also rest from playing a couple of weeks. I also have to go to a physio and see what he recommends...
For me, adding weight at strategic points of the racquet and stringing low, avoids tennis elbow. In my case, the 2022 EZ98 stock form even strung with full poly at 45 lbs would hurt my arm, but depolarizing it (adding weight at 3 & 9 + top of handle (just below the throat)+ leather grip) fixes that issue and plays a lot more stable while still maintaining good maneuverability!
I had The same issues when I was using the RPM Blast - way to stiff. Now I am using a Hybrid Version mit Multifilament Gut in the Crosses and it is getting better.
The email sounds very similar to an ongoing injury I have. I feel pain in the distal third of the humerus which can radiate up towards the shoulder and into the elbow when severe. Primarily it's just a dull boney pain, very similar to boney pain i've felt with stress fracture or shin splints in my legs. I can only play a couple of times a week to manage the pain. The pain is not made worse by bending or straightening the elbow in any way. The pain can be made worse when stressing the humerus bone in isolation, such as putting all my weight on the right arm as if I was going to do a single arm press up. Arm is straight though. This will be stressing the humerus bone. Serving in tennis makes the pain worse. I have not seen a physio but I'm quite sure my symptoms are not TE and are in fact a stress fracture of the distal humerus which is a rarer injury that can found in sports with an overhead movement. This has not been officially diagnosed but the original poster behind the video may want to consider this a possibility and seek professional help.
Loose grip has many advantages including minimal vibration and smooth strokes. I have only had tennis elbow once and golfers elbow a few times over many decades of play. The racket makes a difference (no problems after switching to ProKennex). I string at 58 lbs which is probably high nowadays but unless I get problems I will probably not change.
I always wondered why Federer doesn't have any arm issues and I think it's because he spins the racquet in his hand between serves... Serving & receiving. I have been doing the same and I find releasing the muscles in my forearm is really helpful. That and making sure I hit relaxed and have a loose follow through are important. I use an RF97A strung with RPM Blast outdoors in winter and Champs Choice strung at 58lbs for all matches. Also, the point about warm-up and stretching is really important. "Touch wood" I haven't had any elbow or shoulder issues.
Likewise I switched to Prokennex about 6 months ago and its made a real difference. I string at 51lbs using Wilson NXT Soft strings. Use a Theraband Flexbar daily also. This combination seems to be doing the trick for me!!
Went back to Angell rackets with their Halo soft string. Spent time training with weights and elbow healed. Used to love stiff rackets but couldn't justify the enduring pain
Great vid. Great insights. One thing I’ve purchased in the past year is a hyper ice. Hypervolt. Massage gun. Because I hit a lot of balls per week, I occasionally get a stiff elbow. Since I’ve used the hypervolt after hitting sessions, it’s helped alleviate the stiffness (and works extremely good for sore muscles). I don’t go crazy with the speed. Just semi-light on the inside and outside of the forearm. Ask Santa for one.
I’ve used to suffer TE every year! Now it’s gone. How? Buy yourself the most flexible racquet you can afford, string it with natural gut and use it until the pain goes away. It will go away pretty quickly.Think of it as a temporary therapy racquet. Once the pain subsides, you can go back to your old racquet, although wiser to find something that fits Jonas advice. The MAIN cause of TE is when the racquet sends VIBRATIONS at a particular frequency that is unnatural to your particular physiological body up thru your arm, this vibration rubs bone against tendons which causes damage. Main causes of TE, racquet too stiff Vibration doesn’t suit your body Racquet strings are too tight, Your playing too much tennis (apparently if you play more than 3 times a week your risk sky rockets). Don’t play everyday, don’t play everyday, DONT PLAY EVERYDAY! Peace to you all and good luck in everything you do. C
Great video. I think my issue is hitting my forehands late and/or too close to my body (with the elbow near my me). I've been using a Yonex Ezone 98 with monofilament but now switching to multifilament (at 47 pounds). I'll try to fix my technique and timing and I'm also going to a physiotherapist to help heal the injury. As you say, its important to warm-up before every session and to do exercises to strength the arm and forearm muscles. All that should help, and the last resource will be change the racket :(
Usually, Tennis elbow pain originates in the neck. You have to do a lot of exercises to make your neck more flexible and to improve your posture, and the elbow pain will gradually pass! About the racquet, the Clash strung in luxilon element hurt my elbow, and for 6 months I play in Pure Aero with black code and no pain, how to explain that?
Similar experience: played with Head Graphene 360 and Wilson PS97L and Clash with elbow pain. Switched to Babolat Pure Aero and quite soon elbow pain was gone.
Guys, dont be scared to switching to soft frames, they are even better as stiffer powerfull frames. I played lot of years with stiff rackets as aeropro drive gt,pure aero, pure strike 98 v2, v3 and my shoulder was dead. I told myself its enought. I bought vcore95 2018 version, awesome no pain after vcore i played gravity pro top racket and now i bought prestige mp 2020 version. All 3 rackets super plush, no pain,controlled, no lack of power or spin cause im heavy baseliner player with lot of topspin on forehand and flat backhand. But you have to buy softer strings, never used multi or natural gut, poly tour pro is the way, i played with it 4 years, no problem. Now i want to switch to big hitter silver will see its better or worse as ptp. And of dont string too high, 21-22kg to this type of rackets is sweetspot, Idk its 46-48lbs.
I use pure aero with rpm blast, 52lbs. Really love playing with it. But after a year, my elbow is hurting. Now am using multifilament and dropped to 50lbs. Will have to drop further if the pain continues.
There are several possible sources for tennis elbow. For me it was computer use. I use a computer for work and I'm also on a computer quite a bit at home. It is important when using a computer not to keep your hand resting on your mouse for long periods of time. You may not notice it, but keeping your hand on your mouse for long periods of time can constrict blood circulation in your hand/arm. This caused me tennis elbow in the past. Once I made a concerted effort to limit this, my tennis elbow went away.
Thanks for this video. I am currently using the Head Radical MP 2021 and I have a tennis elbow... I have not played for last 2 months and rested it out but it has not yet healed. I am 40 and I wanted your recommendation on which racket I should move to.. Thank you...
Just on the money topic; I would think of it this way. How much money would you spend on a physio? A few sessions, and you're already talking big money. Compare that with selling your current stick/s, and replacing them with something easier. You can demo sticks for not much money, and often what you pay for the demo is discounted when you buy a new stick from the store. If you find a stick and string combination you're happy with, great. You can then get go home with that from the store, and Ebay your old sticks, and buy some new ones from Ebay. All up, you'll probably be able to make the swap without breaking the bank. And I agree with the central point here; health comes first. Maybe get an MRI to see exactly what's causing the issue as well. You may need to take a few weeks / months off to get healthy, do the right physiotherapy to build the area back up again, and then GRADUALLY get back into it.
I think u missed talking about vitamin d and e supplements , tendocare tablets and stuff like that. I personally havent taken them but heard they might help
I’ve got the same problem. Don’t think it’s tennis elbow. Checkout “Radial Tunnel Syndrome” it’s the nerve. Thought it was TE. switched to Natural Gut iced, TENS machine, no help whatsoever. Think rest and Nerve Glide exercises. Should help.
for awhile i thought it was radial tunnel syndrome as well since the pain is 95% gone but a little bit pain 4 cm from the pointy bone. I kept working on the flexbar and now it's 99% healed.
Thank you for your informative sharing as always. I have been playing recreational level for 20 + years and never had any lasting or serious elbow issues. A couple months ago, I added 3g of lead at 3 and 9 o'clock and 8g at the handle of my Dunlop CX200 OS (295 unstrung factory spec). The set up came to as fit as I could find as it clearly improved my serves, volleys and even ground strokes. But, after a few weeks of my best tennis plus added one extra session per week, my elbow gave in. I am curious to know was it mainly due to the added weight, or overplayed?
So, my issues is that racquets like the Clash 98 (v1 or v2) or the new ProKennex sticks have some pretty hefty swing weights that stress my wrists. What do you think about the Prince Phantom 97P?
Reading the comments below and quickly one common theme emerges: polyester strings. I don’t understand why people who have already suffered TE still using poly? If you need to use poly to get the ball in court or to hit spins, you really need to work on your basics. Pros use poly to get extra edge but at the same time, their chance of hitting off-center is a lot lower than rec players. Also don’t put polyester strings on a pedestal just because strings companies says “spin potential “. It’s their marketing. Use multi or gut and your elbow will speak and says thank you 😊
yeah its about the prize :o poly is less expensive. The best is to warm up with elastic, and to change poly each month maximum, after a long period of tennis elbow, ( 2 year to fix) now i play with yonex 330gr and poly . i had get golf elbow in less of 5 min in volley tennis, because used a old string from 10 years without change and old racket
@@kaafaa8036 the tension maintenance in gut and multi is better than poly. And if you change poly often, which one should do, the price difference isn’t that big. If you consider the doctor appointments and discomfort one suffers, multi and gut is a distant win IMHO.
What do you consider a stiff racquet RA? I had a Yonex Vcore 100, RA was 65. I just switched to the Solinco Whiteout 18x20, and while it is a 66, it's foam fill makes it feel comfy but perhaps I am just thinking that and my arm feels differently. I do have Tennis Elbow from even before the Vcore and so I have swtiched to Wasabi Main and Velocity MLT cross to help at 48/50. Seem ok or would a Blade with an RA of 62 make a big difference or a Tf40?
Hi Jonas, thank you for the content! Why didn't you recommend the new Yonex VCore Pros? They' re very smooth and comfortable, more than most rackets. I know that Yonex rackets have a unique feel, and they' re not for everyone (they cannot "replace" a Babolat racket for sure), but many people should know that option as well. Thank you again!!
Good advice in general, but not a single mention of the first port of call when you feel the slightest pain: rest! As tennis obsessives, taking weeks or even a couple of months off can sound and feel like a disaster, but tendon injuries only get worse if not allowed to fully heal, and only rest can allow that.
True if there’s significant pain and be aware that rest alone won’t help much, you need to break up the scar tissue with massage and strengthen the relevant muscles. You can play and get better if pain is not making you wince if you wear brace to offload pressure and follow advice on this video. Mine cleared up and I only stopped playing a short time.
I had tennis elbow a few months ago and it went away. I got it the second day I used my new Yonex Vcore 100 pro that my daughter bought me. Prior to the Vcore, I used a Wilson clash 100. I worked out and waited and my tennis elbow went away until today when it came back. I think I'm going to have to go back to the clash. When I train, I hit lots of balls from my machine (sometimes a thousand a day). I think I get it when I play and push my balls instead of stroking. I noticed I really push my balls on the server and don't serve like I practice,i serve like I'm aiming the ball. Who knows, but I'm bummed out because it hurts to pick stuff up.
I played for several months trying different racquets. Started to develop tennis elbow after a couple of nights in a row where I mis-hit far too many serves. Mis-hits were sending too much shock to my arm. I switched to a heavier racquet and noticed immediately that I wasn't getting shock to the arm on mis-hits. I've been working on a 2 handed backhand to take some pressure off the arm and I am looking into other options for the future. One thing I haven't been able to find out is if adding lead tape will reduce shock vibration? I've also been looking at Bolt racquets, but there are not too many play reviews of this racquet.
Lead tape, depending on where you place it, can help. Putting some at 3 and 9 can help stabilize the racquet. If you add too much at the tip, you might find it difficult to swing as the swingweight will be too high. Adding weight to the handle is a great way of increasing the static weight without affecting the maneuverability too much. This is my preferred option these days as most modern racquets are not head light enough for me. You can use silicone in the handle instead of lead or switch to a leather grip.
There's a tennis racquet metric called twistweight and TW has a chart of racquets and their twistweights. A higher twistweight means more comfort as the racquet is less likely to twist in your hand on mishits. Lead tape can provide better protection against shock at a loss of maneuverability. My racquets have 15 grams of lead tape on them. You can hit the ball anywhere on the strings or the frame and you won't feel any shock.
Thanks for info. I've got lead tape arriving today. Going to start with 8 grams in the hoop and 8 grams on the handle to maintain balance then go from there
I've been experiencing the exact same problem in the last couple weeks. I play with the Extreme Tour, strung with lynx tour 17 at 22kg/48.5lbs. I'm about to try some multis, if it doesn't get better do you think switching to a Blade would be a good option? I've tried the Gravity line but it's way to soft for me
Hi, I used an ezone and moved to blade recently. I string mine mad soft (35lb) just for my arm and funny enough I maintain control with the 18*20 and it's super comfy. Recommend it!
You have plenty of room to try dropping the tension...about 5 lbs at a time is good to try, you could also try a hybrid with a multifilament in the crosses as an in between if you still like the poly performance....recommend velocity mlt...
@@andyyzf450 I was playing with 53lbs, dropped to about 48. The issue is that I’m afraid that it might affect the control of my shots… A guy at my club recommended a hybrid with the same string, definitely going to try it out
@@JT-zv1rx I was really surprised how much control I have with the lower tensions for polys, used to have 56 lbs, worked my way down to 40 lbs for poly and 42 lbs multi. Hope the multi hybrid helps!
I still have degree of tennis elbow, but around 8 months ago it was that bad, I couldn't work or play tennis. I'm surprised that using elbow support wasn't on your list of prevention or management of tennis elbow? As a sufferer, I have spent hours of reading, plus hundreds of pounds on treatments, creams, massage guns, flex bars, and drugs. Other things which have helped me return to playing have been vitamins, minerals and really good elbow supports. MSM is a good supplement, it's a natural anti-inflammatory. I also eat a whole plant-based diet, there are little to no inflammation markers eating whole plants. I have used all sorts of elbow supports and only two brands work. If you are interested or I can help you, please message me. I know tennis elbow is awful.
Buy a Powerball and use it...and buy a classic old racquet, no one gave me pain on my elbow...new racquets with low weight, high string tensions and new balls are elbow killers
This comment isn't going to be popular ^^ Nevertheless: you want to get rid of tennis elbow and almost all other inflammations once and for all? Go plant-based. Reason is simple: when you eat animal products, you are eating a lot of biologically active substances such as hormones, bacteria, immunoglobulines, all from a different species, which makes your immune system react and stay at a higher basal level than when you eat only plants. So when you are fully plant-based, you don't inflame easily and you just recover faster from any damage. Just ask Hurcacz and Djokovic about their speed of recovery and how much of that they attribute to their plant diet. I used to have a lot of tennis elbows, knees issues, shoulder inflammations. Well ever since I've turned vegan 5 years ago, they are all but gone. I'm 49 and play at least 7 hours a week. Cheers.
I don't doubt what a vegan diet can do for someone, but if you're playing with a stiff racquet and poly strings, you could be in for trouble. This depends upon your age, flexibility, and fitness level.
I totally agree. I eat meat, not vegan or vegetarian but I almost don't eat carbs. I eat beans and lentils, quinos with veggies as a base and then meat and cheese/fat for satiety. Almost no carbs. I have really low inflamation overall. Could get better without the meat but I'll get less satiety. Even if you're not vegan, being plant-based is fantastic for your health. I also play a lot 4-10h/week all the time. -Head Speed mp 2022/ poly / 44-48 lbs (20-22kg) changed under 20h.
Great insight on tennis elbow. I had severe tennis elbow in 2002 after taking a coaching job at a local high school in Virginia (USA). No one on the team could hit with her, so I assumed the role. I had played college tennis in the 70s, but I had not played much in years. Too much hitting and stiff Prince racquets killed my arm. I use Donnay an Pro Kennex now.
I've drastically reduced a persistent 2 year case of TE with the following:
1.Switched to Clash 98 with soft Poly's like: Tour Bite Soft, Isospeed Cream, Hyper G Soft, Gosen Sidewinder.
2.Stopped hitting extreme 1HBH Slice. Loosened grip dramatically on serve. Full follow through on every shot.
3. Injections of BPC-157 and TB500 into elbow area.
4. Graston on forearm, upper bicep and wrist areas.
5. Strengthened Wrist, Shoulder and back muscles that support shoulder (look up shoulder impingement exercises).
6. Stopped bracing! This has allowed my muscles to strengthen and support.
I've had a dramatic recover in the last 2 months while still playing.
No.6 is a bit puzzled to me. I thought bracing helps with TE. No?
@@bournejason66 I thought the same, and I've used every variety of brace. The high forearm brace with the pressure pad does relieve the acute pain while you're playing, but also restricts circulation and the development of strength and mobility that will be necessary for long term healthy functioning. So getting off the brace to restore normal function should be a focus as you heal. After warmup, try a few minutes without bracing, then 15 minutes etc. But FIRST, step one is stop playing tennis for a month and do intensive strengthening of the shoulder, back and wrist. After every PT session, take the back of a butter knife with some lotion and "comb out" all the knots and unsmooth areas of your muscle fibers on your forearm, wrist and muscles just above the elbow. It should hurt a bit, and your skin will be very red, it's ok. Then do the flexbar/wrist stretches etc that you often see for TE. Ice is useless.
Hi Jonas, I have to say that you saved me thanks to your videos. I played tennis casually and didn't know anything about strings, tensions, stiffness...
Thanks to you I have mainly focus on saving my arm while having fun with my racquet. I'm now playing tennis with your racquet of choice (Prestige MP 2019), full bed of poly (soft poly) at 21kg.
Right now I'm enjoying so much because of what I have learnt from you (I have moved from a pure drive 285gr to prestige mp 320 gr.
Thank you very much for all your videos because I could have killed my arm.
Volkl Cyclone Tour, Diadem Solstice Power Black - @48lbs...both work really well for me...
Perfect timing, I’ve recently had some arm pain for the first time and I definitely appreciated your suggestions!
I use prestige MP 2019 and its the one that gave me tennis elbow. I dont play with a dampener. I noticed there was a lot of vibrations from the frame. I followed the advice of Intuitive Tennis. I am using a pure drive 2018 with PTP strings. I am using a dampener now as well. Pain is better for sure but still there is pain, I am planning to string it lower maybe 46lbs next time. I noticed that it makes me more relaxed because the racquet's power helps every stroke. But i changed from a 1HBH to a 2HBH since I knew it was hurting when I used it on the prestige MP.
Hi Jonas: Your channel is amazing and has really helped me to better understand the causes of tennis / golfers elbow and how I can adapt to get on the road to recovery. I have had golfers elbow for the last 18 months due to a mixture of poor technique (hitting the ball late and too close to my body) and using the wrong racket and strings. I took some lessons to improve my swing. I switched to ProKennex rackets strung at 51lbs using Wilson NXT Soft 1.30 /16. I now use a Theraband daily and although the golfers elbow is still with me I would estimate its about 80% better. I also had some shockwave treatment on the elbow which I think gave it the kickstart needed after 18 months of pain. As I say your advice and tips have been super helpful and I really value your videos and the time you take to explain everything. I appreciate new rackets can be expensive, but I would have no hesitation recommending ProKennex to the players with TE / GE issues. I find the racket plays as well as my previous rackets (mainly Yonex E Zone 98 DR and VCore 98) and I can get fantastic spin on the ball. Maybe not as much pace on the ball as the Yonex rackets, however I find it helps me keep the ball in court much better! One question I read somewhere that rackets typically lose 10% of tension in quite a quick period so am I really playing at about 45lbs tension??!! Keep up the great work!!! Mark
Not always stiff racquets, stiff strings and high tension generates tennis elbow. I started to play with stiff racquet (2013 AeroPro Drive), stiff string (Kirschbaum Super Smash Orange), and high tension (now I use 58 lbs, but I played with 62 lbs without any problems) at 59 YO. I didn't had any issues, neither with the elbow or with the shoulder. And I have 1HBH also!
Previous 2013 AeroPro Drive I played for years with 2015 Blade 104 v5. But I move away from it.
But I do warm up, train a lot, massage and heat treatment for the muscles, and so on. And, the most important thing, I train a lot to have better technique and timing!
I changed a lot of things immediately after the first pains. I reduced my racquet from 310 grams to 270 grams (which improved my net play considerably). I changed the string to a softer one, I have to string considerably more, but I can play and my condition is improving. My new racket : Prince TwistPower X105 Racket (270g, Stiffness:60), My new string ( for Multifilament Tennis Strings) : Head IntelliTour (6.5 m/5.5 m) 1,25 mm (The natural guts wasn't so good for me, I would like try : Gamma Live Wire Professional ,12,2 m, 1,22mm, 1,27 mm) String Tension : 20-21 kg, Training: swimming, sauna, and POWER BALL
Golfer Elbow started with Pure Strike (I loved the frame) & Solinco Poly & 50Lbs.... TBH, I think it was more the catalyst than the root cause (bad technique, age, poor warm-up, playing through pain).
I switched to Clash and softer strings but it was still painful. Went to doc and I have a 1cm tear in my flexor tendon so have completely stopped tennis right now. I am doing the "Knee Over Toes Guys" program and they have a protocol for elbow that I am following everyday working step-by-step with NO PAIN. Will see how it goes. At the moment, I have no pain most of the day but left elbow is definitively stiffer.
I will go again to the doc in one month and consider PRP. I keep on reinforcing my forearm muscles. FlexBar never worked for me. I also "Voodoo Floss" everyday but no real improvement.
Will keep you posted! Thx for the video!
I switched to Clash racket with natural gut 48 lbs, stopped backhand slice until I recovered, wearing a elbow sleeve at light seemed to help as well. I now wear the bandit brace when I play
Solid points. The flexbar is what helped me get over tennis elbow.
I bought 1 reel of RPM and Aero 300 because of Nadal. Caused me so much pain and sore. I ended up sold the aero and bought speed pro strung up with RPM, problem still persisted. I finally bought Ezone 98 strung with Solinco Hyper-G, problem fixed! Despite Hyper-G has a lot of vibration, it is surprisingly arm comfy! The rest of RPM reel… I gave it away to someone and he later told me that string gave him pain!
and nadal use a aero special at 350 gr :o
Tumbling upon this video while I’m out due to a golfer’s elbow! And I have experienced exactly all that stuff.
My advice to everyone is as soon as you have a pain then stop playing, rest, rest and rest until it is back to normal. Or you are gonna suffer it for a long time.
I had TE in 2010, bought a Pro Kennex Ki5 PSE (super arm-friendly). Went out to hit. I hit three balls, stopped, and didn't pick up a tennis racquet for six months. I came back on the courts with the Head IG Prestige MP with ALU Power at 51 and have been using it since then. No more stiff racquets for me. I do the Flexbar daily and I'm in the gym or my home gym five days a week. One other really important thing: if you play with poly, don't play with dead poly. I cut it out the strings after eight hours of play time which means that I have to record the amount of time I play with each racquet. I have heard this from many other players too. I could go to softer strings but it would likely mean changing racquets and I have a setup which works (in that it plays crisp enough without arm problems). If I changed, it would change the feel and I'd have to make the long-term adjustments that everyone goes through with different equipment.
This is golden and great recommendations. I’m really into calisthenics and it is possible to get tennis elbow from there as well. Your advice is spot on especially with regards to the interplay between racquet stiffness, string stiffness and string tension. I usually either do a soft racquet with stiff strings or a stiffer racquet with a softer copoly- that optimizes my performance and comfort. But I was choose arm health over performance if push comes to shove.
I hit babolat with stiff 15L with lead ....killed my elbow, took 3 months off. Started using "BAND-IT" wrap.....no pain. Even with the "kneed it" wrap.....knees never hurt now. And before the 3 month break it hurt to step up a sidewalk. Might just be my experience, but those eradicated all the pain I experienced before. My knee and elbow never hurt now.
Thanks partly to this channel, I bought a handful of 2019 Prestige MPs and gradually went all the way down to 30lb tension with thin polyester strings. Shoulder and elbow are happier than ever
13 kg ???!!! 30 lb?
I use prestige MP 2019 and its the one that gave me tennis elbow. I dont play with a dampener. I noticed there was a lot of vibrations from the frame.
I have played tennis for very long time. Last 2 years I had tennis elbow . I came to conclusion that my problem is my service technique. I serviced with stiffened arm and I often hit top of the frame. I took care to hit properly and pain disappeared in 4-5 weeks. Similar story with a wrist long time ago - nothing to do with material but always with bad striking style and frame hitting. Not in line with expert´s opinions.......
Thanks for the advice. The flex bar worked 😀.
Glad it helped!
I didn't think this could happen to me but it did. Last night I had severe pain in my shoulder and elbow, really in all the higher part of the arm. I had to take painkillers because I couldn't sleep with the pain. It's the first time this happens to me and I'm quite concerned.
I've been playing with the Pure Strike 98 16x19 2nd generation (the ProjectOne7) for a couple of years now. With this racket I have been playing the best tennis of my life, I play in a couple of rankings and went really high in the ranking, and won some matches that I couldn't think of winning before. But it seems this comes at a cost.
The thing is, as I go higher the opponents play harder, also I'm playing with more frecuency than before (2 or 3 times a week instead of 1). The other day during a practice I started hitting some strong forehands without the proper warmup (big mistake) and felt some discomfort in my shoulder. Didn't think it was severe, the next day I played a match against a player with a very big serve, also had some discomfort but wasn't too worried. But that night, some hourse after the game, the pain grew really strong. Now I'm very concerned.
I play with MSV Focus Hex soft at 23-22 kg, and with a leather grip and overgrip (I don't know if the leather grip contributes more to TE). I think I should change the racket, or the strings, or both, and drop tension, and also rest from playing a couple of weeks. I also have to go to a physio and see what he recommends...
For me, adding weight at strategic points of the racquet and stringing low, avoids tennis elbow. In my case, the 2022 EZ98 stock form even strung with full poly at 45 lbs would hurt my arm, but depolarizing it (adding weight at 3 & 9 + top of handle (just below the throat)+ leather grip) fixes that issue and plays a lot more stable while still maintaining good maneuverability!
Why leather grip helps? Thanks
I had The same issues when I was using the RPM Blast - way to stiff. Now I am using a Hybrid Version mit Multifilament Gut in the Crosses and it is getting better.
The email sounds very similar to an ongoing injury I have. I feel pain in the distal third of the humerus which can radiate up towards the shoulder and into the elbow when severe. Primarily it's just a dull boney pain, very similar to boney pain i've felt with stress fracture or shin splints in my legs. I can only play a couple of times a week to manage the pain. The pain is not made worse by bending or straightening the elbow in any way. The pain can be made worse when stressing the humerus bone in isolation, such as putting all my weight on the right arm as if I was going to do a single arm press up. Arm is straight though. This will be stressing the humerus bone. Serving in tennis makes the pain worse. I have not seen a physio but I'm quite sure my symptoms are not TE and are in fact a stress fracture of the distal humerus which is a rarer injury that can found in sports with an overhead movement. This has not been officially diagnosed but the original poster behind the video may want to consider this a possibility and seek professional help.
I worked through your list of ideas to solve my severe golfers elbow pain until it was gone. It’s been gone for a year now. Thanks Jonas!
Awesome to hear
Great and essentiel video for any tennis addict!
Loose grip has many advantages including minimal vibration and smooth strokes. I have only had tennis elbow once and golfers elbow a few times over many decades of play. The racket makes a difference (no problems after switching to ProKennex). I string at 58 lbs which is probably high nowadays but unless I get problems I will probably not change.
I always wondered why Federer doesn't have any arm issues and I think it's because he spins the racquet in his hand between serves... Serving & receiving.
I have been doing the same and I find releasing the muscles in my forearm is really helpful. That and making sure I hit relaxed and have a loose follow through are important. I use an RF97A strung with RPM Blast outdoors in winter and Champs Choice strung at 58lbs for all matches. Also, the point about warm-up and stretching is really important.
"Touch wood" I haven't had any elbow or shoulder issues.
Likewise I switched to Prokennex about 6 months ago and its made a real difference. I string at 51lbs using Wilson NXT Soft strings. Use a Theraband Flexbar daily also. This combination seems to be doing the trick for me!!
@@markhibbitt1269 which prokennex
Went back to Angell rackets with their Halo soft string. Spent time training with weights and elbow healed. Used to love stiff rackets but couldn't justify the enduring pain
Instead of ice I use warm moist heat and find that works well for relieving soreness . I do it before and after I play.
Great vid. Great insights. One thing I’ve purchased in the past year is a hyper ice. Hypervolt. Massage gun. Because I hit a lot of balls per week, I occasionally get a stiff elbow. Since I’ve used the hypervolt after hitting sessions, it’s helped alleviate the stiffness (and works extremely good for sore muscles). I don’t go crazy with the speed. Just semi-light on the inside and outside of the forearm. Ask Santa for one.
Thanks for the insight @Tennisnerd. Just ordered the TheraBand Flexbar using the link you provided!
I’ve used to suffer TE every year! Now it’s gone. How?
Buy yourself the most flexible racquet you can afford, string it with natural gut and use it until the pain goes away. It will go away pretty quickly.Think of it as a temporary therapy racquet.
Once the pain subsides, you can go back to your old racquet, although wiser to find something that fits Jonas advice.
The MAIN cause of TE is when the racquet sends VIBRATIONS at a particular frequency that is unnatural to your particular physiological body up thru your arm, this vibration rubs bone against tendons which causes damage.
Main causes of TE,
racquet too stiff
Vibration doesn’t suit your body
Racquet strings are too tight,
Your playing too much tennis (apparently if you play more than 3 times a week your risk sky rockets).
Don’t play everyday, don’t play everyday, DONT PLAY EVERYDAY!
Peace to you all and good luck in everything you do.
C
Great video. I think my issue is hitting my forehands late and/or too close to my body (with the elbow near my me). I've been using a Yonex Ezone 98 with monofilament but now switching to multifilament (at 47 pounds). I'll try to fix my technique and timing and I'm also going to a physiotherapist to help heal the injury. As you say, its important to warm-up before every session and to do exercises to strength the arm and forearm muscles. All that should help, and the last resource will be change the racket :(
Usually, Tennis elbow pain originates in the neck. You have to do a lot of exercises to make your neck more flexible and to improve your posture, and the elbow pain will gradually pass!
About the racquet, the Clash strung in luxilon element hurt my elbow, and for 6 months I play in Pure Aero with black code and no pain, how to explain that?
Similar experience: played with Head Graphene 360 and Wilson PS97L and Clash with elbow pain. Switched to Babolat Pure Aero and quite soon elbow pain was gone.
Guys, dont be scared to switching to soft frames, they are even better as stiffer powerfull frames. I played lot of years with stiff rackets as aeropro drive gt,pure aero, pure strike 98 v2, v3 and my shoulder was dead. I told myself its enought. I bought vcore95 2018 version, awesome no pain after vcore i played gravity pro top racket and now i bought prestige mp 2020 version. All 3 rackets super plush, no pain,controlled, no lack of power or spin cause im heavy baseliner player with lot of topspin on forehand and flat backhand. But you have to buy softer strings, never used multi or natural gut, poly tour pro is the way, i played with it 4 years, no problem. Now i want to switch to big hitter silver will see its better or worse as ptp. And of dont string too high, 21-22kg to this type of rackets is sweetspot, Idk its 46-48lbs.
I use pure aero with rpm blast, 52lbs. Really love playing with it. But after a year, my elbow is hurting. Now am using multifilament and dropped to 50lbs. Will have to drop further if the pain continues.
There are several possible sources for tennis elbow. For me it was computer use. I use a computer for work and I'm also on a computer quite a bit at home. It is important when using a computer not to keep your hand resting on your mouse for long periods of time. You may not notice it, but keeping your hand on your mouse for long periods of time can constrict blood circulation in your hand/arm. This caused me tennis elbow in the past. Once I made a concerted effort to limit this, my tennis elbow went away.
Love these kind of content !
Would be appreciate if you would cover about Hand Blister as well. I play a lot but still cannot get used to it
You may have mentioned these and I missed it. Using a powerball to strengthen your wirst and not holding the racquet with a death grip will help also.
Thanks for this video. I am currently using the Head Radical MP 2021 and I have a tennis elbow... I have not played for last 2 months and rested it out but it has not yet healed. I am 40 and I wanted your recommendation on which racket I should move to.. Thank you...
Just on the money topic; I would think of it this way. How much money would you spend on a physio? A few sessions, and you're already talking big money. Compare that with selling your current stick/s, and replacing them with something easier. You can demo sticks for not much money, and often what you pay for the demo is discounted when you buy a new stick from the store. If you find a stick and string combination you're happy with, great. You can then get go home with that from the store, and Ebay your old sticks, and buy some new ones from Ebay. All up, you'll probably be able to make the swap without breaking the bank.
And I agree with the central point here; health comes first. Maybe get an MRI to see exactly what's causing the issue as well. You may need to take a few weeks / months off to get healthy, do the right physiotherapy to build the area back up again, and then GRADUALLY get back into it.
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String pattern is part of the picture too, I think. Best to go with a more open set up. Definitely not 18 X 20.
can you review polyfibre strings
I think u missed talking about vitamin d and e supplements , tendocare tablets and stuff like that. I personally havent taken them but heard they might help
I’ve got the same problem. Don’t think it’s tennis elbow. Checkout “Radial Tunnel Syndrome” it’s the nerve.
Thought it was TE. switched to Natural Gut iced, TENS machine, no help whatsoever. Think rest and Nerve Glide exercises. Should help.
for awhile i thought it was radial tunnel syndrome as well since the pain is 95% gone but a little bit pain 4 cm from the pointy bone. I kept working on the flexbar and now it's 99% healed.
Thank you for your informative sharing as always. I have been playing recreational level for 20 + years and never had any lasting or serious elbow issues. A couple months ago, I added 3g of lead at 3 and 9 o'clock and 8g at the handle of my Dunlop CX200 OS (295 unstrung factory spec). The set up came to as fit as I could find as it clearly improved my serves, volleys and even ground strokes. But, after a few weeks of my best tennis plus added one extra session per week, my elbow gave in. I am curious to know was it mainly due to the added weight, or overplayed?
"does it hurt when you do that, well then don't do that"
So, my issues is that racquets like the Clash 98 (v1 or v2) or the new ProKennex sticks have some pretty hefty swing weights that stress my wrists. What do you think about the Prince Phantom 97P?
Reading the comments below and quickly one common theme emerges: polyester strings. I don’t understand why people who have already suffered TE still using poly? If you need to use poly to get the ball in court or to hit spins, you really need to work on your basics. Pros use poly to get extra edge but at the same time, their chance of hitting off-center is a lot lower than rec players. Also don’t put polyester strings on a pedestal just because strings companies says “spin potential “. It’s their marketing. Use multi or gut and your elbow will speak and says thank you 😊
yeah its about the prize :o poly is less expensive. The best is to warm up with elastic, and to change poly each month maximum, after a long period of tennis elbow, ( 2 year to fix) now i play with yonex 330gr and poly .
i had get golf elbow in less of 5 min in volley tennis, because used a old string from 10 years without change and old racket
@@kaafaa8036 the tension maintenance in gut and multi is better than poly. And if you change poly often, which one should do, the price difference isn’t that big. If you consider the doctor appointments and discomfort one suffers, multi and gut is a distant win IMHO.
What do you consider a stiff racquet RA? I had a Yonex Vcore 100, RA was 65. I just switched to the Solinco Whiteout 18x20, and while it is a 66, it's foam fill makes it feel comfy but perhaps I am just thinking that and my arm feels differently. I do have Tennis Elbow from even before the Vcore and so I have swtiched to Wasabi Main and Velocity MLT cross to help at 48/50. Seem ok or would a Blade with an RA of 62 make a big difference or a Tf40?
Hi Jonas, thank you for the content! Why didn't you recommend the new Yonex VCore Pros?
They' re very smooth and comfortable, more than most rackets. I know that Yonex rackets have a unique feel, and they' re not for everyone (they cannot "replace" a Babolat racket for sure), but many people should know that option as well.
Thank you again!!
Yonex VCore Pro 97 310g has a low RA. Good for the arms.
i play with yonex 98 ezone tour 330 gr, without anti-vibrator, its good racket. they put system inside for the vibration
@tennisnerd: what about the new Speed MP with the Auxetic Technology?
Good advice in general, but not a single mention of the first port of call when you feel the slightest pain: rest! As tennis obsessives, taking weeks or even a couple of months off can sound and feel like a disaster, but tendon injuries only get worse if not allowed to fully heal, and only rest can allow that.
True if there’s significant pain and be aware that rest alone won’t help much, you need to break up the scar tissue with massage and strengthen the relevant muscles. You can play and get better if pain is not making you wince if you wear brace to offload pressure and follow advice on this video. Mine cleared up and I only stopped playing a short time.
I had tennis elbow a few months ago and it went away. I got it the second day I used my new Yonex Vcore 100 pro that my daughter bought me. Prior to the Vcore, I used a Wilson clash 100. I worked out and waited and my tennis elbow went away until today when it came back. I think I'm going to have to go back to the clash. When I train, I hit lots of balls from my machine (sometimes a thousand a day).
I think I get it when I play and push my balls instead of stroking. I noticed I really push my balls on the server and don't serve like I practice,i serve like I'm aiming the ball. Who knows, but I'm bummed out because it hurts to pick stuff up.
Hi, do you mean the new Yonex Vcore Pro 100 2021?
@@darioschmidt5031 yeah!
Hi, okay. That surprised me. This racket has a low ra. How was the impact for you?
I played for several months trying different racquets. Started to develop tennis elbow after a couple of nights in a row where I mis-hit far too many serves. Mis-hits were sending too much shock to my arm. I switched to a heavier racquet and noticed immediately that I wasn't getting shock to the arm on mis-hits. I've been working on a 2 handed backhand to take some pressure off the arm and I am looking into other options for the future. One thing I haven't been able to find out is if adding lead tape will reduce shock vibration? I've also been looking at Bolt racquets, but there are not too many play reviews of this racquet.
Lead tape, depending on where you place it, can help. Putting some at 3 and 9 can help stabilize the racquet. If you add too much at the tip, you might find it difficult to swing as the swingweight will be too high. Adding weight to the handle is a great way of increasing the static weight without affecting the maneuverability too much. This is my preferred option these days as most modern racquets are not head light enough for me. You can use silicone in the handle instead of lead or switch to a leather grip.
There's a tennis racquet metric called twistweight and TW has a chart of racquets and their twistweights. A higher twistweight means more comfort as the racquet is less likely to twist in your hand on mishits. Lead tape can provide better protection against shock at a loss of maneuverability. My racquets have 15 grams of lead tape on them. You can hit the ball anywhere on the strings or the frame and you won't feel any shock.
Thanks for info. I've got lead tape arriving today. Going to start with 8 grams in the hoop and 8 grams on the handle to maintain balance then go from there
@@returntotennis706 That's a lot to add all at once. The recommendation is to usually add two grams at a time, adjust and then add more.
@@movdqa got it. Thanks
Specialist I saw has had many referrals from elite players so as you say it’s not necessarily poor technique but often overuse.
I've been experiencing the exact same problem in the last couple weeks. I play with the Extreme Tour, strung with lynx tour 17 at 22kg/48.5lbs. I'm about to try some multis, if it doesn't get better do you think switching to a Blade would be a good option? I've tried the Gravity line but it's way to soft for me
Hi, I used an ezone and moved to blade recently. I string mine mad soft (35lb) just for my arm and funny enough I maintain control with the 18*20 and it's super comfy. Recommend it!
You have plenty of room to try dropping the tension...about 5 lbs at a time is good to try, you could also try a hybrid with a multifilament in the crosses as an in between if you still like the poly performance....recommend velocity mlt...
@@zZmoctezumaZz good to hear that! Do you string with polys or multi? I’m going to demo the Blade soon
@@andyyzf450 I was playing with 53lbs, dropped to about 48. The issue is that I’m afraid that it might affect the control of my shots… A guy at my club recommended a hybrid with the same string, definitely going to try it out
@@JT-zv1rx I was really surprised how much control I have with the lower tensions for polys, used to have 56 lbs, worked my way down to 40 lbs for poly and 42 lbs multi.
Hope the multi hybrid helps!
I still have degree of tennis elbow, but around 8 months ago it was that bad, I couldn't work or play tennis. I'm surprised that using elbow support wasn't on your list of prevention or management of tennis elbow?
As a sufferer, I have spent hours of reading, plus hundreds of pounds on treatments, creams, massage guns, flex bars, and drugs. Other things which have helped me return to playing have been vitamins, minerals and really good elbow supports. MSM is a good supplement, it's a natural anti-inflammatory. I also eat a whole plant-based diet, there are little to no inflammation markers eating whole plants. I have used all sorts of elbow supports and only two brands work. If you are interested or I can help you, please message me. I know tennis elbow is awful.
and a heavier racquet right
I play tennis to avoid going to the gym...lol
Buy a Powerball and use it...and buy a classic old racquet, no one gave me pain on my elbow...new racquets with low weight, high string tensions and new balls are elbow killers
Go to the gym and work on your arm strength = get stronger so the arm cab take the load. Not enough people talk about getting stronger
Nailed it.
Use Theraband to develop strength.
The balls you use are important too. Heavy balls are not good for your arm.
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Play with the Clash and the problem will disappear
Hi, I have a clash.
What string you reckon and what tension to have the best of Clash.
he should use the ripstick
How to avoid tennis elbow....
Dont play tennis
To solve my elbow probrem, I just put a dampener on my racket🤷♂️
This comment isn't going to be popular ^^
Nevertheless: you want to get rid of tennis elbow and almost all other inflammations once and for all? Go plant-based.
Reason is simple: when you eat animal products, you are eating a lot of biologically active substances such as hormones, bacteria, immunoglobulines, all from a different species, which makes your immune system react and stay at a higher basal level than when you eat only plants. So when you are fully plant-based, you don't inflame easily and you just recover faster from any damage.
Just ask Hurcacz and Djokovic about their speed of recovery and how much of that they attribute to their plant diet.
I used to have a lot of tennis elbows, knees issues, shoulder inflammations.
Well ever since I've turned vegan 5 years ago, they are all but gone.
I'm 49 and play at least 7 hours a week.
Cheers.
Interesting idea.
I don't doubt what a vegan diet can do for someone, but if you're playing with a stiff racquet and poly strings, you could be in for trouble. This depends upon your age, flexibility, and fitness level.
True, very true.
I totally agree.
I eat meat, not vegan or vegetarian but I almost don't eat carbs. I eat beans and lentils, quinos with veggies as a base and then meat and cheese/fat for satiety. Almost no carbs. I have really low inflamation overall. Could get better without the meat but I'll get less satiety.
Even if you're not vegan, being plant-based is fantastic for your health.
I also play a lot 4-10h/week all the time.
-Head Speed mp 2022/ poly / 44-48 lbs (20-22kg) changed under 20h.