What does the dampener do? And do you need one?
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I had severe tennis elbow caused by 24 years of military service and when I started playing tennis again 🎾 it was quite painful. After several months of testing tennis equipment and making changes to the exercises I do in the gym my tennis elbow is basically gone. The most comfortable racquet for me is the the Pro Kennex Ki Q+Tour Pro (315). I put Alpha Gut 2000 16g (1.33mm) in the mains at 52 pounds and Volkl Cyclone Tour Red 18g (1.20mm) at 50 pounds in the crosses. I spent an hour practicing on the tennis wall at the local park and no pain at all. The total weight of the racquet with the overwrap, vibration dampener, and strings is 339g.
I use a dampener (sampras O ring best I've tried). It's more about the feel than the noise, Night and day for me. String bed feels much better more solid with a dampener. I feel more connected to the ball with a dampener. when my dampener falls off it feels just as bad as breaking a string to me feels terrible. I hate the feel of the string vibration traveling through the racket racket just does not feel solid with out it. As far as tennis elbow stiff light racket with lots of vibration not going to help, but most people most likely gripping the racket too tightly. loosen your grip and arm develop a loose live arm and you probably won't have tennis elbow anymore plus you will hit with more power, control & spin. stay loose & whip it whip it good
I made a blindtest taking my racket in right hand and taping on my left hand with the string bed. I used earplugs to don’t ear any different of noise. I swear on 10 times i recognize the 5 times my friend put the dampener on and 5 times it was off. The difference on my right hand was huge because of vibrations. So ok maybe this science article say there is no difference but it probably depends of the racket, tension, dampener etc… because for me it works very well
It is a relative topic. From my view, vibration has nothing to do with the tennis elbow, it is only the shock moment of the contact point. Tennis elbow is an issue of not having a decent technique and right tennis racquet or right string set-up that fits players playing style. Mostly it occurs if you often miss sweet spots and at the same time your food work is not aligned with your contact point of the ball correctly. I only use a dampener when I don’t have enough time to re-string my racquet. If I feel a lack of control because the string set-up needs to change, then I take in a dampener to provide a bit of tension to the strings to gain a bit more control and lose a bit of power (this idea may not work for every string type of set-up!). Dampeners mute the racquet completely off. It affects the feel and comfort that those elements are very much coordinated with the ears and the haptic. Audio dimension can be an important element to a tennis player for receiving correct feedbacks right after each stroke, especially to gain the right rhythm.
I have to agree 100% with you. I do start paying 8 months ago I'm 33 years old. I first played with $20 raquet and I start getting better and bought Blade 98 V8 16x19 with Poly Wilson Spin Revolve at 55lbs and start working on single backh. I didn't know nothing about it but now I do.... I love the raquet but I change the strings it help big time. I also try with the Clash and it solve the problem but I hate the Clash. I started doing a love of relaxed moves on the wall and when I started getting techinc right and my hand start getting very lose at the contact follow tru ect. my elbo start going away. The biggest pain was single backhand with Revolve spin strings. Again all those things can make it worse or better but the main thing is my technic is terrible an no dampner or dampener when you contact wrongly the ball at single backhand nothing can save your arm but I think now managable pain is helping me to fix my game.
A lot of people here prefer playing with dampeners, but I honestly play better without them. Used to play with a dampener, but it flew off when I played and I've never used it since...
I like the sound of my racket without a dampener more. I have not been using one sinced 14 years. That is the only thing a dampener does. It takes vibrations of of the string bed. The frame will still vibrate the same.
Nice one! Ideas for the next ones: leather grips; string savers; tenex bracelet; tennis balls durability; adding weight at home for beginners; tack v dry overgrips.
Thanks for the ideas!
I play with the Wilson BLX six one tour 90 racket. It has 17L TIMO luxilon strings in it and lead tape on the top of the racket from 10 to 2 o’clock and on the handle. It goes through the contact zone like a knife through butter. It doesn’t need a dampener but I use one anyway. Feels great.
I have an old banged up racket that I play with. It was a hand-me-down from my dad and it was the first rocket I had any personal attachment to so I'm never going to get rid of it. Nowadays I mostly just use it as a backup racket for when my main racket strings break. My point is that I feel a difference in my hand with him without a dampener for this racket. When it comes to this racket I can feel a shock going through my hand whenever I hit anything but the sweet spot without a dampener, but when I have a damp in there on it it feels much more comfortable. I don't think that it's just the sound playing tricks on my mind because in some cases my hand can actually hurt. However with my newer racket which I purchased just this year, I play without a dampener because I don't have that same sensation from it. The sound difference is still there but the feel difference is not there. Whether it is because my old racket is old, like from 2008 old, or if it is because my old racket is beat up and maybe damaged in the frame somewhere, it's unclear to me. But there's definitely a difference in physical sensation with and without the dampener for this older racket.
I love my tried and true Sampras donut.
It depends on the racquet. I use a Head Speed MP without a dampener since it already feels good. I use a Sampras donut on my Prince Classic Graphite though.
I own a RTP dampener too. It does feel different compare to other dampeners out there and that's exactly the point... A little bit of control you have with changing dampeners might be the switch in your head to perform better. I've used just about every dampener out there but I always go back to Tourna Sampras O dampener; in my head, I play my best tennis with the O and that's enough for me.
So you rate the Pete Sampras 0 dampener above the RTP dampener. Interesting indeed, what kind of pain induced you to buy the expensive RTP dampener or was it just curiosity? There's for certain a special benefit in that Pete Sampras O. I agree with Jonas a good vibration reducing racket is a better start, but I've already been that route. I'd rather get more mileage out of my recently purchased Head Gravity Pro Auxetic, such a rewarding stick and exceptionally well designed for my style of play🤔
Always bringing nice content Jonas, thanks! Yeah they change the sound the most. Also sensitivity may be different from person to person. So one one may feel more difference from the dampener
I notice a minor difference in shock between a worm dampener and no dampener in wrist discomfort (but I have minor ulnar abutment so I'm a little different). But this difference is dwarfed by the benefits of sticking some extra weight in the racquet handle.
Good info.
But one point of contention: tennis elbow is primarily caused by bad strokes. Otherwise all pros and amateurs who play a lot would get it. The racquet and strings can lessen it but improving form is the key.
I moved from a 5gram dampener to a 1gram rubber band and IMO the improved sound is enough to understand if I'm hitting the sweetspot or the level of spin. That's all I want from a dampener
I just realised how heavy my dampener was, 5gs is what mine is, I too will move to a rubber band!
Damper serves to reduce the peak amplitude of any vibration while shifting the natural frequency of the system down.
So, if the sound is disappeared, it means it is working. Reduced the frequency. It might not be enough to reduce the peak amplitude for you to protect your arm though.
Sometimes the muted feel gives me more confidence to swing thru with strength. Ball appears to respond as expected, versus without dampener, ball sometimes flies in unplanned directions..
I would like to know your opinion on string gauges: 1.20 vs 1.25 vs 1.30. Who should use each one and why? (More spin, durability, etc)
the thinner the better because it grips the ball more, but it breaks faster.
Great stuff - personally like dampeners because they stop the main strings from moving as much
Some racquets sound and feel great without a dampener and some don’t. For me needing a dampener depends totally on the racquet and string being used.
Yes, I feel I get a softer feel with a vibration dampner and I don't like the sound without a dampner when the ball hits the strings. But I can play with or without
I used to play with a dampener when I first started playing tennis a few years ago, but I kept making bad contact and knocking it off. I got sick of that, so decided to go without. Pretty quickly I got used to it. Still, I notice some strings make "uglier" sounds than others.
Dampeners don't do much to reduce harmful frequencies that come from the frame. They shorten the vibrations of the strings, which are around 500-600 hz. The frame vibrations however are around 100-150 Hz if I remember correctly. Those are completely different beasts and go through without any dampening effect from the dampener.
Tie a knot using a (thicker) rubber band provides the same benefits at a fraction of the cost. And it doesn’t fly off!
That's what I do too
Its a lot lighter too!
I always play with a dampener. Without one, the feeling when the ball hits the racquet is uncomfortable to me and just doesn't sound as good. Tennis elbow is unrelated to the dampener in my experience, that has to do with the racquet or the strings themselves and too-tight tension. I like dampeners also as an accessory to the racquet for aesthetic purposes!
I generally find dampeners make racquets feel too "muted", but recently I started noticing a lot of my racquets swing nicer with a dampener on, so I've been adding lead tape at the equivalent location of a dampener. I think this might have something to do with mgri, as it adds quite some weight without changing the balance and swingweight by much.
Yonex vcore 95 strung with poly tour pro with NO dampener plays superb. People say the racquet is more muted than the past versions so playing without dampener works well as I like an amplified sound from my shots. Also, ptp has more feel and feedback than polytour fire which was way too muted. I use to play with dampener and I’m so glad I’ve put it back in the bag.
Will give this a go, otherwise will try a thick a rubber band as its about 4gs lighter than my 5g dampener
Maybe we should do a live call on instagram or UA-cam and do a full explanation of our dampener :)
Please do a PODCAST!
Oh wow it would be awesome to see my two favorite tennis UA-cam channels do a collab video.
@@jlparcerisa hahahaha
Can you please make video on pre-match & post-match for Local match, Club level, National Level, ITF.
eg If you have match at 7:00 AM, 8:00 AM , 9:00 AM so on. How early should we practice/what & should we go cooldown or not after practice or before match?
Yes I agree dapeners reduce feel. TBH I'm just as happy with a tied elastic band. I have to say if vibration dampeners reduce vibration it stands to reason it would be less irritation. I find this is the case but you are sensory deprived. You definitely feel more feedback without vibration dapeners. The elastic band speaks to me however. It silently reminds me to stay relaxed and that tennis is only a game. Invaluable when you forget you're tensing up which is an automatic impediment though fixable!
Regarding the vibration dampening ability of these devices, remember that, for example, in a 16x19 pattern racket there are 16x19x2=608 connections of the strings to the racket's frame. Most dampeners only cover a couple of main strings and one cross string so it isn't hard to see that they won't reduce the total amount of frame vibrations very much. Even the "worm" style dampeners only cover a small fraction of those 608 connections. Another complicating factor is that we humans evaluate the "feel" of some object in our hand partly by the sound made when an object strikes it. So an object which emits a high pitched "ping" will feel more annoying than an object which emits a muffled "thud"--regardless of the actual amount of vibration present.
subscribed after viewing the very fist video of yours 😀👍 great approach/attitude: openness married with scientific, critical view gives best results!
would be perfect if u could make it fun too, but still great! keep it up!
Thanks!
@@Tennisnerd ❤️ur welcome and good luck!
@@Tennisnerd i guess this is not an adequate place, so sorry for that, but I have one idea of a video.
I think, it would be great if u could talk about a good balance of various criteria of a serve (or any other shot); namely, when someone is trying to improve a serve (or other shots) should (s)he focus more on speed, precision, consistency or variety? [these are criteria that I can name now, but there may be more]. Of course it's individual (some are better at speed and some at accuracy etc.), but there should be some range of a reasonable, efficient ratio, because e.g. it would be useless if one had 300kmph serve which goes in 10% of the time, always with same spin and god knows in which direction.
I'd say the offcenter misshits hurts a little more...but maybe could be subjetive opinion...I'd must try to play without it and maybe I'd know if I'm hitting the spot well
It is not just you. The new ezone 98 has the Wrong material and it hurts my arm no matter what. Dampener , string I tried it all. Coming from AI and Dr I had zero issues.
Interesting comment. I own 2 DR’s. One a 100 and the other a 100 plus. I also have a 2020 Ezone. By a slight edge and think I prefer playing with my old DR’s.
I stopped using a dampener when I played with the Wilson Blade Countervail (overly dampened to begin with). Moved on from that stick but never went back to the dampener. I guess now I just think about a dampener as adding weight (and SW) where I would never add it otherwise and reducing feedback (string noise) which I have learned to like.
I've been saying much the same for years, like yourself, based on research etc. Dampeners only reduce the sonic vibrations and hence the sound, although one may think there's more going on, especially in relation to actual dampening.
If we look on the tour there's plenty that use dampeners and plenty that don't.
I'd suggest the trend has kind of settled now as for a period of time just about all would use them. Going back to the times when rubber bands were the thing, until they came into mass production and acceptability.
I haven't used a dampener in roughly 6 years, beforehand I'd always use one and couldn't stand the 'ping' sound. I felt that the racquet seemed way more solid on impact with more of a thud & they were a must.
Now, I think I get greater 'feedback' without and the sound I don't even think about.
So, it's likely more about what you get used to. However, thinking it's helping your body (arm/shoulder), it certainly does not.
Cheers 🎾🎾🎾
From my experience, I used a dampener for many years wanting to have a muted feeling and silence the sound of the strings, which helped me gain confidence. However, a couple of years ago I stopped using it during a match, because I noticed that it didn't let me know what condition the strings were in or how well the tension was being held. In conclusion, I have even more confidence when hitting the ball and I know with greater certainty how the shot will come out.
Very timely. I just "demo'd" my friend's Wilson clash . She has a dampener on, but I wasn't enjoying the dampner. Perhaps just me but I wanted more feel from the racquet. I usually do not play with a dampner.
The clash is much better without a dampener
@@sylvanmw
Thank you. I'll probably demo the clash pro with the proper grip size and of course without the dampener.
@@michaelmonsoon3919 hope you enjoy it
@@sylvanmw
Thank you!
I personally feel lots more high-frequency vibrations without dampeners. They can make my hand tired more quickly. And by the way, if the sound changes, it definitely means the vibration changes too, since sound is purely just string's vibration. I definitely agree that we have to define some terms more precisely and scientifically. All these power, spin, maneuverability, feel are just physics. It's very interesting to see that many people will just have totally opposite conclusions on some topics
Dampeners only effect string vibration aka pitch
I feel a huge difference in comfort with and without a dampener
It’s in your head. Any mental advantage is a benefit I guess, but vibration dampeners don’t reduce the amount of vibration reaching your arm by any appreciable amount.
@@ViaticalTree Really? Wow! I actually play much better without dampeners. I guess for me, I just get more feel without them.
@@ViaticalTree I know the data, but I still don't think it's completly unrelated. I have a very sensitive arm, i've struggle with golf elbow for a couple of years now. When I play with Hyper G 1,20, for example, I don't feel a thing, but if I play with a cheaper poly, after 2 hours of play it increases the vibration and I can't play 20 minutes without a dampener, but with a dampener I can go for 2 sets before having issues. I know the data says one thing, but in therms of feeling, I think it alters a lot, specially for offcenter hits
@@g2tennis i feel ya bro. Sensitivity is different from person to person. I may be affected to vibrations than another is not bothered
@@g2tennis Yeah physics doesn’t support that but I think mind over matter is a real thing and maybe that’s what’s going on with you. Anyway, we gotta do whatever works for us, right?
My dampener is 5g's I replaced it with a 1g rubber band and omg my racket feel is so much better!
Dampeners also add weight
i use the wilson six one and have a similar setup to dan evan and kyle edmund with a dampner and it feels very nice the dampned feel on it maybe its different on all setups but for me i love it
I have personally been using dampeners for over 30 years and personally I think there is less vibration.
I am currently using RTP's dampener (ultrasoft). It definitely changes the feeling (much more muted).
I want to mention that any change in sound, in terms of loudness and/or tone, suggests that the vibration amplitude and/or frequency changed. It would be hard to imagine that any type of dampener would actually increase vibration frequency or amplitude, so it must be reducing them. The question should be that whether the amount of reduction is practically meaningful to help with tennis elbow or any sort of discomfort/pain. Personally, it was the case for me (with my wrist), especially with the Ultrasoft one by RTP, but not so much with the Magic one.
FYI, I use gravity mp with a full bed of poly (e.g., lynx tour, rpm power, 4g soft, etc.) at 52-54 lbs.
It would only effect the string, not the frame
@@bengray5013 The source of vibration is the contact between the ball and the string bed. If a dampener reduces the vibration of the string bed, the level of transmitted vibration to a frame would be also lower. Again, the question still should be whether the level of reduction is practically meaningful or not.
@@junha_kim nope, it's been scientifically tested and proven to have no effect on the frame as it dissipates through the strings before getting to the frame
@@bengray5013 I’d love to read the source of the information, if it is published online. I hope it is published in some respected academic journals
@@junha_kim as far as I'm aware it's written in the books that Jonas mentioned in this vid... It's been well known and acknowledged for many years, whether you believe it or not...
It is true that there is less vibration, but I reaaly like the feel of without dampeners
i have plenty of dampeners and use none of them. I feel the dampener does more harm than good because if you hit in the center you'll have a good sound without any ping
I prefer to use a rubber band Agassi style. It's lighter and doesn't pop off like most dampeners do.
I don’t play with dampeners. First of all I like the sound of the tennis ball coming off the racket without a dampener. Also my Yonex racket has a built-in dampener in the handle so what’s the point.
I say the only reason that there’s any tennis elbow and shoulder problems and a wrist problems because the technique I say this on experience.
Hi, could you please do a video comparing a store bought racket with the same racket with silicone in the handle? I know they would be different weights, so maybe weight one with lead and use silicone and lead in the other to make sure they are matched.
I definitely must disagree with you Jonas. I have an ultra sensitive shoulder I guess. I went to great length (3 months of demos) to locate a shoulder friendly racquet. For a couple of months now I have enjoyed a dampener free player's racquet. There's no question tennis is more & more heavily addicted to power.
Quite by accident between points I happened to glance down at garbage on the court. I'm often looking for ankle breaking tendon tearing tripping hazards. A little hobby of mine. Oh how incorrect that assumption turned out to be! What I found was a slightly TORN* Pete Sampras O shaped Dampener with his name on it. I reasoned the previous player discarded it for that reason. (there $3 each) Frankly like you Jonas, I wasn't expecting anything but forced myself into a more collaborative attitude. Well total disclosure here, I didn't have any choice pain effected my quality of play significantly.
I stuck it on my strings (still inwardly skeptical) and instantly to my amazement the comfort level on my Gravity Pro Auxetic soared! All this on a WORN-OUT DAMPENER 😲
Yes I am indeed looking for that Road to Pro dampener as I have heard good feedback on them. Sadly they're sold out on Amazon.ca, no word when they can replenish shelves. 😣 An ominous sign they're selling well
Stateside where there's more profit for the owner-developer (a former ATP Pro) The big takeaway here is an ORDINARY* indeed compromised dampener permitted my game to endure far LESS pain! Allowing me to hit a harder shot much more often was a great relief.
The destiny of today's game, more rocket like than finesse like. So what can clinically tested Sorbothane do??? Hmmm well first, try that Pete Sampras dampener if you haven't for yourself. I know I'm a cheap date but seriously this dampener makes a huge difference in my arm endurance, no matter how clean my ball striking. You will find Tournagrip has bought the rights for Pete Sampras line I think. At least it sure looks that way 🤔
As for the pricier RTP dampener yes sir most definitely I'm buying and will be very keen to let you know my opinion on this wonder material called Sorbothane. Not for bragging rights, I'm genuinely interested in your personal enjoyment of the game.
www.sorbothane.com/sorbothane-products/standard-industrial-products/sorbothane-sheet-stock/
Thank you very much for this video Jonas. I trust your word far more than the majority of any of the many Snake Oil salesmen tennis attracts. I freely admit I myself was attracted to the temptation of just looks in a dampener. Until I happenstanced on a very shabby Pete Sampras dampener I would never have believed it. Here's to more pain free tennis everywhere! I'll be baaaack 🤫 👋 🍻 🎾🇨🇦
I never tell ppl that dampeners don't do jack for Tennis elbow. I figure if they get some sort of placebo benefit, why not let them keep believing it. I encourage ppl to use theraband (it does seem to work though I don't know if there are actual studies) and to make sure they have forward contact.
theraband exercises you mean?
Question for you. I'm a beginner and wondering what's the ideal string set up for a beginner feel, control or power?
2021 PROKENNEX Q+5 PRO, is litterally an industry changer, ive never found such comfort, power and precision in such a package.
try a rubber band.. it works just as well...
Cannot play without one to save my life. My go to is the Yonex vibration dampener 5 😎
Hi Jonas, always enjoy your vlogs, thank you. Qw regarding tennis elbow: Can the grip size also contribute to tennis elbow or shoulder issue?
I head it also affects the swingweight of your racquet slightly.
It does!
@@Tennisnerd 4 grams in that place = SW + 2
Yep I use dampeners to get that nice POCK!! sound
im a little annoyed, i was having issues with my elbow with my ezone 100+ with lead tape setup. and i figured it was the racquet. I previously used the older generation of this setup and didnt get the same vibration sound and didnt have arm issues. So i play tested the ezone tour and really liked it, so many great players were promoting it and i didnt get the same vibration sounds. When i finally got it, i started hearing the vibration sounds on mine. I figured it might be the string i use (hyper g 16), so now im looking into strings. But now im coming across a ton of videos from the same people that recommended this racquet that it eventually gives u tennis elbow issues even if u dont hear the vibrations. Sucks cuz i really like the ezone line, ive never played so well with any other racquet. Dunno if i should stick with it cuz i dont want to be unable to play tennis in the future.
I use to play with yonex eZone 98 and had tennis elbow issues. I use strictly Prince Phantom 100 Pro and sometimes Wilson Clash 100. I have Solinco Hyoer G soft and lower tension. These racquets saved my arm. I can play for hours without having really bad tennis elbow.
Jonas u should make tennis nerd merch I know a friend that would buy it
I have some t-shirts you can buy :) Will try to make more hehe...appreciate it.
Rubber band #64 is my best friend
I'll stick to my rubberband. Never falls off and you get hundreds for a couple bucks!
Same same. Rubber band across the central 4 mains just to take out the annoying ping sounds
Samsies
I hate dampeners because it makes the tension tighter and reduces the trampoline feel of the shots. It was believe for a time that dampeners actually worsens one's tennis elbow because instead of the energy being absorbed by the racquet, it is being repelled by the dampener, and therefore has nowhere to transfer but to your arm. So in essence, it's not a dampener because it doesnt absorb the shock, but repels it.
Hey Jonas, nice video. I'd like to see a video about adding weight to a racquet. I've never actually done it but I have the pro kennex Ki q + tour 300 grams and would like to add about 10 grams to add a bit more stability. No idea if that would have any negative side effects as the racquet was made for the 300g weight....
Most people think it helps with tennis elbow. If thats the case then why would it only be sold 5.00 a pop and why wouldn't the package say it helps with tennis elbow. Its because its doesnt and its all about feel and if they did say that it thats a law suit waiting to happen. Thats a false claim. Tennis elbow comes from poor technique.
absolutely hate dampeners - I love the "zing" sound of the strings and the dampener is like someone put a sock on my racquet
I'm a dampener guy. The more muted the feel, the better. However, the more muted the feel, the worse I play. And I concur that the dampener doesn't affect tennis elbow. I've used the long snaky dampener and the small wilson dampener on my old hyper prostaff 5.0. While the snaky dampener will get me a more muted feel, it doesn't reduce the amount of harsh vibrations sent to my arm, and I still cannot play with that racket for long before my elbow starts to hurt. It is just too stiff for my arm regardless of the dampener used.
Thanks for the upload. Do you have affiliate links to buy these books?
i like dampeners for rackets over 95 square inch. a 90 square inch racket doesn’t need a dampener imo.
How about Babolat RVS Dampener - one that is attached to the frame? Will it reduce shock to arm? Thanks.
Does each dampener has a different result?
Hi Jonas, are you able to compare the Head Gravity Pro to the Pro Kennex Ki Q+ 5 Pro (2021). What is similar? What is different?
Perhaps it's my boyhood Roddick fandom, but I tie a rubber band on the mains
Nice.
Does dampener affect power?
Can you tell me why would anyone want a device to modify sound of a tennis racquet hitting the ball
Because a lot of people cannot stand the pinging noise
Certain you've seen many dampeners Jonas. Curious, which is your favourite and why?
How did you get your Head RDC machine?
Jonas I need your help, I feel pain in my shoulder when serving and afterwards for few days. Are there some usefull shoulder exersizes or maybe I need to change my serving motion?
Search for: Star Tennis Academy: Tips of the serve for not stressing a shoulder - Pro Tennis Lessons. This is the best video on that matter.
@@miguelbarahona6636 Thanks, but it wasnt very helpful cause English subs are quite bad. Thanks anyways
Hej Jonas! David från Ullevi tennis i Göteborg. Använder en Wilson fst burn 95, stängat på ca 22 kg, behöver jag en dämpare? Är en försvaret och counter puncher. Mvh david
Hej David, en dämpare gör ingen större skillnad på komfort. Det är mer en personlig sak. Gillar du den lite mer dämpade känslan och ljudet från en dämpare så är det bara att använda det.
@@Tennisnerd Tack!
What's your opinion of the ADV tennis dampener?
I play with a customized Speed S which needs quite a bit of dampening cuz of vibrations. I've used 2 dampeners or 2 rubber bands to get my desired feel, but decided to try ADV dampener. I purchased the max sorb and it seems to only dampen like a regular single dampener. I will be sending them back. These might work for someone using single dampener and the appear to stay attached well, but did not dampen near the level I expected.
I used the ADV sorb which seemed to work well. I think you need to experiment with their different sizes
Better feel without one , head lynx all the way 53
Dampeners change the trampoline level of your string bed. its pure physics. anything that is positioned on the vibrating string, change its behavior in some way of its vibrating pattern.
Thats why you feel different string bed with and without dampener
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Not exactly, the effect is minimal, you only really notice the change of pitch twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/vibfrequency.cgi
@@bengray5013
no true.
i playing with:
RF97 v11 + Luxilon BB original 28kgs.
There is simple totaly difference and different behaviour in trampoline edfect and the way string responses.
I CAN feel the difference. i am around 4-4.5 player and i am quite sensitive to everything you put on the frame.
Pure physics. Put something on the strings and the strings will behave differently.
so, next time, just learn some basic wave mechanics …. and physics too.
Everything mounted on vibrating string has impact on strings behavior.
one, two, three dampeners.. start counting..
You will learn the difference
Maybe you are not sensitive to small changes, BUT changes are there and the sound changes are last one that get changed…
i hope that helped you now.
@@silviosarunic3234 it's called a placebo effect, any, difference in, feeling is minimal... Dampeners have been scientifically proven to only effect the string vibration to a minimum, it has no effect on the frame... You talk, about physics yet ignore the actual science that proves your claims incorrect
@@silviosarunic3234 I'm sensitive to small changes within racquet, setups, but I'm also aware of the placebo of pitch change on the strings... You on the same ther hand seem to not have an actual clue
@@silviosarunic3234 the only change is sound
Definition of a placebo: dampener.
just use a rubberband
why djokovic uses it?